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09.04.2012

In 2008, author Michael Crichton passed away, leaving behind a legacy of both tapped and untapped material that will long outlast many of us.  One of those properties is JURASSIC PARK, a novel that sailed to the screen under director Steven Spielberg’s guidance, creating an epic “JAWS on land” dinosaur pic for the ages.  The film didn’t adhere strictly to Crichton’s novel (which is far superior to the movie), but managed to be one of the most groundbreaking sci-fi/adventure pics ever made, paving the way for what should’ve been a regular stream of like-minded entries.

In 1997, Spielberg again pillaged the pages of Crichton’s sequel, THE LOST WORLD: JURASSIC PARK, making a kinda-sorta adaptation of the book, but injecting a heavy dose of Spielbergian gobbledygook to make it more in line with his sensibilities.  The film was a hit nonetheless, as it had plenty of T-Rex and Raptor action, plus Jeff Goldblum’s deadpan humor to carry it to the top.  While not as masterful as the first film, it delivered enough thrills and fun to warrant another trek to the big screen.

The least appetizing of the bunch came in the form of 2001’s JURASSIC PARK 3, this time with Spielberg handing the directing reigns over to Joe Johnston (THE ROCKETEER) and dusting off Sam Neill to reprise his role as Dr. Alan Grant (who was absent from THE LOST WORLD).  Despite his presence, the film didn’t pack the same punch as the previous entries, yet still managed to be a worthwhile vacation to a land where dinosaurs still live and breathe.  Even at its weakest, the JURASSIC PARK franchise still showed that it had wings. 

More than 11 years later we still haven’t seen a sequel, but have had a cavalcade of rumors, including reboots, false starts, new trilogies, and even weaponized dinos.  The most recent news has come from producer Frank Marshall, who said the film is “moving forward,” which is the equivalent of saying absolutely nothing.  The most promising news was the apparent hiring of Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver (RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES) to pen a new script for the fourth film, but it’s not the first time someone’s been tapped for the gig.  Many have already tried and failed.

So, what’s the deal?  1993’s JURASSIC PARK proved that dinosaurs could “convincingly” roam the Earth again, something that’s been replicated in many lesser films (JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH, LAND OF THE LOST) since then. CGI technology hasn’t exactly taken a step back in evolution either.  The effects get better and better each year, which also makes it much more affordable to make top-notch CGI (and practical) effects come to life. 

These are dinosaurs we’re talking about here.  Running around, terrorizing scientists and average folk, while wreaking havoc on everything around them.  As kids we’re inundated with dinosaurs, these long forgotten monsters that once owned the planet, creating an awe-stricken lore that stays with most of us forever.  JURASSIC PARK brought that childhood fascination to life in a way we’d never seen, coupled with the tech wizardry of Crichton and the spectacle savvy of Spielberg, it was like watching these childhood “myths” come to life.  There’s no mystery as to the allure of dinosaurs, but there’s plenty left to the question of why the hell they haven’t graced the screen under the JURASSIC PARK logo since 2001. 

Some would argue that there’s nowhere left to go; the “don’t f*ck with nature” thing has run it’s course and “how many times can you watch a dinosaur chase someone?”  Well, I have an answer: As many times as they put it onscreen!  Look, some people may not give a shit about JURASSIC PARK, but I think they’d be in the minority.  Watching well-rendered (CGI or otherwise) dinos chase modern-day humans never gets boring.  The story could be weak sauce or the actors may not sell it well, but dinos chasing humans? It’s like those Funniest Home Videos of the dad getting hit in the balls by his kid.  Never gets old.

The stop and go of this franchise has been a bigger mystery than the disappearance of the dinosaur’s altogether (Okay, maybe not THAT big, but still…). I just can’t seem to grasp why it would take 11 years to come up with a good idea to have man fighting dinosaurs again.  It’s not a fine wine.  It’s not politically “too soon”.  It no longer has to live up to an already published work.  It’s fair f*cking game!  At this point you could round up the cast of the prior JURASSIC PARK films, put them in an open field with a hundred different dinosaurs facing them and call “action!”  Instant box office smash!

