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C'MON HOLLYWOOD: Can Captain America live up to the hype?

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...can Captain America live up to the hype?
by J.A. Hamilton

I hate to beat up on Cap, but all this ridiculous hype and news surrounding this movie is getting way too out of control. Whether or not people want to admit it, Cap is a second tier hero when it comes to the all out glamour weíre used to, a character of importance donít get me wrong, but heís a lot like Nick Fury, Professor Xavier and Reed Richards. All these heroes have their place as leaders of teams, but theyíve become more like ďsymbols of goodĒ in the fight against evil. Captain America is a face that needs to be seen, but Iím afraid the hype train is making this movie (and him) out to be more than he truly is.


I sure hope Cap's legacy doesn't go up in flames.

One of the most annoying aspects of this has be all this cast news. I mean, come on, do we really need a five, ten or fifteen name roster of nobodies dragged through the mud over all this? And who in the hell came up with the idea of that fool from the OFFICE, John Krasinski, being a contender!? Thatís one of the dumbest things Iíve ever heard of! Not that Iím jumping for joy over the latest roster either. Channing Tatum is alright, I donít hate the guy, but I couldnít see him pulling it off. I love the idea of Ryan Phillipe, but theyíd have to work some camera magic on his height and ultimately heís been low key as of late so that probably worked against him. I like Chris Evans, but Iím more than a little worried as going from Johnny Storm to Cap is quite a transition.


In retrospect, this shouldn't be tough to beat.

Another bone I have to pick with all this is Capís story and overall concept. Letís be honest here, the Red Skull is a weaksauce villain, thereís just no getting around that. And though I dig Capís super soldier serum background, what I donít want to sit through is a film based in the time of World War II and the Hitler/Nazi era. Iíve never liked that aspect of Capís background, and the only way it could work in my eyes is if they did it the same ULTIMATE AVENGERS did it, which would be to open up with a ten minute fight scene (mid war) ending with Cap saving the day and then somehow falling into the ocean and being frozen in ice. Fast forward that to present day, the government find his body, thaw him out and bring him up to par on world events.


This whole character is just wrong.

Now that leads me to my next point: THE AVENGERS. The biggest reason (other than money) Hollywood is pushing so hard for a Captain America movie in the first place is to bridge this whole Avengers deal. But again, I think Cap could be introduced into the Avengers movie exactly like I just explained, with Nick Fury enlisting him into THE AVENGERS. Thereís no need for a full feature film, and certainly no need to see Cap in his twenties. The manís a veteran, a leader, not some young douche with a chip on his shoulder. But the other thing I have a problem with is how in the hell do you make use of a hero with a shield? Itís not like heís going to throw it and have it boomerang back to him like it does in the comics, so Iím a little worried about the cheese factor there.


This story paints a solid picture, let's hope they use it.

I enjoyed Captain America in comic book seriesí like THE INFINITY GAUNTLET, INFINITE WAR and INFINITY CRUSADE. I also read THE DEATH OF CAPTAIN AMERICA series and again, feel that Cap is a hero worth mentioning, but Iím still not sold on this feature film or all the hype surrounding it. Thereís a reason Capís stayed off the silver screen until now (letís forget about that eighties mess of a film), and in my opinion itís because he was a) not needed and b) not really in demand outside the whole Avengers thing. This just feels weak all around, and all this hype and drama seems to be geared at ďSNAKES ON A PLANEĒ tactics to make a big fuss and get people interested because they know they donít really have shit all here. I hope Iím wrong, I do, but thatís the feeling Iím getting and itís not very cool.
Extra Tidbit: One of my favorite things about Chris Evans is his sarcastic humour...a trait completely opposite of Cap's personality. This should be interesting.
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11:34PM on 04/06/2010

yo

i agree with paco99 totally, film it gritty war style, like Ryan and B.O.B. the pacific and such, start it out from the begining, yea the 80's movie sucked, but at least somebody tried it, i liked it when i was 9...
i agree with paco99 totally, film it gritty war style, like Ryan and B.O.B. the pacific and such, start it out from the begining, yea the 80's movie sucked, but at least somebody tried it, i liked it when i was 9...
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1:06AM on 03/31/2010
your points are so wrong that they're laughable.
your points are so wrong that they're laughable.
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1:38PM on 03/27/2010

NO WW2 are you serious ?

there has to be a considerable portion of the movie in WW2, it will fail without it i don't know how you think it would be boring
there has to be a considerable portion of the movie in WW2, it will fail without it i don't know how you think it would be boring
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12:47AM on 03/25/2010

valid points...

