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08.06.2013

The ALIEN universe has been a tricky one. What began with Ridley Scott’s seminal 1979 sci-fi horror film later morphed into James Cameron’s sci-fi action flick, ALIENS, which has become a well-regarded classic since its debut. Unfortunately, the sequels that followed never tapped into either the horror of the original or the energy of the sequel, leaving us with the misguided ALIEN 3 and ALIEN: RESURRECTION (and I’m not even getting into the AVP films).  In all the years after seeing Cameron’s ALIENS it has been my hope that we would one day see a proper follow-up to one of the best sci-fi films ever made, complete with returning characters, themes, atmosphere, and action, rather than the melting pot of oddities that we’ve been served.

But, is it too late for a proper sequel to ALIENS?

My answer: Not yet. But, we’re getting close. In their struggle to grasp just what the hell to do with many of their franchises, Fox has fumbled with the direction to take their ALIEN franchise, never quite finding footing. The solution for this is simple: You don’t need to fix something that isn’t broken. They’ve treated each entry in the ALIEN franchise post ALIENS almost as a soft reboot, which sours the groundwork laid beforehand, killing off key characters in a credit sequence (I’m looking at you, ALIEN 3!) and “resurrecting” Ripley (the “glue” of the ALIEN franchise, as played by Sigourney Weaver) as some weird alien/human hybrid, which served as the final nail in the coffin for the standalone franchise.

While Hollywood dropped the ball on the characters established in the first two ALIEN films, the comic book and publishing industry picked it up, continuing the adventures of not only Ripley, but of her stowaway “daughter” Newt and Colonial Marine Corporal Hicks (played by Michael Biehn in ALIENS). The comic book series Alien: Earth War picked up with the events post ALIENS in a manner that we all expected to see in a live-action sequel; Ripley awakens from hypersleep along with Newt and Hicks, only to face a battle with the Xenomorphs on her home turf: Earth.

Nope. What we got was ALIEN 3, which was basically a remake of ALIEN, and then ALIEN: RESURRECTION, which bares almost no resemblance to anything in the franchise. Since that time, there have been two B-movie incarnations of the xenomorphs in the AVP franchise, neither of which are a blip on the radar of awesome that was the first two films and feature a slew of worthless canon fodder characters that did nothing to get folks to reinvest in the franchise, changing it from a golden goose to a horse that needs to be put to pasture.

Can the franchise be reignited? Based on the box office receipts of the last few ALIEN films, not really. However, based on audience interest in the xenomorphs, not to mention the characters of Ripley, Newt, and Hicks, I think it’s possible. The first thing to be done is to ignore ALIEN 3 and ALIEN: RESURRECTION. They were bad dreams had during hypersleep. End of story. We pick up many years after ALIENS, where Ripley is a high-level officer, Newt is a grown woman, possibly in the military, and Hicks is a grizzled Colonial Marine commander, with each of them preparing to deal with a xenomorph invasion on Earth. Bring in a director with vision, someone like Neill Blomkamp, Duncan Jones, or even Guillermo Del Toro. Better yet, use the Marvel method and choose someone out of the box that simply grasps the concept of the characters and give them the best damn crew money can buy. Let them develop and see the franchise flourish as a result.

In 2012, Ridley Scott ventured back to the franchise in a roundabout way with PROMETHEUS, which I rather enjoyed and also believe should continue. However, it can easily coexist with a continued ALIEN franchise as well, which could (stay with me now) eventually merge together. Why not have Shaw and David (the surviving characters from PROMETHEUS) return to Earth after confronting the Engineers, just as the Alien invasion is underway, potentially with a means of defeating the xenomorphs and bridging the two franchises together. Sound insane? Maybe in 1986. With the new “crossover” method being shown to work exceptionally well in the comic book genre, why not with the sci-fi genre? It’s an idea ripe for exploration.

The key here is continuing a franchise with characters we actually care about, even longed to see again, while furthering a franchise in a consistent and respectable way. Some may feel that the films should just be left alone and admired for what they are and I can respect that. However, if the desire to make more films in the ALIEN franchise arises, I think that we are due a proper sequel with the characters we came to love in ALIENS, rather than another blind entry with a flavor-of-the-month cast and crew. 

