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03.03.2011

David Fincher and producer Scott Rudin were robbed at the Oscars this year. It’s a fact. As good as THE KING’S SPEECH was (and it IS a good, perhaps even excellent film), it just doesn’t quite compare to THE SOCIAL NETWORK. Things looked pretty good for “the Facebook movie” in the wake of the Golden Globes. After all, if an organization as tasteless as the Hollywood Foreign Press can acknowledge THE SOCIAL NETWORK , why wouldn’t the all-important “Academy”?


Perhaps the problem is that people give the Oscar voters too much credit. Why is it that the Oscars are considered the final word in which film is considered the year’s best? Can’t that only be judged in the years following? I’ve been writing off the Oscars ever since CHILDREN OF MEN failed to get a best picture nomination in 2006. Consider some of the biggest Oscar upsets- specifically, the two times Martin Scorsese was robbed. This happened first in 1980, when ORDINARY PEOPLE beat RAGING BULL, and again in 1990 when DANCES WITH WOLVES beat GOODFELLAS. ORDINARY PEOPLE and DANCES WITH WOLVES are both pretty good films, but not half as good as the Scorsese movies.


These types of tremendous oversights are not unique. In 2004, the maudlin and mediocre CRASH beat BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN, and in 2002 CHICAGO won. CHICAGO! Consider these other best picture upsets: HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY beating CITIZEN KANE. FOREST GUMP beating PULP FICTION. The unwatchable GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH beating HIGH NOON, THE QUIET MAN, and SINGIN’ IN THE RAIN!!! As Steven Spielberg himself said at the ceremony Sunday night, “if you’re one of the nine movies that don’t win, you’ll be in the company of THE GRAPES OF WRATH, THE GRADUATE, CITIZEN KANE, and RAGING BULL”. He should know- with him losing best picture for SAVING PRIVATE RYAN to SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE.

But what makes THE SOCIAL NETWORK such a brilliant film, as opposed to the merely excellent KING’S SPEECH. I could go on and on about Jesse Eisenberg’s brilliant lead performance, which is the equal of Colin Firth’ Oscar-winning turn in SPEECH. Perhaps it’s even superior, as isn’t it harder to humanize an unlikable guy as opposed to a charming underdog King, and the kind of stutter that’s an actor’s dream. I could also go on about the brilliant, soon-to-be iconic soundtrack by Atticus Ross and Trent Reznor, but luckily, that actually won in its category, as did Aaron Sorkin’s amazing screenplay.

Perhaps the one area it really got the shaft was in the directing category. Apologies to Tom Hooper, but he’s not quite at Fincher’s level. I think any half-decent director could have made KING’S SPEECH into a winner with that script, and those actors. In Fincher’s case, THE SOCIAL NETWORK could have been a complete disaster. I mean, who really wanted to go see a movie about Facebook? Well, after word got out about how great it was, everyone did.


The funny thing is, I don’t even think THE SOCIAL NETWORK is Fincher’s best movie. For me, it ranks just below FIGHT CLUB (which was far too controversial to even land a nomination in 1999), and perhaps about on par with SE7EN, but they’re such different films, it’s hard to judge. The fact is, of the film's it was nominated with, THE SOCIAL NETWORK was clearly the best (matched only by INCEPTION, which sadly didn't have a chance due to the Academy's long-held bias against action/sci-fi films). Maybe in another year, THE SOCIAL NETWORK wouldn’t have been such a clear-cut winner, but this year- it should have landed the big prize. Sadly, the more obvious sentimentality of THE KING’S SPEECH won out. The beat goes on.

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3:18PM on 03/04/2011

You're right

The King's Speech was right up the Academy's alley, and it was also better than The Social Network, which was right up every hipster critic's alley.
The King's Speech was right up the Academy's alley, and it was also better than The Social Network, which was right up every hipster critic's alley.
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1:02PM on 03/04/2011

Absolutely

It still makes me sick that Oscarbait like The King's Speech have such a good track record. Having slightly disfunctional people crying, meryl streep and period piece dress (which i'm fucking sick of) doesn't make you a good movie.

Social Network was at least 30% better the Speech.
It still makes me sick that Oscarbait like The King's Speech have such a good track record. Having slightly disfunctional people crying, meryl streep and period piece dress (which i'm fucking sick of) doesn't make you a good movie.

Social Network was at least 30% better the Speech.
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9:18AM on 03/04/2011
And what about the best original screenplay?
I mean, how can a true story about a speech therapist be a better story than Inception's?!!!
And what about the best original screenplay?
I mean, how can a true story about a speech therapist be a better story than Inception's?!!!
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6:13AM on 03/04/2011

Disagree

I foundnd King's Speech kinda amazing. Around 9/10. Social Network, while good, didn't have that extra (maybe 7/10 imo) that the Speech had. So I disagree and even though we all have different opinions: Isn't "robbed" a too of a big word to use?
I foundnd King's Speech kinda amazing. Around 9/10. Social Network, while good, didn't have that extra (maybe 7/10 imo) that the Speech had. So I disagree and even though we all have different opinions: Isn't "robbed" a too of a big word to use?
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5:46AM on 03/04/2011

i agree.

i found the 'social network' to be a perfect film.
acting. writing, direction. soundtrack. i was so impressed with how the opening scene pulled me in. fincher is a genius in my opinion. a master craftsman. chris nolan was robbed as well. 'the kings speech' my ass.
i found the 'social network' to be a perfect film.
acting. writing, direction. soundtrack. i was so impressed with how the opening scene pulled me in. fincher is a genius in my opinion. a master craftsman. chris nolan was robbed as well. 'the kings speech' my ass.
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4:59AM on 03/04/2011
You don't really bother, in this article, to give an actual argument as to why The Social Network is the superior film (other than Eisenberg's performance, even though you say it is on about the same level as Firth's). You simply state at the very beginning AS A FACT that it is better. This devolves your "article" into nothing more than an internet fanboy rant. Sorry, man, but this is by far your worst C'mon Hollywood article in quite some time.

Note that I didn't state which film I believe
You don't really bother, in this article, to give an actual argument as to why The Social Network is the superior film (other than Eisenberg's performance, even though you say it is on about the same level as Firth's). You simply state at the very beginning AS A FACT that it is better. This devolves your "article" into nothing more than an internet fanboy rant. Sorry, man, but this is by far your worst C'mon Hollywood article in quite some time.

Note that I didn't state which film I believe is better because that is beside the point. I am pointing out why this article lacks credibility and why it is, quite frankly, very poorly conceived.
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1:40AM on 03/04/2011
I didn't see The King's Speech, but I don't mind The Social Network losing. I loved The Social Network, but I could have never seen it and nothing would be different. Black Swan was my vote for Best Picture, as I genuinely think it was innovative and struck with me an emotional chord. TSN was really any movie about a business venture that tears two friends apart. It was a great one at that, but truth be told, I would probably have been more upset if it won. But, who cares? It's a movie,
I didn't see The King's Speech, but I don't mind The Social Network losing. I loved The Social Network, but I could have never seen it and nothing would be different. Black Swan was my vote for Best Picture, as I genuinely think it was innovative and struck with me an emotional chord. TSN was really any movie about a business venture that tears two friends apart. It was a great one at that, but truth be told, I would probably have been more upset if it won. But, who cares? It's a movie, and if someone else thinks another one was better, even if they are "The Academy", what does it matter? You still like TSN better than TKS, and no one is asking you to deny that.
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12:17AM on 03/04/2011
Though I was happy with all of the films on the ballot (no Avatars or The Blindsides that blatantly don't belong,) The Kings Speech did not deserve the win, and Hooper DEFINITELY didn't deserve the win.

Maybe the stutter will become the new retard?
Though I was happy with all of the films on the ballot (no Avatars or The Blindsides that blatantly don't belong,) The Kings Speech did not deserve the win, and Hooper DEFINITELY didn't deserve the win.