Even now, with Marshall saying that another one is “years” away, the prospect of seeing another JP showdown is still in doubt.  Perhaps the release of JURASSIC PARK 3D next year is a test bed for whether or not folks want to see more, which is just silly.  Of course they do! There’s hundreds of story directions to go in, a bevy of talent to choose from, a franchise firmly rooted in multiple generation’s brains, and, you guessed it; dinosaurs.   We’re not reinventing the wheel, just resurrecting some old inhabitants for some simple man vs. nature thrills.  Is that so hard?   

Extra Tidbit: Let's hear you idea for a fourth film! Here's mine: Lex and Tim would both team up to save Dr. Malcolm and Dr. Grant, who were working to stop a massive migration of dinos from Central America to North America, which could potentially make dinosaurs rule the earth again. Heavy mix of action/tech with Neill Blomkamp directing. Now, it's your turn!
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8:49AM on 09/05/2012

My idea

They bring dinos to all over the world to big parks, & then in coordinated attack the terrorist organization known as PETA releases them so they can live free, & the first ones to die are PETA members, which after dinos wreck havoc & old cast saves the day somehow.

Yeah, i'm still in 4 more :)
They bring dinos to all over the world to big parks, & then in coordinated attack the terrorist organization known as PETA releases them so they can live free, & the first ones to die are PETA members, which after dinos wreck havoc & old cast saves the day somehow.

Yeah, i'm still in 4 more :)
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11:36PM on 09/05/2012
That could work except they had a similar plot in part 2.
That could work except they had a similar plot in part 2.
7:45AM on 09/05/2012
That's a big YES!!! I love the entire trilogy. I just watched it again a few months ago. I don't give a damn about the weak points of the films. I actually really enjoyed part 3 - it was and still is a fun thrill ride for me. I have been wanting a part 4 for a long time. Bring back the core characters and delve into more of the scientific aspects of the story and of course have the dinos cause lots of havoc. I got over the fact the none of the movies are like the books (especially The
That's a big YES!!! I love the entire trilogy. I just watched it again a few months ago. I don't give a damn about the weak points of the films. I actually really enjoyed part 3 - it was and still is a fun thrill ride for me. I have been wanting a part 4 for a long time. Bring back the core characters and delve into more of the scientific aspects of the story and of course have the dinos cause lots of havoc. I got over the fact the none of the movies are like the books (especially The Lost World, even though the original strays pretty far away from the book), and I just enjoy them as fun movies.
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7:02AM on 09/05/2012

The magic is gone

Sorry, I can't agree to JP4. The real magic was in Crichton's vision. The book was a groundbreaker, and the movie did enough justice to it to capture the book's magic. The sequel book was equally good, but the movie diverged from it too much, and the franchise just kinda went downhill from there. I can't see how milking a dead franchise for a 4th installment is a good idea.
Sorry, I can't agree to JP4. The real magic was in Crichton's vision. The book was a groundbreaker, and the movie did enough justice to it to capture the book's magic. The sequel book was equally good, but the movie diverged from it too much, and the franchise just kinda went downhill from there. I can't see how milking a dead franchise for a 4th installment is a good idea.
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12:37AM on 09/05/2012
I don't have a problem with dinosaurs. But Jurassic Park has run its course in my view. There is no reason to bring it back unless Universal thinks we need a reboot. Which we don't. But then again, that's not my call. But Spielberg and Marshall and the rest should steer clear in my opinion.
I don't have a problem with dinosaurs. But Jurassic Park has run its course in my view. There is no reason to bring it back unless Universal thinks we need a reboot. Which we don't. But then again, that's not my call. But Spielberg and Marshall and the rest should steer clear in my opinion.
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10:02PM on 09/04/2012
i dont hav problem for JP4.watchin Dinosaurs in IMAX wud b cool.but Spielberg has brought rights to hell lot of projects to do.i doubt whether he could do all of them in his lifetime!
i dont hav problem for JP4.watchin Dinosaurs in IMAX wud b cool.but Spielberg has brought rights to hell lot of projects to do.i doubt whether he could do all of them in his lifetime!
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9:52PM on 09/04/2012

To tell you the truth....I'm a little taken aback by the forceful negativity of the previous comments

