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C'mon Hollywood: Make vampires scary again (or stake the genre in the heart)

Aug. 28, 2012by: Paul Shirey

I was watching UNDERWORLD: AWAKENING last week and about 10 minutes in I realized that I just didn’t care anymore.  I didn’t give two f*cks about Selene or the vampire/lycan battle and the notion of vampires in general just annoyed the shit out of me.  And more than that; I wasn’t scared of them in the least.

Having grown up on a bevy of vampire films, many of which rocked the house, from THE LOST BOYS, NEAR DARK, and LET THE RIGHT ONE IN, to INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE, BRAM STOKER’S DRACULA, and BLADE, there have been plenty of solid entries in the vamp genre.  But now vampires have been beaten-like-a-dead-horse and “defanged” thanks to the UNDERWORLD series (which is on it’s way to becoming the RESIDENT EVIL of vampire franchises) and those fangless tweeners in TWILIGHT, not to mention a slew of B-rate crap that has soured the genre, making the undead killers into a stereotypical joke.

As a kid, I remember being frightened of vampires, having seen them in all their monstrous glory in films like THE LOST BOYS, FRIGHT NIGHT, and even the Grace Jones starrer VAMP.  The blood-sucking creatures from those films were portrayed as vicious killers, shadows of the night that inspired terror and fear.  Now, with shows like True Blood, The Vampire Diaries, and movies like the TWILIGHT series and UNDERWORLD, the fear and foreboding of vampires has been replaced with either wimpy emo love stories, over the top action clichés, or as a metaphor for gay rights. 

All I want is to be afraid of vampires again, rather than likening them to their human counterparts.  Granted, I’m a grown-ass man at this stage and the scares I had as a child aren’t the same as they are now, but I’m still a human being who rightfully fears the unknown.   And that’s the problem with today’s vampires; we know them all too well.  We’re hip deep in their business, down to who they ate for breakfast and what they long for in a human mate.  There’s no mystery.  It’s all out on the table.  There’s no fright either, because we become so connected to them that it’s impossible to be afraid anymore.

Say what you will about Freddy or Jason, but those guys can still scare, simply by maintaining their status as violent, murderous beings.  They don’t fall in love and get conflicted.  They kill, methodically, like hunters seeking prey.  And they enjoy it.  A vampire should be every bit as cunning, deadly, and evil.  The tendency to have them drink fake blood or animal blood is just a stupid notion to make us forget they’re vampires until it’s time to show a little gore or glow in the sunlight. 

I get that vampires are complex creatures and I’m not calling for bloodthirsty beasts heading out and just slaying random folks, I’m merely looking for an injection of character and action that makes me fear these undead f*cks, rather than be annoyed with their presence.  The modern day vampire, as portrayed in popular culture, has ironically become “mainstreamed” as it is in TRUE BLOOD.  In doing so, there’s very little to fear, because now they’re everywhere.  They don’t lurk in the shadows anymore, they live next door to us and are sensitive, loving beings that are just misunderstood.  We need to give them equal rights and invite them over for dinner…or, uh, cocktails.  The most compelling moment in TRUE BLOOD (season 3) was when the ancient killer Russell Edgington went on national TV and told the public that vampires just want to kill and eat humans.  It was a moment that let vampires be the vicious killers they are, rather than the poor, misguided creatures just trying to fit in.  It let vampires be the scary monsters they are, if even for a moment.

Ultimately, the problem isn’t that vampires have been made into protagonists, but that they’ve been made into the “good guy.”  UNDERWORLD, TWILIGHT, TRUE BLOOD, THE VAMPIRE DIARIES, etc. have effectively shat on the vampire as a monster and instead made him into the hero.  That can work from time to time (BLADE, DAYBREAKERS), but turning it into the “new rule” has rendered vampires into a joke. 

The solution is simple; make vampires scary.  Nothing says you have to sacrifice character development or strip away their human characteristics, but forgetting the basic truth that they are ungodly creatures of the night that feed on human blood is something that should be placed at the forefront, not hidden from view.  Let them be evil and monstrous, as they truly are, not emotive little wussies or action clichés.  At this point, the most I’d fear from a vampire when I turn out my lights at night is whether they’d try to hit on my wife or steal my hair gel. 