Sigourney Weaver and Michael Biehn aren’t getting any younger, but they’re still up to task for one last jaunt in a future full of xenomorphs and there’s quite a few female actresses who can pick up the mantle of a grown Newt. The aliens of ALIEN and ALIENS were never the stars of those films. It was always about the characters and the actors who portrayed them. If the franchise is ever awoken from its hypersleep and given another go, it’s my hope that the studio will recognize that and proceed accordingly.

What would you rather see happen with the Aliens franchise: A sequel to Aliens with the original characters, another chapter in the franchise with new characters, or a complete reboot of the whole thing?

All that hard work for nothing. Thanks, ALIEN 3!

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Extra Tidbit: Brad Bird summed up the ending of Alien 3 based on a conversation with Simon Pegg during MI4, which ultimately altered the ending of that film, saying, "Simon Pegg mentioned that it was kind of like the feeling that you had about Aliens after seeing Alien 3, where she goes through unbelievable hell to save a couple of people, and then both of them died before the third movie." And so, the "Alien 3 effect" is born.
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4:29PM on 10/30/2013
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9:55AM on 08/07/2013

Alien 5 project ALIEN PLANET

You should totally check out my ALIEN 5 screenplay ALIEN PLANET that I wrote a few years ago. It got pretty great reviews in the fan community, but would need a lot of revising if made into a proper feature... [link]
You should totally check out my ALIEN 5 screenplay ALIEN PLANET that I wrote a few years ago. It got pretty great reviews in the fan community, but would need a lot of revising if made into a proper feature... [link]
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5:54AM on 08/07/2013

Ok, this is old-school, nostalgic fanboy logic talking...but if

...the right people can get the original stars (assuming) & a proper story for a true sequel to "Return Of The Jedi" going...

...Then they can sure as shit can get an awesome (albeit, ret-conned) sequel to "Aliens" to a greenlight as well!

P.S.: same thing goes for X2. (but I guess we'll all have to wait for "Days Of Future Past" to see how that pans out.)
...the right people can get the original stars (assuming) & a proper story for a true sequel to "Return Of The Jedi" going...

...Then they can sure as shit can get an awesome (albeit, ret-conned) sequel to "Aliens" to a greenlight as well!

P.S.: same thing goes for X2. (but I guess we'll all have to wait for "Days Of Future Past" to see how that pans out.)
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10:03PM on 08/06/2013

I've never forgiven Fincher for Alien 3.

You have Cameron's GLORIOUS Aliens and then what do you do with the third installment? Shit all over the last movie in the span of five minutes? They should just act like Alien 3 and Resurrection didn't happen and move forward from there.
You have Cameron's GLORIOUS Aliens and then what do you do with the third installment? Shit all over the last movie in the span of five minutes? They should just act like Alien 3 and Resurrection didn't happen and move forward from there.
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6:01PM on 08/06/2013

Best news ever...

If this was an official statement. To me there already are only two alien movies, i pretend 3 and 4 never happened, always wanted a proper follow up to aliens with the continuation of the stories of ripley,newt and hicks.
Alien 3 really had nothing to add to the story, felt more as a stand alone movie, and as that it wasnt all that bad but by killing of two main characters so quickly after what they had endured was very disrespectful to the previous movie and took a lot of the charm away from
If this was an official statement. To me there already are only two alien movies, i pretend 3 and 4 never happened, always wanted a proper follow up to aliens with the continuation of the stories of ripley,newt and hicks.
Alien 3 really had nothing to add to the story, felt more as a stand alone movie, and as that it wasnt all that bad but by killing of two main characters so quickly after what they had endured was very disrespectful to the previous movie and took a lot of the charm away from aliens, when you rewatch it there inevitably comes a moment where you think, ah what the hell, they dont survive anyway. People would have accepted it a lot more if they or one of them died in the second or third act of alien 3.

