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C'mon Hollywood: Tighten up your science fiction characters (and logic)!

Aug. 13, 2013by: Paul Shirey

SPOILER WARNING: Details of this year’s OBLIVION, PACIFIC RIM, and ELYSIUM will be discussed here. Proceed at your own peril (this includes images).

Last year, a little movie called PROMETHEUS came out, an anxiously anticipated sci-fi prequel to the ALIEN franchise, directed by Ridley Scott. Fans rabidly awaited its release, and when it finally arrived, they were divided. Although it had all the usual trimmings of a beautifully shot Ridley Scott film, it lacked in two very important aspects: character and logic. Now, I enjoyed PROMETHEUS for it’s ambiguity, which was a turn off for many, but can’t defend the actions of the onscreen scientists (the best money could buy), which was insulting, inconsistent, and just plain stupid. It was my hope that these glaring issues would be noted by Hollywood and that they would proceed in a way that wouldn’t repeat those mistakes, essentially tightening up their game.

Oh, naïve little me. Really, I had no such thoughts. I knew they’d go and screw the pooch again (and again…), but that didn’t stop me from hoping I’d get some decent follow-ups to the genre in the future (natch). And so, I set my sights on what 2013 had to offer, most notably, the big budget romps of OBLIVION, PACIFIC RIM, and ELYSIUM. So did Hollywood learn from the mistakes of PROMETHEUS with those entries? The answer ranges from “f*ck no” to “kinda-sorta,” but it’s definitely not a resounding  “hell yes.”

For some reason or another, someone is under the assumption that flashy objects are enough to distract the average moviegoer from noticing the little things, like, y’know…detail. It’s not that every sci-fi film has to achieve perfection or be as intricately woven as a Hitchcockian thriller, but there are some glaring issues that continue to repeat themselves in the genre of late, which fall squarely on character and logic.

For OBLIVION, I felt that Tom Cruise did his usual solid job as Tom Cruise in a different setting (let’s face it, the guy excels at being himself) and I thought co-stars Andrea Riseborough and Olga Kurylenko did a fine job as well. But then, you have this other set of characters, the Scavs, who come in the form of Morgan Freeman, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, and a bunch of folks we learn nothing about. After we discover the secrets of the main characters, it makes it that much more essential that we care who these guys are, since they are what’s left of humanity. Yet, we never do, and the movie feels somewhat cold as a result.

When it comes to PACIFIC RIM, a movie I’ve seen twice in the theater, the characters come off mostly as pieces on a chess board rather than people we are supposed to care about, particularly Charlie Hunnam’s character. I’m a fan of Hunnam, but he simply wasn’t given much more to do than be an insubordinate and defiant lead. His struggle is minimal, even after the loss of his brother in the beginning, because we still don’t know anything about him. Why is he a pilot? What does he want? Why does he want it? Simple back story stuff can solve that, but the majority is given to Rinko Kikuchi, whose character is set-up with a tremendous challenge to overcome (her fear and hatred of the Kaiju), but she barely scratches the surface of achieving an arc, instead opting to pass out each time she finally gets the chance. Work with me, here people!

For ELYSIUM, forget about the obvious eye-rolling social commentary, as that’s got its own set of unrealized issues, but the main problem is that we’re meant to believe that the whole planet is basically a Rio de Janeiro slum, even though the only place we ever see is Los Angeles. We see nothing of the rest of the world to really signify why people would want to live on some floating space station other than one shitty-looking locale. The stakes are too low for what we are shown.

That’s small potatoes to the biggest issue, though, which is the device that drives the film. No, not the exoskeleton or the supreme badass awesomeness that is Sharlto Copley as Kruger, but the magic machine that just cures people (ironically, much like the surgery machine in PROMETHEUS). There’s no explanation as to how this machine works (hey, it’s magic! Magic fiction!), but it can cure everything from cancer to your face literally being blown off. It also makes no sense that they would have such a thing on a floating space station and not on Earth, let alone why they’d hoard it, when trillions could be made by using them on the home planet. So, everyone on ELYSIUM is a dick that doesn’t want to share? Come on.