Extra Tidbit: What type of vampire film would you like to see (if any)? I'd like to see a return to the ruthless band of vampires like the original The Lost Boys. Brutal, vicious, scary, and pure evil.
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5:45PM on 01/02/2013
Yes, PLEASE!! I've been saying this for years but no one's listening. Vampire movies used to be creepy. Now vamps all have jobs on Wall Street and live at Melrose Place. I want less Edward Cullen and more Marlow ("30 Days of Night"). Less Sookie and more Severin (Near Dark). Vampires are supposed to be scary monsters not your boyfriend you can take home to meet your parents. It's just become a bad joke over the last 25-30 years ever since The Hunger when it was somehow unofficially
Yes, PLEASE!! I've been saying this for years but no one's listening. Vampire movies used to be creepy. Now vamps all have jobs on Wall Street and live at Melrose Place. I want less Edward Cullen and more Marlow ("30 Days of Night"). Less Sookie and more Severin (Near Dark). Vampires are supposed to be scary monsters not your boyfriend you can take home to meet your parents. It's just become a bad joke over the last 25-30 years ever since The Hunger when it was somehow unofficially decided that vamps were supposed to be cool and hip euro-trash. I mean it was ok as an anomaly of the genre for awhile but in no way should it totally signify it like it does now. Shows like True Blood and Vampire Diaries and movies like Twilight and Underworld have totally weakened the myth and genre.
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3:53PM on 12/07/2012

Vampires Need A Complete Overhaul!

We soooooooo need a new vampire reboot! I remember being actually afraid of vampires once upon a time. Films like Blade, Interview With A Vampire, 30 Days of Night, Fright Night (original and re-make), The Lost Boys, Near Dark; those were the kind of films that made you scared of vampires! Now don't get me wrong i love Angel, Spike, Damon and Stefan as much as the next teen crazed fangirl but i found those characters much more interesting when they were inflicting bloody carnage upon the
We soooooooo need a new vampire reboot! I remember being actually afraid of vampires once upon a time. Films like Blade, Interview With A Vampire, 30 Days of Night, Fright Night (original and re-make), The Lost Boys, Near Dark; those were the kind of films that made you scared of vampires! Now don't get me wrong i love Angel, Spike, Damon and Stefan as much as the next teen crazed fangirl but i found those characters much more interesting when they were inflicting bloody carnage upon the world, ripping throats out with no question or hesitation and not sobbing out there woes like a teenage girl. I'll be the first to admit that i'm a sucker *no pun intended* for a guy with a centuries old past who may or may not be evil but i need my scare quota filled. And it has been seriously lacking the last decade. PLEASE give us back the good films that made you jump in your seat, hide behind your blanket and made you wish you had left the lights on.
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2:45AM on 12/07/2012

Vampires Need A Complete Overhaul!

We soooooooo need a new vampire reboot! I remember being actually afraid of vampires once upon a time. Films like Blade, Interview With A Vampire, 30 Days of Night, Fright Night (original and re-make), The Lost Boys, Near Dark; those were the kind of films that made you scared of vampires! Now don't get me wrong i love Angel, Spike, Damon and Stefan as much as the next teen crazed fangirl but i found those characters much more interesting when they were inflicting bloody carnage upon the
We soooooooo need a new vampire reboot! I remember being actually afraid of vampires once upon a time. Films like Blade, Interview With A Vampire, 30 Days of Night, Fright Night (original and re-make), The Lost Boys, Near Dark; those were the kind of films that made you scared of vampires! Now don't get me wrong i love Angel, Spike, Damon and Stefan as much as the next teen crazed fangirl but i found those characters much more interesting when they were inflicting bloody carnage upon the world, ripping throats out with no question or hesitation and not sobbing out there woes like a teenage girl. I'll be the first to admit that i'm a sucker *no pun intended* for a guy with a centuries old past who may or may not be evil but i need my scare quota filled. And it has been seriously lacking the last decade. PLEASE give us back the good films that made you jump in your seat, hide behind your blanket and made you wish you had left the lights on.
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1:38PM on 09/12/2012

Has no one seen "Stake Land"?

Watch this movie. Post-apocalyptic vampire flick, pretty badass. I was surprised considering the budget, but it was very well done. If you want to watch a good vampire flick that doesn't blow, check it out.
Vampires in Stake Land are more on the primal side, just blood-sucking creatures who have essentially taken over the world, however it has a really nice tone and feel to it, especially if you like post-apocalyptic type films.
Watch this movie. Post-apocalyptic vampire flick, pretty badass. I was surprised considering the budget, but it was very well done. If you want to watch a good vampire flick that doesn't blow, check it out.
Vampires in Stake Land are more on the primal side, just blood-sucking creatures who have essentially taken over the world, however it has a really nice tone and feel to it, especially if you like post-apocalyptic type films.
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11:40PM on 08/30/2012

