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C'mon Hollywood: When does the R-rating matter?

Jun. 3, 2014by: Paul Shirey

It was recently announced that THE EXPENDABLES 3 would be rated PG-13, which brought out the usual disdain for a non R-rated pic featuring our favorite ‘80’s action star icons. Many dismissed the film outright, calling it a lost cause without the blood-boobs-and-expletives R-rating, even though both Arnold and Sly’s recent R-rated efforts failed to bring the box office magic. With my bias clearly in check, however, I gave it some thought. Does THE EXPENDABLES 3 really need an R to be good? Does every action movie need an R to live up to its full potential? I genuinely used to think so, but after a little introspection and a quick reflection on some of my favorite films of the last few years, it has occurred to me that maybe (gasp) PG-13 isn’t so bad after all, particularly when applied to films that don't necessarily need that "hard" R.

As a kid, prior to hitting that 17-year-old sweet spot, seeing an R-rated movie was like getting away with something. In many instances, it kind of was, too, as the movies I grew up on in the years leading up to becoming “street legal” were flicks like DIE HARD, ROBOCOP, THE TOXIC AVENGER, and every Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Seagal, and Van Damme pic that ever uttered a hundred f*cks and put blood squibs to work long before the advent of computers turned them into a videogame effect. I also remember seeing INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM in 1984 and watching my best friends sister run screaming out of the theater during the “dinner” scene. I didn’t know it at the time, but changes were on the horizon.

After the aforementioned Indy sequel eked into theaters on a PG rating, as well as POLTERGEIST and GREMLINS, parents groups were in an uproar over the content, which caused director Steven Spielberg to suggest the “in-between” rating of PG-13, which was quickly approved by the MPAA. Since that time, the rating has morphed into Hollywood’s most sought after marketing tool. With massive PG-13 hits like Raimi’s SPIDER-MAN trilogy, JURASSIC PARK, TITANIC, THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS franchise, and of course the TWILIGHT saga and THE HUNGER GAMES franchise, Hollywood has started chasing the PG-13 as it seems to hit the demographic “sweet spot” where it seemingly doesn’t “cut off” teens like an “R” would and doesn’t dissuade them like a “PG” might. It’s an all-ages smorgasbord of disposable income!

Of late, a number of film franchises that were born of the “R” rated era have curtailed into this PG-13 honey pot, causing fans to lose their shit (and reasonably so in many cases) over a sanitized version of their foul-mouthed, blood and guts, T&A series’ that have presumably “gone soft” with a lighter rating. 2007’s LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, which even went as far as to have a muffled Yippie Ki-Yay, motherBLAM in place of its signature phrase, was one of the first old-school franchises to go PG-13, yet still managed to turn a healthy profit, unlike the recent ROBOCOP remake, which tanked domestically.

The thing is, though, PG-13 movies have gotten better. Like, just a few F-bombs, blood spurts, and boob shots short of an “R” better (or worse, depending on how your view the uptick in suggestive content).  Rather than playing it safely with the PG-13 rating, filmmakers are pushing to the very edge of it. I remember watching FAST FIVE and kind of marveling at the carnage and awesomeness I was seeing. When it was over I had to look it up to see if it was an “R” or not. The energy, the high-octane action, and the intensity reminded me of the old-school action romps I grew up on, but I was suddenly in a place where I couldn’t discern whether or not I’d just seen something that was for 17 and over adults or not.

The superhero genre has had similar success; Dark themes, high body counts, and even some mild profanity (just slightly more than you’d catch in a monthly comic) are sprinkled throughout these films. From THE AVENGERS to THE DARK KNIGHT to MAN OF STEEL, these flicks are filled with moments that easily tow the line of an R, without taking it into territory it doesn’t need to go into. The truth is, we don’t need an R-rated Batman or Captain America. They don’t go that route in the comics and don’t need to go that route on the big screen. The horror genre as well has had some success with PG-13 where an R simply wasn’t needed. The one-two punch of INSIDIOUS and INSIDIOUS: CHAPTER TWO, THE RING, and last year’s MAMA are proof that a horror film can be scary without being oversaturated in the usual tropes. That said, the genre typically fares better with an R (i.e. EVIL DEAD remake, THE CONJURING) as the themes in horror typically push those limits and then some. For many, that’s the draw, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t room for a few strong entries that don’t carry the restricted tag.