Maybe the stutter will become the new retard?
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11:06PM on 03/03/2011

Sorry, but Social Network wasn't THAT great

It was a Facebook movie......shot like Se7en. WTF? The movie was well acted, well directed, but it was ABOUT FACEBOOK, who FUCKING cares. I'm sure lots of shady things go down in BILLION dollar industries all the time, but we don't need to make movies about all of them. Facebook is "hip" which is why this story was brought to the screen. Sorry, Justin Timberlake sucks too, he's not a good actor, he just gets put into "serious" rolls, and people are blinded by the movies prestige, and look
It was a Facebook movie......shot like Se7en. WTF? The movie was well acted, well directed, but it was ABOUT FACEBOOK, who FUCKING cares. I'm sure lots of shady things go down in BILLION dollar industries all the time, but we don't need to make movies about all of them. Facebook is "hip" which is why this story was brought to the screen. Sorry, Justin Timberlake sucks too, he's not a good actor, he just gets put into "serious" rolls, and people are blinded by the movies prestige, and look past his annoyingly ghey voice.

Again, I liked Social Network, but it wasn't best picture, sorry.
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10:46PM on 03/03/2011

Agreed.

Crash winning best picture is completely Jack Nicholson's fault. He saw Brokeback Mountain on the card and called an audible.
Crash winning best picture is completely Jack Nicholson's fault. He saw Brokeback Mountain on the card and called an audible.
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10:39PM on 03/03/2011

hahahaha

The Social Network fans are the new Dark Knight fanboys who were up in arms about TDK not receiving Best Picture Nomination. Get over it and stop classifying the Social Network as a film that belongs in the same list as Citizen Kane, Goodfellas, Network or Raging Bull. You guys are delusional.
The Social Network fans are the new Dark Knight fanboys who were up in arms about TDK not receiving Best Picture Nomination. Get over it and stop classifying the Social Network as a film that belongs in the same list as Citizen Kane, Goodfellas, Network or Raging Bull. You guys are delusional.
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7:45PM on 03/03/2011
The positive attention this movie has gotten is crazy. It was boring, starred the nerd from NSYNC, and will be long forgotten ten years from now. It's a movie based on something 15 year old girls use to post photos of their weekend! Holy shit
The positive attention this movie has gotten is crazy. It was boring, starred the nerd from NSYNC, and will be long forgotten ten years from now. It's a movie based on something 15 year old girls use to post photos of their weekend! Holy shit
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7:00PM on 03/03/2011
King's Speech was a good movie. I liked it, and I thought Firth was great (although he was so much better last year in A Single Man).

The Social Network is the only movie, with the possible exception of Inception, that I could pop in at any time and watch, and it gets better every time I see it. My favorite movie from last year didn't have a chance for even a nod (Let Me In)... but True Grit and The Social Network were about a tie for my second favorite, and would have loved to see either of
King's Speech was a good movie. I liked it, and I thought Firth was great (although he was so much better last year in A Single Man).

The Social Network is the only movie, with the possible exception of Inception, that I could pop in at any time and watch, and it gets better every time I see it. My favorite movie from last year didn't have a chance for even a nod (Let Me In)... but True Grit and The Social Network were about a tie for my second favorite, and would have loved to see either of those win.
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6:38PM on 03/03/2011
I found it very unsurprising. The King’s Speech is so obviously Oscar bait. I mean really, an [link] about over coming a handicap, nothing else stood a chance.
I found it very unsurprising. The King’s Speech is so obviously Oscar bait. I mean really, an [link] about over coming a handicap, nothing else stood a chance.
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6:12PM on 03/03/2011

Dman straight

I agree 100%. The Social Netrwork is a masterpiece. Inception was the best film of the year but since that was never gonna win The Social Network had to win. It was robbed.
I agree 100%. The Social Netrwork is a masterpiece. Inception was the best film of the year but since that was never gonna win The Social Network had to win. It was robbed.
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5:44PM on 03/03/2011
I agree that it SHOULD have taken it and I was pulling for it, but more importantly, flat out David Fincher SHOULD have won for Best Director. Fincher's snub is far greater in my opinion than Best Picture. I mean if you aren't going to give it to Fincher for TSN, at least give it to Arnofsky.
I agree that it SHOULD have taken it and I was pulling for it, but more importantly, flat out David Fincher SHOULD have won for Best Director. Fincher's snub is far greater in my opinion than Best Picture. I mean if you aren't going to give it to Fincher for TSN, at least give it to Arnofsky.
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5:41PM on 03/03/2011

I disagree

The King's Speech was a fantastic movie. That and The Social Network were both excellent and I would have been happy with either winning. This is nowhere near the extent of the Academy fucking up Saving Private Ryan or Raging Bull or Goodfellas. This is nowhere near as bad. And also, Chris, you knew The King's Speech was going to win. When's the last time a movie won all of those best picture/best director awards in other award ceremonies and then did NOT win the Academy Award? DGA? Globes?
The King's Speech was a fantastic movie. That and The Social Network were both excellent and I would have been happy with either winning. This is nowhere near the extent of the Academy fucking up Saving Private Ryan or Raging Bull or Goodfellas. This is nowhere near as bad. And also, Chris, you knew The King's Speech was going to win. When's the last time a movie won all of those best picture/best director awards in other award ceremonies and then did NOT win the Academy Award? DGA? Globes? BAFTA's? It won everything. It was entirely predictable. And that's how I won my Oscar pool.
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5:27PM on 03/03/2011

Look, I've been saying this for years

The Oscars are rigged beyond belief. Let's face it: Heath Ledger would've never won for his portrayal of The Joker had he not tragically died before the Oscars. That's just the cold hard truth. The Departed was great, one of my favorite movies of all time, but out of all of Scorsese's films, it's clearly not the best. The Oscars gave him the win so they wouldn't tarnish his rep by giving him a Lifetime Achievement Award. Those are reserved for the guys they should have awarded sooner and didn't
The Oscars are rigged beyond belief. Let's face it: Heath Ledger would've never won for his portrayal of The Joker had he not tragically died before the Oscars. That's just the cold hard truth. The Departed was great, one of my favorite movies of all time, but out of all of Scorsese's films, it's clearly not the best. The Oscars gave him the win so they wouldn't tarnish his rep by giving him a Lifetime Achievement Award. Those are reserved for the guys they should have awarded sooner and didn't have the foresight to do so. Let's face it: Happy Feet won for its connection to Global Warming, and The Queen won...okay, I didn't watch that one, but does anyone see where I'm going with this? If I could vote for the Oscars the same way I can vote for the President, I'd be fine. It just doesn't work that way. The system is corrupt. Deal with it.
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5:21PM on 03/03/2011

LOL no

The Social Network is not an important movie, it will not withstand the test of time, it is not about something "important", nor was it anywhere near as fantastic as it has been hyped.

Granted, it's a great movie, wonderfully acted and directed with precision and such craft, but really? It was robbed? The King's Speech was the clear winner all around when it comes to the overall presentation. And it's timeless.

Here's an argument I've made before about The Social Network. If Facebook
The Social Network is not an important movie, it will not withstand the test of time, it is not about something "important", nor was it anywhere near as fantastic as it has been hyped.

Granted, it's a great movie, wonderfully acted and directed with precision and such craft, but really? It was robbed? The King's Speech was the clear winner all around when it comes to the overall presentation. And it's timeless.

