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09.09.2009

...Disney and Marvel?
by J.A. Hamilton

Now I知 not trying to beat a dead horse here, but this has been the talk of the town for the past few days and I simply wanted to throw in my two cents. I must say this came as a bit of a shock to me. I know Marvel went bankrupt back in 1996, a horrible time for comic book fans as a lot of their favorite titles went from issue number 度xx back to zero, starting over from scratch. Soon after, Marvel began heating up theater seats and reaping phat sums of cash in the movie biz. Marvel痴 film library however, is anything but consistent. Some people love these films, while others have simply lost faith and feel we値l never get a truly 兎pic Super Hero movie. And then this bomb hits, throwing people痴 already mixed emotions/opinions into a tangent. I too, tilted my head in confusion when I read the news. Good? Bad? Well, lets look over some of the facts.

Our heroes face their greatest challenge yet...new management


First we have Stan Lee, who comes out with a grande speech about how great a day it is for the two companies and the entertainment community as a whole. Everyone wins, he says. Well, here痴 the thing. How can there be any validity to a person痴 words in regards to business and money when the person in question stands to gain by set merger. Even if what he said IS true, and that痴 exactly how he feels about the issue, it would be like Disney putting up four billion dollars for the rights to all things Harry Potter and then having J. K. Rowling come out with a big smile saying 典his is best thing for the characters and series, I couldn稚 be happier. Everyone wins. I was more interested in what Lee had to say in September痴 issue of Maxim. 的 was always saying, we should be another Disney! And now we池e getting close. That statement could be taken any number of ways, but how many of them are good?

I'M RICH BITCH!


Speaking of money, four billion dollars is no small piece of change. I mean, sweet Jesus, the only other time I can recall hearing the word 澱illion being used in reference to actually buying something was in regard to all the economic bailout talk. With a number like four billion, one would have to assume there were some major negotiations going on (a theory reinforced by Stan Lee痴 Maxim comments it would seem), and that in the end, Disney wanted Marvel something fierce. Some people tried comparing this news to Warner Brother acquisition of DC comics, saying it痴 not a big deal. Well, no, it wouldn稚 have been a big deal if say, Paramount Pictures bought Marvel, because like Warner Brothers, Paramount isn稚 a company built on a foundation of children oriented cinema like Disney is. So as far as I知 concerned, there痴 really no comparing the two.

Something I NEVER thought I'd see, much less enjoy


Disney is honoring all existing Marvel contracts at this time, which is good news, however I highly doubt those contracts will be renewed. That said, if changes are immanent as far as the future of some of our favorite heroes are concerned, we probably won稚 see it for at least another five years. It痴 hard to say what痴 in store for the Marvel universe (theatrically), the only Disney team up I致e ever seen was in the way of the KINGDOM HEARTS video game series. Disney and Square Enix (the minds behind FINAL FANTASY), teamed up and produced a world where all my favorite FF characters interacted with the many Disney heroes and villains. The result? Admittedly, a fun as hell time. The stories retained the FF intrigue, suspense and seriousness, whilst splashing a little Disney flavor in there for kicks. There痴 a vast difference between video game unions and film unions however, but I feel the need to point out that in regard to THIS union, everyone DID win.

If nothing else, this is gonna make for some cool theme park ideas


I enjoyed the hell out of the first two PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN flicks (the third was garbage), but that wasn稚 all Disney, I知 pretty sure Jerry Bruckheimer had something to do with it. I even liked the two CHRONICLES OF NARNIA titles. The first one was a bit kiddyish at times, but PRINCE CASPIAN more than made up for it. My point? Though something about this merger does strike me as odd, I strongly doubt ANY company would invest four billion dollars into a sinking ship, or even a broken one in need of serious repairs. I really don稚 think Disney痴 gonna try to reinvent the wheel here. It痴 my hope that this is a sign of Disney痴 growth as a company, that acquiring Marvel was a way to explore a more mature venue and as a result reach out to a wider audience. Time will tell, but for better or worse, Marvel has been assimilated and resistence is futile.
Extra Tidbit: Remember in SPACE JAM when Yosemite Sam and Elmer Fudd (pimped out like Vincent and Jules) shot the hell out of one of the bad guys to the theme music of PULP FICTION? Well, Disney also owns (the VERY mature) Miramax studios. Just another something to consider.
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6:39PM on 09/09/2009
First thing to go once contracts are up is the inclusion of positive gay romances within certain series.