The R has its place, that much is clear. Some movies simply cannot (and should not) exist with any other rating. You cannot have a PG-13 rated THE WOLF OF WALL STREET, SEVEN, HOSTEL, GLADIATOR or BRIDESMAIDS. Just try and watch any one of those edited for television. It’s painful. Hell is watching movies on TNT, that’s a fact.  But, these are films that tackle subject matter and themes that are simply not meant for an audience of prepubescent teens. Sure, some younger audiences are more mature than others, but most are simply not prepared to handle it. They could enjoy these films, sure, but most are just reveling in the excess, as it’s foreign to their sensibilities.

So, where does that leave movies like THE EXPENDABLES 3 or the ROBOCOP remake?

THE EXPENDABLES 2 barely lived up to its R-rating, which likely cost it a few bucks, whereas ROBOCOP desperately needed an R to entice fans of the original and add a bit of an edge. Both would’ve arguably been better had they swapped ratings. However, after seeing what’s been done in films like FAST & FURIOUS 6, THE DARK KNIGHT, etc., I think there’s plenty of evidence that you can deliver an exciting action or sci-fi film with a PG-13 that doesn’t feel like a compromise. It should always be about making the best, most entertaining film anyway, be it PG-13 or R, but at this stage of the game it’s not a foregone conclusion that either one can forsake a film to failure or guarantee its success. The content dictates the rating, ultimately, fairly or unfairly, but it's certainly not always a clear cut answer.

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2:48PM on 06/04/2014

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the first two were down right terrible. Maybe the PG-13 rating will help it or kill it. IDK why they are doing it PG-13 now wouldn't you of wanted to do it from the start and make more money. Then release the UNRATED DVDs for even more cash. But it doesn't matter about the rating, the fun factors in both of these films were so lame. And I love action movies, I love the actors, I grew up on these films. But Something was just missing idk what though.
the first two were down right terrible. Maybe the PG-13 rating will help it or kill it. IDK why they are doing it PG-13 now wouldn't you of wanted to do it from the start and make more money. Then release the UNRATED DVDs for even more cash. But it doesn't matter about the rating, the fun factors in both of these films were so lame. And I love action movies, I love the actors, I grew up on these films. But Something was just missing idk what though.
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3:37PM on 06/03/2014

IT DEPENDS ON THE "FUN" FACTOR

Whether its action or comedy or scifi or comics.. ultimately goes to the "fun" factor.

If the goal is to have a more fun-at-the-movies experience rather than a jaw-dropping experience, well, sure.. a PG13 might suffice.

I can see Expendables 3 going the PG13 route, I mean the last one was more about cameos and one liners than anything else, and it still worked! It also works for most superheroes movies, I mean.. Superman should be inspiring and fun, just as Iron Man, Avengers and the now
Whether its action or comedy or scifi or comics.. ultimately goes to the "fun" factor.

If the goal is to have a more fun-at-the-movies experience rather than a jaw-dropping experience, well, sure.. a PG13 might suffice.

I can see Expendables 3 going the PG13 route, I mean the last one was more about cameos and one liners than anything else, and it still worked! It also works for most superheroes movies, I mean.. Superman should be inspiring and fun, just as Iron Man, Avengers and the now coming Guardians of the Galaxy.

Now, you cannot have a PG 13 Robocop... come on! That is sacrilege!! Same goes to Die Hard!

Can you imagine watching the awesome THE RAID wathered down to PG13??? UGgghhh

For those films, you need to feel the pain, the shock, the hardship. And in a way, they criticize our violent world we live in.

Not everything is supposed to be "fun" just as not everything must be "shocking". One thing is for sure.. THERE IS AN AUDIENCE FOR BOTH! It only takes good vision and good quality. Period

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3:16PM on 06/03/2014
I dont expect to hear Batman or Superman say "Fuck"... I expect to hear Stallone, Schwarzennegger, Snipes, Statham etc to say "Go Fuck Yourself Mother Fucker"...

The argument of comic book movies vs. The Expendables is apples and oranges!

Also.. Live Free or Die Hard was released on DVD in an Unrated cut.. A VASTLY superior unrated cut! John McClane must curse.. the end!
I dont expect to hear Batman or Superman say "Fuck"... I expect to hear Stallone, Schwarzennegger, Snipes, Statham etc to say "Go Fuck Yourself Mother Fucker"...

