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Jun. 16, 2009by: Sturdy

... what the hell is going on with Robin Hood?
by Sturdy

I typically dont question Ridley Scott. He has a unique, almost obsessed way of making films and since I enjoy 90% of everything he touches, I usually give the guy the benefit of the doubt and go see anything he directs. But there seems to be a lot of crap going on with this ROBIN HOOD film and I dont have a good feeling about it. We probably wont know until we watch the special features on the Blu-ray, but I really want to know why hes so intent on making this film. And if the recent rumors that he and Crowe are fighting on set, or should I say, not talking to each other, then this film could be an embarrassment for everyone involved.

This is just something we dont need. ROBIN HOOD: PRINCE OF THIEVES came out in 1991 and was a decent, linear telling of the legend of Robin Hood. Yeah, I know Costner cant hold a British accent and I still have no idea what Christian Slater was doing there, but the movie was fun, at least when I was 14. The point is that we dont need another linear telling of the story of Robin Hood. If youre going to bring Robin Hood back to the big screen, then do something cool with him and something we havent seen before.


Is Crowe too old to play Robin Hood?

So does this film even have a chance to succeed at this point? Every red flag a movie can have, this one has thrown out there. For starters, it doesnt even sound like they could agree on a concept for the film. We started with the idea of telling the story from the view of the Sherriff of Nottingham, and even though I wasnt a huge fan of that idea, at least it was a new take on an old story. Then there was the idea of Crowe playing both Robin Hood and the Sherriff, which, again, was a bad idea, but at least it was something different. So now it looks like they started filming with the goal of telling a linear Robin Hood story, which a) is a lame idea and b) is unoriginal.


Costner wasnt that bad.

So after three (probably more) incarnations of an idea, they start pre-production and have to recast Maid Merrian when Sienna Miller dropped out. Miller seems like an actress that is trying hard to break into that elite status, so its surprising she would allow anything (even a scheduling conflict) to prevent her from starring in a Scott/Crowe film, but thats a different topic. At least they got Cate Blanchett to step in. But they also started without even casting what is presumably the second lead actor role in the Sherriff of Nottingham. The role supposedly went to Matthew Macfadyen (who?).


At least Elwes held his accent.

Im not saying this Robin Hood film cant be good, Im just saying it seems like a giant clusterf*** at this point. Yeah, I know Ridley Scott is a great director and this kind of stuff happens all the time on his films, but I dont remember reading about this much drama on any of his other films. Ill probably see it no matter what, but in order for Ridley to wow me, hes going to have to do something I havent seen before, not just do something better than Ive seen before.

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9:13AM on 06/16/2009
As long as we don't get a Bryan Adams love song then I'm hip for this. Didn't Crowe and Scott also argued on the set of Gladiator? And look how amazing this turned out to be...
As long as we don't get a Bryan Adams love song then I'm hip for this. Didn't Crowe and Scott also argued on the set of Gladiator? And look how amazing this turned out to be...
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9:19AM on 06/16/2009
"Why A Spoon?"

"Cause It's Dull and it'll Hurt More!"

I still enjoy Prince of Thieves to this day.
"Why A Spoon?"

"Cause It's Dull and it'll Hurt More!"

I still enjoy Prince of Thieves to this day.
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9:20AM on 06/16/2009

I Believe in Ridley Scott

However, the movie better at least be R-rated like "Kingdom of Heaven" and "Gladiator." And I agree, they better do something different with it, at least make Robin Hood a bit realistic.
However, the movie better at least be R-rated like "Kingdom of Heaven" and "Gladiator." And I agree, they better do something different with it, at least make Robin Hood a bit realistic.
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9:38AM on 06/16/2009

not talking to each other,

What about Lean and Guiness

Werner Herzog and Klaus Kinski.

They didn't get along but made fantastic films.
Just because they don't get along, dosen't mean they can't make great films.
I say judge the film when it comes out. But don't judge it because of a cat fight



What about Lean and Guiness

Werner Herzog and Klaus Kinski.

They didn't get along but made fantastic films.
Just because they don't get along, dosen't mean they can't make great films.
I say judge the film when it comes out. But don't judge it because of a cat fight



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10:35AM on 06/16/2009
I have a bad feeling about this too. I think he is too old for Robin Hood BUT maybe they are going the way of the old Connery film "Robin & Marian" with an older version??

And of course british Elwes held the accent...it's AMERICAN accents he can't hold for shit.
I have a bad feeling about this too. I think he is too old for Robin Hood BUT maybe they are going the way of the old Connery film "Robin & Marian" with an older version??

And of course british Elwes held the accent...it's AMERICAN accents he can't hold for shit.
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10:47AM on 06/16/2009

Burn down houses with the credits!!!

Since this is a Robin Hood film, they have to follow suite and launch burning arrows onto peoples houses to reveal credits.

If that doesn't make it then I wont go home happy.
Since this is a Robin Hood film, they have to follow suite and launch burning arrows onto peoples houses to reveal credits.

If that doesn't make it then I wont go home happy.
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11:20AM on 06/16/2009

Flynnanigans

Why no pic of Errol Flynn?

Would have been his 100th Birthday this month. Shame he only made it halfway. Then again, he did shag, drink, and roister his way to the grave so I guess he had no complaints...
Why no pic of Errol Flynn?

