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01.19.2010

...is SPIDER-MAN dead in the water?
by J.A. Hamilton

I know, I know I wrote about SPIDER-MAN not so long ago but unfortunately things change so fast in this business that here we are again. The run of the mill gossip about villains was merely one aspect of the many tribulations surrounding this franchise as SONY tried to move forward with the fourth installment, and albeit the transition was anything but smooth as we’ve all seen by now. But again, these are things I take with a grain of salt as things are not always what they seem, and people love to run with “new” information be it true or false. One critical question still remains; do the fans still possess enough enthusiasm to sit through a “reboot” and if so, to what end?


Dafoe was good, but the Goblin could have been scarier

Being a crazed Spidey fan I was on fire with anticipation for the first film, and people can say what they want about Willem Dafoe’s portrayal of the Norman Osborne (aka Green Goblin) but I liked where they went with it and can’t complain as it was the best it could be for a “safe” PG-13 first run. That said, because of how far they pushed the Goblin character, I have no interest in seeing this duplicated and I’m assuming most of you don’t either. There are more than enough villains in Peter’s arsenal to use and or revamp, so on that note, here’s hoping they man-up and go in a fresh direction on the villain front. Also, a continuation of the overall story with origin flashbacks would be much preferred.


They can't f*ck up Venom twice...can they?

Now story-wise I’m all for James Vanderbilt as a writer, I’m unsure if they’ll keep him at this point or how much (if any) of his SPIDER-MAN 4 and 5 script efforts will be salvaged, but I still feel he’s a solid choice for the job and a smart way to reinvent the wheel as needed. This does lead me to believe that the VENOM story (which SONY has been totally hush, hush about from jump street) will be spliced into this somehow or vice-versa, with the new SPIDER-MAN flick leading into VENOM as a spinoff. SONY was the voice behind Venom being thrown into SPIDER-MAN 3, so rest assured with them back in control and a new tent pole franchise in VENOM on the horizon, we’ll be seeing much more of him.


Maguire did a solid job in my books

I am sorry to see Tobey Maguire go as his portrayal of Peter/Spidey grew on me, and it’s always scary (at first) to hear that our hero is about to get a face lift. The latest rumors of Robert Patterson being up for the role makes me want to shoot myself, so I can only hope and pray that this is some Twi-fan’s wet dream that somehow made it onto the internet. I was always partial to the idea of Jake Gyllenhaal as Peter ever since I first watched DONNIE DARKO, but with the PRINCE OF PERSIA role in his pocket (which will have sequels I assure you) I’m thinking this won’t happen. SONY needs to be very careful here and I would be lying if I said I wasn’t a little worried. Thank the heavens for a new MJ though.


Spidey faces an uphill battle, I hope he pulls through

In retrospect, things ARE a bit more chaotic when it comes to the production of films these days, and how fast rumors, gossip and slipped tidbits are publicized and then scrutinized down to the last letter online. There’s definitely no room for secrets anymore, so as I said before I try to take this all with a grain of salt. Despite all this, I remain an avid SPIDER-MAN fan and hope this doesn’t ruin a fantastic franchise with loads of potential still ripe for the picking. My advice? SONY needs to seal off a boardroom filled with the right people until they can hammer out an intelligent plan of action and competent chain of command. Spidey fans deserve better.
Extra Tidbit: James Cameron was originally in charge of SPIDER-MAN and submitted a script sample that was heavy on the language and even featured a sex scene between Peter and Mary Jane. What I wouldn’t give to see THAT movie.
Source: JoBlo.com

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4:04PM on 01/28/2010
I have a feeling that a reboot might not be the way to go with Spider-Man, but I could be wrong...
I have a feeling that a reboot might not be the way to go with Spider-Man, but I could be wrong...
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2:48AM on 01/20/2010
Nope. Sony thanked Raimi for giving them a highly successful franchise by giving him the boot. We will be sending a message to Hollywood that such a thing is okay if we don't boycott this film.
Nope. Sony thanked Raimi for giving them a highly successful franchise by giving him the boot. We will be sending a message to Hollywood that such a thing is okay if we don't boycott this film.
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11:26PM on 01/19/2010
I agree with ya J.A. all the way mate
I agree with ya J.A. all the way mate
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10:38PM on 01/19/2010

For the fans, or the fanboys?