I mean, if Disney had its way, they'd sew up the vagina of every single one of their female stars and turn them into breathing Barbie dolls, so sexuality on the Marvel front is in for a complete overhaul the second that people forget who's in charge.

I guess I'd remind people to watch THIS MOVIE IS NOT YET RATED and understand that the industry is founded on a handful of
First thing to go once contracts are up is the inclusion of positive gay romances within certain series.

I mean, if Disney had its way, they'd sew up the vagina of every single one of their female stars and turn them into breathing Barbie dolls, so sexuality on the Marvel front is in for a complete overhaul the second that people forget who's in charge.

I guess I'd remind people to watch THIS MOVIE IS NOT YET RATED and understand that the industry is founded on a handful of monopoly-esque conglomerates.
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8:00PM on 09/09/2009
No. They wouldn't.
No. They wouldn't.
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6:29PM on 09/09/2009
Yeah, it's no secret that DC has been giving Marvel a run for its money, especially since the new Batman films. Ironman was great, but maybe Marvel was starting to feel the pressure.
Yeah, it's no secret that DC has been giving Marvel a run for its money, especially since the new Batman films. Ironman was great, but maybe Marvel was starting to feel the pressure.
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5:48PM on 09/09/2009
Marvel's movie line-up was FAR to ambitious for them. Its better they have these resources. DC Comics has been owned by the Looney Tunes people for so long I have a hard time thinking Marvel being owned by the Mickey Mouse people will be much different.
Marvel's movie line-up was FAR to ambitious for them. Its better they have these resources. DC Comics has been owned by the Looney Tunes people for so long I have a hard time thinking Marvel being owned by the Mickey Mouse people will be much different.
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4:16PM on 09/09/2009
Meh i don't see the big deal, man this article has lost its stamina in such a short time. It's ridiculous to see the words Disney & automatically think of kiddy studio, its one to state opinion but at least show some valid reason. That entire article just made you sound like a typical bitching fanboy. tsk tsk
Meh i don't see the big deal, man this article has lost its stamina in such a short time. It's ridiculous to see the words Disney & automatically think of kiddy studio, its one to state opinion but at least show some valid reason. That entire article just made you sound like a typical bitching fanboy. tsk tsk
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2:19PM on 09/09/2009

Will they loose the edge

What concerns me the most about this news is what is going to happen to those dark edged characters. I mean you got to admit..Marvel had some of the caziest bad asses out there. Some movies like punisher had some pretty dark elements to them and if you kiddy frendly them up..make for terrible movies..not that the new punisher was anything special. but some of these movies could have rocked the house if hey werent restricted to pg13 ratings. Let the darker side come out and see what will
What concerns me the most about this news is what is going to happen to those dark edged characters. I mean you got to admit..Marvel had some of the caziest bad asses out there. Some movies like punisher had some pretty dark elements to them and if you kiddy frendly them up..make for terrible movies..not that the new punisher was anything special. but some of these movies could have rocked the house if hey werent restricted to pg13 ratings. Let the darker side come out and see what will happen, if disney can let them do that ..then bam..you might have a good merger..but im not counting on it.
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2:06PM on 09/09/2009
Yeah, they gotta let the Pirates of the Caribbean series go. Narnia films were ok, and Pixar's still going strong. I hope this marvel merger gives them some better film ideas.
Yeah, they gotta let the Pirates of the Caribbean series go. Narnia films were ok, and Pixar's still going strong. I hope this marvel merger gives them some better film ideas.
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1:51PM on 09/09/2009

Who Framed Roger Rabbit

1. Mash-up
2. Made by Disney
3. AWESOME!!!
1. Mash-up
2. Made by Disney
3. AWESOME!!!
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12:57PM on 09/09/2009