Here's an argument I've made before about The Social Network. If Facebook didn't exist and the film was purely a work of fiction, would anyone care about it? As in, if it never happened and the film existed anyway, as just a work of fiction for a film to be made of, would anyone care? The reason everyone is excited about the "subject" is because it's current and in the now. Whether or not it's still a relevant or interesting subject by even 5 years from now is anyone's guess. It's not a major event in history like The King's Speech that was important and significant

Now apply that thinking to 20 years from now. Will anyone look back at The Social Network as some timeless brilliant work that's simply exists as a great standalone film or will generations from now who may never even hear about Facebook need to be aware of what it was and know something about it to appreciate it and understand it? As in, it's signifigance is because we're the generation currently living with it, as opposed to maybe a mere generation from now won't have it because something else will come along. Kind of like how Myspace was the biggest thing in the history of man, and then died, and THEN Facebook rolled in. That's the point I'm making.

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5:33PM on 03/03/2011
I get what you're saying but let's face it: The Social Network works because the quick rise to fame and the corruption of money story has such an appeal to movie viewers. This is not, I REPEAT NOT a comparison to quality by any means, but that's one of the same reasons why Citizen Kane has stood the test of time. We love to see Charles Foster Kane get rich, spend money and realize he's miserable, and in the same vein, we like seeing Jesse Eisenburg be a total douchebag to everyone because he
I get what you're saying but let's face it: The Social Network works because the quick rise to fame and the corruption of money story has such an appeal to movie viewers. This is not, I REPEAT NOT a comparison to quality by any means, but that's one of the same reasons why Citizen Kane has stood the test of time. We love to see Charles Foster Kane get rich, spend money and realize he's miserable, and in the same vein, we like seeing Jesse Eisenburg be a total douchebag to everyone because he invented a more popular knockoff of Myspace. Blam me all you want, there's is legitimacy to what I'm saying.
7:04PM on 03/03/2011
If hollywood were to make a film featruing a fictitous king who battled with a stammer, would anyone care?
If hollywood were to make a film featruing a fictitous king who battled with a stammer, would anyone care?
2:55AM on 03/04/2011
If TV had never been invented, would Network still be a good film?

It's a total nonpoint, you can't divorce film and subject matter like that.

The success of King's Speech proves that subject matter is largely unimportant when it comes to films (would anyone really give a shit about such a privileged man and his first world problems if they hadn't fallen for the manipulative and digestible way it was told?). Similarly, the strength of Social Network lies in the storytelling, not in the fact
If TV had never been invented, would Network still be a good film?

It's a total nonpoint, you can't divorce film and subject matter like that.

The success of King's Speech proves that subject matter is largely unimportant when it comes to films (would anyone really give a shit about such a privileged man and his first world problems if they hadn't fallen for the manipulative and digestible way it was told?). Similarly, the strength of Social Network lies in the storytelling, not in the fact that it documents a current phenomenon.
5:16PM on 03/03/2011
The Social Network wasn't robbed- it clearly won Best Original Score; an award it clearly didn't deserve compared to Hans Zimmer & Inception.
The Social Network wasn't robbed- it clearly won Best Original Score; an award it clearly didn't deserve compared to Hans Zimmer & Inception.
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4:53PM on 03/03/2011

UGH! ....uh-uh.

Academy was right that Social Network was not Best Picture and Academy was wrong King's Speech was not Best Picture. They need to let go of the stereotypes and actually look at entertainment value, beauty, originality, etc. (basically the total package). In a perfect world then the best reviewed film overall would win but year after year i just say UGH!.... uh-uh.
Academy was right that Social Network was not Best Picture and Academy was wrong King's Speech was not Best Picture. They need to let go of the stereotypes and actually look at entertainment value, beauty, originality, etc. (basically the total package). In a perfect world then the best reviewed film overall would win but year after year i just say UGH!.... uh-uh.
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4:35PM on 03/03/2011
The REAL problem here is that the Academy bent over backward to try and seem more in tune with the times. They eschewed a lot of those montages, and were relatively generous in awarding both Inception AND Social Network multiple awards. Christian Bale and Natalie Portman both gave fantastic performances, and both have pretty strong fan-bases outside of these roles. They even had a couple of "hip" young hosts. Which suggest all younger viewers want is to get stoned, but still. And all they had
The REAL problem here is that the Academy bent over backward to try and seem more in tune with the times. They eschewed a lot of those montages, and were relatively generous in awarding both Inception AND Social Network multiple awards. Christian Bale and Natalie Portman both gave fantastic performances, and both have pretty strong fan-bases outside of these roles. They even had a couple of "hip" young hosts. Which suggest all younger viewers want is to get stoned, but still. And all they had to do was award a tie-breaker between director and picture, and give Fincher his Oscar. "The Social Network" tapped into something with the latest generation. But at the last minute the Academy caved and went with their nature, which is to heap Awards upon Harvey Weinstein and his people. Seriously, any time he's in the running, nothing is a sure thing (see "Shakespeare in Love"). I'm not upset with the Academy for "robbing" David Fincher. I'm upset at them for trying to appeal (however poorly) to a younger generation, and then not following through with the movie for a younger generation. Honestly, the degree of difference between the two films' quality is negligible in my mind. They're neither one as good as "Black Swan," but both were more technically well-made, if that makes any sense. I felt the acceptance speeches were better this year than in years past. The hosts sucked by comparison. And the winners were pretty much everyone I thought. I was about 70% on the winners. We all like to play dress-up now and again, but when the night is over, even the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences cannot deny its own nature. And any movie not called "The King's Speech" didn't have a prayer of winning the two most prized awards.
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4:20PM on 03/03/2011

Completely agree

The Social Network was a million times better and more creative than the King's Speech. King's was okay but I won't even think about it in a couple of months, while I plan on watching the SN at least once a year and proudly have it on my DVD shelf. It deserved it all the way this year but the Oscars have disappointed me for years, the only year where they actually got it right recently is when the Departed won.
The Social Network was a million times better and more creative than the King's Speech. King's was okay but I won't even think about it in a couple of months, while I plan on watching the SN at least once a year and proudly have it on my DVD shelf. It deserved it all the way this year but the Oscars have disappointed me for years, the only year where they actually got it right recently is when the Departed won.
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3:57PM on 03/03/2011
I think this is the only "C'mon Hollywood" article that I have disagreed with so much. Forrest Gump winning best picture was an upset? And Brokeback's characters were so undeveloped that I turned it off after about 45 minutes. Upsets... really? And there were a few true "upsets" listed, but 2011's Oscars are not in that same category.

There were a LOT of good movies this year, and to say Social Network was the best is just as "wrong" as saying King's Speech was. For me, Black Swan was
I think this is the only "C'mon Hollywood" article that I have disagreed with so much. Forrest Gump winning best picture was an upset? And Brokeback's characters were so undeveloped that I turned it off after about 45 minutes. Upsets... really? And there were a few true "upsets" listed, but 2011's Oscars are not in that same category.

There were a LOT of good movies this year, and to say Social Network was the best is just as "wrong" as saying King's Speech was. For me, Black Swan was #1. For the next guy it was Inception. For someone else, True Grit or 127 Hours.

But the main point - sure, Dances with Wolves was a silly win, but to compare King's Speech to that is a disservice. It had a great story with great conflict and character arcs. The pacing was brilliant, and the last 30 minutes were intense and built to a climax far more exciting than Network's. And as to Hooper's direction, making a 6" microphone look that imposing is no easy task. But, the whole thing came together beautifully, and yielded outstanding performances BECAUSE of the director (that's how actors usually work).

I get the argument - and there are lots of people who would agree, but to have an article like this calling the win (or lack thereof) an atrocity is just silly.

Besides, Black Swan was better than both of them.
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5:05PM on 03/03/2011
I agree on all points. It's a little silly to claim that The Social Network was better like it's some kind of objective fact.

And my vote also would have gone to Black Swan :-)
I agree on all points. It's a little silly to claim that The Social Network was better like it's some kind of objective fact.