Would have been his 100th Birthday this month. Shame he only made it halfway. Then again, he did shag, drink, and roister his way to the grave so I guess he had no complaints...
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11:39AM on 06/16/2009
why do you have to keep lying. Sienna Miller did not drop out, she was fired.
why do you have to keep lying. Sienna Miller did not drop out, she was fired.
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12:31PM on 06/16/2009

@ Gayzilla

Accoding to all sources, because of the delays in preproduction, and because Miller was already set t make other movies, she dropped out. What makes you think she got fired?
Accoding to all sources, because of the delays in preproduction, and because Miller was already set t make other movies, she dropped out. What makes you think she got fired?
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1:42PM on 06/16/2009
Robin hood reminds me of exactly the situation that happened in Entourage. haha
Robin hood reminds me of exactly the situation that happened in Entourage. haha
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1:55PM on 06/16/2009
i really liked this c'mon hollywood. i've been wondering the exact same stuff for a while now and i actually thought the story through the eyes of the sheriff would be awesome! unfortunately since this is shaping up to be another linear telling of the tale and i really think Scott is the most overrated director working today i'll probably wait for the rental on this business.
i really liked this c'mon hollywood. i've been wondering the exact same stuff for a while now and i actually thought the story through the eyes of the sheriff would be awesome! unfortunately since this is shaping up to be another linear telling of the tale and i really think Scott is the most overrated director working today i'll probably wait for the rental on this business.
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2:07PM on 06/16/2009

shutup

This is one of the worst Come on Hollywood articles ever. This movie is in my top 5 for anticipated films and Russell Crowe is going to rock as Robin Hood.

He totally looks like Maximus from Gladiator in that photo, which is just fantastic. Sooooooo shutup.
This is one of the worst Come on Hollywood articles ever. This movie is in my top 5 for anticipated films and Russell Crowe is going to rock as Robin Hood.

He totally looks like Maximus from Gladiator in that photo, which is just fantastic. Sooooooo shutup.
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2:34PM on 06/16/2009
Actually, everything about Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves was good, except for Costner. Scott and Crowe could pull something out, but yeah, Errol Flynn *was* Robin Hood the same way Alan Rickman *was* the Sheriff of Nottingham.

BTW, Matthew Macfadyen played John Birt in Frost/Nixon. Good actor, but no Alan Rickman.
Actually, everything about Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves was good, except for Costner. Scott and Crowe could pull something out, but yeah, Errol Flynn *was* Robin Hood the same way Alan Rickman *was* the Sheriff of Nottingham.

BTW, Matthew Macfadyen played John Birt in Frost/Nixon. Good actor, but no Alan Rickman.
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3:14PM on 06/16/2009
I still think that Michael 'Robin of Sherwood' Praed was, BY FAR, the best Robin Hood. With his almost ethereal airs, he often seemed like some woodland spirit come to life, and was an interesting contrast to his gritty band of 'Merry Men'.

And I, too, am worried about this new movie. It's bad enough when people can't settle on a script...but when they can't even seemingly settle on the actual story itself? Yikes.
I still think that Michael 'Robin of Sherwood' Praed was, BY FAR, the best Robin Hood. With his almost ethereal airs, he often seemed like some woodland spirit come to life, and was an interesting contrast to his gritty band of 'Merry Men'.

And I, too, am worried about this new movie. It's bad enough when people can't settle on a script...but when they can't even seemingly settle on the actual story itself? Yikes.
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5:06PM on 06/16/2009
I still love Prince of Thieves. I agree that nothing really makes this movie stand out, and seems a bit unnecessary, but given the talent involved I'm sure it'll be good. I think if they strayed to far away from an original telling of the Robin Hood character (like making him the bad guy, as was once suggested), we'd still have a decent amount of complaints (i.e. Sherlock Holmes).
I still love Prince of Thieves. I agree that nothing really makes this movie stand out, and seems a bit unnecessary, but given the talent involved I'm sure it'll be good. I think if they strayed to far away from an original telling of the Robin Hood character (like making him the bad guy, as was once suggested), we'd still have a decent amount of complaints (i.e. Sherlock Holmes).
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5:39PM on 06/16/2009

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I loved the idea of twisting the story to the Sheriff of Nottingham as the hero and Robin Hood being shown in a negative light. When it was first announced I was like "Yes, somebody's doing something different!" and they just went and threw that out!
I loved the idea of twisting the story to the Sheriff of Nottingham as the hero and Robin Hood being shown in a negative light. When it was first announced I was like "Yes, somebody's doing something different!" and they just went and threw that out!
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6:03PM on 06/16/2009
Just another in the corner for the original concept. Crowe as the Sheriff, the sheriff as the good guy would have been bad ass. Crowe as Robin Hood just looks stupid.
Just another in the corner for the original concept. Crowe as the Sheriff, the sheriff as the good guy would have been bad ass. Crowe as Robin Hood just looks stupid.
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9:22PM on 06/16/2009
I think he has to be the priest
I think he has to be the priest
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10:24PM on 06/16/2009

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you're an idiot if you haven't heard of matthew macfadyen before.
you're an idiot if you haven't heard of matthew macfadyen before.
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2:35PM on 06/17/2009
Probably the biggest thing I can think of to stand against this, is Crowe is already older than Sean Connery when he played an old Robin Hood. Each version so far has pretty much done SOMETHING new, adding magical elements, a Moorish companion, bring back Robin Hood twenty years later. Make him a fox.

And wasn't Nottingham one of those spec scripts that was considered this great original undeveloped screenplay?
Probably the biggest thing I can think of to stand against this, is Crowe is already older than Sean Connery when he played an old Robin Hood. Each version so far has pretty much done SOMETHING new, adding magical elements, a Moorish companion, bring back Robin Hood twenty years later. Make him a fox.

And wasn't Nottingham one of those spec scripts that was considered this great original undeveloped screenplay?
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