The Strain

Guillermo Del Toro's Strain triology would kill vampire trend. When those books become a movie vampires will literally be defanged.
Guillermo Del Toro's Strain triology would kill vampire trend. When those books become a movie vampires will literally be defanged.
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5:02AM on 08/29/2012
My favourite type of vampire? Orlok from 'Nosferatu' and Barlow from 'Salem's Lot'. Vampires are supposed to be an allegory for an unclean plague sweeping the land, not an emotional trip through eternity with your forever-youthful beloved by your side. Somebody needs to remind us that being an undead thing that subsists on the blood of the living is a *bad thing* and that having your (supposedly) immortal soul damned for eternity is a *bad thing*. Sunlight shuns you. Life itself shuns you. Gods
My favourite type of vampire? Orlok from 'Nosferatu' and Barlow from 'Salem's Lot'. Vampires are supposed to be an allegory for an unclean plague sweeping the land, not an emotional trip through eternity with your forever-youthful beloved by your side. Somebody needs to remind us that being an undead thing that subsists on the blood of the living is a *bad thing* and that having your (supposedly) immortal soul damned for eternity is a *bad thing*. Sunlight shuns you. Life itself shuns you. Gods shun you. You are lifeless, deathless filth, not an eternally handsome or beautiful example of humanity that can escape your curse by sucking on the occasional cow.
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10:09PM on 08/28/2012

Necroscope

I'm still waiting for a solid adaptation of Brian Lumley's Necroscope series. The vampires in those books are badass.
I'm still waiting for a solid adaptation of Brian Lumley's Necroscope series. The vampires in those books are badass.
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6:05PM on 08/28/2012

Joss Whedon is to blame

I think you can blame the fanboy god Joss Whedon for the neutered vampires we currently have to put up with. He started I all by giving angel a soul on Buffy. Then turned massive badass spike into Buffy's bitch. Isn't it ironic that the man we all worship for firefly and the avengers is responsible for the dud vampire craze we are currently living through.
I think you can blame the fanboy god Joss Whedon for the neutered vampires we currently have to put up with. He started I all by giving angel a soul on Buffy. Then turned massive badass spike into Buffy's bitch. Isn't it ironic that the man we all worship for firefly and the avengers is responsible for the dud vampire craze we are currently living through.
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9:16PM on 08/28/2012
Anne Rice came before Buffy. Also, you mention two vampires (who were shown time and again in flashbacks to have tortured people) out of dozens on the show. Sorry you have a hate-on for Whedon (which is painfully obvious), but it doesn't support your argument at all.
Anne Rice came before Buffy. Also, you mention two vampires (who were shown time and again in flashbacks to have tortured people) out of dozens on the show. Sorry you have a hate-on for Whedon (which is painfully obvious), but it doesn't support your argument at all.
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5:57PM on 08/28/2012
I remember the Vampires from Stephen Kings Salems Lot really creeping me out. The Vamps in Lost Boys and Fright Night were cool but the undead kid flying in the mist outside of the window talking to his little brother to let him in, still gives me the chills.
I remember the Vampires from Stephen Kings Salems Lot really creeping me out. The Vamps in Lost Boys and Fright Night were cool but the undead kid flying in the mist outside of the window talking to his little brother to let him in, still gives me the chills.
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5:54PM on 08/28/2012

Let's be honest

Vampires were never scary. They had good movies, but they were never really freightening. Unless they're somewhat zombiefied or made speechless like in 30 Days of Night, they're just not scary. The simple fact that they're calculating and logical makes them a cool villain, which can be put to good use as shown in Lost Boys and Fright Night, but it renders them as less freightning than other monsters or classsic serial killers. The human aspect to them makes us think that they can be reasoned
Vampires were never scary. They had good movies, but they were never really freightening. Unless they're somewhat zombiefied or made speechless like in 30 Days of Night, they're just not scary. The simple fact that they're calculating and logical makes them a cool villain, which can be put to good use as shown in Lost Boys and Fright Night, but it renders them as less freightning than other monsters or classsic serial killers. The human aspect to them makes us think that they can be reasoned with. Some might say that makes them more unpredictable but be honest, when were you really shitting your pants from fear of Vampires?
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5:52PM on 08/28/2012
I am still waiting a sequel to INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE.. it was dark, sexy, appeal yet scary and dramatic.. it had everything a vampire film should have.. plus the casting was awesome...