And my vote also would have gone to Black Swan :-)
3:44PM on 03/03/2011

I agree with the premise but

I agree that Social Network should have won and its the movie that will have the biggest legacy and with your point that without Fincher it would have probably been unmemorable. However, some of your points I can't agree with. Children of Men got robbed, and that's the thing that made you give up on the Oscars, seriously? Children of Men is an average movie that people on this site overblow. It should have never been nominated for best movie. If you had said you gave up on the Oscars after
I agree that Social Network should have won and its the movie that will have the biggest legacy and with your point that without Fincher it would have probably been unmemorable. However, some of your points I can't agree with. Children of Men got robbed, and that's the thing that made you give up on the Oscars, seriously? Children of Men is an average movie that people on this site overblow. It should have never been nominated for best movie. If you had said you gave up on the Oscars after Chicago, I'd understand more
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3:43PM on 03/03/2011
couldn't agree with you more. the King's Speech directed itself, while the Social Network was just a tougher project on so many levels. Just another reason not to watch next year (assuming the hosting is as awful as the result for Best Pic)
couldn't agree with you more. the King's Speech directed itself, while the Social Network was just a tougher project on so many levels. Just another reason not to watch next year (assuming the hosting is as awful as the result for Best Pic)
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3:39PM on 03/03/2011
To me either film could have won best picture without me complaining (though I still guessed King's Speech would win in the Oscar poll). But I agree to the fullest that David Fincher was robbed of the win in the Best Director category. He deserved to win over Tom Hooper and any other nominee.
To me either film could have won best picture without me complaining (though I still guessed King's Speech would win in the Oscar poll). But I agree to the fullest that David Fincher was robbed of the win in the Best Director category. He deserved to win over Tom Hooper and any other nominee.
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3:28PM on 03/03/2011
Watched Social network again last night and agree, it is a better film in every way, in fact I would have preferred any of the nominees to win over The king's Speech (it was an alright movie but there were some EXCELLENT nominees.) In the grand scheme of things though Social Network will be remembered over The Kings Speech anyway.
Watched Social network again last night and agree, it is a better film in every way, in fact I would have preferred any of the nominees to win over The king's Speech (it was an alright movie but there were some EXCELLENT nominees.) In the grand scheme of things though Social Network will be remembered over The Kings Speech anyway.
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3:03PM on 03/03/2011
Both were decent movies. I easily would have picked King's Speech over Social Network. When it comes down to it though, Toy Story 3 and Inception are going to be the movies that will stand the test of time. I love the Oscars but I think it is too bias. When you have a movie like Toy Story 3 that happens to be the best reviewed movie of the year by critics and is just about equally loved by the general audience, I don't get how it wouldn't be best picture.
Both were decent movies. I easily would have picked King's Speech over Social Network. When it comes down to it though, Toy Story 3 and Inception are going to be the movies that will stand the test of time. I love the Oscars but I think it is too bias. When you have a movie like Toy Story 3 that happens to be the best reviewed movie of the year by critics and is just about equally loved by the general audience, I don't get how it wouldn't be best picture.
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2:42PM on 03/03/2011
Social Network was my favorite to win. But then I saw the King's Speech and said...this is a better movie, it's almost a shame now that Social Network is going to win Best Picture (judging by all the other award shows)...when I saw King's Speech win I was pleasantly surprised. I love both films. King's Speech was just better.
Social Network was my favorite to win. But then I saw the King's Speech and said...this is a better movie, it's almost a shame now that Social Network is going to win Best Picture (judging by all the other award shows)...when I saw King's Speech win I was pleasantly surprised. I love both films. King's Speech was just better.
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2:29PM on 03/03/2011

Also

Also, let me say this about Inception. It is a fantastic movie. The performances are all great I really loved it. BUT....I don't think that it was Oscar worthy to begin with. What Inception was is what ALL summer popcorn flicks should be. So many times people are happy with summer blockbuster if they have a bunch of explosions a big name actor and a big name director. Let's not cheat ourselves out of good summer movies. Incepton was certainly a great example of what summer movies should be,
Also, let me say this about Inception. It is a fantastic movie. The performances are all great I really loved it. BUT....I don't think that it was Oscar worthy to begin with. What Inception was is what ALL summer popcorn flicks should be. So many times people are happy with summer blockbuster if they have a bunch of explosions a big name actor and a big name director. Let's not cheat ourselves out of good summer movies. Incepton was certainly a great example of what summer movies should be, it's great, but not Oscar category great.
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2:19PM on 03/03/2011

Thank You

I'm glad so many other people think this movie was overratted. It really was a good movie, but certainly not Best Picture worthy. The King's Speech had a lot of heart, it was about something important, The Social Network was a bunch of "hot" up and comers fighting over money over who created Facebook. Like I said it was good, but it seemed that this movie got help because it was getting Oscar buzz long before it came out and I have no clue why.
I'm glad so many other people think this movie was overratted. It really was a good movie, but certainly not Best Picture worthy. The King's Speech had a lot of heart, it was about something important, The Social Network was a bunch of "hot" up and comers fighting over money over who created Facebook. Like I said it was good, but it seemed that this movie got help because it was getting Oscar buzz long before it came out and I have no clue why.
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2:04PM on 03/03/2011

WOW!

First off. Any HALF ASS director could've made the social network into what it is with a very detailed script by Sorkin. Finchers talents was used for only...what, a row boat scene?? Please. Then who would want to see the facebook movie? It was hyped 2 weeks before it came out. It didn't succeed by word of mouth. And the "Epic" soundtrack? It is the most BORING soundtrack ever recorded, listened to many boys in their ma's basement wanting to be a music producer. I digress... I am glad a
First off. Any HALF ASS director could've made the social network into what it is with a very detailed script by Sorkin. Finchers talents was used for only...what, a row boat scene?? Please. Then who would want to see the facebook movie? It was hyped 2 weeks before it came out. It didn't succeed by word of mouth. And the "Epic" soundtrack? It is the most BORING soundtrack ever recorded, listened to many boys in their ma's basement wanting to be a music producer. I digress... I am glad a historically accurate film won over a twisted story changed for the good of making a film like sorkin knowingly did. It's a flash in the pan as will Fincher's Dragon Tattoo film which god knows why he's doing it. This should've been called, C'MON JOBLO: The Social Network is overrated and should have only won best ADAPTIVE SCREENPLAY!
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1:58PM on 03/03/2011

disagree

I like Fincher and all, but there's no way Social Network is a superior film to Kings Speech.
I like Fincher and all, but there's no way Social Network is a superior film to Kings Speech.
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1:53PM on 03/03/2011
I didn't think the Social Network was that great but I haven't seen the King's Speech. So I guess I don't know.
I didn't think the Social Network was that great but I haven't seen the King's Speech. So I guess I don't know.
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1:39PM on 03/03/2011

I disagree

I feel THE SOCIAL NETWORK didn't even deserve a nomination. It was an alright movie at best, but lacking in too many areas to be deemed "great".
I feel THE SOCIAL NETWORK didn't even deserve a nomination. It was an alright movie at best, but lacking in too many areas to be deemed "great".
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1:29PM on 03/03/2011
I respect your opinion, Chris, but The Social Network wasn't robbed in the least (it actually stole two categories it didn't deserve: Score and Editing, though these two categories were kinda void after leaving out Tron: Legacy's score and Inception's editor). Last year, I was getting very concerned when this decent, but extremely overrated film was taking most of the critics awards, so you can imagine my extreme happiness when the Guilds finally pointed out that The King's Speech was a better
I respect your opinion, Chris, but The Social Network wasn't robbed in the least (it actually stole two categories it didn't deserve: Score and Editing, though these two categories were kinda void after leaving out Tron: Legacy's score and Inception's editor). Last year, I was getting very concerned when this decent, but extremely overrated film was taking most of the critics awards, so you can imagine my extreme happiness when the Guilds finally pointed out that The King's Speech was a better film, which I have to agree with. TSN did get the one Oscar it truly deserved though: Best Adapted Screenplay for Aaron Sorkin. Picture and director ended up going where they should have (what with Inception not having any chance to win). I can't believe you would begin to compare Eisenberg's performance (basically the same one he gives in every movie) to Firth's brilliant performance. At least we can agree that Goodfellas should have easily defeated Dances with Wolves.... though we disagree on Crash (a great film, much better than Brokeback) and Chicago (another great film). Now Social Network will just fade into the background (like Brokeback did after it lost BP), while Inception and King's Speech will be remembered for years to come.
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1:15PM on 03/03/2011