Think logically

Two words - Hannah Montana. Disney owns the tween/early teen girl market. When you think about the same age bracket amongst boys, not so much. Disney just bought the ability to market and sell to every tween and teen fanboy out there, they now have the ability to OWN the 15 and under market. Disney XD is there boys outlet, think of all the titles that can shift from Cartoon Network and Nick to Disney. Disney wants Marvel as Marvel, an avenue into a market they've been desperately trying to
Two words - Hannah Montana. Disney owns the tween/early teen girl market. When you think about the same age bracket amongst boys, not so much. Disney just bought the ability to market and sell to every tween and teen fanboy out there, they now have the ability to OWN the 15 and under market. Disney XD is there boys outlet, think of all the titles that can shift from Cartoon Network and Nick to Disney. Disney wants Marvel as Marvel, an avenue into a market they've been desperately trying to break into. It also gets a lot of 30-something dads as involved as the 30 something moms. Brilliant move, and better exposure for the Marvel catalog.
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12:32PM on 09/09/2009

Disney buys Marvel

Mehh, we really have no control over it, so I知 not gonna worry about it, Although the idea of a Kingdom Hearts movie sounds kinda cool, Kingdom Hearts were cool games, I always thought of them as the 泥arker side to Disney, made me feel like a kid again, yet retained all the coolness factors from the Final Fantasy series. And I don稚 think Square has made a single thing I wasn稚 all over like a fat kid on a cupcake anyways. But that痴 got nothing to do with the merger anyways.. what does
Mehh, we really have no control over it, so I知 not gonna worry about it, Although the idea of a Kingdom Hearts movie sounds kinda cool, Kingdom Hearts were cool games, I always thought of them as the 泥arker side to Disney, made me feel like a kid again, yet retained all the coolness factors from the Final Fantasy series. And I don稚 think Square has made a single thing I wasn稚 all over like a fat kid on a cupcake anyways. But that痴 got nothing to do with the merger anyways.. what does however, is those of you worried about the theme park rides, fear not Disney said they will honor the existing agreements with Universal, keeping in mind that Universal痴 intellectual property rights are limited geographically to the use of the Marvel brand in Orlando and the Spider-Man brand in Japan. Disney on the other hand is already building a new theme park in Dubai (dubbed 泥ubailand) that will incorporate a 100-acre Marvel Superheroes theme park (and will have a XMen danger room) set to open in 2012 (Apparently no one told Disney about the end of the Mayan Calendar that year..LOL!).

As for Unviersal, they are also building parks in both Dubai and Singapore, nither of which will have any access to the Marvel brand.
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12:15PM on 09/09/2009

It's a corporation!

This is EXACTLY like WB buying DC. Disney isn't just the kiddie movie studio, channel, and theme parks, it's a major communication conglomerate that owns a crapton of things including ABC, ESPN, Discovery Channel, A&E, a bunch of newspapers, and an NHL team in addition to the commonly mentioned Miramax. They cater to more than just children.
This is EXACTLY like WB buying DC. Disney isn't just the kiddie movie studio, channel, and theme parks, it's a major communication conglomerate that owns a crapton of things including ABC, ESPN, Discovery Channel, A&E, a bunch of newspapers, and an NHL team in addition to the commonly mentioned Miramax. They cater to more than just children.
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12:12PM on 09/09/2009
A good read (but you really gotta watch your spelling, J.A.). The thing that really struck me about the Disney/Marvel merger was they were talking about an initial meeting John Lasseter had with Marvel's senior creative team. They started throwing ideas around so fast that the lawyers had to caution them: "Guys, this merger isn't final yet. Don't get ahead of yourselves."

I may be iffy on Disney, but I trust Lasseter.

$4 billion for Marvel? Disney paid $7.4 billion for Pixar.
A good read (but you really gotta watch your spelling, J.A.). The thing that really struck me about the Disney/Marvel merger was they were talking about an initial meeting John Lasseter had with Marvel's senior creative team. They started throwing ideas around so fast that the lawyers had to caution them: "Guys, this merger isn't final yet. Don't get ahead of yourselves."

