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C'mon Hollywood #158

04.22.2008

... give us Batman Vs Superman already!
by Sturdy

I continue to be disgusted that the JLA movie is progressing as much as it is. I still see no way itís going to work with the OC cast theyíve assembled. But what makes it more disheartening is that JLA gets the green light and we havenít heard anything about the Batman Vs Superman movie in quite some time. Last I heard, Wolfgang Peterson had one he was working on, but that got shot down a few years ago. Now is the perfect time to get to work on another draft of the script.


I love the Bats vs Supes storyline.

Nolan has obviously done amazing things with the Bats franchise. BATMAN BEGINS was fantastic and DARK KNIGHT looks just as good if not better. But how many more Batman movies does Nolan have in him? Burton only had two Batman films, Donner only had two Superman films, Singer only had two X-Men films and most fans think Raimi only had two good Spider-man films in him. Itís hard to keep churning out good Superhero films, even if you are Christopher Nolan. Iím guessing he might have one more and then thatís it. So what happens to the Bat franchise after that?


How do you follow up DARK KNIGHT?

The revised Superman doesnít even have a sequel yet. RETURNS was a really good film and very worthy of a sequel, but studio politics seem to be holding it up. Letís be overly optimistic and say that Singer returns for the sequel and it gets made in the next couple of years. Then what? You know heís not going to stay for much more than that. Neither he nor Nolan want to be stuck doing Superman or Batman films the rest of their careers. Both directors are going to want a way to spice up their respective franchises.


Why havenít they made a sequel yet?

My answer; Batman versus Superman. Itís the perfect way to keep both franchises fresh. Also, it might just be original enough to convince Christian Bale to play Batman again. Oh, by the way, that reminds me; Bale has to be Batman for this to work. Anyway, you have to figure that Nolan and Singer will be ready to leave their respective franchises, so why not have them team up on a Batman vs Superman movie? Yes, Iím being serious. Have Singer and Nolan write it together and Nolan direct it. Itís more than a fanboyís wet dream, it could actually work. Plus, with Nolan directing, Bale would surely come back.

I donít want the Batman or Superman franchises to get handed off to another director and then get destroyed like they did the first time. Itís still sad to go back and watch the third and fourth installments in each series. We need both directors and both actors to stay with the franchise for many years to come and still keep it fresh. Itís a daunting request, and one that has never happened before, but Batman vs Superman is the answer. It would be a groundbreaking film and it just may be grand enough to convince all the necessary players to get involved.

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2:06PM on 07/01/2008
You need to have them meet. You cant do a JLA movie and just expect the bond between the 2 of them to b made. have them alone. and then do the dumb jla movie. I mean they didnt start off as friends anyway. bat vs. supes isnt thaty bad of an idea
You need to have them meet. You cant do a JLA movie and just expect the bond between the 2 of them to b made. have them alone. and then do the dumb jla movie. I mean they didnt start off as friends anyway. bat vs. supes isnt thaty bad of an idea
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1:19PM on 06/17/2008

READ A COMIC BOOK!

In I AM LEGEND, the superman/batman logo is not for a VS movie. its pretty much an exact replicate of the logo on the superman/batman comic book where they are a TEAM.

it would be dumb to have the two fight because they arnt enemies. first, supes isnt going to pick a fight unless something brainwashes him. batman cant win unless hes got some form of kryptonite. WHAT WOULD BE AWESOME is superman/batman VS a newly arrived Supergirl. Loeb wrote the novel. Check it out.
In I AM LEGEND, the superman/batman logo is not for a VS movie. its pretty much an exact replicate of the logo on the superman/batman comic book where they are a TEAM.

it would be dumb to have the two fight because they arnt enemies. first, supes isnt going to pick a fight unless something brainwashes him. batman cant win unless hes got some form of kryptonite. WHAT WOULD BE AWESOME is superman/batman VS a newly arrived Supergirl. Loeb wrote the novel. Check it out.
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10:01PM on 04/25/2008

I agree with Attorney.

I agree with "The Attorney". They should make "The Dark Knight Returns" movie. EXCEPT, wait ten or 15 years when Bale is older. That way Nolan and Singer will be more excited and willing to do it.
I agree with "The Attorney". They should make "The Dark Knight Returns" movie. EXCEPT, wait ten or 15 years when Bale is older. That way Nolan and Singer will be more excited and willing to do it.
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5:08AM on 04/23/2008

There is a Superman Vs Batman...