GREAT ARTICLE

I found myself thinking this all day after the Oscars hoping someone with a podium would say it.. THANK YOU I really couldn't have said it better.

but no love for Crash? Maybe I just didn't like Brokeback..
I found myself thinking this all day after the Oscars hoping someone with a podium would say it.. THANK YOU I really couldn't have said it better.

but no love for Crash? Maybe I just didn't like Brokeback..
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1:07PM on 03/03/2011

The Social Network is overrated

Is it a good film? Yes, but that's all it is to me. Just a good film. On the other hand, I thought The King's Speech was a fantastic and uplifting film.

But it's not like I wanted either of those to win anyway. I was all for Black Swan.
Is it a good film? Yes, but that's all it is to me. Just a good film. On the other hand, I thought The King's Speech was a fantastic and uplifting film.

But it's not like I wanted either of those to win anyway. I was all for Black Swan.
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12:53PM on 03/03/2011
I wrote off the Oscars back when Crash won. How that POS Hallmark movie-of-the-week got so much attention and love is perpplexing. I think I was the only person in the theater laughing during the movie. Anyway, I never watch the Oscars and really couldn't care who wins or loses (aside from winning $$ on Oscar pools).

I have to admit this years' list (and last years') of nominees was pretty damn solid.
I wrote off the Oscars back when Crash won. How that POS Hallmark movie-of-the-week got so much attention and love is perpplexing. I think I was the only person in the theater laughing during the movie. Anyway, I never watch the Oscars and really couldn't care who wins or loses (aside from winning $$ on Oscar pools).

I have to admit this years' list (and last years') of nominees was pretty damn solid.
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12:39PM on 03/03/2011

Voters

The majority of academy voters are SAG & WGA, This is why films that win best picture are usually the ones with the strongest writing and acting. I thought The King's Speech was an excellent film on Par with The Social Network, but I wish Social Network had won too. It is more important to our time.
Also I don't think Jesse Eisenberg get enough credit for his acting chops, I thought he was excellent and it is a shame he is typecast. Calling him a second rate Michael Cera is insulting, if
The majority of academy voters are SAG & WGA, This is why films that win best picture are usually the ones with the strongest writing and acting. I thought The King's Speech was an excellent film on Par with The Social Network, but I wish Social Network had won too. It is more important to our time.
Also I don't think Jesse Eisenberg get enough credit for his acting chops, I thought he was excellent and it is a shame he is typecast. Calling him a second rate Michael Cera is insulting, if anything Cera is a second rate Eisenberg
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12:31PM on 03/03/2011

Matched only by INCEPTION?

I agreed with you up until you said INCEPTION was on par with SOCIAL NETWORK. Entertaining film or guilty pleasure? Sure. Interesting concept? Yes. Anywhere near the best of the year? No way.
I agreed with you up until you said INCEPTION was on par with SOCIAL NETWORK. Entertaining film or guilty pleasure? Sure. Interesting concept? Yes. Anywhere near the best of the year? No way.
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12:30PM on 03/03/2011
The Social Network is quickly becoming the most overrated movie of the last decade.

Actually, it started being overrated when critics tried to pass this dorkfest of a movie as being up there with The Godfather and All The President's Men.

C'mon. Those are great men movies with great actors.

The Social Network is a dorky movie starring 2nd and 4th rate talents like Jesse Eisenberg and Justin Timberlake.

The fact that Jesse Eisenberg was even nominated for Best Actor shows just how
The Social Network is quickly becoming the most overrated movie of the last decade.

Actually, it started being overrated when critics tried to pass this dorkfest of a movie as being up there with The Godfather and All The President's Men.

C'mon. Those are great men movies with great actors.

The Social Network is a dorky movie starring 2nd and 4th rate talents like Jesse Eisenberg and Justin Timberlake.

The fact that Jesse Eisenberg was even nominated for Best Actor shows just how far Hollywood has fallen.
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12:13PM on 03/03/2011

Great Article

I really enjoyed the article you brought up some great points. But I have mentioned this before, I hate it when people throw out statements that are opinions as facts, "The unwatchable Greatest SHow on Earth" I don't think you can make that statement. You can say it was unwatchable to you, but to make that statement sound like a universal fact is just unprofessional.
I really enjoyed the article you brought up some great points. But I have mentioned this before, I hate it when people throw out statements that are opinions as facts, "The unwatchable Greatest SHow on Earth" I don't think you can make that statement. You can say it was unwatchable to you, but to make that statement sound like a universal fact is just unprofessional.
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12:09PM on 03/03/2011
The Social Network is quickly becoming the most overrated movie of the last decade.

Actually, it started being overrated when critics tried to pass this dorkfest of a movie as being up there with The Godfather and All The President's Men.

C'mon. Those are great men movies with great actors.

The Social Network is a dorky movie starring 2nd and 4th rate talents like Jesse Eisenberg and Justin Timberlake.

The fact that Jesse Eisenberg was even nominated for Best Actor shows just how
The Social Network is quickly becoming the most overrated movie of the last decade.

Actually, it started being overrated when critics tried to pass this dorkfest of a movie as being up there with The Godfather and All The President's Men.

C'mon. Those are great men movies with great actors.

The Social Network is a dorky movie starring 2nd and 4th rate talents like Jesse Eisenberg and Justin Timberlake.

The fact that Jesse Eisenberg was even nominated for Best Actor shows just how far Hollywood has fallen.
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12:15PM on 03/03/2011
Or you could be wrong on every single point you just tried to make.
Or you could be wrong on every single point you just tried to make.
1:37PM on 03/03/2011
Dorkfest? How mature of a response.
Dorkfest? How mature of a response.
5:24PM on 03/03/2011
I would have to agree with those below, while I do appreciate your common sense towards the Social network- you killed it when you said "dorkfest" :/
I would have to agree with those below, while I do appreciate your common sense towards the Social network- you killed it when you said "dorkfest" :/
12:08PM on 03/03/2011
I think Inception and Black Swan were better than the King's Speech and Social Network(not saying those 2 are not good movies). Seems like everybody favors the social network on this site but I can't believe that Black Swan isn't getting any love. I totally agree with Children of Men being snubbed didn't even get a nomination, Departed was the 2nd best film that year Children of Men being 1st.To me there are many great movies that get overlooked but fans, critics, and the oscers always has and
I think Inception and Black Swan were better than the King's Speech and Social Network(not saying those 2 are not good movies). Seems like everybody favors the social network on this site but I can't believe that Black Swan isn't getting any love. I totally agree with Children of Men being snubbed didn't even get a nomination, Departed was the 2nd best film that year Children of Men being 1st.To me there are many great movies that get overlooked but fans, critics, and the oscers always has and always will.P.S. Daft Punk and Hans Zimmer should of won for best score but Trent's was great too.
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12:04PM on 03/03/2011
Chris, I would like to have read specific reasons on why The Social Network should have won over The King's Speech, but alas you only mention characteristics that have their own categories (music, acting, directing) and merely rely on saying "this is better than that" whithout explaining WHY you think so. Please, develop some more.

