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01.03.2013

Well, this one walks the line of "cool" in terms of Cool Videos, but it's something worth sharing regardless.  It's most definitely controversial and could be potentially offensive, depending on your own views.  That said, I think it's worth sharing as it's rather hard to dispute once you see the evidence. But, I'll leave that up to you.

As is usually the case after a tragedy, such as the recent shooting violence in the U.S., celebrities have rallied together for a talking head PSA telling you exactly what you should be doing in the wake of such an event.  The movement is called Demand A Plan and is headed by 800 mayors across the U.S. to come up with a plan to end gun violence.  Their spokespeople? Everyone from DJANGO UNCHAINED star Jamie Foxx, THE BOURNE LEGACY's Jeremy Renner, THE TOWN's Jon Hamm, and numerous others, including Paul Rudd, Will Ferrell, Amy Poehler, Nick Offerman, Peter Dinklage, Reese Witherspoon, Sarah Silverman, Adam Scott, Cameron Diaz, and more.

Then, YouTube uploader "Mike Hunt" (not to be confused with Haywood J. Blowmie), a gun rights advocate who claims to have no affiliations, decided to make a few edits to the original PSA (with both a clean and explicit version), the results of which are quite sobering.  It's one thing to have a celebrity advocate for something, but it's another entirely to see them replicating the very actions they wish to stop.  I'll save my own views on the subject and let you guys have at it. 

Demand...hipocrisy?:

“When I first saw the original video plastered on the front-page of Youtube I was immediately struck by the irony of their entire campaign,” said "Hunt" to EW via email. “Here are a bunch of vapid Hollywood celebrities attempting to shame the public into submitting to more gun control. Their entire industry profits from a culture of violence and gun entertainment. I was really surprised at the amount of positive responses and feedback the video has received. Hopefully a few of these ‘stars’ see it and maybe turn the microscope back on their hypocritical industry.”

"Hunt" may be on to something.

Here's the original PSA:

Let's here what you guys think, but please, for the sake of everyone, keep it civilized.

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Extra Tidbit: Would it be better to have real people affected by such violence speak in a PSA like this, rather than celebs who make a living in recreating it? Food for thought.

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3:27AM on 01/05/2013

Double post

Oh and before people call me an idiot, yeah, most of these movies probably were R rated but it is also true that we are more likely to see people getting shot on TV than people making love because the latter actually offends people more than the former.

Hey, if a bunch of celebrities make a PSA about the dangers of unprotected sex is somebody going to re-edit the PSA with a bunch of love scenes with the same celebrities?
Oh and before people call me an idiot, yeah, most of these movies probably were R rated but it is also true that we are more likely to see people getting shot on TV than people making love because the latter actually offends people more than the former.

Hey, if a bunch of celebrities make a PSA about the dangers of unprotected sex is somebody going to re-edit the PSA with a bunch of love scenes with the same celebrities?
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3:17AM on 01/05/2013

Backfired

The original video was just celebrities talking but the re-ediited video hits home. It's one thing to talk about shootings but, my God, enough is enough, maybe we should change the ratings system that gives an automatic R rating to a movie that shows people getting shot. I would much rather see graphic sex in a movie that people getting gunned down. Or I suppose actors could voluntarily decide not to work in films with gun violence, except that would just give them a reputation for being
The original video was just celebrities talking but the re-ediited video hits home. It's one thing to talk about shootings but, my God, enough is enough, maybe we should change the ratings system that gives an automatic R rating to a movie that shows people getting shot. I would much rather see graphic sex in a movie that people getting gunned down. Or I suppose actors could voluntarily decide not to work in films with gun violence, except that would just give them a reputation for being difficult.
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2:56PM on 01/04/2013
I think people are taking this a bit too seriously. As someone who is for more gun control (meaning it's harder to own a gun, NOT that you shouldn't be allowed to,) I thought this video was actually very funny! Regardless if that was the intention or not. I do personally think that it is very, very annoying when they do these bullshit PSAs like this by going "these celebrities agree with us! You should too!" Now I'm getting my politics into this...
I think people are taking this a bit too seriously. As someone who is for more gun control (meaning it's harder to own a gun, NOT that you shouldn't be allowed to,) I thought this video was actually very funny! Regardless if that was the intention or not. I do personally think that it is very, very annoying when they do these bullshit PSAs like this by going "these celebrities agree with us! You should too!" Now I'm getting my politics into this...
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2:52AM on 01/04/2013

So Christian Bale is really Batman?