How come we never had a Pitt & Cruise team again?!
I am still waiting a sequel to INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE.. it was dark, sexy, appeal yet scary and dramatic.. it had everything a vampire film should have.. plus the casting was awesome...

How come we never had a Pitt & Cruise team again?!
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4:35PM on 08/28/2012
Vampires have been beaten to a bloody plup by hollywood. Its rare to come by a good vampire flick these days but thats what happenes whenever things get too popular. Everyone wants in on it so you get all sorts of interpretations, some good but mostly bad. Same thing is happeneing to zombies and werefolves now. Hollywood needs new monsters.
Vampires have been beaten to a bloody plup by hollywood. Its rare to come by a good vampire flick these days but thats what happenes whenever things get too popular. Everyone wants in on it so you get all sorts of interpretations, some good but mostly bad. Same thing is happeneing to zombies and werefolves now. Hollywood needs new monsters.
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4:05PM on 08/28/2012
I agree. Vampires used to be scary undead ghoulish beasts. Anne Rice killed vampires by making them erotic. Anyone remember Salem's Lot? The old Hammer films?
I agree. Vampires used to be scary undead ghoulish beasts. Anne Rice killed vampires by making them erotic. Anyone remember Salem's Lot? The old Hammer films?
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4:31PM on 08/28/2012
Ann rice didnt make them erotic, vampires have been erotic since one of the first vampire stories "carmilla" back in 1872. Granted it wasnt as erotic but it was still there. Same goes with what Bram Stroker wrote.
Ann rice didnt make them erotic, vampires have been erotic since one of the first vampire stories "carmilla" back in 1872. Granted it wasnt as erotic but it was still there. Same goes with what Bram Stroker wrote.
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3:17PM on 08/28/2012

30 Days of Night

Steve Niles' comic book series had the vampires done right. They were violent, scary, primal creatures of the night. The first movie didn't really convey that as much, and the second direct to dvd movie had a little of the creepiness here and there throughout the movie.They both needed a bigger budget and people both behind and in front of the camera that could sell it better.
Steve Niles' comic book series had the vampires done right. They were violent, scary, primal creatures of the night. The first movie didn't really convey that as much, and the second direct to dvd movie had a little of the creepiness here and there throughout the movie.They both needed a bigger budget and people both behind and in front of the camera that could sell it better.
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3:28PM on 08/28/2012
@DaForce, I am a fan of 30 Days of Night as well. I haven't seen the DTV sequel, but I thought the vamps in the original were pretty damn spooky and more in line with what vampires should be.
@DaForce, I am a fan of 30 Days of Night as well. I haven't seen the DTV sequel, but I thought the vamps in the original were pretty damn spooky and more in line with what vampires should be.
2:41PM on 08/28/2012

AS:VS At Stake: Vampire Solutions

If you guys can wait a bit, distribution is underway to resolve just this issue. Although, it's a dark comedy, too, writing the script in the first place, I took on everything about the vampire mythology and how they've been treated on film the past 10 years...and I think you'll all like what I've done with it. We've yet to have an audience at fests or even the early test screenings that didn't approve.
If you guys can wait a bit, distribution is underway to resolve just this issue. Although, it's a dark comedy, too, writing the script in the first place, I took on everything about the vampire mythology and how they've been treated on film the past 10 years...and I think you'll all like what I've done with it. We've yet to have an audience at fests or even the early test screenings that didn't approve.
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1:09PM on 08/28/2012

yup

The original Fright Night is a great example of this. I am actually lucky enough to know Tom Holland, and have talked to him about the importance of balancing charm with genuine scares. Jerry Dandridge (The Sarandon one) works because he uses his looks and charm to lure you in, but then re reveals the monster within and it is terrifying. When he turns around in Charlie's room and you see his true form, it isn't some sparkling ponce with emo issues - it is a nightmare. Twighlight, among other
The original Fright Night is a great example of this. I am actually lucky enough to know Tom Holland, and have talked to him about the importance of balancing charm with genuine scares. Jerry Dandridge (The Sarandon one) works because he uses his looks and charm to lure you in, but then re reveals the monster within and it is terrifying. When he turns around in Charlie's room and you see his true form, it isn't some sparkling ponce with emo issues - it is a nightmare. Twighlight, among other huge issues, forgets what makes a classic vampire work, from Dracula to David to Jerry Dandridge - the beauty is only a trap. If there is no threat and fear behind it the vampire has been defanged, literally AND figurativly
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1:00PM on 08/28/2012

I want a GODDAMNED LESTAT MOVIE!!