Oh, and a C'Mon Hollywood where the writer says Tron Legacy was snubbed out of best visual effects and best score would be deeply appreciated.
Chris, I would like to have read specific reasons on why The Social Network should have won over The King's Speech, but alas you only mention characteristics that have their own categories (music, acting, directing) and merely rely on saying "this is better than that" whithout explaining WHY you think so. Please, develop some more.

Oh, and a C'Mon Hollywood where the writer says Tron Legacy was snubbed out of best visual effects and best score would be deeply appreciated.
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12:02PM on 03/03/2011
After the first 3 or 4 awards, the whole ceremony was extremely predictable. They gave Inception the Avatar treatment: Cinematography, Visual effects, and a few token noms that everyone knew it didn't stand a chance in. They should just create a new best action/sci-fi category and be done with it.
After the first 3 or 4 awards, the whole ceremony was extremely predictable. They gave Inception the Avatar treatment: Cinematography, Visual effects, and a few token noms that everyone knew it didn't stand a chance in. They should just create a new best action/sci-fi category and be done with it.
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11:55AM on 03/03/2011
i guess no one out there saw the fighter because that was the best movie of the year and by the way the kings speech was better then the social by far
i guess no one out there saw the fighter because that was the best movie of the year and by the way the kings speech was better then the social by far
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11:54AM on 03/03/2011
While I agree that David Fincher should have beat Hooper for Best Director, in the other big categories I'm glad King's Speech won. I thought it was a superior film to The Social Network (which was still a great movie).

Also, don't forget that Scorsese was robbed when Taxi Driver was beaten by Rocky.
While I agree that David Fincher should have beat Hooper for Best Director, in the other big categories I'm glad King's Speech won. I thought it was a superior film to The Social Network (which was still a great movie).

Also, don't forget that Scorsese was robbed when Taxi Driver was beaten by Rocky.
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11:36AM on 03/03/2011
Completely agree. The Social Network was leaps and bounds better than The Kings Speech (which was still VERY good) but I knew going into the Oscars that it wouldn't win. King's Speech was just too much Oscar bait. A period piece about the Monarch and it's stuttering King? It was MADE to win Oscars.
Completely agree. The Social Network was leaps and bounds better than The Kings Speech (which was still VERY good) but I knew going into the Oscars that it wouldn't win. King's Speech was just too much Oscar bait. A period piece about the Monarch and it's stuttering King? It was MADE to win Oscars.
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11:02AM on 03/03/2011

Genre/Generation Gap

The big problem with the Academy Awards is that they are voted on by mainly older, very sentimental folk. The other problem is that we're talking about films whose styles are in many ways diametrically opposed to one another. You can't compare Forrest Gump- a sweet natured walk through recent history- to Pulp Fiction- a lowlife fairy tale. Same goes for The Social Network and the King's Speech. Diametrically opposed styles on every level.
The big problem with the Academy Awards is that they are voted on by mainly older, very sentimental folk. The other problem is that we're talking about films whose styles are in many ways diametrically opposed to one another. You can't compare Forrest Gump- a sweet natured walk through recent history- to Pulp Fiction- a lowlife fairy tale. Same goes for The Social Network and the King's Speech. Diametrically opposed styles on every level.
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10:46AM on 03/03/2011

Picture yes, director no

While I did love Social Network, I do think that King's Speech is the better movie. I was a little shocked that it took best director though. Both Fincher and Aronofsky were more deserving in this category.
While I did love Social Network, I do think that King's Speech is the better movie. I was a little shocked that it took best director though. Both Fincher and Aronofsky were more deserving in this category.
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11:54AM on 03/03/2011
Completely agree.
Completely agree.
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10:45AM on 03/03/2011

Was with you

I was with you until you said Forrest Gump beating Pulp Fiction. Come on, man... Forrest Gump is by far better than Pulp Fiction. Then you talk about The Social Network's soundtrack actually being good. Out of the the OST's nominated, it was the worst. It has maybe 2 good tracks on it, the rest is all crap.
I was with you until you said Forrest Gump beating Pulp Fiction. Come on, man... Forrest Gump is by far better than Pulp Fiction. Then you talk about The Social Network's soundtrack actually being good. Out of the the OST's nominated, it was the worst. It has maybe 2 good tracks on it, the rest is all crap.
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4:17PM on 03/03/2011
I'll say this. Gump is not a bad movie at all. Pulp Fiction is a more culturally significant (barely, but it is) movie.
I'll say this. Gump is not a bad movie at all. Pulp Fiction is a more culturally significant (barely, but it is) movie.
10:41AM on 03/03/2011

Eisenberg did a terrible job.

Just because you read a line as fast as you possibly can, does not acting make.

If anything, I think The Social Network would have too safe a choice for Best Picture aswell. 127 Hours, or Inception, or hell even Toy Story 3 would have DARING choices. But coming out of The King's Speech, I definitely knew it was going to win Best Picture.
Just because you read a line as fast as you possibly can, does not acting make.

If anything, I think The Social Network would have too safe a choice for Best Picture aswell. 127 Hours, or Inception, or hell even Toy Story 3 would have DARING choices. But coming out of The King's Speech, I definitely knew it was going to win Best Picture.
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10:55AM on 03/03/2011
Says a guy who's avatar is Colin Ferrell.
Says a guy who's avatar is Colin Ferrell.
5:36PM on 03/03/2011
In the one movie that he actually "acted" in. So tell me another one.
In the one movie that he actually "acted" in. So tell me another one.
10:28AM on 03/03/2011
I don't agree. For one, Eisenberg was playing a variation on the same character he always plays and isn't a good actor at all. He's like a slightly better version of Michael Cera. His character in Zombieland isn't much different than his take on Zuckerberg.
I don't agree. For one, Eisenberg was playing a variation on the same character he always plays and isn't a good actor at all. He's like a slightly better version of Michael Cera. His character in Zombieland isn't much different than his take on Zuckerberg.
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10:35AM on 03/03/2011
Just because Eisenberg can say a lot of dialogue quickly doesn't mean it's one of the best performances of the year. Acting is about a lot more than memorizing your lines. And it seemed quite easy for him to play the arrogant angry nerd. Just a more obnoxious version of his usual characters. In Adventureland, he had some very arrogant and obnoxious scenes which are exactly like his performance in The Social Network. So, it's not like he's doing much different. Colin Firth on the other
Just because Eisenberg can say a lot of dialogue quickly doesn't mean it's one of the best performances of the year. Acting is about a lot more than memorizing your lines. And it seemed quite easy for him to play the arrogant angry nerd. Just a more obnoxious version of his usual characters. In Adventureland, he had some very arrogant and obnoxious scenes which are exactly like his performance in The Social Network. So, it's not like he's doing much different. Colin Firth on the other hand created a character. Did he have some gimmicky traits that would give him award recognition? Yes. But, overall, it was a better performance and he brought a lot more to it than Eisenberg did.
10:26AM on 03/03/2011

Which was better? The script or the directing?

From the comments I'm reading, it seems like a lot of you think Fincher's directing was the most impressive aspect of this movie. Would it be the other way around, if Fincher won best director but Sorkin lost best adapted screenplay? Would you be as vocal about his snub? And if another director had used Sorkin's same screenplay do you think the movie itself would be that dramatically lower in quality as some of the comments seem to be suggesting?
From the comments I'm reading, it seems like a lot of you think Fincher's directing was the most impressive aspect of this movie. Would it be the other way around, if Fincher won best director but Sorkin lost best adapted screenplay? Would you be as vocal about his snub? And if another director had used Sorkin's same screenplay do you think the movie itself would be that dramatically lower in quality as some of the comments seem to be suggesting?
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10:10AM on 03/03/2011
While I definitely think that the King's Speech was very deserving of Best Picture and wasn't opposed to it winning as opposed to other films in the past, I definitely think the Social Network was better. Of course I knew the Academy would fuck this one up just as they did with Goodfellas and Saving Private Ryan. But how could they not give the best director Fincher? I didn't think it was possible for him to lose when he managed to make a film about facebook so brilliant and interesting. The
While I definitely think that the King's Speech was very deserving of Best Picture and wasn't opposed to it winning as opposed to other films in the past, I definitely think the Social Network was better. Of course I knew the Academy would fuck this one up just as they did with Goodfellas and Saving Private Ryan. But how could they not give the best director Fincher? I didn't think it was possible for him to lose when he managed to make a film about facebook so brilliant and interesting. The King's Speech could of been directed by Michael Bay and still won with that brilliant script and actors that it had
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10:03AM on 03/03/2011
The Social Network is one of the best movies of the year. I think the biggest problem was Ficher not winning for Best Director.