but you should realise that cap has a colossal fan base, he's one of marvel's flagships, like spiderman, x-men, iron-man, fantastic four etc. you seem old enough to remember the cheese fest that was the first cap movie, but that was the era of movies such as 'condor man', cut the guy some slack, once the script stay's true to the evolution of the character as in the comics there should not be any problems. and to have just an introduction of cap at the start of an avengers movie would make the
but you should realise that cap has a colossal fan base, he's one of marvel's flagships, like spiderman, x-men, iron-man, fantastic four etc. you seem old enough to remember the cheese fest that was the first cap movie, but that was the era of movies such as 'condor man', cut the guy some slack, once the script stay's true to the evolution of the character as in the comics there should not be any problems. and to have just an introduction of cap at the start of an avengers movie would make the movie 3hrs long, if not longer, because everyone else on the team has interesting origin stories as well, if iron man can get a series of movies why cant cap? the dude led the civil war, them brass balls alone should be enough to qualify the dude foo 1 or 2 movies.
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11:03PM on 03/24/2010

Strongly Disagree

I'm glad I'm not the only casual Joblo fan that set up a strikeback account to rally against this weeks C'Mon Hollywood. Normally this segment of the site is my favorite but everything written here is so short sited. Captain America is NOT second tier and neither are Reed Richards and Professor X. Just because they're the leaders of their teams does not mean they aren't essential. This Captain America movie is important because this is going to set up The Avengers series of films. Red Skull is
I'm glad I'm not the only casual Joblo fan that set up a strikeback account to rally against this weeks C'Mon Hollywood. Normally this segment of the site is my favorite but everything written here is so short sited. Captain America is NOT second tier and neither are Reed Richards and Professor X. Just because they're the leaders of their teams does not mean they aren't essential. This Captain America movie is important because this is going to set up The Avengers series of films. Red Skull is also not weak at all, he's a cold calculating seemingly immortal Nazi General! And this talk of the shield being lame is ludicrous IT'S MADE OUT OF ADMANTIUM FOR CHRISTSAKES. I hope the real writer of C'mon Hollywood takes over next week I have no idea who this yahoo is. It seems like C'mon Hollywood needs to come on!
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8:10PM on 03/24/2010
Although Iīm satisfied with Evans, I just realised who I had wanted.. Ben Foster
Although Iīm satisfied with Evans, I just realised who I had wanted.. Ben Foster
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6:23PM on 03/24/2010
Get Tom Hanks and Spielberg to produce it and make it like Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers with Captain AMerica in it. That would be the stuff!!
Get Tom Hanks and Spielberg to produce it and make it like Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers with Captain AMerica in it. That would be the stuff!!
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2:55PM on 03/24/2010
The Second World War setting is the thing I'm looking forward to most about this movie! If they set it modern day, I'll have little or no interest in seeing it. Having the Nazis as villains was one of the many things lacking from Indy IV. I really thought that movie as gonna be based around Nazis who escaped to South America after the war. WWII is such a great, endless source for adventure movies with cool, recognisable technologies.... and leaves room for the fantasy element of secret Nazi
The Second World War setting is the thing I'm looking forward to most about this movie! If they set it modern day, I'll have little or no interest in seeing it. Having the Nazis as villains was one of the many things lacking from Indy IV. I really thought that movie as gonna be based around Nazis who escaped to South America after the war. WWII is such a great, endless source for adventure movies with cool, recognisable technologies.... and leaves room for the fantasy element of secret Nazi weapons programmes, etc. Bring it on. I do agree with your point about the Avengers movie though. It does feel like this is being made simply to facilitate that film.
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8:00AM on 03/24/2010

YOU'RE NUTS MAN

Cap is a legend. Sure he's not as popular as Spidey or Batman or Superman....but if you actually read some comics that Captain America is in, you'd know how great he is.

Read INFINITY GAUNTLET and then come back and call him "weak ass hero"
Cap is a legend. Sure he's not as popular as Spidey or Batman or Superman....but if you actually read some comics that Captain America is in, you'd know how great he is.

Read INFINITY GAUNTLET and then come back and call him "weak ass hero"
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2:07PM on 03/24/2010
Maybe you should actually read his article dumbass, he mentions the Infinite Gauntlet.
Maybe you should actually read his article dumbass, he mentions the Infinite Gauntlet.
4:10AM on 03/24/2010
This honestly didn't feel like it was written by the same guy. Usually these articles are very thoughtful, but not this time. I know almost nothing about Captain America, but simply calling Red Skull "weaksauce" and then saying nothing to back up that claim is just lazy writing.
This honestly didn't feel like it was written by the same guy. Usually these articles are very thoughtful, but not this time. I know almost nothing about Captain America, but simply calling Red Skull "weaksauce" and then saying nothing to back up that claim is just lazy writing.
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4:03AM on 03/24/2010

Hollywood?