Obviously, I can understand the scepticism from the gradually degrading qualities of Jurassic Park movies, and one can argue that it is indeed a product from the past era....But still, JP series was never like some revered masterpiece which can't be duplicated, its just sheer entertainment. With an appropriate director (why not Spielberg himself, like Jackson returned to Middle Earth after all the drama??) and the return of the cast and most importantly with an ACTUALLY GOOD storyline plus the
Obviously, I can understand the scepticism from the gradually degrading qualities of Jurassic Park movies, and one can argue that it is indeed a product from the past era....But still, JP series was never like some revered masterpiece which can't be duplicated, its just sheer entertainment. With an appropriate director (why not Spielberg himself, like Jackson returned to Middle Earth after all the drama??) and the return of the cast and most importantly with an ACTUALLY GOOD storyline plus the perfect visual effects, another good JP movie is absolutely possible. Maybe besides Paul, I'm just the second person, but by the way Hollywood is throwing godawful remakes and reboots of previous classic films at us left & right, a long doubted sequel of a not-so-great installment of a francise can actually surprise us for a change. Simply put, I never expect any life's inner meaning from this series, just a pleasent thrillriding time-pass. If FAST FIVE can do it, so can the far better Jurassic Park.

As for story, to me it always feels like the enormity of the actual threat of dinos returning to rule the earth NEVER really reached its zenith. In the 1st & 3rd film the threat was contained on an island, and in 2nd it was a single dino wrecking havoc. I think now is the time to unleash the dinos all over the cities and make it a global catastrophe so that the scale would maximize. Offcourse they have to have a decent script and screenplay to work it out, we don't want another TRANSFORMER 2-3 level of mindless chaos.
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9:39PM on 09/04/2012

Jurassic Park 4?

I don't want to see the same ideas rehashed over and over again. The fact is that in real life cloning dinosaurs would be so difficult and impractical that it isn't plausible that when dinosaurs get loose and start eating people that scientists will say "Wow. We didn't see that coming." Jurassic Park and its sequels are kids movies and they are fine the way they are and don't need to be rebooted. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind seeing a whole bunch of sequels to Rise of the Planet of the
I don't want to see the same ideas rehashed over and over again. The fact is that in real life cloning dinosaurs would be so difficult and impractical that it isn't plausible that when dinosaurs get loose and start eating people that scientists will say "Wow. We didn't see that coming." Jurassic Park and its sequels are kids movies and they are fine the way they are and don't need to be rebooted. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind seeing a whole bunch of sequels to Rise of the Planet of the Apes: people are dying from a virus that makes apes smarter and its all out war between humans and apes. Imagine apes learning to use modern weapons. Most of the apes would have to communicate using sign language though because the ability to speak is something that would develop over generations and not come about simply because the apes got smarter.
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10:42PM on 09/04/2012
Ya know, you could have stopped with the comment about Jurassic Park but then you continued and lost all credibility.
Ya know, you could have stopped with the comment about Jurassic Park but then you continued and lost all credibility.
10:42PM on 09/04/2012
Ya know, you could have stopped with the comment about Jurassic Park but then you continued and lost all credibility.
Ya know, you could have stopped with the comment about Jurassic Park but then you continued and lost all credibility.
7:47PM on 09/04/2012

not a sequel but a cool idea i had

An large and developed island creates dinosaurs which of course get loose and run rampant. So 5-10 years later, the island is completely deserted and overrun by dinosaurs. This differs from JP in that JP takes place in the jungle and my idea would be like dinos running around an overgrown city/suburbs. The movie would follow a group of thieves and treasure hunters who sneak onto the island to rob the deserted houses and businesses, and are ultimately unprepared by the dinosaur forces, along
An large and developed island creates dinosaurs which of course get loose and run rampant. So 5-10 years later, the island is completely deserted and overrun by dinosaurs. This differs from JP in that JP takes place in the jungle and my idea would be like dinos running around an overgrown city/suburbs. The movie would follow a group of thieves and treasure hunters who sneak onto the island to rob the deserted houses and businesses, and are ultimately unprepared by the dinosaur forces, along with fighting other thieving groups and the military hell bent on stopping unwanted visitors. It's almost like "28 Days Later" with dinosaurs instead of zombies.
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7:44PM on 09/04/2012

I think the whole idea of not messing with nature is MORE prominent today...