Make it happen, i'm a big fan of michael biehn.
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6:03AM on 08/07/2013
exactly the way I (and many other sci-fi / fantasy fans I know of) feel about X-Men: The Last Stand.
exactly the way I (and many other sci-fi / fantasy fans I know of) feel about X-Men: The Last Stand.
5:36PM on 08/06/2013
Alien 3 was a proper sequel. Yeah the deaths were sad but that's life. Not everything needs a Disney happy ending.
Alien 3 was a proper sequel. Yeah the deaths were sad but that's life. Not everything needs a Disney happy ending.
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3:20PM on 08/06/2013
We got a proper sequel to 'Aliens'. It quite rightly killed off the annoying little kid and the wounded action man, both of whom had served their purpose. Would you have preferred them to be alive and unwell on the planet of the paedo-rapists?
We got a proper sequel to 'Aliens'. It quite rightly killed off the annoying little kid and the wounded action man, both of whom had served their purpose. Would you have preferred them to be alive and unwell on the planet of the paedo-rapists?
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3:11PM on 08/06/2013
I think Ridley Scott said it best when he stated that the Xenomorphs just aren't scary anymore. There's nothing else that anyone can do with them that hasn't already been done. I say let the Prometheus films continue and see where that takes us. Besides, I like Alien 3...
I think Ridley Scott said it best when he stated that the Xenomorphs just aren't scary anymore. There's nothing else that anyone can do with them that hasn't already been done. I say let the Prometheus films continue and see where that takes us. Besides, I like Alien 3...
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4:25PM on 08/06/2013
I disagree that they cant be scary still, they just need to find a serious director and get away from the CG.
I disagree that they cant be scary still, they just need to find a serious director and get away from the CG.
2:05AM on 08/08/2013
Respectfully disagree, Bobafett22, CGI or practical, the Xenos are played out, anything featuring them as the main threat would just be a retread of the first or second film.
Respectfully disagree, Bobafett22, CGI or practical, the Xenos are played out, anything featuring them as the main threat would just be a retread of the first or second film.
2:59PM on 08/06/2013
I really love the proposed plot for Alien 3 and would love to see that movie. However, I absolutely hate when crappy entries are completely ignored in future installments of a series. You can't just wave a magic wand and make us forget. It's too late. The ball has already been dropped. Move on.
I really love the proposed plot for Alien 3 and would love to see that movie. However, I absolutely hate when crappy entries are completely ignored in future installments of a series. You can't just wave a magic wand and make us forget. It's too late. The ball has already been dropped. Move on.
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1:03PM on 08/06/2013
Best C'mon Hollywood in a while! Most of the hate Alien3 received was due to how mean-spirited it is to kill off Hicks and Newt. That proves how well-written and likable these characters are. I like the story of Aliens:Colonial Marines and how it carries on the Aliens canon(Google it if interested) although it's a terrible video game. In sum I'm all for a new Alien3.
Best C'mon Hollywood in a while! Most of the hate Alien3 received was due to how mean-spirited it is to kill off Hicks and Newt. That proves how well-written and likable these characters are. I like the story of Aliens:Colonial Marines and how it carries on the Aliens canon(Google it if interested) although it's a terrible video game. In sum I'm all for a new Alien3.
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1:00PM on 08/06/2013

Alien 3 & resurrection

These two movies were dreams had during the hyper sleep. Ripley's hyper chamber malfunctions for real and causes her to age decades. She is found by the Architects from Prometheus (fill in the rest)
These two movies were dreams had during the hyper sleep. Ripley's hyper chamber malfunctions for real and causes her to age decades. She is found by the Architects from Prometheus (fill in the rest)
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12:54PM on 08/06/2013

Never gonna happen!

I would love to see this happen but it never will. What happened to ALIENS really lies at the feet of Brandywine productions including Walter Hill. They had a script from ERIC RED and Renny Harlin attached, ran them off and then got their Monks in space idea that led to what we got. Alien 3 inexplicably torpedoed any chance of a proper continuation of the ALIENS story line. Then we were supposed to get a PREQUEL and Damon Lindelof decided to flick everyone the bird as he failed to make any
I would love to see this happen but it never will. What happened to ALIENS really lies at the feet of Brandywine productions including Walter Hill. They had a script from ERIC RED and Renny Harlin attached, ran them off and then got their Monks in space idea that led to what we got. Alien 3 inexplicably torpedoed any chance of a proper continuation of the ALIENS story line. Then we were supposed to get a PREQUEL and Damon Lindelof decided to flick everyone the bird as he failed to make any satisfying connection to ALIEN. GAME OVER!!!!
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12:37PM on 08/06/2013
Let sleeping dogs lie and lets get a new sci-fi franchise out here.
Let sleeping dogs lie and lets get a new sci-fi franchise out here.
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12:20PM on 08/06/2013
Game over, man. Game Over!
Game over, man. Game Over!
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12:12PM on 08/06/2013