They're not telling you to use guns, they're just playing characters and acting sh*t out. Is Christian Bale really Batman just because he plays Batman in a bunch of movies? Look, from a guy living outside the States, I can only say that I'm sorry for the heinous events that have taken place and I hope these events don't occur again. But let's be honest, your gun laws are a BIG part of the problem. Preach the constitution and say it's for self-defense all you want; the fact remains that the
They're not telling you to use guns, they're just playing characters and acting sh*t out. Is Christian Bale really Batman just because he plays Batman in a bunch of movies? Look, from a guy living outside the States, I can only say that I'm sorry for the heinous events that have taken place and I hope these events don't occur again. But let's be honest, your gun laws are a BIG part of the problem. Preach the constitution and say it's for self-defense all you want; the fact remains that the surplus of firearms lying around makes it easy for psychopaths and assholes alike to get a hold of them. I live in a country that has gun laws. And although we have a crimerate, they hardly ever involve guns and I can assure you that if we had an open gun law like the States, our crimerates would be much, much higher. Yes, people who want to kill will go beyond the law to get a gun, but they're not going to be able to get them with ease if every 5 out of 10 people didn't own one. That clearly means that half the crimes that happened could have been avoided because the gunman would have resorted to a knife or something with a smaller scope of damage. The fact that the States has f**king lethal weapons lying in people's basements and closets and in storerooms makes it extremely easy for lunatics to get a hold of them, with little to no effort on their part. You need gun laws. Plain and simple. Sorry if I'm speaking my mind without being in the eye of the storm, but those are facts that a lot of people just fail to accept.
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10:11PM on 01/03/2013
Celebrity PSA's in general bother me. They are entertainers, no more, no less. If you want to advance a cause, do it through an appropriate medium, such as you respective art, or through supporting an organization. Do not use your status as a celebrity to advance whatever hot topic cause of the month is. With technology and the speed of information today, we are all capable of knowing what issues exist at any given moment, and do not need to know Jamie Foxx's or any other celebrity's opinion on
Celebrity PSA's in general bother me. They are entertainers, no more, no less. If you want to advance a cause, do it through an appropriate medium, such as you respective art, or through supporting an organization. Do not use your status as a celebrity to advance whatever hot topic cause of the month is. With technology and the speed of information today, we are all capable of knowing what issues exist at any given moment, and do not need to know Jamie Foxx's or any other celebrity's opinion on the matter.

I personally own a few firearms, and although I do not own an assault rifle, many I know do, and never once have any one of them used it in a dangerous or unsafe manner, in fact, they are some of the most responsible people I know when it comes to gun safety. Regardless though, I believe that gun control or any legislation on the matter of mass shootings is merely a band-aid, or medicating a misbehaving child, treating the symptoms and not the underlying issue, anyone that has committed mass shootings or any sort have almost always shown signs beforehand. Maybe we as a people should start paying more attention to each other and less to our phones, tv's, etc, and maybe tragedies can be prevented in the future.
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5:42PM on 01/03/2013
Lousy hypocrites! Shoot 'em all.

Wait, unless there is a difference between fiction and real life. I'm not aware of any but my doctor says I should ask before making snap judgements.
Lousy hypocrites! Shoot 'em all.

Wait, unless there is a difference between fiction and real life. I'm not aware of any but my doctor says I should ask before making snap judgements.
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5:40PM on 01/03/2013
I think the PSA is dumb anyway because the targets of gun control laws, those who own guns, aren't going to give a damn about what Hollywood has to say on the matter anyway. But I think the edited version is just as bad. I think there's supposed to be some message about the connection between Hollywood and gun violence. If the message is that these celebs are hypocrites, then it's a fail message. There is a massive difference between reality and fiction. Human nature is inherently violent.
I think the PSA is dumb anyway because the targets of gun control laws, those who own guns, aren't going to give a damn about what Hollywood has to say on the matter anyway. But I think the edited version is just as bad. I think there's supposed to be some message about the connection between Hollywood and gun violence. If the message is that these celebs are hypocrites, then it's a fail message. There is a massive difference between reality and fiction. Human nature is inherently violent. There needs to be outlets for that violence. Better for those outlets to be fiction than to be reality.
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4:27PM on 01/03/2013

Right...