I don't think Sony gives a rats ass about what real fans want or about telling a good story--they just want butts in seats. If it takes a stunt like shoehorning Venom into the story so be it, they seem to think.

I would just hate to see Spidey devolve into Punisher style rejump shittiness..
I don't think Sony gives a rats ass about what real fans want or about telling a good story--they just want butts in seats. If it takes a stunt like shoehorning Venom into the story so be it, they seem to think.

I would just hate to see Spidey devolve into Punisher style rejump shittiness..
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9:54PM on 01/19/2010
I'm all for more Spider-man if they decide to give us fans what we want for a change. I'm not gonna hold my breath though as that doesn't happen all too often.
I'm all for more Spider-man if they decide to give us fans what we want for a change. I'm not gonna hold my breath though as that doesn't happen all too often.
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9:39PM on 01/19/2010

For the Record

The only Spiderman I know is Tobey Maguire. No other Spiderman or Spiderman movies exists in my book.
The only Spiderman I know is Tobey Maguire. No other Spiderman or Spiderman movies exists in my book.
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9:16PM on 01/19/2010
i was hoping i'd get to see another raimi spider-man done more his way. this kinda pisses me off. but, wil reserve judgment until more info comes about.
i was hoping i'd get to see another raimi spider-man done more his way. this kinda pisses me off. but, wil reserve judgment until more info comes about.
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8:17PM on 01/19/2010
i hated what they did with the green goblin.
i loved dafoe but they should have had the goblin spread out through all 3 flicks with a giant badass showdown in the third. plus the power ranger suit sucked.
and harry the x-games goblin- wtf
i'd be ok with them re-introduced osborne into the storyline for some goblin goodness down the road.
i hated what they did with the green goblin.
i loved dafoe but they should have had the goblin spread out through all 3 flicks with a giant badass showdown in the third. plus the power ranger suit sucked.
and harry the x-games goblin- wtf
i'd be ok with them re-introduced osborne into the storyline for some goblin goodness down the road.
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7:51PM on 01/19/2010

spidey fans do deserve better

i really hope they don't get into this shit too fast because its gonna take a while for everyone to adjust to the fact that sam raimi aint involved
i really hope they don't get into this shit too fast because its gonna take a while for everyone to adjust to the fact that sam raimi aint involved
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3:50PM on 01/19/2010

Time Will Tell

With all the bad ideas to fart from Sony these days... My bet The reboot Spidy will be no different. They will all see that when they make a steaming poo pile of a movie just to make $$$ and completely burn the story for weak publicity gags. They are trying to make something that poses as Spiderman and lacks all the right stuff. This is about just to make it hip, now and wow... lol... and it just plain sux. Us diehard fans get a fubared movie and the franchise flounders as it winds up to fall
With all the bad ideas to fart from Sony these days... My bet The reboot Spidy will be no different. They will all see that when they make a steaming poo pile of a movie just to make $$$ and completely burn the story for weak publicity gags. They are trying to make something that poses as Spiderman and lacks all the right stuff. This is about just to make it hip, now and wow... lol... and it just plain sux. Us diehard fans get a fubared movie and the franchise flounders as it winds up to fall flat on it's face.
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3:17PM on 01/19/2010

Sony SUKS!!! $$$ ovr ART!