The argument of comic book movies vs. The Expendables is apples and oranges!

Also.. Live Free or Die Hard was released on DVD in an Unrated cut.. A VASTLY superior unrated cut! John McClane must curse.. the end!
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1:34PM on 06/03/2014
An R rating kind of gives the feel of "anything goes." There might be nudity, f-bombs galore, bloody fights and deaths. Going into a movie like Expendables 3 with a PG-13 rating gives it a limiting feel and dilutes the excitement.
An R rating kind of gives the feel of "anything goes." There might be nudity, f-bombs galore, bloody fights and deaths. Going into a movie like Expendables 3 with a PG-13 rating gives it a limiting feel and dilutes the excitement.
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12:03PM on 06/03/2014
A good PG13 movie is a good movie, It's as simple as that.... just like a good R-rated movie is a good movie as well.... Basicly, i tend to look at this issue, like i approach genre, just because i like Horror, does not mean i can't enjoy a good comedy as well. There is absolutely a market voor R-rated movies, it's just not that big a market anymore, but it comes in and out in waves, just like fashion. You can't hold it against studio's that they don't spend as much money on something that's
A good PG13 movie is a good movie, It's as simple as that.... just like a good R-rated movie is a good movie as well.... Basicly, i tend to look at this issue, like i approach genre, just because i like Horror, does not mean i can't enjoy a good comedy as well. There is absolutely a market voor R-rated movies, it's just not that big a market anymore, but it comes in and out in waves, just like fashion. You can't hold it against studio's that they don't spend as much money on something that's not very profitable, it is a industry, not a public service.

That being said, for me personally, i like R-rated, i'm not against violence or nudity in my movies, it's all about the way they weave it into the movie. The Raid, for instance, was a movie wherein violence was part of the subject matter, and also very well executed. I liked that. But how weird would it be if Mission Impossible suddenly became hard R? MI is the perfect example of why a great action movie, does not need R-rated material, to be great action movie....

A big factor when it comes to blood for me is realisme, For me no CGI blood,or over exagerated bloodsquirting, and certainly not gore that's digitally added after the movie was made. If you build your movie as a PG13 movie, stick with that.
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12:05PM on 06/03/2014
Oh and for Robocop; That was a awful movie, it does not get any better by adding extra violence... when the movie sucks.... it sucks....
Oh and for Robocop; That was a awful movie, it does not get any better by adding extra violence... when the movie sucks.... it sucks....
11:17AM on 06/03/2014

Expendables 2 is a reason why some movies NEED to be R

Expendables 1 was badass. Tons of gore and it was just fun. E2 was utter crap. It was just the worst movie any of those guys have ever been a part of. The horrible CG blood, the dialogue, the boring middle part and even the deaths of the villains were just bad. It was a crappy movie. I have no hope for E3, even with the cast its going to suck and look like a direct to VOD movie.
Expendables 1 was badass. Tons of gore and it was just fun. E2 was utter crap. It was just the worst movie any of those guys have ever been a part of. The horrible CG blood, the dialogue, the boring middle part and even the deaths of the villains were just bad. It was a crappy movie. I have no hope for E3, even with the cast its going to suck and look like a direct to VOD movie.
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11:51AM on 06/03/2014
The CG blood came about because of the massive fan backlash over the announcement that is was going to be PG-13. They had to add blood in post production just to get that R Rating. And Bad dialogue in a film like that is too be expected.
The CG blood came about because of the massive fan backlash over the announcement that is was going to be PG-13. They had to add blood in post production just to get that R Rating. And Bad dialogue in a film like that is too be expected.
10:51AM on 06/03/2014

The problem with the "R" brand

I agree that there are great R movies, and great PG-13 movies. There are movies that shouldn't be R, and movies that would be impossible to make anything less than R. My issues are with studios trying to push the envelope and court the cachet of the brand of "R." To understand that cachet, you have to step into a time machine and revist the excesses of 80's action movies - where gratuitous violence, nudity and language were not the means of storytelling - but became glued to the genre. This, in
I agree that there are great R movies, and great PG-13 movies. There are movies that shouldn't be R, and movies that would be impossible to make anything less than R. My issues are with studios trying to push the envelope and court the cachet of the brand of "R." To understand that cachet, you have to step into a time machine and revist the excesses of 80's action movies - where gratuitous violence, nudity and language were not the means of storytelling - but became glued to the genre. This, in turn, was due partially to a restricted genre's need for brinksmanship - with each movie trying to top the previous with cavalier violence. One guy gets an arrow to the neck - it'll have to be in the eye next time. I say this as somebody who grew up with 80s and action movies, and still like many of them. But it's important to be able to separate that aspect from the other elements that make a movie good.