Anyways....It's been 11 years since the events on Isla Sorna. Dr. Grant, along with the other survivors of the group that set out to the island in 2001, has signed a confidentiality agreement with the Costa Rican Government and is off traveling the world and doing lectures with a nice settlement to keep quiet. Dr. Malcolm resides in San Diego with Sarah Harding and they both teach at university. With the advancement of technology in the last decade, scientists are able to crack the code of what
Anyways....It's been 11 years since the events on Isla Sorna. Dr. Grant, along with the other survivors of the group that set out to the island in 2001, has signed a confidentiality agreement with the Costa Rican Government and is off traveling the world and doing lectures with a nice settlement to keep quiet. Dr. Malcolm resides in San Diego with Sarah Harding and they both teach at university. With the advancement of technology in the last decade, scientists are able to crack the code of what InGen had figured out so long ago. Still years of research and application can be bypassed with a sample of a living specimen. Dodgson of Biotech is now head of a program that aims to succeed where InGen failed and recreate dinosaurs as they were when they roamed the earth. After years of buying certain officials of the Costa Rican government, Dodgson is able to enter Isla Sorna with a team of mercenaries trained using ruthless tactics to recover Dinosaur eggs of five different species they wish to duplicate. The story starts when John Hammond catches wind of this. Now in his death bed, his last request is for Mr. Dr. Harding (from the first film) along with Henry Wu to inherit Mr. Hammonds' resources and organize a team to intercept Dodgson and stop him at all costs from bringing the dinosaurs into the human world and simply let them be. All the while there have been sightings in the mainland of Costa Rica of strange animals who seem to have a liking for foods with amino acids and are destroying farmers crops. Something may have survived....cue creepy music intro from first movie....(So basically the plot of the second book with different characters being tied into the universe of the films)
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11:18PM on 09/04/2012
You're already on a better track than they were with the second (which wouldn't have been the case had they followed Crichton's novel more closely). I think the science of JP is one of the most interesting aspects and should be played up (as in the first film) rather than played down (as in the third).
You're already on a better track than they were with the second (which wouldn't have been the case had they followed Crichton's novel more closely). I think the science of JP is one of the most interesting aspects and should be played up (as in the first film) rather than played down (as in the third).
7:38PM on 09/04/2012
Like many kids, I had a huge dinosaur phase growing up and loved all things dinos, and Jurassic Park was the hugest part of that. I'm a mite younger than most schmoes who've posted here, and clearly remember going to see Jurassic Park III with my Dad in the cinema when I was 8 years old. Of course, it is the weakest of the three, but to me at the time it was the greatest thing. My heart just stopped when the skeleton fell out of the tree! I would really love to see a fourth film, no matter how
Like many kids, I had a huge dinosaur phase growing up and loved all things dinos, and Jurassic Park was the hugest part of that. I'm a mite younger than most schmoes who've posted here, and clearly remember going to see Jurassic Park III with my Dad in the cinema when I was 8 years old. Of course, it is the weakest of the three, but to me at the time it was the greatest thing. My heart just stopped when the skeleton fell out of the tree! I would really love to see a fourth film, no matter how many may think it's a cash grab. I just think that the possibilities for new stories, especially ones involving some or all of the original characters, are endless, and I would readily jump back into that world and become 8-year-old me again!
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7:09PM on 09/04/2012
Jurassic Park is my favorite film of all time and the reason I first got interested in movies. I enjoy the sequels for a fun time, but they don't match the magic of the first film. In theory, I'd love a sequel, but just one more to send the series out on a high note. However, a good story has yet to be written and none of the ideas sound that good. Dinos taking over the mainland just seems like it will be '98 Godzilla or something.
If I had to write a sequel, I would say that the government
Jurassic Park is my favorite film of all time and the reason I first got interested in movies. I enjoy the sequels for a fun time, but they don't match the magic of the first film. In theory, I'd love a sequel, but just one more to send the series out on a high note. However, a good story has yet to be written and none of the ideas sound that good. Dinos taking over the mainland just seems like it will be '98 Godzilla or something.
If I had to write a sequel, I would say that the government finds out that the first island (Isla Nublar, not Isla Sorna from the sequels), was never destoryed and some war criminals have been hiding out there. They need people with experience with the Island and dinosaurs to navigate them to catch the criminals. Bring back Neill and Goldblum and some of the other cast (Dern and Moore if possible). Plus I think it would be cool to revisit the island from the first film, now over run by nature and dinos. Anyway, its not great, but thats why JP4 hasn't happened yet. Honestly, I'd prefer no sequel over some awful cash grab.
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6:58PM on 09/04/2012
Jurassic Park is one of my favorite movies of all time. The Lost World was good, not great. And the third one was terrible. That said, I would be all for another JP movie, whether it's a reboot or a sequel.
Jurassic Park is one of my favorite movies of all time. The Lost World was good, not great. And the third one was terrible. That said, I would be all for another JP movie, whether it's a reboot or a sequel.
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6:56PM on 09/04/2012