Shouldn't this be called C'mon Marvel Studios? Hollywood isn't behind this film.
Shouldn't this be called C'mon Marvel Studios? Hollywood isn't behind this film.
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3:17AM on 03/24/2010
Captain America is a boring ass hero. That coming from a man who knows nothing of the mythos whatsoever.
Captain America is a boring ass hero. That coming from a man who knows nothing of the mythos whatsoever.
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1:40AM on 03/24/2010
They should film somewhat similar to Wolverine's beginning. Just have a half hour showing us Caps origin and then a story set in the present.
They should film somewhat similar to Wolverine's beginning. Just have a half hour showing us Caps origin and then a story set in the present.
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11:54PM on 03/23/2010
the danger is having it come off as a cheap videogame ww2 story. or putting things in that dont fit the tone the captian america story sets ( it'd be like wearing neon green pants to a funeral. just not in good taste.)
the danger is having it come off as a cheap videogame ww2 story. or putting things in that dont fit the tone the captian america story sets ( it'd be like wearing neon green pants to a funeral. just not in good taste.)
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10:33PM on 03/23/2010
Captain America=who cares???
Captain America=who cares???
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9:31PM on 03/23/2010
What happened to the old C'Mon Hollywood writer? This is one of the worst C'Mon Hollywood's I've ever read and it's not even because of the source material. Usually these articles are made for things that Hollywood royally fucks up on like unnecessary sequels, CGI, 3-D or actors taking awful roles. This seems like it's your own personal opinion and while that's OK and all... put it on a blog instead.
What happened to the old C'Mon Hollywood writer? This is one of the worst C'Mon Hollywood's I've ever read and it's not even because of the source material. Usually these articles are made for things that Hollywood royally fucks up on like unnecessary sequels, CGI, 3-D or actors taking awful roles. This seems like it's your own personal opinion and while that's OK and all... put it on a blog instead.
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5:25AM on 03/25/2010
Are you retarded? All of his articles are opinions.
Are you retarded? All of his articles are opinions.
9:09PM on 03/23/2010
Wow, Highly disagree with you here. i think basing this movie all in World War 2 is the best part about it. (but i have been watching a lot of band of brothers and the pacific lately ha ha) plus Red Skull is an amazing badguy, cant go wrong with Nazis as the baddies. And Captain America is no second tier hero. I would love to see Captain America in modern times, but that's what sequels are for. A captain America movie done like a bond flick would be kick ass, Brubaker styles all the way.
Wow, Highly disagree with you here. i think basing this movie all in World War 2 is the best part about it. (but i have been watching a lot of band of brothers and the pacific lately ha ha) plus Red Skull is an amazing badguy, cant go wrong with Nazis as the baddies. And Captain America is no second tier hero. I would love to see Captain America in modern times, but that's what sequels are for. A captain America movie done like a bond flick would be kick ass, Brubaker styles all the way.
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8:10PM on 03/23/2010

WTH

Well i think the writer of this article sounds alot like many of the douchey producers in hollywood who think they have their finger on the pulse of the fans....which they do not. Weak sauce villian yeah thats why he's been around for 50 years 50 YEARS (now thats sarcasm), as for Captain America one of the greatest characters marvel has to offer he the regular guy other than the serum making him at top physical perfection he's got no other powers but will still stand toe to toe with those that
Well i think the writer of this article sounds alot like many of the douchey producers in hollywood who think they have their finger on the pulse of the fans....which they do not. Weak sauce villian yeah thats why he's been around for 50 years 50 YEARS (now thats sarcasm), as for Captain America one of the greatest characters marvel has to offer he the regular guy other than the serum making him at top physical perfection he's got no other powers but will still stand toe to toe with those that do if he thinks he's on the side of right not just physical but inner strength i think he's a great character......and i'm canadian!!!
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8:03PM on 03/23/2010