ELYSIUM also suffers the same character issues, but mostly in the use of Jodie Foster, who basically shows up to talk tough, and…that’s about it. It could quite possibly be the biggest waste of an Oscar-winning actress so far this year.

The thing is, I enjoyed each of these movies. I really did. But, given the talent involved, the level of work that went into them, and the base ideas they begin with, the characters, logic, and general storylines needed to be pulled tighter to really capitalize on their potential, rather than just plod along. In the end, what we’ve gotten is three fun sci-fi flicks that kind of crumble from greatness, because simple things like character development and fully realized ideas fell to the wayside in the face of spectacle, which is a damn shame. I’m tired of Cliffs Notes sci-fi. I want the whole book.

What do you think? Is the genre pulling its weight for you or do you think it's getting lazy?

Hey, no matter how much I bitch, at least none of the films mentioned here come close to this...

Extra Tidbit: Who do you think is the most memorable sci-fi character of the last decade? Those that immediately come to mind are Riddick and Wikus (from District 9).
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9:22PM on 08/14/2013

It's ambitious

but inconsistent at times. It just needs tightening up and could use advice from actual sci-fi writers.
but inconsistent at times. It just needs tightening up and could use advice from actual sci-fi writers.
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10:50AM on 08/14/2013
Every movie has plot holes, the only reason newer movies feel more flawed than older, classic films is because the newer flicks get analyzed to death on the internet with more people sharing opinions and ideas. Terminator 2, classic movie everybody loves, but why would Skynet send the T-1000 to a later point in time? Wouldn't it make more sense to send T-1000 to the exact same time they sent the original terminator to overwhelm our heroes with terminators? Why not send a terminator to kill
Every movie has plot holes, the only reason newer movies feel more flawed than older, classic films is because the newer flicks get analyzed to death on the internet with more people sharing opinions and ideas. Terminator 2, classic movie everybody loves, but why would Skynet send the T-1000 to a later point in time? Wouldn't it make more sense to send T-1000 to the exact same time they sent the original terminator to overwhelm our heroes with terminators? Why not send a terminator to kill Sarah Conner as a child? I also feel like a lot of the problems people had with the Dark Knight Rises, could also apply to the Dark Knight but everybody had such a huge boner for Ledger's performance that nobody cared about the plot holes or leaps in logic that most filmmakers ask the audience to take. It all boils down to, does the film have heart, Pacific Rim, Eylsium, and Looper are all flawed but at least there was passion driving those films, where something like Transformers and Man of Steel are done for paychecks and disaster porn.
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3:00AM on 08/14/2013

What if

Science fiction always requires an element of "what if" and nine times out of ten it requires a plot element that cannot easily be explained away. Take Looper for instance: the Loopers were called Loopers because they knew they one day would have to kill their future selves. But why did they tell them that? Why not have them continue to work after they killed themselves and then have them retire only SURPRISE to go back in time and become one of their own victims. A better movie could have
Science fiction always requires an element of "what if" and nine times out of ten it requires a plot element that cannot easily be explained away. Take Looper for instance: the Loopers were called Loopers because they knew they one day would have to kill their future selves. But why did they tell them that? Why not have them continue to work after they killed themselves and then have them retire only SURPRISE to go back in time and become one of their own victims. A better movie could have been made with the premise of keeping the Loopers in the dark.
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11:42PM on 08/13/2013

video games own movies

mass effect and deus ex human revolution would both be better than any sci-fi movie
mass effect and deus ex human revolution would both be better than any sci-fi movie
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7:20PM on 08/13/2013

EXTRA TIDBIT

He's not that glamorous, but how about Joel from Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind?

Runners-Up: Syndrome from The Incredibles, Tony "Iron Man" Stark, Captain Malcolm Reynolds from Serenity, Theo (Clive Owen) from Children of Men, Cobb (Leo DiCaprio) from Inception, Captain Coulter Stevens (Jake Gyllenhaal) from Source Code...and of course, WALL-E!
He's not that glamorous, but how about Joel from Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind?