I don't think The Social Network should have won Best Picture. Inception yes, but not The Social Network.
The Social Network is one of the best movies of the year. I think the biggest problem was Ficher not winning for Best Director.

I don't think The Social Network should have won Best Picture. Inception yes, but not The Social Network.
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9:44AM on 03/03/2011
I completely agree that the Oscars almost always seem to go to the wrong movies and people. However, the reason the Academy Awards are considered the final word on the best in film is because the nominees and winners are picked by their peers. Unlike the shady "Hollywood Foreign Press" (who the hell are those people??) or a public vote (in which Twilight would win EVERYTHING), the Academy is comprised of industry veterans and award winners who have earned the right to vote.

So while I think
I completely agree that the Oscars almost always seem to go to the wrong movies and people. However, the reason the Academy Awards are considered the final word on the best in film is because the nominees and winners are picked by their peers. Unlike the shady "Hollywood Foreign Press" (who the hell are those people??) or a public vote (in which Twilight would win EVERYTHING), the Academy is comprised of industry veterans and award winners who have earned the right to vote.

So while I think The Social Network definitely should have won Best Picture and Best Director, I can't complain. Tom Hooper was selected by his peers, meaning 51% or more of all the respected directors working today thought he deserved the award more than Fincher, for whatever reason. I can't agree with them, as I thought The King's Speech was shot just like every other generic British movie. But I think their opinion holds more clout than mine, for I am but a humble movie nerd.
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10:51AM on 03/03/2011
But I'd prefer directors, writers, editors and cinematographers to have the final say. Actors should be able to vote for acting categories but I don't think they're reliable enough for other ones.
But I'd prefer directors, writers, editors and cinematographers to have the final say. Actors should be able to vote for acting categories but I don't think they're reliable enough for other ones.
11:46AM on 03/03/2011
Directors, writers, editors, and cinematographers do vote.
Directors, writers, editors, and cinematographers do vote.
3:43PM on 03/03/2011
I know they do vote, I just think their votes should be more important than actor's. In many areas of filmmkaing they have no clue on what they are supposed to focus in their assesment. That is way we got these awful nominees for Visual Effects or other technical categories.
I know they do vote, I just think their votes should be more important than actor's. In many areas of filmmkaing they have no clue on what they are supposed to focus in their assesment. That is way we got these awful nominees for Visual Effects or other technical categories.
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9:41AM on 03/03/2011
I'm pretty sure this movie got more than it deserved. Granted I would have liked it to win over Kings Speech, but they are both heaping piles of crap.
I'm pretty sure this movie got more than it deserved. Granted I would have liked it to win over Kings Speech, but they are both heaping piles of crap.
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9:40AM on 03/03/2011
You know what? I agree with Ocelot_Snake. I'm glad this didn't win. You know why? Because the films that didn't win will win something even better. Cult status. 20 years from now we'll all remember watching THE SOCIAL NETWORK and know it's still one of the best. No award can immortalize it like an audience can.
You know what? I agree with Ocelot_Snake. I'm glad this didn't win. You know why? Because the films that didn't win will win something even better. Cult status. 20 years from now we'll all remember watching THE SOCIAL NETWORK and know it's still one of the best. No award can immortalize it like an audience can.
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9:29AM on 03/03/2011

ROBBED?

I'm glad this overrated, overindulgent, pretentious borefest got ignored, it shouldn't even have been nominated! Fincher is just as overrated as his movies. Yea, I said it!
I'm glad this overrated, overindulgent, pretentious borefest got ignored, it shouldn't even have been nominated! Fincher is just as overrated as his movies. Yea, I said it!
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9:41AM on 03/03/2011
You kind sir, are a genius
You kind sir, are a genius
10:39AM on 03/03/2011
I agree although I do like some Fincher movies. In this case as with Benjamin Button, I think this guy is way overrated.
I agree although I do like some Fincher movies. In this case as with Benjamin Button, I think this guy is way overrated.
9:16AM on 03/03/2011
Honestly I have no problem with Fincher losing because Id prefer him winning for something like Se7en or Fight Club
Honestly I have no problem with Fincher losing because Id prefer him winning for something like Se7en or Fight Club
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10:06AM on 03/03/2011
But he didn't. Not like they are going to give him the Best Director 10 years later for Fight Club
But he didn't. Not like they are going to give him the Best Director 10 years later for Fight Club
12:32PM on 03/03/2011
Something like meaning when he makes another dark gritty movie
Something like meaning when he makes another dark gritty movie
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9:06AM on 03/03/2011
The Social Network wasn't robbed. Inception was.
The Social Network wasn't robbed. Inception was.
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5:20PM on 03/03/2011
Well said
Well said
9:05AM on 03/03/2011
Fincher not getting director is the biggest mistake. Just watch the behind the scenes documentary on the blu ray and you can just see how incredibly involved his direction was. Some of the techniques he used wouldnt have ever been thought of by 99% of directors. Whereas Hooper relied soley on wide angle and fisheye lenses and lets face it, 100's of directors could have done the same thing he did. Unlike what Fincher did.

Plus enough with the Shakespeare in Love hate. It was a better
Fincher not getting director is the biggest mistake. Just watch the behind the scenes documentary on the blu ray and you can just see how incredibly involved his direction was. Some of the techniques he used wouldnt have ever been thought of by 99% of directors. Whereas Hooper relied soley on wide angle and fisheye lenses and lets face it, 100's of directors could have done the same thing he did. Unlike what Fincher did.

Plus enough with the Shakespeare in Love hate. It was a better film than SPR. Really other than the first 20 mins SPR was a bore with a second rate story whereas Shakespeare was one of the truly great crowd pleasers in the last 20 years. Deal with it.
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8:39AM on 03/03/2011

....really?

Not to bash on the Social Network, but I still can't believe all the hype it is getting. It was a good movie, but to beat out what it was up against? I think it's built up for more than it is, and a lot of people are jumping on the bandwagon. You really think Social Network was better than TS3? Inception (and I know joblo has a lot of Inception fanboys)? True Grit, on the other hand, is really underrated, I think if it was an original instead of a remake it would have faired much better.
Not to bash on the Social Network, but I still can't believe all the hype it is getting. It was a good movie, but to beat out what it was up against? I think it's built up for more than it is, and a lot of people are jumping on the bandwagon. You really think Social Network was better than TS3? Inception (and I know joblo has a lot of Inception fanboys)? True Grit, on the other hand, is really underrated, I think if it was an original instead of a remake it would have faired much better.
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8:30AM on 03/03/2011

you guys should have.