Now that retard had his say

Yeah, everyone on this site drools over Ingloreous Basterds, but a Nazi in a skull mask is weaksauce. And putting CA, the title character of Easy Rider, in the same package as a guy in a wheelchair, a police officer in a world of superheroes, and a science nerd, is the depth of foolishness.
Yeah, everyone on this site drools over Ingloreous Basterds, but a Nazi in a skull mask is weaksauce. And putting CA, the title character of Easy Rider, in the same package as a guy in a wheelchair, a police officer in a world of superheroes, and a science nerd, is the depth of foolishness.
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6:48PM on 03/23/2010
Captain America is one of the biggest Marvel Heroes. He stands up there with Wolverine and Spider-Man opposite of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. He is a hero who is worthy of a feature film and is a real symbol of Heroic symbolism and journey.
Captain America is one of the biggest Marvel Heroes. He stands up there with Wolverine and Spider-Man opposite of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. He is a hero who is worthy of a feature film and is a real symbol of Heroic symbolism and journey.
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6:07PM on 03/23/2010
When did Cap become second tier? he has always been the driving force in the Marvel Universe he led automatically took lead of the mightiest hero team around just by his mere prescence. Hell he's the one who has finally taken charge and is leading the charge against Norman Osborne.
When did Cap become second tier? he has always been the driving force in the Marvel Universe he led automatically took lead of the mightiest hero team around just by his mere prescence. Hell he's the one who has finally taken charge and is leading the charge against Norman Osborne.
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3:41PM on 03/23/2010
everyones entitled to their opinion but i disagree with almost everything in this article. cap IS an iconic top tier marvel character and more deserving of his own movie than most of the characters that already have movies. red skull is one of the most badass evil villains in comics history. caps WWII origins are very interesting and frankly if that WASNT what the movie was about i would be disappointed. plus those infinity war/gem/whatever comics were some of the lamest comics ever printed.
everyones entitled to their opinion but i disagree with almost everything in this article. cap IS an iconic top tier marvel character and more deserving of his own movie than most of the characters that already have movies. red skull is one of the most badass evil villains in comics history. caps WWII origins are very interesting and frankly if that WASNT what the movie was about i would be disappointed. plus those infinity war/gem/whatever comics were some of the lamest comics ever printed.
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3:11PM on 03/23/2010

Please do more research.

After visiting this site for 5 years, I've finally signed up to comment on this "article". Captain America is NOT a "second tier" hero, he's actually one of Marvel's top three(Cap, Spidey, and Wolverine). He's more popular than Iron Man or the F4 and they have their own films... with sequels. Red Skull is NOT a "weaksauce" villain, and is responsible for some of the most terrible war crimes in the Marvel Universe. I stopped reading your piece after the Red Skull bit, because why should I
After visiting this site for 5 years, I've finally signed up to comment on this "article". Captain America is NOT a "second tier" hero, he's actually one of Marvel's top three(Cap, Spidey, and Wolverine). He's more popular than Iron Man or the F4 and they have their own films... with sequels. Red Skull is NOT a "weaksauce" villain, and is responsible for some of the most terrible war crimes in the Marvel Universe. I stopped reading your piece after the Red Skull bit, because why should I give the courtesy of reading your work, when you don't give the same to the source material? J.A. Hamilton, I have lost all respect for you. Next time, please do your job and be a decent journalist.
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3:06PM on 03/23/2010
What hype machine?

And before Iron Man came out people were saying he was only a second rate character as well. Look what happened. Red Skull, weaksauce? Have to majorly disagree there.
What hype machine?

And before Iron Man came out people were saying he was only a second rate character as well. Look what happened. Red Skull, weaksauce? Have to majorly disagree there.
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2:07PM on 03/23/2010
I don't really care who plays Captain America as long as they look the part, but the WW2 arc is kinda lame and so is a man with a sheild going up against nazis, but I guess we'll see what happens.
I don't really care who plays Captain America as long as they look the part, but the WW2 arc is kinda lame and so is a man with a sheild going up against nazis, but I guess we'll see what happens.
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2:02PM on 03/23/2010

If you ask me...

The Cap America story should just be part of a compilation of "animes" that set up the background for the Avengers... similar to what they did with the ANIMATRIX...
The Cap America story should just be part of a compilation of "animes" that set up the background for the Avengers... similar to what they did with the ANIMATRIX...
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2:08PM on 03/23/2010
Umm, they kinda did that already with ULTIMATE AVENGERS. Way to be up with the times.
Umm, they kinda did that already with ULTIMATE AVENGERS. Way to be up with the times.
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2:01PM on 03/23/2010
It's nice to see someone stating their true opinion (risky as it may be) rather than kissing loads of ass like most people do in this situation. People should think about that before cutting you up as you are entitled to your opinion and always do a good job of explaining your point of view.
It's nice to see someone stating their true opinion (risky as it may be) rather than kissing loads of ass like most people do in this situation. People should think about that before cutting you up as you are entitled to your opinion and always do a good job of explaining your point of view.
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1:55PM on 03/23/2010
What people are forgetting here is that yes, Cap is an influencial and special character in the comics, but when it comes right down to it, he could look rather flawed on the big screen. I'd still go see the movie, but I can't disagree with what you've said.
What people are forgetting here is that yes, Cap is an influencial and special character in the comics, but when it comes right down to it, he could look rather flawed on the big screen. I'd still go see the movie, but I can't disagree with what you've said.
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1:51PM on 03/23/2010
Agreed. If this movie had come out among the first wave of super hero flicks I wouldn't have agreed with you, but to do it now does feel like a money grab and a nudge towards an Avengers movie.
Agreed. If this movie had come out among the first wave of super hero flicks I wouldn't have agreed with you, but to do it now does feel like a money grab and a nudge towards an Avengers movie.
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1:45PM on 03/23/2010
You're right about Cap not being the best thing for theaters, the concept alone, like you said, it iffy at best. I don't think some of these people are truly seeing your point, but you do make a good one.
You're right about Cap not being the best thing for theaters, the concept alone, like you said, it iffy at best. I don't think some of these people are truly seeing your point, but you do make a good one.
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1:42PM on 03/23/2010