Runners-Up: Syndrome from The Incredibles, Tony "Iron Man" Stark, Captain Malcolm Reynolds from Serenity, Theo (Clive Owen) from Children of Men, Cobb (Leo DiCaprio) from Inception, Captain Coulter Stevens (Jake Gyllenhaal) from Source Code...and of course, WALL-E!
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6:54PM on 08/13/2013
Oh, how about the zombies in World War Z where the virus basically turn them into crazed cannibals with no super strength or genetic mutation whatsoever (aside from having weird eyes and drooling all over) but apparently it also made their sense of smell to be as acute as a dog that it could even sense pathologic diseases on humans? And yet, they are only attracted to sound.

How about the fact that a few hundred years old despot was revived only to build superweapons for some paranoid
Oh, how about the zombies in World War Z where the virus basically turn them into crazed cannibals with no super strength or genetic mutation whatsoever (aside from having weird eyes and drooling all over) but apparently it also made their sense of smell to be as acute as a dog that it could even sense pathologic diseases on humans? And yet, they are only attracted to sound.

How about the fact that a few hundred years old despot was revived only to build superweapons for some paranoid general, but no one has ever thought to utilize his lazarus quality blood for either money or breakthrough in medical science? And why didn't Bones conduct blood test on the other popsicle superhumans to see if they have the same blood quality while Spock was chasing down Benedick Cumberbatch? Also a blood type that can revive dead humans? That's the ultimate Hollywood deus ex machina equivalent of a Dragon Ball.

Add those with Prometheus' jackass scientists, it all comes down to one man who singlehandedly throws out logic in movies out the window. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Damon Lindelof.
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6:51PM on 08/13/2013

if you dont choke to death on elysium's poiticisms...maybe thisll do it...

---the station knows the undocumented little girl, once she was a citizen...
---if elysium hates the poor so much...why are there robots to keep the peace?
---why not build the robots on elysium? or another station closeby?
---what wouldve happened if Kruger was 13inches from that van when delacourt, waiting until the last possible minute, called him to destroy the shuttle?
---the station knows the undocumented little girl, once she was a citizen...
---if elysium hates the poor so much...why are there robots to keep the peace?
---why not build the robots on elysium? or another station closeby?
---what wouldve happened if Kruger was 13inches from that van when delacourt, waiting until the last possible minute, called him to destroy the shuttle?
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6:04PM on 08/13/2013
Years from now they'll ask, "Where were you when everyone agreed and got along after reading an article online?" Wow. I think we need to shut the internet down for the day and mark this in the history books.
Years from now they'll ask, "Where were you when everyone agreed and got along after reading an article online?" Wow. I think we need to shut the internet down for the day and mark this in the history books.
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6:00PM on 08/13/2013

Spot on Paul!

You hit the nail on the head (particularly about Elysium)! I had issues with the inexplicable magic beds as well. Also in terms of logic: If Sharlto Copley's character uses a force field to protect himself then this is a world where force fields exist soooooo...why isn't there a force field protecting Elysium?

As a side note the best part of Elysium was Sharlto Copley's character BBQ'ing with a katana blade. That was cool at least...
You hit the nail on the head (particularly about Elysium)! I had issues with the inexplicable magic beds as well. Also in terms of logic: If Sharlto Copley's character uses a force field to protect himself then this is a world where force fields exist soooooo...why isn't there a force field protecting Elysium?

As a side note the best part of Elysium was Sharlto Copley's character BBQ'ing with a katana blade. That was cool at least...
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3:36PM on 08/13/2013

"PACIFIC RIM" GETS A PASS.

It was supposed to be as one-dimensional as GODZILLA, ULTRAMAN and POWER RANGERS. Although, it would've been one of the best movies of the year with more memorable characters and less clichs. OBLIVION on the other hand, had no excuse.

The whole "Action movies don't need good scripts" is a silly stereotype that became more popular in the '80s, but it ended a while ago. By now, we now that they CAN have good scripts AND good action. So any action movie that puts its script aside and uses that
It was supposed to be as one-dimensional as GODZILLA, ULTRAMAN and POWER RANGERS. Although, it would've been one of the best movies of the year with more memorable characters and less clichs. OBLIVION on the other hand, had no excuse.