A good one, fuck it, this is my dream, a REALLY damn good one! Like Neil Jordon good, but with the rest of the vampire chronicle series. Say what you will about Ann Rice's vamps but they're classic, gothic, seductive, and horrific! I'd love another splatter house vamp movie like Near Dark or From Dusk Till Dawn, but in the meantime give me a vamp series with some fucking meat on it's bones that has nothing to do with high schoolers or love affairs or any other stupid shit marketed for teenagers
A good one, fuck it, this is my dream, a REALLY damn good one! Like Neil Jordon good, but with the rest of the vampire chronicle series. Say what you will about Ann Rice's vamps but they're classic, gothic, seductive, and horrific! I'd love another splatter house vamp movie like Near Dark or From Dusk Till Dawn, but in the meantime give me a vamp series with some fucking meat on it's bones that has nothing to do with high schoolers or love affairs or any other stupid shit marketed for teenagers and lonely spinsters. DO IT NOW HOLLYWOOD! I COMMAND THEE!!
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12:59PM on 08/28/2012
One thing that really worked in 30 Days Of Night's favour was that it had genuinely vicious vampires. There's plenty of ways you can portray vampires effectively, but at the end of the day they really should be monstrous.
One thing that really worked in 30 Days Of Night's favour was that it had genuinely vicious vampires. There's plenty of ways you can portray vampires effectively, but at the end of the day they really should be monstrous.
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12:36PM on 08/28/2012

Agreed

As much as I actually enjoy TB, it along w/ the pathetic Twilight films has softened the genre. We need to go back to good stuff: The Lost Boys, John Carpenter's Vampires, Let the Right One in, Let Me In, 30 Days of Night, Bram Stoker's Dracula.
The zombie genre is going down the same path as well. I saw Zombieland mentioned, but that at least played on our favorite aspects of the genre - living in an apocalyptic world!! I like The Walking Dead as much as the next fan, but it strays far away
As much as I actually enjoy TB, it along w/ the pathetic Twilight films has softened the genre. We need to go back to good stuff: The Lost Boys, John Carpenter's Vampires, Let the Right One in, Let Me In, 30 Days of Night, Bram Stoker's Dracula.
The zombie genre is going down the same path as well. I saw Zombieland mentioned, but that at least played on our favorite aspects of the genre - living in an apocalyptic world!! I like The Walking Dead as much as the next fan, but it strays far away from its source material. For every 28 Days Later, we get another bad Resident Evil movie - or a troubled World War Z - a film that has blown its budget and has been plagued from the beginning. It's a zombie movie with Brad Pitt!! How can you fuck it up?!?!?!?!
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12:06PM on 08/28/2012

Bring them back.

We need vampires that are charming and seductive while scary and terrifying all in one. This is how Vampires are supposed to be. In Twilight they just used the charming and seductive side "or tried at least" and in Underworld we just get viscous creatures. We need someone like Chris Sarandon in Fright Night , which Collin Farrel also did a good job in my opinion. So yeah as said before, Fright Night, Lost Boys, Bram Strokers....these are the kind of vampire films we need.
We need vampires that are charming and seductive while scary and terrifying all in one. This is how Vampires are supposed to be. In Twilight they just used the charming and seductive side "or tried at least" and in Underworld we just get viscous creatures. We need someone like Chris Sarandon in Fright Night , which Collin Farrel also did a good job in my opinion. So yeah as said before, Fright Night, Lost Boys, Bram Strokers....these are the kind of vampire films we need.
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12:05PM on 08/28/2012
Me personally, I like that there are all different types of Vampires and Vampire movies. It gives them a sense of realism. And when they finally return to form, it will be that much better. You have to get tired of something in order to appreciate it's return. If Vampire culture never evolved, this article would read C'mon Hollywood: Enough With The Scary Vampire Shit, Try Someting New
Me personally, I like that there are all different types of Vampires and Vampire movies. It gives them a sense of realism. And when they finally return to form, it will be that much better. You have to get tired of something in order to appreciate it's return. If Vampire culture never evolved, this article would read C'mon Hollywood: Enough With The Scary Vampire Shit, Try Someting New
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5:58PM on 08/28/2012
I agree with you, Jeff. And I think we've reached the tipping point for the sappy vampire. Time to make them mean again.
I agree with you, Jeff. And I think we've reached the tipping point for the sappy vampire. Time to make them mean again.
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12:04PM on 08/28/2012

Bring them back.