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the hype train is not doing this to the movie... the movie is doing it. and can't agree with you enough on he's a second tier hero...
the hype train is not doing this to the movie... the movie is doing it. and can't agree with you enough on he's a second tier hero...
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12:28PM on 03/23/2010
In what realm of reality if Captain America a weak character. Do you know of any other super hero characters who's death was actually covered in major newspapers. And the World War 2 aspect of his origin amazing and makes for a far more interesting backdrop. I'd also like to know why this guy is complaining about this like it's a typical Hollywood decision. This is Marval Studios, the creators, who are producing these films. After the Hollywood studios burned through all the major
In what realm of reality if Captain America a weak character. Do you know of any other super hero characters who's death was actually covered in major newspapers. And the World War 2 aspect of his origin amazing and makes for a far more interesting backdrop. I'd also like to know why this guy is complaining about this like it's a typical Hollywood decision. This is Marval Studios, the creators, who are producing these films. After the Hollywood studios burned through all the major characters from the Marvel universe and screwed them up royally, Marvel took a second rate character, gave him to JF and made the best superhero flick in years while completely redeeming that God-awful Hulk movie. Not to mention that in these ultra super patriotic times, what better character to get the general movie-goer base out than Captain AMERICA. I don't even know why this is even a debate.
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1:56PM on 03/23/2010
He called Red Skull weak, not Captain America.
He called Red Skull weak, not Captain America.
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11:59AM on 03/23/2010
Some might also consider Green Lantern a second tier hero, perhaps Thor as well. But I'm eager to see how they all play out.

Regarding Evans being the 'wiseguy'. Ryan Reynolds is also known for being the 'smartass' guy, and yet he was widely accepted for the role of GL.
Some might also consider Green Lantern a second tier hero, perhaps Thor as well. But I'm eager to see how they all play out.

Regarding Evans being the 'wiseguy'. Ryan Reynolds is also known for being the 'smartass' guy, and yet he was widely accepted for the role of GL.
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11:46AM on 03/23/2010
Spoken like a true idiot with no respect for the source material, Hamilton. Great Job.
Spoken like a true idiot with no respect for the source material, Hamilton. Great Job.
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2:02PM on 03/23/2010
Respect for the source material? Who EVER respects the source material these days?
Respect for the source material? Who EVER respects the source material these days?
2:09PM on 03/23/2010
Way to respect someone's opinion numbnuts.
Way to respect someone's opinion numbnuts.
7:34PM on 03/23/2010
When any fan mentions a long standing villain as weak (Dr. Doom is lame), you know the person is practically a geek poser.
When any fan mentions a long standing villain as weak (Dr. Doom is lame), you know the person is practically a geek poser.
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11:25AM on 03/23/2010

Maybe I'm wrong . . . but . .

Why do all the comic book movies have to be tamed by the rule of "reality?" I'm ready for a comic book movie that goes against ALL reality, has a good story, and is entertaining to watch. Yes, "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight" worked well for the "as real as we can get it" aspect, but all comic book movies do not need to follow that same formula. "X-men 2" would be a great movie to study in order to acheive what most of the audience wants to see.
Why do all the comic book movies have to be tamed by the rule of "reality?" I'm ready for a comic book movie that goes against ALL reality, has a good story, and is entertaining to watch. Yes, "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight" worked well for the "as real as we can get it" aspect, but all comic book movies do not need to follow that same formula. "X-men 2" would be a great movie to study in order to acheive what most of the audience wants to see.
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11:45AM on 03/23/2010
Get ready for Green Lantern. Per the animated origin story -- First Flight, I think -- it's gonna be trippy as sheeeeiiiiit.
Get ready for Green Lantern. Per the animated origin story -- First Flight, I think -- it's gonna be trippy as sheeeeiiiiit.
12:58PM on 03/23/2010
Thank god someone shares my POV. Comic books aren't based in reality, and neither should their movies be. If the moviegoing public is too dense to suspend a little disbelief, then fuck 'em.
Thank god someone shares my POV. Comic books aren't based in reality, and neither should their movies be. If the moviegoing public is too dense to suspend a little disbelief, then fuck 'em.
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11:22AM on 03/23/2010
Is there a lot of hype surrounding this movie? All the articles on this website just seem to be about the casting, it certainly hasn't reached Snakes on a Plane levels...yet.

Good point about the shield, but setting it in World War II would be pretty good if you ask me, especially if you want that cheese factor reduced.
Is there a lot of hype surrounding this movie? All the articles on this website just seem to be about the casting, it certainly hasn't reached Snakes on a Plane levels...yet.