The whole "Action movies don't need good scripts" is a silly stereotype that became more popular in the '80s, but it ended a while ago. By now, we now that they CAN have good scripts AND good action. So any action movie that puts its script aside and uses that excuse just can't be good.
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3:04PM on 08/13/2013
Character development is very usual problem nowadays, Hollywood expects us to "feel" for someone just because. In this regard, we should mention that Marvel takes them more seriously than any other studio in that regard.

Maybe, just maybe thats why TV shows are getting so much better now. You see shows like Breaking Bad or Games of Thrones and EVERYTHING is about character building, you understand them, you hate/love them and you know why.

On the other hand.. WHAT IS SCI-FI CURRENTLY?
Character development is very usual problem nowadays, Hollywood expects us to "feel" for someone just because. In this regard, we should mention that Marvel takes them more seriously than any other studio in that regard.

Maybe, just maybe thats why TV shows are getting so much better now. You see shows like Breaking Bad or Games of Thrones and EVERYTHING is about character building, you understand them, you hate/love them and you know why.

On the other hand.. WHAT IS SCI-FI CURRENTLY? Was Inception a Sci-Fi thriller? What about The Avengers? What about Wall-E? The Hobbit? Or Predators?

What makes a Sci-Fi film truly a genre of its own? Just wondering...
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3:21AM on 08/14/2013
Strictly speaking, Star Wars was not proper science fiction because it had elements of magic and the Hobbit is not science fiction at all but fantasy.
Strictly speaking, Star Wars was not proper science fiction because it had elements of magic and the Hobbit is not science fiction at all but fantasy.
2:31PM on 08/13/2013
Star Trek 2 (the reboot of Kahn) was also flawed as above. In fact, to me it was this year's Prometheus. Pretty and tight, but the characters were largely retarded. I would have dropped half the action scenes in that film for a tighter plot and more engaging character development. Seems recently Hollywood have confused sci-fi for 80's action movies 2.0.
Star Trek 2 (the reboot of Kahn) was also flawed as above. In fact, to me it was this year's Prometheus. Pretty and tight, but the characters were largely retarded. I would have dropped half the action scenes in that film for a tighter plot and more engaging character development. Seems recently Hollywood have confused sci-fi for 80's action movies 2.0.
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2:22PM on 08/13/2013
Most of the leaps in logic don't bother me as I expect it as part of the genre. Elsyium seems the least of a leap in logic as far as sci-fi goes, as, to me, the explanation of an over-populated and polluted Earth is enough. It's easy to imagine much of the rest of the world the same or worse than LA. As for the others, I am always willing to make leaps in logic for the benefits the rest of the films provide. I enjoyed each of the films listed, some more than others. But if you compare these to
Most of the leaps in logic don't bother me as I expect it as part of the genre. Elsyium seems the least of a leap in logic as far as sci-fi goes, as, to me, the explanation of an over-populated and polluted Earth is enough. It's easy to imagine much of the rest of the world the same or worse than LA. As for the others, I am always willing to make leaps in logic for the benefits the rest of the films provide. I enjoyed each of the films listed, some more than others. But if you compare these to older films, like those from the 80's, you run into many of the same issues. However, I think there was such a big fascination with the genre then that forgoing a lot of the logic was just easier. These days, I guess, people are a lot more picky about these things.
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1:43PM on 08/13/2013
Couldn't have said it better myself. Looking back on this summer, Star Trek is what stands out to me as being one of the better movies. I wish they didn't pigeonhole themselves into being just Wrath of Kahn redux, but it delivered in most departments. Man of Steel, Pacific Rim, and Elysium... I wish they had a bit more story to go with the spectacle. I enjoyed Oblivion more than most other things this summer, it wasn't perfect, but it was unique and wasn't trying to be just an action movie
Couldn't have said it better myself. Looking back on this summer, Star Trek is what stands out to me as being one of the better movies. I wish they didn't pigeonhole themselves into being just Wrath of Kahn redux, but it delivered in most departments. Man of Steel, Pacific Rim, and Elysium... I wish they had a bit more story to go with the spectacle. I enjoyed Oblivion more than most other things this summer, it wasn't perfect, but it was unique and wasn't trying to be just an action movie (like Elysium).
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1:33PM on 08/13/2013
People are just looking for answers to the human condition or prove to themselves and others that they are smarter than the movies and again others to sit and enjoy a movie for what it is anymore.
People are just looking for answers to the human condition or prove to themselves and others that they are smarter than the movies and again others to sit and enjoy a movie for what it is anymore.
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12:14PM on 08/13/2013