Joblo.com, you guys should add a "Golden Schmoes: Test of Time Awards". Have a nomination and voting process that votes on movies from a certain year. we could decide once and for all which movies stand the test of time as oppose to movies that are fresh in our minds off award season. could be fun
Joblo.com, you guys should add a "Golden Schmoes: Test of Time Awards". Have a nomination and voting process that votes on movies from a certain year. we could decide once and for all which movies stand the test of time as oppose to movies that are fresh in our minds off award season. could be fun
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8:28AM on 03/03/2011

I agree

Although Toy Story 3 was the best movie of last year, I think realistically (c'mon TS3 had 0 chance) it should be The Social Network. It's one of Fincher's best and that's saying a lot. The King's Speech was very good, fueled by amazing performances, interesting story, very good dialogues and set in the eve of WW2. But it wasn't great, as it had too many similarities with other underdog stories and was a conventional movie, with all of the acts played out like in a handbook.
Although Toy Story 3 was the best movie of last year, I think realistically (c'mon TS3 had 0 chance) it should be The Social Network. It's one of Fincher's best and that's saying a lot. The King's Speech was very good, fueled by amazing performances, interesting story, very good dialogues and set in the eve of WW2. But it wasn't great, as it had too many similarities with other underdog stories and was a conventional movie, with all of the acts played out like in a handbook.
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8:27AM on 03/03/2011
I enjoy the C'MON Hollywood segment since an alternate opinion is something I appreciate hearing. However, in this case, I did like The King's Speech better than The Social Network. That said, I don't think it was the best of the nominated movies. I'll rank them in the order from best to worst...

EXCELLENT:

1) The Kids Are All Right
2) Winter's Bone (Jennifer Lawrence deserved best actress)

GOOD:
3) 127 Hours
4) The King's Speech

BAD:

5) The Fighter (although Christian
I enjoy the C'MON Hollywood segment since an alternate opinion is something I appreciate hearing. However, in this case, I did like The King's Speech better than The Social Network. That said, I don't think it was the best of the nominated movies. I'll rank them in the order from best to worst...

EXCELLENT:

1) The Kids Are All Right
2) Winter's Bone (Jennifer Lawrence deserved best actress)

GOOD:
3) 127 Hours
4) The King's Speech

BAD:

5) The Fighter (although Christian Bale's performance was great)

AWFUL:

6) True Grit (Very fake and uninvolving)
7)Black Swan (Cheesy, goofy, simplistic story, Portman played a one dimensional caricature, a misogynistic view of lesbianism with two Hollywood sex symbols going down on each other. Immature and obnoxious)
8)The Social Network (incredibly artificial rapid fire TV show dialogue, a terrible main character, and a dull story)
9) Inception (wasted Ellen Page, boring from beginning to end, zero character development, not very creative for a movie about dreams, etc.)

I haven't seen Toy Story 3.
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9:48AM on 03/03/2011
I've seen both WINTER'S BONE and KIDS ARE ALL RIGHT and I don't get the hype.
I've seen both WINTER'S BONE and KIDS ARE ALL RIGHT and I don't get the hype.
10:33AM on 03/03/2011
How is a hot lesbian scene immature? Would it have been better with two butch lesbians? Who wants to see that? What's wrong with a little sexuality? If anything, Hollywood has become too scared to show sexuality in most of its films for fear of scaring off conservative moviegoers.
How is a hot lesbian scene immature? Would it have been better with two butch lesbians? Who wants to see that? What's wrong with a little sexuality? If anything, Hollywood has become too scared to show sexuality in most of its films for fear of scaring off conservative moviegoers.
6:55PM on 03/03/2011
Tell us how you really feel. Seriously, I can't figure out which two movies you like the best.

Also, calling those movies awful is just idiotic.
Tell us how you really feel. Seriously, I can't figure out which two movies you like the best.

Also, calling those movies awful is just idiotic.
8:26AM on 03/03/2011
Agreed. Fincher has deserved an Oscar for years. King's Speech (Apart from Geoffrey Rush) was one of the most mediocre movies I've ever watched.
Agreed. Fincher has deserved an Oscar for years. King's Speech (Apart from Geoffrey Rush) was one of the most mediocre movies I've ever watched.
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8:18AM on 03/03/2011
I didn't even finish the first paragraph. All I have to say is...

THIS IS ALL ABOUT *OPINIONS.*

It doesn't matter what you or I or anyone else thinks except for two specific details:
- If we're not in the Academy, our opinion doesn't matter, and
- If we ARE in the Academy, and we have our opinions put up front in the nominations for the Oscars, then it only matters if our opinions fall into the MAJORITY of votes.

No, I'm sorry...but not really...it doesn't matter how good you
I didn't even finish the first paragraph. All I have to say is...

THIS IS ALL ABOUT *OPINIONS.*

It doesn't matter what you or I or anyone else thinks except for two specific details:
- If we're not in the Academy, our opinion doesn't matter, and
- If we ARE in the Academy, and we have our opinions put up front in the nominations for the Oscars, then it only matters if our opinions fall into the MAJORITY of votes.

No, I'm sorry...but not really...it doesn't matter how good you and the other majority of people think 'The Social Network' was - if the majority of the Academy thinks 'The King's Speech' deserves their recognition for being the best for director, actor, picture, etc. - then it wins. Period.

That said, *I* think 'The King's Speech' deserved all it got - and that's just MY opinion, because after all - that's what it's all about.
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8:15AM on 03/03/2011
I'll be honest, aside from fucking up my Oscar pool, I'm not that disappointed. I knew there was a damn good chance Hooper would take home the gold. And to his credit, "The King's Speech" isn't nearly as boring as it could have been. But yeah, Fincher deserved the gold. At least when Brokeback Mountain was up Ang Lee took home the directing award. I was hoping something similar would happen this year.

Chicago didn't surprise me, except when Richard Gere didn't get nominated. And I'm of the
I'll be honest, aside from fucking up my Oscar pool, I'm not that disappointed. I knew there was a damn good chance Hooper would take home the gold. And to his credit, "The King's Speech" isn't nearly as boring as it could have been. But yeah, Fincher deserved the gold. At least when Brokeback Mountain was up Ang Lee took home the directing award. I was hoping something similar would happen this year.

Chicago didn't surprise me, except when Richard Gere didn't get nominated. And I'm of the opinion Dances With Wolves is at least as good as Goodfellas. But to each his own.
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8:09AM on 03/03/2011

Don't worry gents...

Like another true master of film *cough* Martin Scorsese *cough*, he'll one day get the Oscar he deserves and we will all give him a standing ovation.

And you make a great point about SOCIAL NETWORK possibly being a disaster. I had no interest in seeing it cause of the plot but now it's my favourite movie of 2010. All because of Fincher.
Like another true master of film *cough* Martin Scorsese *cough*, he'll one day get the Oscar he deserves and we will all give him a standing ovation.

And you make a great point about SOCIAL NETWORK possibly being a disaster. I had no interest in seeing it cause of the plot but now it's my favourite movie of 2010. All because of Fincher.
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8:01AM on 03/03/2011
You're perhaps being too kind to King's Speech. Poorly shot, average direction, one great performance and two decent ones. An entirely forgettable. I was willing to concede that it would get Best Picture (its middlebrow popularity was overwhelming), but even the BAFTAs recognised the artistic superiority of Social Network in the directing category. I'd go so far as to say that the direction in King's Speech was amateur at best, and that Hooper was propped up by a strong leading man.

Anyone
You're perhaps being too kind to King's Speech. Poorly shot, average direction, one great performance and two decent ones. An entirely forgettable. I was willing to concede that it would get Best Picture (its middlebrow popularity was overwhelming), but even the BAFTAs recognised the artistic superiority of Social Network in the directing category. I'd go so far as to say that the direction in King's Speech was amateur at best, and that Hooper was propped up by a strong leading man.

Anyone could have gotten those performances out of Firth, Rush, and Bonham Carter. Could the same be said about the cast of Social Network?

It'll be looked back on as one of the bigger mistake years. A mistake of Crash and Shakespeare in Love proportions.
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7:58AM on 03/03/2011
Agree, the fact that David Fincher hasn't received an Oscar yet is an insult.
Agree, the fact that David Fincher hasn't received an Oscar yet is an insult.
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