There is a batman vs Superman..

Just watch the movie Speechless: Michael Keaton and Christopher Reeves are in some scenes together. A fan boy dream come true!

:-)

JF

There is a batman vs Superman..

Just watch the movie Speechless: Michael Keaton and Christopher Reeves are in some scenes together. A fan boy dream come true!

:-)

JF

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8:00PM on 04/22/2008

Why?

I am not sure who would want this to happen. I am not going to bother to figure out who'd win, but I think it's a bad idea since A) the AVPs have killed all fanboys, B) it'd be way to cheesey, C) Superman should not come back to the screen (Returns was a huge mistake, only the first two are good), and finally what storyline/ plot would bring them together to fight?

On a side-note, Rami might have had a thrid good Spidey film if Avi Arad (the CEO of Marvel at the time) had not FORCED him to
I am not sure who would want this to happen. I am not going to bother to figure out who'd win, but I think it's a bad idea since A) the AVPs have killed all fanboys, B) it'd be way to cheesey, C) Superman should not come back to the screen (Returns was a huge mistake, only the first two are good), and finally what storyline/ plot would bring them together to fight?

On a side-note, Rami might have had a thrid good Spidey film if Avi Arad (the CEO of Marvel at the time) had not FORCED him to have Venom in the film; a character was very vocal about not liking.
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7:19PM on 04/22/2008

Think First, THEN Type A Comment

Many points to be made:
1. The people that are saying "Well c'mon, superman can throw buildings! Batmans just a man!" lets first off remember that superman...is a boy scout. He doesn't kill or try to seriously harm anyone, let alone Batman.

And this is where part two comes in:
If Singer and Nolan teamed up for to make "The Dark Knight Returns" (based on the graphic novel) THAT would be amazing. There is a Batman/Superman fight, and other people from the DC universe show up. Granted, it
Many points to be made:
1. The people that are saying "Well c'mon, superman can throw buildings! Batmans just a man!" lets first off remember that superman...is a boy scout. He doesn't kill or try to seriously harm anyone, let alone Batman.

And this is where part two comes in:
If Singer and Nolan teamed up for to make "The Dark Knight Returns" (based on the graphic novel) THAT would be amazing. There is a Batman/Superman fight, and other people from the DC universe show up. Granted, it is set after Batman "retires" and Bale may possibly be too young for that.

Batman Vs Superman though? That movie just won't happen...ever.

Sequels are good when there is a legitimate GOOD story to tell and the execution of if is near flawless.

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5:30PM on 04/22/2008

why

why would they even bother fighting? it seems like a lame idea.

though the billboard on the movie theatre in 'i am legend' WAS pretty cool.
why would they even bother fighting? it seems like a lame idea.

though the billboard on the movie theatre in 'i am legend' WAS pretty cool.
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5:19PM on 04/22/2008

I see great possiblities

First Superman Returns, despite its flaws, was a good movie.

I would really like to see a JL movie with these two, a World's Finest at least. Definitely NOT a "vs" that has been very lame due to recent examples. More of a team up.

I would give anything to see Bale and Routh play out this scene:
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would be greatest movie ever.
First Superman Returns, despite its flaws, was a good movie.

I would really like to see a JL movie with these two, a World's Finest at least. Definitely NOT a "vs" that has been very lame due to recent examples. More of a team up.

I would give anything to see Bale and Routh play out this scene:
[link] (might have to copy and paste)
would be greatest movie ever.
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5:04PM on 04/22/2008

no

Returns was a terrible film
Returns was a terrible film
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4:21PM on 04/22/2008

Hold on....

When was Superman Returns ever good?
When was Superman Returns ever good?
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4:17PM on 04/22/2008

non-sense...

dude, superman can pass trough a building without any single scratch !! batman have juste no chance... i can't imagine a fight between em :S
dude, superman can pass trough a building without any single scratch !! batman have juste no chance... i can't imagine a fight between em :S
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4:05PM on 04/22/2008

NO WAY

Have we learned nothing from Alien vs. Predator?? Cross-franchise movies never work. Because no matter how good the script is, how good the actors are, you will never be able to live up to either franchise.


And also, this is the Age of Batman hollywood. Keep making Batman movies the way we like em'. Superman is out...for the moment anyway.
Have we learned nothing from Alien vs. Predator?? Cross-franchise movies never work. Because no matter how good the script is, how good the actors are, you will never be able to live up to either franchise.