Good read, but...

...I'm not totally sure why Pacific Rim is on here. Elysium, Oblivion, Prometheus are all edgier, more "thinking person's" sci-fi, but PR was, for me, a fun summer blast that didn't mind being a bit silly. The characters certainly could have been stronger, but it's such a different type of sci-fi movie, and it didn't really bother me.
...I'm not totally sure why Pacific Rim is on here. Elysium, Oblivion, Prometheus are all edgier, more "thinking person's" sci-fi, but PR was, for me, a fun summer blast that didn't mind being a bit silly. The characters certainly could have been stronger, but it's such a different type of sci-fi movie, and it didn't really bother me.
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12:13PM on 08/13/2013
My only real issue with Elysium was okay, the Earth is overpopulated, horribly polluted, and just because everyone gets citizenship on Elysium isn't going to fix that.

Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of other problems with that movie, but I chalk most of those up to sci-fi tropes.

I may get thumbed-down for saying this, but James Cameron has had his share of relatively unexplained sci-fi issues. Like the existence of John Connor. They never quite explain how Kyle Reese could have
My only real issue with Elysium was okay, the Earth is overpopulated, horribly polluted, and just because everyone gets citizenship on Elysium isn't going to fix that.

Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of other problems with that movie, but I chalk most of those up to sci-fi tropes.

I may get thumbed-down for saying this, but James Cameron has had his share of relatively unexplained sci-fi issues. Like the existence of John Connor. They never quite explain how Kyle Reese could have fathered John Connor without John Connor's help.
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12:00PM on 08/13/2013
BTW, iO9 has an article they posted yesterday about this very same topic but in relation to tv shows and sci-fi. Interesting.
BTW, iO9 has an article they posted yesterday about this very same topic but in relation to tv shows and sci-fi. Interesting.
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12:44PM on 08/13/2013
Not "interesting because I think you took it from them". I meant interesting that this same topic is coming up in two places in a short period of time.
Not "interesting because I think you took it from them". I meant interesting that this same topic is coming up in two places in a short period of time.
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11:59AM on 08/13/2013
Again, this is what happens when you have Hollywood hacks trying to write sci-fi. It all started with Star Trek:TNG when they got rid of the sci-fi authors (D.C. Fontana, et. al.) and brought in script writers to make bland episodes filled with technobabble. Look at Duncan Jones two efforts, "Moon" and "Source Code". Two fine examples of what sci-fi movies should be striving towards, not away. Also last years "Dredd" which cleaned up the clusterfuck that Stallone made of the character.
Again, this is what happens when you have Hollywood hacks trying to write sci-fi. It all started with Star Trek:TNG when they got rid of the sci-fi authors (D.C. Fontana, et. al.) and brought in script writers to make bland episodes filled with technobabble. Look at Duncan Jones two efforts, "Moon" and "Source Code". Two fine examples of what sci-fi movies should be striving towards, not away. Also last years "Dredd" which cleaned up the clusterfuck that Stallone made of the character.