Good point about the shield, but setting it in World War II would be pretty good if you ask me, especially if you want that cheese factor reduced.
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11:14AM on 03/23/2010
I for one cant wait to see this movie. Evans was the second best pick after Krasinski and I think he will do a fine job. Captain America is one of the most popular superheroes in comic book history and he deserves his own movie(s). I really hope the movie takes place in WW2 and the ending is him being frozen in the ocean. I think it would be really cool to see him fight in a war or on the battlefield against Nazi's. I think we will all be amazed when we finally see footage of this thing.
I for one cant wait to see this movie. Evans was the second best pick after Krasinski and I think he will do a fine job. Captain America is one of the most popular superheroes in comic book history and he deserves his own movie(s). I really hope the movie takes place in WW2 and the ending is him being frozen in the ocean. I think it would be really cool to see him fight in a war or on the battlefield against Nazi's. I think we will all be amazed when we finally see footage of this thing.
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11:14AM on 03/23/2010

FART

who cares, predators is july 9th
who cares, predators is july 9th
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1:57PM on 03/23/2010
Amen to that brother!
Amen to that brother!
1:58PM on 03/23/2010
Amen to that brother!
Amen to that brother!
10:54AM on 03/23/2010
Hey, nerds, get ready to push up your glasses and give me some thumbs down. As much as it's being hyped Captain America will be crap because he is a weak character. Weaker than the ultimate goody two shoes Superman. Most comic book heroes are two dimensional because, they ARE two dimensional. Batman Begins and Dark Knight are awesome because they bring something fresh and inventive and creative to the table. Ditto for X-Men 2, Watchmen, Superman 2, Blade 1 and possibly 2, and V for
Hey, nerds, get ready to push up your glasses and give me some thumbs down. As much as it's being hyped Captain America will be crap because he is a weak character. Weaker than the ultimate goody two shoes Superman. Most comic book heroes are two dimensional because, they ARE two dimensional. Batman Begins and Dark Knight are awesome because they bring something fresh and inventive and creative to the table. Ditto for X-Men 2, Watchmen, Superman 2, Blade 1 and possibly 2, and V for Vendetta. Most other comic book movies are vanilla hollywood cookie cutter crap fests including FF, Daredevil, Punisher(s) (the easiest character to pull off), Ghost Rider, Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, X-Men 1 & 3, Blade 3, most superman movies, and Spider-Man.
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11:49AM on 03/23/2010
Even though I think you're an ass-hat, I'll give you thumbs up just so you don't get a misguided sense of self-righteousness for being such a non-conformist rebel. Good for you, scamp.
Even though I think you're an ass-hat, I'll give you thumbs up just so you don't get a misguided sense of self-righteousness for being such a non-conformist rebel. Good for you, scamp.
10:51AM on 03/23/2010
If any superhero deserves a great flick it's Cap. Just because the hero isn't as popular as Spidey or Batman doesn't mean they aren't interesting. There is a "hype" behind the Cap news b/c we actually care about this hero.
If any superhero deserves a great flick it's Cap. Just because the hero isn't as popular as Spidey or Batman doesn't mean they aren't interesting. There is a "hype" behind the Cap news b/c we actually care about this hero.
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10:27AM on 03/23/2010
There's enough comic book superhero movies out now tbh.
There's enough comic book superhero movies out now tbh.
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10:24AM on 03/23/2010
I'll give this movie the benefit of the doubt. Iron Man surprised the hell out of me. That they could get Ed Norton for Hulk (decent movie) surprised me. Thor cast thus far has surprised me. What the fuck ever. If I build anything up for this one, I won't be surprised.

But fuck Sunshine. OKAY flick, but why does EVERYONE need to drop it as some sort of golden fucking proof that Evans is a leader? Or CAN act?

I own the movie and am about to take a dump in my DVD player just so I can
I'll give this movie the benefit of the doubt. Iron Man surprised the hell out of me. That they could get Ed Norton for Hulk (decent movie) surprised me. Thor cast thus far has surprised me. What the fuck ever. If I build anything up for this one, I won't be surprised.

But fuck Sunshine. OKAY flick, but why does EVERYONE need to drop it as some sort of golden fucking proof that Evans is a leader? Or CAN act?

I own the movie and am about to take a dump in my DVD player just so I can never watch the fuckin' thing again.
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1:10PM on 03/23/2010
Um, because Sunshine is an awesome movie (except for the ending) and Evans did show leadership qualities and acting range and ability? But yeah, go take a dump in your dvd player, sounds about right.
Um, because Sunshine is an awesome movie (except for the ending) and Evans did show leadership qualities and acting range and ability? But yeah, go take a dump in your dvd player, sounds about right.
10:22AM on 03/23/2010

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11:51AM on 03/23/2010
Maybe your "writers" should fully develop their half-witted ideas before they post them for all of the world to see.
Maybe your "writers" should fully develop their half-witted ideas before they post them for all of the world to see.
7:38PM on 03/23/2010
It's constructive to tell someone they don't know what the hell they are talking about.
It's constructive to tell someone they don't know what the hell they are talking about.
9:58AM on 03/23/2010

J.A., I HATE to sound like a jerk, but...