So fast forward to the current day, and we see studios understanding that there's an audience who appreciates those excesses, but is unable to let go of the revenue. And this is where the misuse of the "R" brand comes into play. You offer trailers for a film that insinuate graphic carnage, and you build up this expectation of "R"-ness; or a level of mayhem and violence that will be prominent and in a way, politically incorrect, or even defiant. You can think of Tarantino of somebody who correctly leverages an "R" brand - that's part of the allure.

When it get's misused, it does so in two ways. You see studios sort of dance around violence, sort of getting away with "R-lite." Or you see CGI-d blood and other ridiculousness used to obtain an R or unrated directors cut. The problem isn't the level of violence - it's that the other aspects of the movie aren't that good (just like there are plenty of bad R 80s movies that are best unremembered. And the fetishizing of the R, or level of violence stays as this outdated marketing tool - instead of trying to make a good movie.
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10:05AM on 06/03/2014
PG-13 means it loses the edge. Especially for an R rated franchise. It just screams compromise. I miss when action movies were made for the 17 and up crowd instead of going for the faux grittiness
PG-13 means it loses the edge. Especially for an R rated franchise. It just screams compromise. I miss when action movies were made for the 17 and up crowd instead of going for the faux grittiness
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11:27AM on 06/03/2014
What about "Taken"? How would that be improved by an R-rating. When a franchise goes from R down to PG-13, I agree that's not a good sign, but there's a plethora of awesome/ kickass action films that aren't R, ie- all the Indiana Jones movies (to varying degrees)
What about "Taken"? How would that be improved by an R-rating. When a franchise goes from R down to PG-13, I agree that's not a good sign, but there's a plethora of awesome/ kickass action films that aren't R, ie- all the Indiana Jones movies (to varying degrees)
3:30PM on 06/03/2014
The PG13 version of Taken was an edited down version. The unrated (and had it been rated would have been R) version released on Blu Ray and overseas was what truly made that movie the hit it was.
The PG13 version of Taken was an edited down version. The unrated (and had it been rated would have been R) version released on Blu Ray and overseas was what truly made that movie the hit it was.
7:30PM on 06/03/2014
@ Skynet, so I guess it's crazily huge box office had jack and shit to do with it's success?
@ Skynet, so I guess it's crazily huge box office had jack and shit to do with it's success?
9:23AM on 06/03/2014
There's no doubt that PG-13 gets away with a ton more than we give it credit for. Even if they usually cut away from the money shots. What I think is more offensive about "The Expendables" franchise is that they don't SHOOT those movies to be R-rated. The fans want to see squibs burst and the heroes dropping casual f-bombs. It's what those actors are known for. And it's why "The Expendables" is more of a novelty franchise. They're chasing the money, but because they have such a huge cast they
There's no doubt that PG-13 gets away with a ton more than we give it credit for. Even if they usually cut away from the money shots. What I think is more offensive about "The Expendables" franchise is that they don't SHOOT those movies to be R-rated. The fans want to see squibs burst and the heroes dropping casual f-bombs. It's what those actors are known for. And it's why "The Expendables" is more of a novelty franchise. They're chasing the money, but because they have such a huge cast they could get away with what, individually, Stallone and Schwarzenegger have failed to lately, which is have a big opening for an R-rated action movie.