I'd rather see

A movie about an extra terrestrial threat that is just as good - but original and totally different. Clamoring for "proper sequels" is fine and good, but implicitly goes along with the risk averse lack of trust in new IP that plagues movie studios right now. You mentioned Neill Blomkamp - I'd rather just see him make his own movie about a space conflict between aliens and humans (I think he's good enough to key his District 9 prawns left alone and come up with a new species).
A movie about an extra terrestrial threat that is just as good - but original and totally different. Clamoring for "proper sequels" is fine and good, but implicitly goes along with the risk averse lack of trust in new IP that plagues movie studios right now. You mentioned Neill Blomkamp - I'd rather just see him make his own movie about a space conflict between aliens and humans (I think he's good enough to key his District 9 prawns left alone and come up with a new species).
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12:00PM on 08/06/2013
It needs to involve Ripley meeting Dutch. Cloning, immortality, time travel, whatever - just put Sigourney Weaver and Arnold Schwarzenegger as those iconic characters together in the Alien-verse and magic will happen.
It needs to involve Ripley meeting Dutch. Cloning, immortality, time travel, whatever - just put Sigourney Weaver and Arnold Schwarzenegger as those iconic characters together in the Alien-verse and magic will happen.
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12:17PM on 08/06/2013
This actually sounds cool, the problem being that Ripley lives a long time after Dutch. What if Ripley Was Dutch's daughter?
This actually sounds cool, the problem being that Ripley lives a long time after Dutch. What if Ripley Was Dutch's daughter?
11:59AM on 08/06/2013
I wish I could go back and watch Alien and Aliens again for the first time. Such terrific, iconic films.
I wish I could go back and watch Alien and Aliens again for the first time. Such terrific, iconic films.
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11:49AM on 08/06/2013
I would also have Newt take on Ripleys role as the strong female lead
I would also have Newt take on Ripleys role as the strong female lead
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11:48AM on 08/06/2013

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that lead to Crystal Skulls.
that lead to Crystal Skulls.
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12:20AM on 08/07/2013
You want to drink a lot of vodka?
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11:45AM on 08/06/2013
I would just dismiss 3 and 4 as dream sequences during their hypersleep. Prometheus wasnt as great as people hoped but it has opened doors into future alien films as there were more ships scattered across the universe. This would explain that they would then have to fight the xenomorphs on other planets. Hicks could be brought back as a hard ass general who leads a squad against them. Obviously not as simple as how I have just stated it but it could be along those key lines.
I would just dismiss 3 and 4 as dream sequences during their hypersleep. Prometheus wasnt as great as people hoped but it has opened doors into future alien films as there were more ships scattered across the universe. This would explain that they would then have to fight the xenomorphs on other planets. Hicks could be brought back as a hard ass general who leads a squad against them. Obviously not as simple as how I have just stated it but it could be along those key lines.
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11:38AM on 08/06/2013
A proper sequel to Aliens would be nice, but Alien 3 wasn't all that bad. I really enjoyed it. Especially the directors cut. My only problem with it was the killing off of all if the characters from Aliens in the opening. Sure, they might they have needed to die for the good of the overall story, but they could've lived a bit longer. I do, however, like the direction the comics took it in. As far as what should be next for the franchise? REBOOT. Fix doesn't need to twist & water down the
A proper sequel to Aliens would be nice, but Alien 3 wasn't all that bad. I really enjoyed it. Especially the directors cut. My only problem with it was the killing off of all if the characters from Aliens in the opening. Sure, they might they have needed to die for the good of the overall story, but they could've lived a bit longer. I do, however, like the direction the comics took it in. As far as what should be next for the franchise? REBOOT. Fix doesn't need to twist & water down the storyline any more than has already been done. Get 1 of those visionary directors afore mentioned, my personal hoice would be Del Toro, & start from page 1, scene 1. Give us a new, true to the original take on the story. Maybe down the line it would be easy to tie in Prometheus. 1st, let's get introduced to a new Ripley & crew from the Nostromo followed by a new Hicks, Newt, Hudson, Vasquez, Drake, etc. THEN, maybe we can get a proper Aliens sequel in there & after the new trilogy is complete maybe they can talk tie in.
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11:34AM on 08/06/2013
I'd say follow the movie after Prometheus. However, not with Ripley - she should have a cameo role in the sequel and the movie should have a new hero/heroine. Furthermore, the said new sequel should be along the line of original Alien that is more of a thriller than action.
I'd say follow the movie after Prometheus. However, not with Ripley - she should have a cameo role in the sequel and the movie should have a new hero/heroine. Furthermore, the said new sequel should be along the line of original Alien that is more of a thriller than action.
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11:15AM on 08/06/2013

Don't get why Alien 3 gets all this hate?