What you've just said... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point, in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber, for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
What you've just said... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point, in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber, for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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10:40AM on 03/23/2010
Wow...so, he can't ramble uselessly, but you can?

The article has a logic to it. Disagree without being disagreeable.
Wow...so, he can't ramble uselessly, but you can?

The article has a logic to it. Disagree without being disagreeable.
12:02PM on 03/23/2010
Dude, he was quoting Billy Madison
Dude, he was quoting Billy Madison
2:03PM on 03/23/2010
And what you've said show's how fucking unoriginal and dumb you are sir, as you clearly can't even come up with your own shoot down and instead steal one from a movie. You don't sound like a jerk, just a dumbass.
And what you've said show's how fucking unoriginal and dumb you are sir, as you clearly can't even come up with your own shoot down and instead steal one from a movie. You don't sound like a jerk, just a dumbass.
9:55AM on 03/23/2010
you obviously don't know much about The Red Skull.
you obviously don't know much about The Red Skull.
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9:33AM on 03/23/2010
captain america vs the red skull + tons of nazis = awesome greatness.
i wanna see a series of these flicks.
captain america vs the red skull + tons of nazis = awesome greatness.
i wanna see a series of these flicks.
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9:33AM on 03/23/2010

What Part Of A Boomerang Shielf Doesn't Make Sense?

And what part of Captain America kicking Nazi ass doesn't appeal to you?
And what part of Captain America kicking Nazi ass doesn't appeal to you?
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10:38AM on 03/23/2010
Throw a shield. With any velocity, made of any material and without its own flight engine. Simple physics. It will not boomerang around to multiple targets and return to sender. If it hits anything squishy, like a human being, if will either cut them in half, or the squishy thing will absorb the energy and the shield will fall.

If it hits anything softer than itself (isn't the shield "Vibranium", and isn't that pretty hard and rare?) then there will be a huge amount of energy
Throw a shield. With any velocity, made of any material and without its own flight engine. Simple physics. It will not boomerang around to multiple targets and return to sender. If it hits anything squishy, like a human being, if will either cut them in half, or the squishy thing will absorb the energy and the shield will fall.

If it hits anything softer than itself (isn't the shield "Vibranium", and isn't that pretty hard and rare?) then there will be a huge amount of energy absorption by the softer object (including, say, steel or titanium). It just doesn't work.

Note that the "vibration absorbing" qualities of "vibranium" only apply to the shield itself. When the shield strikes something NOT made of vibranium, that something should flex, bend, break etc. It's the transferrence of kinetic energy from the shield to the thing struck. If someone is making the argument that vibranium prevents the transferrence of that kinetic energy, then nobody would take any damage from the shield striking them.
12:04PM on 03/23/2010
ooohhh my god. We don't need a physics lesson, it's a joke.
ooohhh my god. We don't need a physics lesson, it's a joke.
9:08AM on 03/23/2010

Tight article this time

You make some good points. I don't see the suit, the wings, or the shield looking good or being taken seriously unless they have some geniuses who can bring Cap Am in to the modern film age and still be looked at as a serious hero worthy of saving America.

Meanwhile I still don't buy Evans as Cap Am. I wanted someone distinguished, experienced, someone who looked like he'd been on the battlefield more than others, not some lightweight. Shame.
You make some good points. I don't see the suit, the wings, or the shield looking good or being taken seriously unless they have some geniuses who can bring Cap Am in to the modern film age and still be looked at as a serious hero worthy of saving America.