Aquatic dinosaurs, damn it!

That's the only way to go.

I'd have it similar to "Lost World" where INGEN wants to create an underwater amusement park with dinosaurs and have been migrating/smuggling dinosaurs off the islands of Isla Sorna and Isla Nublar. Bring either new people or our old heroes from the first film and then end the franchise for good.
That's the only way to go.

I'd have it similar to "Lost World" where INGEN wants to create an underwater amusement park with dinosaurs and have been migrating/smuggling dinosaurs off the islands of Isla Sorna and Isla Nublar. Bring either new people or our old heroes from the first film and then end the franchise for good.
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6:10PM on 09/04/2012

eek

Geez, be careful what you wish for. I wouldn't mind another JP but I don't want them just throwing anything on the screen! I don't think that should ever, EVER, be the thought process, otherwise you end up with shit like Transformers 2. I know some people like Transformers 2 but I rather have Tyler Durden cut my balls off than watch that again.

The problem with dinosaurs is that it sounds great but it's difficult to pull off. Like Alien vs Predators sounds great, it still sounds great, even
Geez, be careful what you wish for. I wouldn't mind another JP but I don't want them just throwing anything on the screen! I don't think that should ever, EVER, be the thought process, otherwise you end up with shit like Transformers 2. I know some people like Transformers 2 but I rather have Tyler Durden cut my balls off than watch that again.

The problem with dinosaurs is that it sounds great but it's difficult to pull off. Like Alien vs Predators sounds great, it still sounds great, even two crappy movies later, but the truth is it isn't that great.
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6:06PM on 09/04/2012
Paul, is the article's image from Gammarauders? From where did you get the image? Would cyborg dinosaurs re-invent the Jurassic Park franchise well?
Paul, is the article's image from Gammarauders? From where did you get the image? Would cyborg dinosaurs re-invent the Jurassic Park franchise well?
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7:25PM on 09/04/2012
@grelber37, those are the one, the only, Dino Riders!!! Of which I'd FULLY SUPPORT seeing a live-action cheese fest. Just without Shia Lebeouf.
@grelber37, those are the one, the only, Dino Riders!!! Of which I'd FULLY SUPPORT seeing a live-action cheese fest. Just without Shia Lebeouf.
6:06PM on 09/04/2012
I say let JURASSIC PARK rest until someone comes along and faithfully reboots the franchise closer to the source material (not that I didn't love the first one, and I even enjoyed the second).

I say, with all these childhood properties being rehashed into modern films, it's time for a DINOSAUCERS movie. C'mon...I'd pay money to watch that. I can't be the only one that remembers this show.

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I say let JURASSIC PARK rest until someone comes along and faithfully reboots the franchise closer to the source material (not that I didn't love the first one, and I even enjoyed the second).

I say, with all these childhood properties being rehashed into modern films, it's time for a DINOSAUCERS movie. C'mon...I'd pay money to watch that. I can't be the only one that remembers this show.

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6:00PM on 09/04/2012
I say let JURASSIC PARK rest until someone comes along and faithfully reboots the franchise closer to the source material (not that I didn't love the first one, and I even enjoyed the second).