We need vampires that are charming and seductive while scary and terrifying all in one. This is how Vampires are supposed to be. In Twilight they just used the charming and seductive side "or tried at least" and in Underworld we just get viscous creatures. We need someone like Chris Sarandon in Fright Night , which Collin Farrel also did a good job in my opinion. So yeah as said before, Fright Night, Lost Boys, Bram Strokers....these are the kind of vampire films we need.
We need vampires that are charming and seductive while scary and terrifying all in one. This is how Vampires are supposed to be. In Twilight they just used the charming and seductive side "or tried at least" and in Underworld we just get viscous creatures. We need someone like Chris Sarandon in Fright Night , which Collin Farrel also did a good job in my opinion. So yeah as said before, Fright Night, Lost Boys, Bram Strokers....these are the kind of vampire films we need.
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12:06PM on 08/28/2012
Oh and I also agree another Blade movie would be nice, if you can't get Wesley then Michael Jai White please!
Oh and I also agree another Blade movie would be nice, if you can't get Wesley then Michael Jai White please!
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11:46AM on 08/28/2012
The last vampire flick I really loved was Let the Right One In. It's creepy, darkly romantic, and disturbing when you think about what Oskar's future with Eli would be like. Vampire romance done right while still acknowledging that vamps are scary beings.
The last vampire flick I really loved was Let the Right One In. It's creepy, darkly romantic, and disturbing when you think about what Oskar's future with Eli would be like. Vampire romance done right while still acknowledging that vamps are scary beings.
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11:40AM on 08/28/2012
Yeah, like others have said, another Blade movie. Or I would like to see something gritty, like Bram Stoker's Dracula. That movie was sick!
Yeah, like others have said, another Blade movie. Or I would like to see something gritty, like Bram Stoker's Dracula. That movie was sick!
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10:55AM on 08/28/2012
I liked the vamps in 30 days of night, I'd be good with some more of those guys.
The Fright Night remake wasn't actually TOO bad. I think the cleanliness of modern film making took the edge off it though. Vampires looked scarier on older film formats with practical effects - cgi kills the scares.
I liked the vamps in 30 days of night, I'd be good with some more of those guys.
The Fright Night remake wasn't actually TOO bad. I think the cleanliness of modern film making took the edge off it though. Vampires looked scarier on older film formats with practical effects - cgi kills the scares.
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10:50AM on 08/28/2012
I agree with this article! But don't talk shit about my Jessica!! Yummi vampire!!
I agree with this article! But don't talk shit about my Jessica!! Yummi vampire!!
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11:09AM on 08/28/2012
True Blood has always been a vice for me, even though it's totally absurd. I could write an article just on that. And yes, Jessica is delicious.
True Blood has always been a vice for me, even though it's totally absurd. I could write an article just on that. And yes, Jessica is delicious.
10:50AM on 08/28/2012
"I'm a vampire... BITCH PLEASE!"
I really need a laugh today thanks for this!
"I'm a vampire... BITCH PLEASE!"
I really need a laugh today thanks for this!
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10:41AM on 08/28/2012
"I'm a Vampire. Bitch, please!" - Hahaha, priceless. As for the article, I agree with Lopes77 below - a new Blade movie would be a nice start. By Blade, I mean either Blade 1 or Blade 2-type of movies, not Blade: Trinity. Or, a dramatic vampire movie like Interview With A Vampire. It could be a cross between Blade and Interview With A Vampire, actually. That would be great.
"I'm a Vampire. Bitch, please!" - Hahaha, priceless. As for the article, I agree with Lopes77 below - a new Blade movie would be a nice start. By Blade, I mean either Blade 1 or Blade 2-type of movies, not Blade: Trinity. Or, a dramatic vampire movie like Interview With A Vampire. It could be a cross between Blade and Interview With A Vampire, actually. That would be great.
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11:08AM on 08/28/2012
Inteview with Blade...I like it
Inteview with Blade...I like it
11:22AM on 08/28/2012
"Interview With Blade" - Yeah, that's it! Brilliant title!
"Interview With Blade" - Yeah, that's it! Brilliant title!
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10:18AM on 08/28/2012
A new Blade movie of some type please, the first two were awesome.
A new Blade movie of some type please, the first two were awesome.
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10:16AM on 08/28/2012
The protagonist in Interview with a Vampire is a good guy. Didn't that start the whole romanticized image of vampires to begin with? But hey at least you showed off your masculinity with yet another I hate Twilight article. I love how mature every "moviefan" is by constantly moping that teens like Twilight.
The protagonist in Interview with a Vampire is a good guy. Didn't that start the whole romanticized image of vampires to begin with? But hey at least you showed off your masculinity with yet another I hate Twilight article. I love how mature every "moviefan" is by constantly moping that teens like Twilight.
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11:08AM on 08/28/2012
The catalyst for the article was Underworld, not Twilight, as I clearly stated in the first paragraph. Louis is the protagonist of Interview with the Vampire, but he's not the protagonist of the series. That belongs squarely with Lestat, who is a pretty devilish vampire that isn't trying to be pals with humans. They are food, through and through.