Meanwhile I still don't buy Evans as Cap Am. I wanted someone distinguished, experienced, someone who looked like he'd been on the battlefield more than others, not some lightweight. Shame.
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8:59AM on 03/23/2010
I see some truth in this article though it seems a bit biased towards some of the newer "hipper" Marvel characters, but one thing I will defend is the casting of Chris Evans. Go watch Sunshine again and tell me he can't play Captain America... though they might be annoying and try to work the sarcasm in *gulp*
I see some truth in this article though it seems a bit biased towards some of the newer "hipper" Marvel characters, but one thing I will defend is the casting of Chris Evans. Go watch Sunshine again and tell me he can't play Captain America... though they might be annoying and try to work the sarcasm in *gulp*
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8:52AM on 03/23/2010
Eh...not a whole lot I can agree with in this one. Red Skull is one of the better villains in the Marvel U and how do you 'dislike' Cap's involvement in WWII? I for one hope the bulk of the first movie takes place during the war, with the very ending being him being thrown off a missile and into the ocean.
Eh...not a whole lot I can agree with in this one. Red Skull is one of the better villains in the Marvel U and how do you 'dislike' Cap's involvement in WWII? I for one hope the bulk of the first movie takes place during the war, with the very ending being him being thrown off a missile and into the ocean.
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8:39AM on 03/23/2010
Where can I buy me some 'Weaksauce'?
Where can I buy me some 'Weaksauce'?
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8:24AM on 03/23/2010
I agree the Red Skull is one of Marvel's best villains along with Dr. Doom, Loki,Magneto, and probably the Green Goblin. I dont see the need to be pessimistic about the movie now that we have our captain signed and ready
I agree the Red Skull is one of Marvel's best villains along with Dr. Doom, Loki,Magneto, and probably the Green Goblin. I dont see the need to be pessimistic about the movie now that we have our captain signed and ready
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7:47AM on 03/23/2010
J.A Hamilton, you are wrong and dumb sir. The coolest part of Captain America is the world war 2 aspect. The sequels wonīt be as cool cause theyīll be in present time like everything else.. And Red Skull is not "weaksauce".. and Tanning Chatum is not ok
J.A Hamilton, you are wrong and dumb sir. The coolest part of Captain America is the world war 2 aspect. The sequels wonīt be as cool cause theyīll be in present time like everything else.. And Red Skull is not "weaksauce".. and Tanning Chatum is not ok
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7:45AM on 03/23/2010
Typically I enjoy (and agree) with a lot of the points brought up in this column. But this subject....no. Red Skull is AWESOME, and the only way to make Cap work is to do the movie as a World War 2 period piece. How many Cap comics have you read sir?
Typically I enjoy (and agree) with a lot of the points brought up in this column. But this subject....no. Red Skull is AWESOME, and the only way to make Cap work is to do the movie as a World War 2 period piece. How many Cap comics have you read sir?
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7:39AM on 03/23/2010

"Red Skull is a weaksauce villain" WTF?

I hate reading bonehead comments like this genre sight articles? You read any real Captain America comics outside of frat-boy baiting "killing heroes" crap like Ultimates? The character is one of the longest lasting, best known Marvel Villains! I try to get into this site and read different viewpoints, but when I read stupid commentary like this, makes me realize whats wrong with a lot of the genre is self perceived fans talking out of their ass.
I hate reading bonehead comments like this genre sight articles? You read any real Captain America comics outside of frat-boy baiting "killing heroes" crap like Ultimates? The character is one of the longest lasting, best known Marvel Villains! I try to get into this site and read different viewpoints, but when I read stupid commentary like this, makes me realize whats wrong with a lot of the genre is self perceived fans talking out of their ass.
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7:34AM on 03/23/2010

Compelling article...

I found myself agreeing with many of your points, and realized I had many of these nagging doubts myself.

I don't care HOW good you are at hand-to-hand combat, if you look at something like the landing at Normandy, and you put a super-human with a shield in the middle of that, he's gonna be swiss cheese. You can't fend off hundreds of machine guns from multiple angles with a shield. And even if you do, are you gonna go up and punch a guy?

I can hear the Nazi's now: "Just like a stupid
I found myself agreeing with many of your points, and realized I had many of these nagging doubts myself.

I don't care HOW good you are at hand-to-hand combat, if you look at something like the landing at Normandy, and you put a super-human with a shield in the middle of that, he's gonna be swiss cheese. You can't fend off hundreds of machine guns from multiple angles with a shield. And even if you do, are you gonna go up and punch a guy?

I can hear the Nazi's now: "Just like a stupid American...bringing a fist to a gunfight"

The only thing I disagree on is this -- You can't just drop Cap into the Avengers un-introduced. His presence as a leader should be put into context *somewhere* before it can be accepted that a God, the Hulk and an egomaniac will all take orders from him. I can't see that being doable in the intro scenes of the Avengers, but I also don't know that you can make a full length film of Cap without giving him a weapon. (Because a "boomerang shield" is, agreeable, just stupid)
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11:59AM on 03/23/2010
Dude...it's a comic book. No one flies in real life, let's have Superman not fly. There are no spider-people in real life, that's dumb. No Spidey films! Let's not make a film that doesn't resemble anything we see on the way to work each day. That makes for compelling cinema.
Dude...it's a comic book. No one flies in real life, let's have Superman not fly. There are no spider-people in real life, that's dumb. No Spidey films! Let's not make a film that doesn't resemble anything we see on the way to work each day. That makes for compelling cinema.
2:04PM on 03/23/2010
I think NoirMan82 needs to get laid.
I think NoirMan82 needs to get laid.
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