I say, with all these childhood properties being rehashed into modern films, it's time for a DINOSAUCERS movie. C'mon...I'd pay money to watch that. I can't be the only one that remembers this show.

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I say let JURASSIC PARK rest until someone comes along and faithfully reboots the franchise closer to the source material (not that I didn't love the first one, and I even enjoyed the second).

I say, with all these childhood properties being rehashed into modern films, it's time for a DINOSAUCERS movie. C'mon...I'd pay money to watch that. I can't be the only one that remembers this show.

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5:53PM on 09/04/2012
I say let JURASSIC PARK rest until someone comes along and faithfully reboots the franchise closer to the source material (not that I didn't love the first one, and I even enjoyed the second).

I say, with all these childhood properties being rehashed into modern films, it's time for a DINOSAUCERS movie. C'mon...I'd pay money to watch that. I can't be the only one that remembers this show.

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I say let JURASSIC PARK rest until someone comes along and faithfully reboots the franchise closer to the source material (not that I didn't love the first one, and I even enjoyed the second).

I say, with all these childhood properties being rehashed into modern films, it's time for a DINOSAUCERS movie. C'mon...I'd pay money to watch that. I can't be the only one that remembers this show.

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5:16PM on 09/04/2012
C'mon JoBlo, who the hell cares or wants Jurassic Park 4?
C'mon JoBlo, who the hell cares or wants Jurassic Park 4?
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5:16PM on 09/04/2012
C'mon JoBlo, who the hell cares or wants Jurassic Park 4?
C'mon JoBlo, who the hell cares or wants Jurassic Park 4?
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5:17PM on 09/04/2012
At least two of us.
At least two of us.
4:48PM on 09/04/2012

You sure??

1st was absolutely amazing. Iconic, even. A gem. 2nd was worse, the plot was full of unnecessary tree-huggery, "green" environmentalism, and a T-rex let loose in san diego (alright, that last one was pretty freakin cool). not great, but an okay sequel. 3rd one was just awful. Bad acting, boring been-there, done-that story. And yet you're complaining that a fourth movie hasnt been made yet? let me ask you, are you sure you want another one? why does there HAVE to be a 4th? heck, there didn't
1st was absolutely amazing. Iconic, even. A gem. 2nd was worse, the plot was full of unnecessary tree-huggery, "green" environmentalism, and a T-rex let loose in san diego (alright, that last one was pretty freakin cool). not great, but an okay sequel. 3rd one was just awful. Bad acting, boring been-there, done-that story. And yet you're complaining that a fourth movie hasnt been made yet? let me ask you, are you sure you want another one? why does there HAVE to be a 4th? heck, there didn't even have to be a 3rd one. Paul, you basically admitted you don't care for a plot or decent acting, you just want dinos. Well, go watch that stupid "Dinotopia" mini-series that was on abc years ago. bad acting, bad plot, bad cgi. but hey, dinos! Honestly, I'm hoping these rumors of a 4th film don't ever come true. The damage has already been done with a 3rd movie. Just let the Jurassic Park legacy remain intact. Enough with screwing with great franchises by adding unnecessary sequels (Bourne Legacy, Avatar sequels, Indiana Jones 4, i'm looking at you!) Just....let it be please.
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5:16PM on 09/04/2012
I don't "basically" admit shit. I write full confessions. The point is simple enough, though, and you've provided an excellent example: Dinotopia. Absolutely horrific, yet they still were able to muster something up. JURASSIC PARK has a a solid foundation laid out by Michael Crichton with massive potential. Spielberg's films (and even Johnston's) were mega buck hits, even if they got worse as they went on, so the point is that with a firmly established brand and proven box office stamina,
I don't "basically" admit shit. I write full confessions. The point is simple enough, though, and you've provided an excellent example: Dinotopia. Absolutely horrific, yet they still were able to muster something up. JURASSIC PARK has a a solid foundation laid out by Michael Crichton with massive potential. Spielberg's films (and even Johnston's) were mega buck hits, even if they got worse as they went on, so the point is that with a firmly established brand and proven box office stamina, I fail to see why the best and brightest couldn't conjure up something great and continue the story.