So if an actor is in a movie that depicts a rape it would be hypocritical of them to shoot a PSA about preventing sexual violence because somehow their movie advocates rape regardless of how the rape is depicted in the film?

If anything this is a pro gun control video because it accurately depicts how anti gun control/gun toting nuts are incapable of separating appropriate gun use from inappropriate gun use, practical firearms from impractical firearms, reality from fiction, and just all
So if an actor is in a movie that depicts a rape it would be hypocritical of them to shoot a PSA about preventing sexual violence because somehow their movie advocates rape regardless of how the rape is depicted in the film?

If anything this is a pro gun control video because it accurately depicts how anti gun control/gun toting nuts are incapable of separating appropriate gun use from inappropriate gun use, practical firearms from impractical firearms, reality from fiction, and just all around basic right from wrong.
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4:38PM on 01/03/2013
Also not a big fan of the actual PSA because I've never really cared for celebrities using their celebrity for any sort of political agenda even if I might happen to agree with it. If you insist on doing so at least give me something substantial to go along with your image. Throw some facts, numbers, theories, ideas at me... don't just try to sell it with your name and face.
Also not a big fan of the actual PSA because I've never really cared for celebrities using their celebrity for any sort of political agenda even if I might happen to agree with it. If you insist on doing so at least give me something substantial to go along with your image. Throw some facts, numbers, theories, ideas at me... don't just try to sell it with your name and face.
5:25PM on 01/03/2013
I completely agree with your second comment. Actors need to learn when to shut their mouths. Especially on an issue like this where most of these people have hired ARMED bodyguards to protect them anyway. I'll tell you what Jaimie Foxx, I'll support everyone turning in their guns when YOU, and all the politicians supporting this law, fire your armed bodyguards as a show of good faith.

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I completely agree with your second comment. Actors need to learn when to shut their mouths. Especially on an issue like this where most of these people have hired ARMED bodyguards to protect them anyway. I'll tell you what Jaimie Foxx, I'll support everyone turning in their guns when YOU, and all the politicians supporting this law, fire your armed bodyguards as a show of good faith.

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4:24PM on 01/03/2013

part of the problem

...is this binary discussion about the issue. People support one side, and hate the other, and that's born out in the differing views of this video. I'm a little more mixed on the issue. I definitely see stars wanting to help raise awareness, while there is a smugness that comes with "using your image" as necessary and sufficient support. Similarly, while there is some hypocrisy there between the message and the violent entertainment, many of the clips were not really supporting gun violence
...is this binary discussion about the issue. People support one side, and hate the other, and that's born out in the differing views of this video. I'm a little more mixed on the issue. I definitely see stars wanting to help raise awareness, while there is a smugness that comes with "using your image" as necessary and sufficient support. Similarly, while there is some hypocrisy there between the message and the violent entertainment, many of the clips were not really supporting gun violence and edited poorly to shoehorn a point. Finally, I see an alternate hypocrisy: gun rights advocates are falling back on defending the 2nd amendment (seeing any federal, state or local regulation as equal to nullifying constitutional rights, which is not accurate from a legal standpoint) - but the argument seems to consist of an assault on second amendment rights. Also - I'm guessing that many gun owners enjoy shoot-em-up violent movies.
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3:52PM on 01/03/2013

This is Beautiful!