And also, this is the Age of Batman hollywood. Keep making Batman movies the way we like em'. Superman is out...for the moment anyway.
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4:01PM on 04/22/2008
i'm not really digging versus movies...
to make one flow cohesively it seems you have to water down both components...which pisses all of the hardcore fans down...
i honestly don't care too much for Superman anyway
i'm not really digging versus movies...
to make one flow cohesively it seems you have to water down both components...which pisses all of the hardcore fans down...
i honestly don't care too much for Superman anyway
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3:50PM on 04/22/2008
Superman Returns was a horrendous movies

The logic gap surrounding Superman lifting a continent MADE OF KRYPTONITE, and hurling it into space is baffling enough - but then the rest of the movie just has to be terrible too
Superman Returns was a horrendous movies

The logic gap surrounding Superman lifting a continent MADE OF KRYPTONITE, and hurling it into space is baffling enough - but then the rest of the movie just has to be terrible too
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3:38PM on 04/22/2008

Well

Superman if I am not mistaken is suppose to take place in the real world?
Anyways this would be a fan boy movie and would never make it to the screen. They supposedly cut the funds to the next instalment of the Superman franchise. So who would fund this movie.
MY guess no one.
Singer sucks and any involvement would ruin the whole movie. He would probably come up with a love triangle like all his other super hero movies. Supes and Bats fight over the love of Lois Lane while Cyclops pines in
Superman if I am not mistaken is suppose to take place in the real world?
Anyways this would be a fan boy movie and would never make it to the screen. They supposedly cut the funds to the next instalment of the Superman franchise. So who would fund this movie.
MY guess no one.
Singer sucks and any involvement would ruin the whole movie. He would probably come up with a love triangle like all his other super hero movies. Supes and Bats fight over the love of Lois Lane while Cyclops pines in the corner.
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3:26PM on 04/22/2008

NO! NO! NO!

Why can't we just leave them be? Why does everything have to have a dozen sequels? Let Nolan make the movies he wants to make, then let the franchise die. As for Superman--I'd be happy if they never made another one of those movies.
Why can't we just leave them be? Why does everything have to have a dozen sequels? Let Nolan make the movies he wants to make, then let the franchise die. As for Superman--I'd be happy if they never made another one of those movies.
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3:24PM on 04/22/2008
Versus movies are gay
Versus movies are gay
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1:21PM on 04/22/2008

Sorry, no. This is a bad idea.


This idea may work in the comics, but it'd likely be a complete train wreck in the movies.

That is, Joe Fanboy may drool over this concept (although, as a fanboy myself, I'd have to say that I certainly don't), but the average Joe Public is just going to think that a movie about a modern-day Zorro versus a demi-god extraterrestrial is just, well, silly.

Besides, Nolan's cemented Batman so solidly in the real world that to suddenly plop the wildly fantastical Superman into that scenario

This idea may work in the comics, but it'd likely be a complete train wreck in the movies.

That is, Joe Fanboy may drool over this concept (although, as a fanboy myself, I'd have to say that I certainly don't), but the average Joe Public is just going to think that a movie about a modern-day Zorro versus a demi-god extraterrestrial is just, well, silly.

Besides, Nolan's cemented Batman so solidly in the real world that to suddenly plop the wildly fantastical Superman into that scenario just wouldn't work...at all. (Conversely, Iron Man and the Hulk crossing over would be fine 'cause, tonally, those characters are quite similar.)

So, yeah, this movie's almost as bad of an idea as that stupid JLA thing they're contemplating.
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1:16PM on 04/22/2008

OH C'MON ....

... Batman versus Superman? 1. Why would they fight each other? Obviously they are on the same side.2. If the movie , by some miracle, would be made, next step: JLA.
... Batman versus Superman? 1. Why would they fight each other? Obviously they are on the same side.2. If the movie , by some miracle, would be made, next step: JLA.
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11:51AM on 04/22/2008
Yeah..I'd be down to see this but I have to agree with Chino...Batman would get his ass kicked. I don't even think Superman would bother.
Yeah..I'd be down to see this but I have to agree with Chino...Batman would get his ass kicked. I don't even think Superman would bother.
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11:51AM on 04/22/2008
I believe bruce Wayne's intelligence was the better weapon. He uses a Kryptonite ring at one point in the comics I believe and pastes the shit out of Supes. Works on a comic, but not on the screen
I believe bruce Wayne's intelligence was the better weapon. He uses a Kryptonite ring at one point in the comics I believe and pastes the shit out of Supes. Works on a comic, but not on the screen
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11:24AM on 04/22/2008
Would there even be a fight? I mean, Bats just a man..and Supes can throw buildings...
Would there even be a fight? I mean, Bats just a man..and Supes can throw buildings...
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11:19AM on 04/22/2008
also, i used to like the C'mon Hollywood column, but the last few just aren't good