It just comes down to whether or not you dig the characters and the sci-fi tech that Crichton created, which is really the backbone of the series. With the effects being what they are today, how the hell could you not want to see some dino destruction? I'd much rather see it in a JURASSIC PARK film than a Land of the Lost, which was mildly torturous save for that damned T-Rex. And Danny McBride.
7:29PM on 09/04/2012
alright, you "confessed" that you prefer cgi dinosaur mayhem over a good story and good acting. I'm completely going out on a limb here, but I'd guess that that means all 3 transformer movies and Sam Worthington's "Titans" movies are more your cup of tea, and thats perfectly fine. But with Dinotopia, sure they mustered something up. But it was completely awful. They don't get points in my book for simply mustering something up, they get points for making a quality tv show/movie. You make some
alright, you "confessed" that you prefer cgi dinosaur mayhem over a good story and good acting. I'm completely going out on a limb here, but I'd guess that that means all 3 transformer movies and Sam Worthington's "Titans" movies are more your cup of tea, and thats perfectly fine. But with Dinotopia, sure they mustered something up. But it was completely awful. They don't get points in my book for simply mustering something up, they get points for making a quality tv show/movie. You make some good points, Crichton definitely set up something special that has the potential to be revisited in yet another sequel (or even 2). But it seems like you keep coming back to the fact that the effects would make it look cool, and that's why they should do it, story and plot be damned. I just don't agree. MAYBE if they come up with a serviceable plot and bring back some major characters from the other movies, I might change my mind. But lets face it, Spielberg doesn't have a good track record when it comes to being involved in sequels that remain at least somewhat good compared to the original movie. This is a franchise that the majority here seems to agree that gets worse with each movie. When will enough sequels be enough?
11:15PM on 09/04/2012
@SauraonsBANE...I'm fighting for Crichton's work coupled with Spielberg's sense of wonder in a sequel...not something just thrown together. And NEVER did I say/confess that I prefer mayhem over story/acting, only that it never gets old watching people be chased by dinos. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be a good story/acting, only that people being chased by dino's never gets old. See the difference?

Don't confuse the point, which is that we get tons of crap on the reg, so it is
@SauraonsBANE...I'm fighting for Crichton's work coupled with Spielberg's sense of wonder in a sequel...not something just thrown together. And NEVER did I say/confess that I prefer mayhem over story/acting, only that it never gets old watching people be chased by dinos. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be a good story/acting, only that people being chased by dino's never gets old. See the difference?

Don't confuse the point, which is that we get tons of crap on the reg, so it is baffling to me that a Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y JP movie hasn't found its way to the screen in eleven years. It seems insane given the garbage we endure (Battleship, Green Lantern, etc).

The story is a foregone conclusion; of course we need a good one (and I stand by my example in the tidbit). JP3 all but gave up on Crichton's sci-fi/tech universe, which put the series on the wrong track. Transformers is a very similar concept to JP in that they got worse with each iteration. I haven't seen Wrath of the Titans (and am in no hurry) so I can't comment on that one.

Make no mistake; story first. Solid acting a given. Spectacle on order. I think we're on the same sheet of music, but the wires are getting crossed. I'm my JP4 came to the big screen I would buy you some popcorn and a soda and we would enjoy the shit out of it together. Unless Brett Ratner directed it. Then, we'd be fucked and I'd go hide under a rock.
11:47AM on 09/05/2012
To borrow a phrase from Faramir from LOTR, I think Paul, that we finally understand each other. Definitely appreciate having a calm discussion about something with someone over the internet without it turning into a troll-fest, so thank you! If/when JP4 comes out, you need to write up a review and we can finally see whether we both liked it or not!
To borrow a phrase from Faramir from LOTR, I think Paul, that we finally understand each other. Definitely appreciate having a calm discussion about something with someone over the internet without it turning into a troll-fest, so thank you! If/when JP4 comes out, you need to write up a review and we can finally see whether we both liked it or not!
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3:20PM on 09/04/2012
Fuck Jurassic Park 4, give us DinoRiders.
Fuck Jurassic Park 4, give us DinoRiders.
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3:11PM on 09/04/2012
I think there definitely are places another sequel could go. I'd like them to put more brains into the story and characters. I think that's one of the reasons we haven't seen much of this franchise. They never really built the world of InGen and the characters well enough to keep the story going.