T.Maguire was a gud Spidey but he is gettin old(36) So maybe it is time 4new blood, jus respect the property & dont cheat the charecters by packing 2much shit in 1 film(SPIDEY 3)!
T.Maguire was a gud Spidey but he is gettin old(36) So maybe it is time 4new blood, jus respect the property & dont cheat the charecters by packing 2much shit in 1 film(SPIDEY 3)!
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2:13PM on 01/19/2010

HAVE A VERY BAD FEELING

More and more rumors i really dont like, i'm a big spiderman film and sam raimi did a decent job but i wanted someone else to take over but the way it seems to be going sounds already dissapointing. We deserve a wellknown/respected director and a solid and proven cast.
More and more rumors i really dont like, i'm a big spiderman film and sam raimi did a decent job but i wanted someone else to take over but the way it seems to be going sounds already dissapointing. We deserve a wellknown/respected director and a solid and proven cast.
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1:58PM on 01/19/2010
Skip the younger years and just drop in a new guy as if he already had an origin movie and have any villain imaginable available. Hell have him go up against the Punisher after some deal gets made up and bring Jane back
Skip the younger years and just drop in a new guy as if he already had an origin movie and have any villain imaginable available. Hell have him go up against the Punisher after some deal gets made up and bring Jane back
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1:05PM on 01/19/2010

Sry but Tobey was horrible

as Spider Man. He made a decent dopey Peter Parker but give me someone who can actually crack wise during a fight that doesn't sound like the forced 'trying to hard' Spidey that Miguire did.
as Spider Man. He made a decent dopey Peter Parker but give me someone who can actually crack wise during a fight that doesn't sound like the forced 'trying to hard' Spidey that Miguire did.
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12:56PM on 01/19/2010
I can't see Patterson being cast as Parker. The people in charge have to know that the majority audience of Spiderman despises the Twilight series. I know I would refuse to see a Spiderman with Patterson in it, and I imagine Im not alone on that one.
I can't see Patterson being cast as Parker. The people in charge have to know that the majority audience of Spiderman despises the Twilight series. I know I would refuse to see a Spiderman with Patterson in it, and I imagine Im not alone on that one.
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12:55PM on 01/19/2010
This is news of a reboot is horrible and pray they don't put Peter back to square one. There's a fifty-fifty percent chance of it and if they do I don't think people will be pleased.
This is news of a reboot is horrible and pray they don't put Peter back to square one. There's a fifty-fifty percent chance of it and if they do I don't think people will be pleased.
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12:21PM on 01/19/2010

I'm inclined to agree with minderthr33

The Spiderman reboot is the stupidest idea I've ever heard in my 6 years of reading on this site. With Disney in charge of Marvel, it looks like Efron or Pattinson could indeed be the choices.

Your hopes of a 'grittier' Spiderman (also implausible, there is no way an R-rated Spiderman movie is gonna be made and rightly so) will most likely never happen.
The Spiderman reboot is the stupidest idea I've ever heard in my 6 years of reading on this site. With Disney in charge of Marvel, it looks like Efron or Pattinson could indeed be the choices.

Your hopes of a 'grittier' Spiderman (also implausible, there is no way an R-rated Spiderman movie is gonna be made and rightly so) will most likely never happen.
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12:50PM on 01/19/2010
Disney may be in charge of Marvel, but Sony owns to movie rights to Spiderman, so it doesn't really matter who Disney would want to play PP
Disney may be in charge of Marvel, but Sony owns to movie rights to Spiderman, so it doesn't really matter who Disney would want to play PP
1:55PM on 01/19/2010
Exactly Canuck
Exactly Canuck
2:08PM on 01/19/2010
They're in charge for now. That's why Sony is rushing this thing b/c they'll lose the rigths to Marvel if it's not made (similar to the Superman movie deal)
They're in charge for now. That's why Sony is rushing this thing b/c they'll lose the rigths to Marvel if it's not made (similar to the Superman movie deal)
3:16PM on 01/19/2010
After the details described about the reboot, I would rather have Disney take charge than Sony.
After the details described about the reboot, I would rather have Disney take charge than Sony.
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12:10PM on 01/19/2010
The show will go on, but I can't see them bringing in someone like Pattinson and I really hope they don't try to simply reinvent everything we've seen. New content or not interested.
The show will go on, but I can't see them bringing in someone like Pattinson and I really hope they don't try to simply reinvent everything we've seen. New content or not interested.
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12:10PM on 01/19/2010
This movie is going to be retarded. I already know because they are going back to Peter being in high school. They need to just go on to Peter being an adult now and not re-tell his story.
This movie is going to be retarded. I already know because they are going back to Peter being in high school. They need to just go on to Peter being an adult now and not re-tell his story.
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12:11PM on 01/19/2010
Agreed.
Agreed.
11:20AM on 01/19/2010
Sincerely, I can't see them accomplishing anything that wont fail completely, and entirely. At least spidey 3 had humor to go along with it being one of the worst comic book hero films of all time.