It's cool if you dig Twilight. I don't. I think it's shit. But, that's my opinion. However, there's a lot more going on here than just
The catalyst for the article was Underworld, not Twilight, as I clearly stated in the first paragraph. Louis is the protagonist of Interview with the Vampire, but he's not the protagonist of the series. That belongs squarely with Lestat, who is a pretty devilish vampire that isn't trying to be pals with humans. They are food, through and through.

It's cool if you dig Twilight. I don't. I think it's shit. But, that's my opinion. However, there's a lot more going on here than just those emo vamps without fangs, as clearly stated (again) in the article. True Blood (which is essentially Twilight for grown ups), Underworld, The Vampire Diaries, and a host of others are all to blame for taking the "bite" away from vampires.

Okay, now it's time to go flex in the mirror and lock some nerds in their locker.
12:27PM on 08/28/2012
For vampires to be "scary" they have to be antagonists of humans. As soon as you focus your series on vampires themselves they aren't enemies anymore. Even that movie from your childhood Let the right one in doesn't portrait a truly evil vampire. You root for her so you don't mind she kills for food. She even helps the human protagonist with his bully problem, so she becomes some sort of ani-hero.

There have been countless of vampire tales before Underworld, True Blood, Twilight and Vampire
For vampires to be "scary" they have to be antagonists of humans. As soon as you focus your series on vampires themselves they aren't enemies anymore. Even that movie from your childhood Let the right one in doesn't portrait a truly evil vampire. You root for her so you don't mind she kills for food. She even helps the human protagonist with his bully problem, so she becomes some sort of ani-hero.

There have been countless of vampire tales before Underworld, True Blood, Twilight and Vampire Diaries that portrait a vampire as a protagonist and thus not harming humans. Angel from Buffy is hated because he was this goody little two shoes, so people went crazy for Spike. However Spike was neutered himself in season 4 to become more of a good guy. That was way before Underworld came along.
And Buffy the series did a great job pussyfying vampires in general. Stake to the heart? Anything trough the body you mean. A vampire turned to dust if she poked him in the gut with her high heel. Blade also didn't need to aim at the heart, just one bullet in the shoulder and *poof*. You start to think that getting a splinter would mean instant dead to vampires. How are they ever going to rule the world? How can those guys be scary?

When you mention Interview with a vampire, Bram Stoker's Dracula, Twilight, True Blood and Vampire Diaries, I immediately think well those are all liked by women. Maybe that's a part of your problem as well. Women love vampires who don't hunt young boys.

And Underworld Awakening was just an awful movie period. But the whole Underworld series isn't about portraying scary vampires, it's about a feud between two races. It's not meant to be scary. Vampires are supernatural so they can make impossible jumps and punch trough brick walls.
2:12PM on 08/28/2012
Herald, I think there are a few misconceptions here that are making you say the things you are saying. First, protagonists are not always heroes/good guys. A protagonist is just a main character driving the story forward, with the antagonist being the one in the way of the protagonist. That does not mean the protag is good. Example: a criminal main character is an evil protag and the law that hunts him is the good antag. Think Bateman in American Psycho.
Second, I think the point of the
Herald, I think there are a few misconceptions here that are making you say the things you are saying. First, protagonists are not always heroes/good guys. A protagonist is just a main character driving the story forward, with the antagonist being the one in the way of the protagonist. That does not mean the protag is good. Example: a criminal main character is an evil protag and the law that hunts him is the good antag. Think Bateman in American Psycho.
Second, I think the point of the article is that there is a desire to see evil vampires as the above-defined protagonist. If you read the other Anne Rice books, Louis is a guest star or not there at all and Lestat is not generally a nice man. And if you cant make them evil protags, just make them evil again.
If you liked Natural Born Killers or American Psycho, I think you get the gist. Just add fangs.
3:27PM on 08/28/2012
@Herald, I'm a little confused by your response above, but I'll try to navigate here.