I think the next sequel should really focus on the dinos migrating to central America. We see some of that in the original novel. That brings in all sorts of factors into the equation: innocent
I think there definitely are places another sequel could go. I'd like them to put more brains into the story and characters. I think that's one of the reasons we haven't seen much of this franchise. They never really built the world of InGen and the characters well enough to keep the story going.

I think the next sequel should really focus on the dinos migrating to central America. We see some of that in the original novel. That brings in all sorts of factors into the equation: innocent people, scientists, environmentalists, police, armies, international politics. There's so much there to layer underneath the basic thrills of people being chased by monsters.
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12:49PM on 09/04/2012
I think we need a fresh start on Dinosaurs movie. Why isn't there Cadillacs and Dinosaurs movie already? I'd never know. If done right, it could be a cross between Jurassic Park and Mad Max.
I think we need a fresh start on Dinosaurs movie. Why isn't there Cadillacs and Dinosaurs movie already? I'd never know. If done right, it could be a cross between Jurassic Park and Mad Max.
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11:37AM on 09/04/2012
The Jurassic Park movies were films of an era that has past. They were visually fantastic, but I'll be honest, they never really left an impression on me with characters, plot progression, or dialog. A lot of that has to do with the fact neither Crichton nor especially David Koepp could write a memorable character to save their life.

Maybe its just me, but Jurassic Park hasn't aged terribly well in my mind like other Spielberg/Amblin franchises. I'd sooner get psyched about a new Jaws,
The Jurassic Park movies were films of an era that has past. They were visually fantastic, but I'll be honest, they never really left an impression on me with characters, plot progression, or dialog. A lot of that has to do with the fact neither Crichton nor especially David Koepp could write a memorable character to save their life.

Maybe its just me, but Jurassic Park hasn't aged terribly well in my mind like other Spielberg/Amblin franchises. I'd sooner get psyched about a new Jaws, Gremlins, or Back to the Future movie.

But Jurassic Park undeniably launched a revolution in film-making towards the CGI-infused epics we now all take for granted. Both good (Avatar, Avengers, Lord of the Rings) and bad (every Michael Bay and Roland Emmerich film.) Which is actually a little sad because 20-years later the things that still impress the hell out of me are those big Stan Winston animatronics.

So if they wanna bring back Jurassic Park...they have to go BIG. New technology, new story, new direction. If they're just going to make another tired CGI cashgrab...then fuck that.

Oh and hey...y'all wanna feel old? Lex turns 33 next week.
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11:34AM on 09/04/2012

I say...

C'mon Hollywood, please don't do a JP4. If Spielberg, himself, couldn't make a sequel worth enjoying, then no one can.
C'mon Hollywood, please don't do a JP4. If Spielberg, himself, couldn't make a sequel worth enjoying, then no one can.
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11:10AM on 09/04/2012
2 was bad and 3 sucked, so why on earth would you want another one???
2 was bad and 3 sucked, so why on earth would you want another one???
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11:03AM on 09/04/2012

Nope...I"m good...

yeah, they were treats for the eyes to behold the first time, but no thanks, not interested
yeah, they were treats for the eyes to behold the first time, but no thanks, not interested
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10:40AM on 09/04/2012

This is one of those times where I think a reboot would be ok.

I mean there's some pretty big differences between the books and the films (aside from oh shi dinosaurs on the loose), so there's plenty of new places to go. But please please please stick to animatronics and only using CGI for the wide angles, those puppets were half of why those movies were effective.
Btw I've had a picture of Jeff Goldblum sitting in a chair like a pimp for Life Aquatic as my desktop wallpaper for years, I may finally change it to that Jeff Goldblum picture. Hot damn.
I mean there's some pretty big differences between the books and the films (aside from oh shi dinosaurs on the loose), so there's plenty of new places to go. But please please please stick to animatronics and only using CGI for the wide angles, those puppets were half of why those movies were effective.
Btw I've had a picture of Jeff Goldblum sitting in a chair like a pimp for Life Aquatic as my desktop wallpaper for years, I may finally change it to that Jeff Goldblum picture. Hot damn.
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