But a revamp will probably lead to re-imagined idea's of the initial villains and hero, so we'll have to sit through five more weak ass movies in dire hopes we get to see something truly epic, or entertaining. Maybe someone will have a seizure and the cards will fall on Carnage, but we all know
Sincerely, I can't see them accomplishing anything that wont fail completely, and entirely. At least spidey 3 had humor to go along with it being one of the worst comic book hero films of all time.

But a revamp will probably lead to re-imagined idea's of the initial villains and hero, so we'll have to sit through five more weak ass movies in dire hopes we get to see something truly epic, or entertaining. Maybe someone will have a seizure and the cards will fall on Carnage, but we all know this will never be.

At any rate, my fondest memories of the Spiderman series (R.I.P) Was Franco eating that pie. That was award winning.
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10:11AM on 01/19/2010

Efron for Spider-man!

Disney owns Highschool Muscial. And now Disney owns Marvel. Efron for Spider-man! Don't have a heart attack, only kidding.
But if Sony's movie deal ended and Disney had control, I wouldn't be suprised if Efron was the first choice
Disney owns Highschool Muscial. And now Disney owns Marvel. Efron for Spider-man! Don't have a heart attack, only kidding.
But if Sony's movie deal ended and Disney had control, I wouldn't be suprised if Efron was the first choice
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10:01AM on 01/19/2010

Ugh

Make the film fun and play with our emotions a bit; you can get a little gritty at times because it makes it real. I'm getting tired of Hollywood forcing our heroes to reveal their identity to anyone and everyone in their lives. It's become cliche and it's a cop-out and poor writing in my opinion. Oh and keep Spidey's mask/suit intact through the climax of the movie - his mask doesn't have to be shredded for me to believe he's been through hell and back. And please please puh-leeeze can you
Make the film fun and play with our emotions a bit; you can get a little gritty at times because it makes it real. I'm getting tired of Hollywood forcing our heroes to reveal their identity to anyone and everyone in their lives. It's become cliche and it's a cop-out and poor writing in my opinion. Oh and keep Spidey's mask/suit intact through the climax of the movie - his mask doesn't have to be shredded for me to believe he's been through hell and back. And please please puh-leeeze can you actually cast a HOT MJ that can act and isn't annoying!!!
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10:32AM on 01/19/2010
I agree with you Strand. And the reason they keep revealing the faces of these superheroes is because of the egomaniacal celebrity hacks. I'm sure they have it in their contracts that their face be shown a certain number of times. Otherwise we may forget that it's actually them in the suit I guess. How pathetic.
I agree with you Strand. And the reason they keep revealing the faces of these superheroes is because of the egomaniacal celebrity hacks. I'm sure they have it in their contracts that their face be shown a certain number of times. Otherwise we may forget that it's actually them in the suit I guess. How pathetic.
12:57PM on 01/19/2010
Wow Bob, that's a lot of hostility for a completely speculative and unrealistic scenario that you just groundlessly conjured up.
Wow Bob, that's a lot of hostility for a completely speculative and unrealistic scenario that you just groundlessly conjured up.
9:55AM on 01/19/2010