Now, all evidence points to this latest installment being bigger than its predecessors, and the cast is more impressive on a talent level. If they crafted something a bit more Bourne and a little less Rambo, they could make it a good PG-13 romp. But it'll still lack the kind of excess that old-school fans were looking for.
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8:45AM on 06/03/2014
R rating or not, what it comes down to is a decent story first and the expendables fail in that department so I'm not that torn up about this since I don't have any stakes in the series aside from cheap thrills. Also worth mentioning is that TV is getting away with a crazy amount of violence case in point Hannibal. If you saw the season 2 final it was some of the goriest shit I've seen on TV and it's only rated TV 14, which is the same as a PG-13.
R rating or not, what it comes down to is a decent story first and the expendables fail in that department so I'm not that torn up about this since I don't have any stakes in the series aside from cheap thrills. Also worth mentioning is that TV is getting away with a crazy amount of violence case in point Hannibal. If you saw the season 2 final it was some of the goriest shit I've seen on TV and it's only rated TV 14, which is the same as a PG-13.
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8:41AM on 06/03/2014
The rating matters depending on what the movie is about. I wanted the Expendables franchise to be R rated because of what I saw in Rambo 4 & wanted more. When I saw that the movie was more about fun than bloody serious violence, then I realized that it might be ok going to PG13. The Total Recall and Robocop remakes should have been PG13 because they were made strictly for money purposes and quite frankly sucked. Comic book movies will always be PG13. No TDK would not have been rated R 20 years
The rating matters depending on what the movie is about. I wanted the Expendables franchise to be R rated because of what I saw in Rambo 4 & wanted more. When I saw that the movie was more about fun than bloody serious violence, then I realized that it might be ok going to PG13. The Total Recall and Robocop remakes should have been PG13 because they were made strictly for money purposes and quite frankly sucked. Comic book movies will always be PG13. No TDK would not have been rated R 20 years ago and no most of those 80's and 90's action movies would not be PG13 today, dont try to sell me that argument.
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8:37AM on 06/03/2014
The most recent X-Men movie had a butt shot, f-bomb and limbs being torn apart and piercings (albeit, no blood). It was a great movie...but I remember being a little taken by the F-bomb (as I was when I saw First Class and Wolverine)...not because I was with my 10 year old (obviously even younger for the earlier movies) ...but because there were kids in the audience who were much younger than him. Still, I have no problem with movies being rated 12A (as they are in the UK). Incidentally, I
The most recent X-Men movie had a butt shot, f-bomb and limbs being torn apart and piercings (albeit, no blood). It was a great movie...but I remember being a little taken by the F-bomb (as I was when I saw First Class and Wolverine)...not because I was with my 10 year old (obviously even younger for the earlier movies) ...but because there were kids in the audience who were much younger than him. Still, I have no problem with movies being rated 12A (as they are in the UK). Incidentally, I saw the motion comic Ultimate Wolverine Vs Hulk (what a blast that was!) on Youtube yesterday and afterwards went to check it up on Amazon. In the UK, it's rated 15. It would seem that you can get away with a lot at that rating as well.
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3:25PM on 06/03/2014
To this I just have to say thw movie is rated PG13 ... so if a parent is taking their young child to a PG13 rated comic book movie, they are responsible for allowing their children to see the things that are deemed suitable for a 13 year old or older. A person in 8th or 9th grade can handle the word Fuck and a quick butt shot and the violence shown without the gore... a 7 year old should not be watching a movie designated suitable for a person nearly twice their age!
To this I just have to say thw movie is rated PG13 ... so if a parent is taking their young child to a PG13 rated comic book movie, they are responsible for allowing their children to see the things that are deemed suitable for a 13 year old or older. A person in 8th or 9th grade can handle the word Fuck and a quick butt shot and the violence shown without the gore... a 7 year old should not be watching a movie designated suitable for a person nearly twice their age!
7:07AM on 06/03/2014

Rating doesnt matter!