I think @ViolentBuddha is on the right track and I concur with what he's said. As I said in the article, I'm not looking for vampires to be mindless beasts (a la PRIEST), but rather evil sons-of-bitches that I can be afraid of. As far as Buffy goes; not a fan. Never have been. I don't credit that series as a good mark for vampires. I saw college girls weep while watching Buffy kill Angel and that
@Herald, I'm a little confused by your response above, but I'll try to navigate here.

I think @ViolentBuddha is on the right track and I concur with what he's said. As I said in the article, I'm not looking for vampires to be mindless beasts (a la PRIEST), but rather evil sons-of-bitches that I can be afraid of. As far as Buffy goes; not a fan. Never have been. I don't credit that series as a good mark for vampires. I saw college girls weep while watching Buffy kill Angel and that sure as shit didn't strike fear into my heart. It made me yearn to change the channel or rearrange my sock drawer.

Again, the issue is that vampires have been rendered into absurdity (even more than they already are by just being, well, vampires). If I watched The Lost Boys or the original Fright Night before going to bed, I would probably have a bit of heebie-jeebies while turning out the lights at night. If I watched Twilight or Underworld, I would either go write in my journal or do a google search for Kate Beckinsale nude, neither of which would have me in fear of being killed by a bloodsucker.
5:46PM on 08/28/2012
@ Violentbuddha thanks for the clear up of [link] And you're absolutely right on everything else you say. But aren't the works of Anne Rice the source of the metrosexual lovable vampire image opposed to evil bloodsucker vampire?

@ Paul thanks for replying even though I'm rambling. You keep using the word scary, but are movie monsters ever scary when you're over 12? That's a whole different discussion so let's not go there. I get your point though , but I never was impressed with vampires to
@ Violentbuddha thanks for the clear up of [link] And you're absolutely right on everything else you say. But aren't the works of Anne Rice the source of the metrosexual lovable vampire image opposed to evil bloodsucker vampire?

@ Paul thanks for replying even though I'm rambling. You keep using the word scary, but are movie monsters ever scary when you're over 12? That's a whole different discussion so let's not go there. I get your point though , but I never was impressed with vampires to begin with (again after I was 12 because Salem's Lot and Fearless Vampire Killers were frightening when I saw them as a kid) and I think it's legit every target audience gets it's own vampire.
6:07PM on 08/28/2012
@Herald, scary monsters are a mixed bag. I've had some pretty exceptionally scary moments in my life that didn't involve monsters, but I think I've come pretty close to the edge. That said, anytime I watch a paranormal flick, the original Predator, Aliens, or Silver Bullet, or even Lost Boys, I find myself with the hair on the back of my neck standing up when it's time to hit the hay. Because the notion of those things existing would be enough to cause a pee pee stain down my leg and onto
@Herald, scary monsters are a mixed bag. I've had some pretty exceptionally scary moments in my life that didn't involve monsters, but I think I've come pretty close to the edge. That said, anytime I watch a paranormal flick, the original Predator, Aliens, or Silver Bullet, or even Lost Boys, I find myself with the hair on the back of my neck standing up when it's time to hit the hay. Because the notion of those things existing would be enough to cause a pee pee stain down my leg and onto the carpet.

After True Blood on Sundays? Meh. Underwold: Awakening? Yawn. Twilight? I quit after the second one. You would have to Clockwork Orange me to watch the sequels. The CIA uses those films instead of waterboarding now. Just as effective.

In response to the Anne Rice stuff...I've read the first four books, stopping after The Tale of The Body Thief and I loved 'em. Queen of the Damned was my favorite and I remember dying to see them turn it into a movie. Then, unfortunately, they did, and it was a travesty. I think what happened was Rice's stuff was borrowed from and cajoled into the "next big thing" which seemed to come out of Stephanie Meyer's high school notebook.

Btw, it's always good to interact with you guys, whether it be a heated debate or just a back and forth. I welcome everyone's comments and am thankful for them.
10:16AM on 08/28/2012
I would love to see someone making a historical, gothic vampire story again, something like Werner Herzog's Nosferatu or Hammer's Dracula films. Vampire movies that are actually scary, and atmospheric. Something that goes to the roots and basics of whole "species" known as vampire.

Something that the whole vampire sub-genre could use. Same way that I would love to see zombie-films go back towards original Night of the Living Dead, instead Zombieland.
I would love to see someone making a historical, gothic vampire story again, something like Werner Herzog's Nosferatu or Hammer's Dracula films. Vampire movies that are actually scary, and atmospheric. Something that goes to the roots and basics of whole "species" known as vampire.

Something that the whole vampire sub-genre could use. Same way that I would love to see zombie-films go back towards original Night of the Living Dead, instead Zombieland.
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