this column used to have great writting and a nice way to make a point, but now it just seems like pointless ranting, thats my opinion
also, i used to like the C'mon Hollywood column, but the last few just aren't good

this column used to have great writting and a nice way to make a point, but now it just seems like pointless ranting, thats my opinion
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11:17AM on 04/22/2008
cmon, this bullshit complaining about anything related to superheros gives this site a bad name

first off, the majority opinion is that superman returns was shit (look at reviews, IMDB ranking, etc.)

second, why do people on this site keep complaining about JLA and its 'OC cast', when there hasn't been a cast announcement yet; can't you wait to at least see something from the film like pictures or videos before blasting it, maybe this movie isn't going to get made anyways

as for the
cmon, this bullshit complaining about anything related to superheros gives this site a bad name

first off, the majority opinion is that superman returns was shit (look at reviews, IMDB ranking, etc.)

second, why do people on this site keep complaining about JLA and its 'OC cast', when there hasn't been a cast announcement yet; can't you wait to at least see something from the film like pictures or videos before blasting it, maybe this movie isn't going to get made anyways

as for the BvsS idea, I don't really care, I don't see it being better than Batman Begins franchise, so what's the point; I'm sure the storyline in a such a movie would be pretty shitty anyways just like any previous 'versus' movie
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11:16AM on 04/22/2008

Let's Not Ruin a good thing

I'd much prefer the third Nolan/Bale-Bat-film and a sequel to Superman Returns (I thought it was a very good film). Even if Nolan and Singer &Co. were on board, it'd be too risking, it just wouldn't work. So let's just leave it be, and get a third Batman and a second Superman.
I'd much prefer the third Nolan/Bale-Bat-film and a sequel to Superman Returns (I thought it was a very good film). Even if Nolan and Singer &Co. were on board, it'd be too risking, it just wouldn't work. So let's just leave it be, and get a third Batman and a second Superman.
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9:50AM on 04/22/2008
Dear Nac,

What's your source? In fact, you convinced me. Let us all boycott TDK because according to you it is indeed going to suck. By the way Nac, I really want to see Indiana Jones, is that going to be any good or should I just sit and watch Hannah Montana with you?
Dear Nac,

What's your source? In fact, you convinced me. Let us all boycott TDK because according to you it is indeed going to suck. By the way Nac, I really want to see Indiana Jones, is that going to be any good or should I just sit and watch Hannah Montana with you?
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9:06AM on 04/22/2008
The Dark Knight is gonna suck the ass of the whore on 3rd street whose is missing teeth. SUCK!
The Dark Knight is gonna suck the ass of the whore on 3rd street whose is missing teeth. SUCK!
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7:22AM on 04/22/2008
Sorry to be a party pooper but I don't like the idea of this. This concept isn't as appealing as it used to be, Nolan has completely solidified and defined Batman in my opinion and Singer has taken Supes in a refreshing new direction. Both of these concepts I think are very unique on their own but to cross them over would just be.....wierd. Also, BB and TDK are based in reality to a certain degree in the sense that this kind of man can exist and is capable of doing the things he does but
Sorry to be a party pooper but I don't like the idea of this. This concept isn't as appealing as it used to be, Nolan has completely solidified and defined Batman in my opinion and Singer has taken Supes in a refreshing new direction. Both of these concepts I think are very unique on their own but to cross them over would just be.....wierd. Also, BB and TDK are based in reality to a certain degree in the sense that this kind of man can exist and is capable of doing the things he does but Superman is all fantasy. This is all, of course, my humble opinion and I will be surprised if this doesn't happen due to the sheer bank it would make but certainly not with Nolan or Singers involvement and I very much doubt it would star Bale or Routh
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7:15AM on 04/22/2008

??

Superman Returns was a good film?!!!
Superman Returns was a good film?!!!
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