I may be iffy on Disney, but I trust Lasseter.

$4 billion for Marvel? Disney paid $7.4 billion for Pixar.
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11:35AM on 09/09/2009

I'm glad you see it that way

I thought many people were ignorant when they first heard the news. I mean, like you said, Disney was responsible for Kill Bill
I thought many people were ignorant when they first heard the news. I mean, like you said, Disney was responsible for Kill Bill
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11:06AM on 09/09/2009
but the fact that miramax is owned by disney is not as well known as the purchase of marvel has been. theres more motive to keep things wholesome because people will make a connection between marvel and disney. and i dont like the fact that my favorite rides will be gone from universal now. i dont have the money to go to universal, my favorite place on earth, and disney's probable "marvel land"
but the fact that miramax is owned by disney is not as well known as the purchase of marvel has been. theres more motive to keep things wholesome because people will make a connection between marvel and disney. and i dont like the fact that my favorite rides will be gone from universal now. i dont have the money to go to universal, my favorite place on earth, and disney's probable "marvel land"
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11:04AM on 09/09/2009
the point that disney owns miramax doesn't mean much. marvel is something that disney will probably want to change. but if they leave marvel alone and just let it be then this whole deal is for the better. if they take over, however, i'm screwed
the point that disney owns miramax doesn't mean much. marvel is something that disney will probably want to change. but if they leave marvel alone and just let it be then this whole deal is for the better. if they take over, however, i'm screwed
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11:12AM on 09/09/2009
Why the hell would Disney want to change anything Marvel-related after stating they believe Marvel is doing a fantastic job and don't feel they need to interact?

Oh, right, because you didn't read any follow-ups.
Why the hell would Disney want to change anything Marvel-related after stating they believe Marvel is doing a fantastic job and don't feel they need to interact?

Oh, right, because you didn't read any follow-ups.
11:31AM on 09/09/2009
I think we're all screwed.
I think we're all screwed.
9:54AM on 09/09/2009

Movies

Yeah, it's hard to tell what path they'll choose with future Marvel titles, but you're right about the Pirates and Narnia movies, they weren't too bad.

I'm excited about the rides too, I go to Disney World and Universal Studios every year.
Yeah, it's hard to tell what path they'll choose with future Marvel titles, but you're right about the Pirates and Narnia movies, they weren't too bad.

I'm excited about the rides too, I go to Disney World and Universal Studios every year.
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9:44AM on 09/09/2009
Yeah, here's hoping you're right and I love the Kingdom Hearts angle, they were good games.
Yeah, here's hoping you're right and I love the Kingdom Hearts angle, they were good games.
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9:18AM on 09/09/2009

That's what I said

Thanks for echoing my sentiment on Stan Lee's comments about the buyout. Quite frankly nobody cares what you think at this point Stan. You've shown that it's just a big freakin payday to you and your credibility is more than suspect by now. We know you're a freakin gazillionaire by now so just zip it old man, go hang out with Hefner, count your money and dream about the time when you could still get it up!
Thanks for echoing my sentiment on Stan Lee's comments about the buyout. Quite frankly nobody cares what you think at this point Stan. You've shown that it's just a big freakin payday to you and your credibility is more than suspect by now. We know you're a freakin gazillionaire by now so just zip it old man, go hang out with Hefner, count your money and dream about the time when you could still get it up!
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8:34AM on 09/09/2009
I'm happy Disney bought Marvel. People need to stop thinking that Disney will ruin Marvel films because they're kid friendly. Ugh excuse me did anyone forget Disney owns Touchstone and Miramax.
I'm happy Disney bought Marvel. People need to stop thinking that Disney will ruin Marvel films because they're kid friendly. Ugh excuse me did anyone forget Disney owns Touchstone and Miramax.
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8:13AM on 09/09/2009

Space Jam not Disney's

Wasn't Warner the studio behind Space Jam and the Looney Tunes?
Just a reminder...
Wasn't Warner the studio behind Space Jam and the Looney Tunes?
Just a reminder...
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7:45AM on 09/09/2009
That was a great read
That was a great read
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