Extra Tidbit: Karl Urban's Judge Dredd and Thirlby's Judge Anderson.
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11:36AM on 08/13/2013
Out out the films mentioned I enjoyed Pacific Rim the most, which is ironic because it was the one I was least excited for. But with all the issues each film had, Pacific Rim was the most fun, which made it incredibly easy to over look any of the negatives. Elysium was a chore to sit through at times.
Out out the films mentioned I enjoyed Pacific Rim the most, which is ironic because it was the one I was least excited for. But with all the issues each film had, Pacific Rim was the most fun, which made it incredibly easy to over look any of the negatives. Elysium was a chore to sit through at times.
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11:28AM on 08/13/2013
Yeah I can agree with you that sci-fi has devolved into "Oh hey look it all this CGI, cool-ass sci-fi tech, and explosions". Although, Pacific Rim doesn't deserve to be called out since it doesn't pretend to be anything else than a childhood wet dream. Here's hoping Nolan's "Interstellar" to the hype.
Yeah I can agree with you that sci-fi has devolved into "Oh hey look it all this CGI, cool-ass sci-fi tech, and explosions". Although, Pacific Rim doesn't deserve to be called out since it doesn't pretend to be anything else than a childhood wet dream. Here's hoping Nolan's "Interstellar" to the hype.
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11:25AM on 08/13/2013
So many issues with Elysium's plot-holes.
1. How could Spider and his gang get to Elysium so easy? Why didn't such a high tech place have its own missile/laser defense system?
2. If illegals making it to Elysium was such a big problem, why weren't the people's houses with the med beds in them better protected? Apparently you can throw a flower pot through a window and access some of the best technology in the universe. Every house should have had a security droid.
3. When Kruger and his
So many issues with Elysium's plot-holes.
1. How could Spider and his gang get to Elysium so easy? Why didn't such a high tech place have its own missile/laser defense system?
2. If illegals making it to Elysium was such a big problem, why weren't the people's houses with the med beds in them better protected? Apparently you can throw a flower pot through a window and access some of the best technology in the universe. Every house should have had a security droid.
3. When Kruger and his gang started blowing shit up and taking over, where were the droids for protection? Apparently there are only 4 in the entire place.
4. If ALL the people of Earth were now citizens, why were the 5 ships with med beds ONLY sent to LA? Why LA and not Hong Kong?
5. And those med beds would have created a huge riot. You think people would calmly get in line to be healed? I've seen what happens when they hand out rice in Africa. It would be riots and death and people being trampled... until some mob boss comes in, blows everyone away and steals a med bed for himself to create an immortal crime organization/army. So by saving that one girl, Matt Damon condemned a lot more people to death.
6. How the hell could Elysium be shut down and restarted with one executed program? I can't even reset my PC without going through a bunch of tedious shit. Again, Elysium needed better security.
7. The ending was stupid because the higher ups of Elysium will just rewrite the program and make everyone not citizens again - and possibly execute the little girl and her mother. So who cares? It's not like anything was permanently changed .

I could go on and on. What a disappointment after District 9.
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11:45AM on 08/13/2013
These are amazing points. A lot of them I subliminally came up with also. I feel like all spectacle and explosions aside, Elysium insulted my intelligence more than Prometheus did.
These are amazing points. A lot of them I subliminally came up with also. I feel like all spectacle and explosions aside, Elysium insulted my intelligence more than Prometheus did.
12:07PM on 08/13/2013
Yeah. I was so looking forward to this movie, I even gathered a group of friends to see it with (some who weren't really into seeing it to begin with) and by the end I was apologizing.
Yeah. I was so looking forward to this movie, I even gathered a group of friends to see it with (some who weren't really into seeing it to begin with) and by the end I was apologizing.
1:08PM on 08/13/2013
All good points but #3 is answered in the end. the droids cant act against a citizen of Elysium. Considering the Miracle Machine recognized and fixed Kruger, he had to have citizenship, and therefore was immune to droid action.
I would also add to your list #8 that no med bed ship was dispatched for the CEO guy they shot full of holes.
All good points but #3 is answered in the end. the droids cant act against a citizen of Elysium. Considering the Miracle Machine recognized and fixed Kruger, he had to have citizenship, and therefore was immune to droid action.
I would also add to your list #8 that no med bed ship was dispatched for the CEO guy they shot full of holes.
1:34PM on 08/13/2013
oh fuck buddha! You're completely right. No med bed ship was dispatched for the CEO.
oh fuck buddha! You're completely right. No med bed ship was dispatched for the CEO.
11:24AM on 08/13/2013
Extra tidbit: Ellen Ripley from Aliens.
Extra tidbit: Ellen Ripley from Aliens.
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11:49AM on 08/13/2013
"...the last decade"
"...the last decade"
1:20PM on 08/13/2013
Still Ellen Ripley for me.
Still Ellen Ripley for me.
2:11PM on 08/13/2013
The amount of fucks Netforce gives: 0
The amount of fucks Netforce gives: 0
11:18AM on 08/13/2013
For all the perceived plot holes, I'm still glad we're getting original science fiction films. The Total Recall reboot was not a terrible film, but it just had no reason to exist - I'd much rather more Oblivions than more films like that.
For all the perceived plot holes, I'm still glad we're getting original science fiction films. The Total Recall reboot was not a terrible film, but it just had no reason to exist - I'd much rather more Oblivions than more films like that.
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11:17AM on 08/13/2013