Ugh

Make the film fun and play with our emotions a bit; you can get a little gritty at times because it makes it real. I'm getting tired of Hollywood forcing our heroes to reveal their identity to anyone and everyone in their lives. It's become cliche and it's a cop-out and poor writing in my opinion. Oh and keep Spidey's mask/suit intact through the climax of the movie - his mask doesn't have to be shredded for me to believe he's been through hell and back. And please please puh-leeeze can you
Make the film fun and play with our emotions a bit; you can get a little gritty at times because it makes it real. I'm getting tired of Hollywood forcing our heroes to reveal their identity to anyone and everyone in their lives. It's become cliche and it's a cop-out and poor writing in my opinion. Oh and keep Spidey's mask/suit intact through the climax of the movie - his mask doesn't have to be shredded for me to believe he's been through hell and back. And please please puh-leeeze can you actually cast a HOT MJ that can act and isn't annoying!!!
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11:26AM on 01/19/2010
The reason why Peter's costume was always torn is because Raimi was implementing the realism of the comics. It's realistic that his costume would get cut or torn in battle. Not to mention Pete's costume getting ripped to shreds was included because War torn Spidey is a very popular look for the character.
The reason why Peter's costume was always torn is because Raimi was implementing the realism of the comics. It's realistic that his costume would get cut or torn in battle. Not to mention Pete's costume getting ripped to shreds was included because War torn Spidey is a very popular look for the character.
9:30AM on 01/19/2010
Sorry the website accidentally posted my comment three times.
Sorry the website accidentally posted my comment three times.
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9:29AM on 01/19/2010
I swear to god if Robert Pattinson gets the role as Peter Parker I'm going to dump this movie altogether. If they want to go back to high school Peter get a male actor who looks like a high schooler and a geek. I may not have loved Maguire as Spidey but he was a convincing schlub who just couldn't catch a break or win the woman. Pattinson will not be a good Peter Parker, he's barely a convincing human being.
I swear to god if Robert Pattinson gets the role as Peter Parker I'm going to dump this movie altogether. If they want to go back to high school Peter get a male actor who looks like a high schooler and a geek. I may not have loved Maguire as Spidey but he was a convincing schlub who just couldn't catch a break or win the woman. Pattinson will not be a good Peter Parker, he's barely a convincing human being.
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9:28AM on 01/19/2010
I swear to god if Robert Pattinson gets the role as Peter Parker I'm going to dump this movie altogether. If they want to go back to high school Peter get a male actor who looks like a high schooler and a geek. I may not have loved Maguire as Spidey but he was a convincing schlub who just couldn't catch a break or win the woman. Pattinson will not be a good Peter Parker, he's barely a convincing human being.
I swear to god if Robert Pattinson gets the role as Peter Parker I'm going to dump this movie altogether. If they want to go back to high school Peter get a male actor who looks like a high schooler and a geek. I may not have loved Maguire as Spidey but he was a convincing schlub who just couldn't catch a break or win the woman. Pattinson will not be a good Peter Parker, he's barely a convincing human being.
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9:14AM on 01/19/2010
Pattinson won't be chose you retards and even if he was, it wouldn't be the end of the world.
Pattinson won't be chose you retards and even if he was, it wouldn't be the end of the world.
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9:29AM on 01/19/2010
But it would be the end of the series.
But it would be the end of the series.
12:57PM on 01/19/2010
Oh yes it would be the end, and can't be that bright for thinking the way you do.
Oh yes it would be the end, and can't be that bright for thinking the way you do.
9:06AM on 01/19/2010
I swear to god if Pattinson ends up playing Spidey I'm going to burn down Sony.
I swear to god if Pattinson ends up playing Spidey I'm going to burn down Sony.
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