Ive been saying it for years, PG-13 or R, its all about the content baby! Robocop remake flopped not because of its PG-13 rating, but because it sucked! Expendables 2 should have been PG-13, that shitty CGI blood they added looked fake and really would have been better without it.
That said, Expendibles 3 should be R, not because of their version of violence and language but because it should of been written with those great 80s/90s action movies in mind. I want "FUCK FUCK FUCK" witty
Ive been saying it for years, PG-13 or R, its all about the content baby! Robocop remake flopped not because of its PG-13 rating, but because it sucked! Expendables 2 should have been PG-13, that shitty CGI blood they added looked fake and really would have been better without it.
That said, Expendibles 3 should be R, not because of their version of violence and language but because it should of been written with those great 80s/90s action movies in mind. I want "FUCK FUCK FUCK" witty bantering, i want blood (not CGI, REAL effects). Take some notes from the Raid if you have any questions about how to properly film an action sequence.
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6:04AM on 06/03/2014
I don't believe in writing off a movie just because it's not rated R. I think that films predicated on gore, violence or sex should be R-rated. PG-13 horror films and PG-13 teen sex comedies seem more out of place to me than PG-13 action movies. Also, just as a horror movie can technically work with little gore, I don't mind bloodless comic book action violence in my action movies. G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra was a movie made to sell toys, so I was a little shocked by the violence in that film (a
I don't believe in writing off a movie just because it's not rated R. I think that films predicated on gore, violence or sex should be R-rated. PG-13 horror films and PG-13 teen sex comedies seem more out of place to me than PG-13 action movies. Also, just as a horror movie can technically work with little gore, I don't mind bloodless comic book action violence in my action movies. G.I. Joe: Rise of Cobra was a movie made to sell toys, so I was a little shocked by the violence in that film (a Cobra soldier gets impaled with a forklift). I think that a lot of PG-13 films really do push the boundaries when it comes to violence and that American society as a whole is a lot more squeamish around sex than around violence. Edge of Tomorrow is PG-13 and (slight spoilers) Tom Cruise's first death involves his face completely melting off.
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5:45AM on 06/03/2014
I don't know. Nowadays it's hard to tell as the line between PG-13 and R are very blurred. The new Robocop has so much gun fighting and all around violence and Robocop's "Disassembling" scene, yet it received PG-13. If I was a kid, that "Disassembling" scene would give me quite a fright. So the line is very blurred.
I don't know. Nowadays it's hard to tell as the line between PG-13 and R are very blurred. The new Robocop has so much gun fighting and all around violence and Robocop's "Disassembling" scene, yet it received PG-13. If I was a kid, that "Disassembling" scene would give me quite a fright. So the line is very blurred.
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4:27AM on 06/03/2014
The PG-13 allows merely the ILLUSION of violence. Why the hell do you think shaky cam is so prevalent? Because they gotta shake that camera like a mother fucker to avoid lingering on the violence and getting slapped with an R. You miss out on the seamless opera of violence conducted in The Raid movies, for example. Why the fuck would anybody go to the cinemas when they can get more realistic action in your average TV-14 television episode?

And you lose a LOT in the language department. Man,
The PG-13 allows merely the ILLUSION of violence. Why the hell do you think shaky cam is so prevalent? Because they gotta shake that camera like a mother fucker to avoid lingering on the violence and getting slapped with an R. You miss out on the seamless opera of violence conducted in The Raid movies, for example. Why the fuck would anybody go to the cinemas when they can get more realistic action in your average TV-14 television episode?

And you lose a LOT in the language department. Man, fuck that noise. The salty language gave flicks like Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Last Boy Scout so much fucking juice.

Don't assemble the hardest, meanest mofos from 80s/90s and plunk them in a PG-13 flick. Who does that?!
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3:08AM on 06/03/2014
I actually completely agree with this article. I don't think action flicks NEED an R rating, but some would benefit. Seriously, Wolverine can ram his claws into people as long as there's no blood & gore & still get a PG13 rating. There's a lot that can go into a PG13 flick short of lots of nudity, sex, gore & F bombs. It can still make for a damn good movie.
I actually completely agree with this article. I don't think action flicks NEED an R rating, but some would benefit. Seriously, Wolverine can ram his claws into people as long as there's no blood & gore & still get a PG13 rating. There's a lot that can go into a PG13 flick short of lots of nudity, sex, gore & F bombs. It can still make for a damn good movie.
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2:41AM on 06/03/2014

I agree

I think you can get away with a lot more with a Pg-13 rating these days. I was watching Days of Future Past the other weekend (slight SPOILER?), and in the opening scene in the future when there were piles upon piles of corpses sliding down a garbage chute, I couldn't help but think "I wonder how hard they had to fight to keep something like that in there".
I think you can get away with a lot more with a Pg-13 rating these days. I was watching Days of Future Past the other weekend (slight SPOILER?), and in the opening scene in the future when there were piles upon piles of corpses sliding down a garbage chute, I couldn't help but think "I wonder how hard they had to fight to keep something like that in there".
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2:43AM on 06/03/2014
Now that I think about it, as I was watching the movie in the theatre this mom and dad and little kid who was probably around 8 or 9 left about 30 minutes into the film. Their loss, I guess.
Now that I think about it, as I was watching the movie in the theatre this mom and dad and little kid who was probably around 8 or 9 left about 30 minutes into the film. Their loss, I guess.
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