Tidbit...

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11:20AM on 08/13/2013
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11:03AM on 08/13/2013
After the end of Elysium i was left wishing Kruger had been the main character. Maybethe magic beds can still fix him.
After the end of Elysium i was left wishing Kruger had been the main character. Maybethe magic beds can still fix him.
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10:50AM on 08/13/2013
All great points. The biggest problem that took me away from the immersion of Elysium, was the shaky cam. I've never seen it so badly used before. Even more than Batman Begins or The Bourne series. The fight scenes in Elysium where filmed so close and shook so hard, that there were times I felt insulted for being presented a film that looked like that. The best part of Pacific Rim? I was able to watch and see everything clearly. Such was not the case with Elysium.
All great points. The biggest problem that took me away from the immersion of Elysium, was the shaky cam. I've never seen it so badly used before. Even more than Batman Begins or The Bourne series. The fight scenes in Elysium where filmed so close and shook so hard, that there were times I felt insulted for being presented a film that looked like that. The best part of Pacific Rim? I was able to watch and see everything clearly. Such was not the case with Elysium.
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10:55AM on 08/13/2013
Also, why didn't Elysium have it's own anti-air defenses? The most wealthiest people, most expensive object ever built- with it's own military, police and political government- doesn't have military assets to protect it from hostile forces? They must use secret government agents on the ground to covertly blow up unauthorized vehicles? How does that make sense?

Alright fine, it doesn't have it's own air space defense battery. What about it's own Air Force? Why is there no military patrols
Also, why didn't Elysium have it's own anti-air defenses? The most wealthiest people, most expensive object ever built- with it's own military, police and political government- doesn't have military assets to protect it from hostile forces? They must use secret government agents on the ground to covertly blow up unauthorized vehicles? How does that make sense?

Alright fine, it doesn't have it's own air space defense battery. What about it's own Air Force? Why is there no military patrols protecting the space station?
11:06AM on 08/13/2013
DeejayForte, i was wondering that too, the only thing i could come up with was politics. The current regime may have been against those things so thats another reason why foster started her coup
DeejayForte, i was wondering that too, the only thing i could come up with was politics. The current regime may have been against those things so thats another reason why foster started her coup
11:24AM on 08/13/2013
If it's politics, which I believe you're correct- how does that even make sense? It's taboo to protect yourself? It's just bad writing.
If it's politics, which I believe you're correct- how does that even make sense? It's taboo to protect yourself? It's just bad writing.
10:50AM on 08/13/2013
I'm with you on this. I'm also with on enjoying [most of] them despite their issues. Sci-fi used to be a smart genre, but lately it's devolved into dumb popcorn entertainment, with Star Trek unfortunately leading the charge. I still enjoyed Prometheus, really enjoyed Oblivion, and still like the new Star Treks, but I'm really craving some intelligence thrown back into science fiction.
I'm with you on this. I'm also with on enjoying [most of] them despite their issues. Sci-fi used to be a smart genre, but lately it's devolved into dumb popcorn entertainment, with Star Trek unfortunately leading the charge. I still enjoyed Prometheus, really enjoyed Oblivion, and still like the new Star Treks, but I'm really craving some intelligence thrown back into science fiction.
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