I actually really liked it, it brought the franchise back to its roots: claustrophobic horror. The 2nd was good, but was so over the top compared to Alien. I liked that the 3rd one was a dog, the quick 4 legged alien was awesome, and Fincher had a ton of cool POV shots. There's a lot of bad CGI, but a ton of movies from that time period have the same issue. But yeah, resurrection was pretty bad, maybe it's because the director was french but there was a lot of stupid slapstick in the 4th
I actually really liked it, it brought the franchise back to its roots: claustrophobic horror. The 2nd was good, but was so over the top compared to Alien. I liked that the 3rd one was a dog, the quick 4 legged alien was awesome, and Fincher had a ton of cool POV shots. There's a lot of bad CGI, but a ton of movies from that time period have the same issue. But yeah, resurrection was pretty bad, maybe it's because the director was french but there was a lot of stupid slapstick in the 4th one...
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11:08AM on 08/06/2013
I actually enjoyed Prometheus and would love to see at least one sequel to it. I like the idea of bridging the gap and bringing Prometheus and Alien together. Having a war on Earth would be awesome to see.
I actually enjoyed Prometheus and would love to see at least one sequel to it. I like the idea of bridging the gap and bringing Prometheus and Alien together. Having a war on Earth would be awesome to see.
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11:23AM on 08/06/2013
The problem with Prometheus was that Lindelof didn't think much of the audience's intelligence- or his characters for that matter. They made decisions and acted in appropriately for people who were suppose to be the best in their field that Earth had to offer.
The problem with Prometheus was that Lindelof didn't think much of the audience's intelligence- or his characters for that matter. They made decisions and acted in appropriately for people who were suppose to be the best in their field that Earth had to offer.
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11:03AM on 08/06/2013

couple of things....

I know alot of people bag on Alien3, but to be honest, I enjoyed it, atleast the directors cut. It wasnt better than the first two, but i liked it for what it was, especially after seeing the missing scenes. Its Resurrection that was terrible. another thing. I see no reason to hurry up and connect Promethous and the Alien. for me, I already see the connection. But i dont think its a good idea to have Elizabeth and David to return to Earth and find a alien invasion happening. The way I've
I know alot of people bag on Alien3, but to be honest, I enjoyed it, atleast the directors cut. It wasnt better than the first two, but i liked it for what it was, especially after seeing the missing scenes. Its Resurrection that was terrible. another thing. I see no reason to hurry up and connect Promethous and the Alien. for me, I already see the connection. But i dont think its a good idea to have Elizabeth and David to return to Earth and find a alien invasion happening. The way I've always taken these movies are that the general human race dont know about the Xenos existence. to have them show up invading earth screws with the overall continuity of the original series. just somethings i felt like commenting on. I do want to see a new film. where it blends horror and action. i been toying around with a idea i wouldnt mind seeing. I felt that the game Dead Space was a good example how to do a Space action/horror film. these are just opinions.
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10:50AM on 08/06/2013

Oh man.

A very welcomed C'mon Hollywood. Instead of rebooting franchises, Hollywood should remake [proper] sequels. A sequel to Aliens would be phenomenal.

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A very welcomed C'mon Hollywood. Instead of rebooting franchises, Hollywood should remake [proper] sequels. A sequel to Aliens would be phenomenal.

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10:47AM on 08/06/2013
Completely agreed. No more versus other alien species, no prequels, just give us a full on sequel or a separate set of characters, completely!
Completely agreed. No more versus other alien species, no prequels, just give us a full on sequel or a separate set of characters, completely!
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10:52AM on 08/06/2013
I mean, I welcome an AVP film- but it should be cover to cover, beginning to end of this: [link]
I mean, I welcome an AVP film- but it should be cover to cover, beginning to end of this: [link]
4:31PM on 10/30/2013
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