This PSA got what it deserved. Gun control is a nice knee jerk reaction. These liberal deuche bags star in movies (which I love) that glorify violence and then jump on the gun control band wagon. Many of these idiots also hire bodyguards to protect them. Also, the 2nd Amendment was not put in place mainly so citizens could protect themselves from criminals. It was actually put it place so citizens could protect themselves from a government that turned to tyranny.
This PSA got what it deserved. Gun control is a nice knee jerk reaction. These liberal deuche bags star in movies (which I love) that glorify violence and then jump on the gun control band wagon. Many of these idiots also hire bodyguards to protect them. Also, the 2nd Amendment was not put in place mainly so citizens could protect themselves from criminals. It was actually put it place so citizens could protect themselves from a government that turned to tyranny.
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4:12PM on 01/03/2013
Seems apparent that many Americans don't or can't fathom a United states where they would ever have to pick up guns and fight a tyrannical government. They think the 2nd amendment is outdated because we're in the clear now. Smooth sailing from here on out. We can all trust our government won't ever do us wrong.
Seems apparent that many Americans don't or can't fathom a United states where they would ever have to pick up guns and fight a tyrannical government. They think the 2nd amendment is outdated because we're in the clear now. Smooth sailing from here on out. We can all trust our government won't ever do us wrong.
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3:49PM on 01/03/2013
Speaking as someone form outside the USA, in a country where we have gun control, we wouldn't want it any other way (most of us that is). It is disturbing to watch what happens in your country, the amount of mass shootings by teenagers, crazies and psychos. In Poland, where I live, I wouldn't even know where to get a gun illegally, or even if I had purchased it on the net for example, I have no idea what would the repercussions be from the Police. Most people have no idea and don't really care.
Speaking as someone form outside the USA, in a country where we have gun control, we wouldn't want it any other way (most of us that is). It is disturbing to watch what happens in your country, the amount of mass shootings by teenagers, crazies and psychos. In Poland, where I live, I wouldn't even know where to get a gun illegally, or even if I had purchased it on the net for example, I have no idea what would the repercussions be from the Police. Most people have no idea and don't really care. And since we don't really need any of that (if you are mugged you have pepper spray or a taser and that's more than enough) we don't even try to get a gun. Only people who were proparly evaluated by the authorities have access to guns. Sure, the mobsters carry guns with them, but frankly they don't use them. You don't hear about mass shootings by the mob, because they have plenty to lose by it. And of course if someone who is crazy, would be very persistent, he could get a hold of a gun somehow and kill a lot of people, but since that never happened here, or didn't happen in a VERY long time, we feel more or less safe, a lot safer than when a bunch of crazies in our country had an easy access to deadly weapons. And yes, we blame the shootings in America on your lack of gun control because we prefer to think that you have worse laws than us than to think that you're worse people than us. Get a grip of yourself, to most of you reading it - you were never attacked at home and you never will, you were probably never mugged, there will be no zombie apocalypse, or any post-apocalypse scenario in our lifetime, so a chance that you would need a gun instead of pepper spray is extremely low.
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4:25PM on 01/03/2013
"so a chance that you would need a gun instead of pepper spray is extremely low."

Definitely lower in countries where criminals don't already have access to weapons, but I see your point. I'll bet the number of muggers with guns in Poland pales in comparison to the amount that are armed in America, so pepper spray won't always do the trick on the streets of New York, compared to the streets of Warszawa.
"so a chance that you would need a gun instead of pepper spray is extremely low."

Definitely lower in countries where criminals don't already have access to weapons, but I see your point. I'll bet the number of muggers with guns in Poland pales in comparison to the amount that are armed in America, so pepper spray won't always do the trick on the streets of New York, compared to the streets of Warszawa.
5:21PM on 01/03/2013
This is not a gun issue though. All these massacres have a traceable connection. These people are mentally unhinged and put on dangerous and sometimes experimental anti-psychotics that have suicidal/homicidal side effects. Humor me and check out this website: [link]
This is not a gun issue though. All these massacres have a traceable connection. These people are mentally unhinged and put on dangerous and sometimes experimental anti-psychotics that have suicidal/homicidal side effects. Humor me and check out this website: [link]
5:57PM on 01/03/2013
Yes, but every country has their psychos and people that are addicted to various substances, yet America has all these massacres that don't occur nowhere nearly as often as in countries with gun control. Of course I'm speaking here of developed countries. There has to be a reason for that and gun control is definitely a good place to start looking for it. You can point to drug usage as one of the cause but you can't tell me that you don't see something strange on this list - the names of
Yes, but every country has their psychos and people that are addicted to various substances, yet America has all these massacres that don't occur nowhere nearly as often as in countries with gun control. Of course I'm speaking here of developed countries. There has to be a reason for that and gun control is definitely a good place to start looking for it. You can point to drug usage as one of the cause but you can't tell me that you don't see something strange on this list - the names of different American states occur on it way more often than the names of other countries. In Poland you can take psychotropic drugs but there is no way you would be able to legally buy a gun in that case. And as I mentioned before, most people here wouldn't even know how to get one illegally.
6:08PM on 01/03/2013
as for Preston_79 - that's one of the problems of not changing an old-fashioned law much earlier. Now your Government is basically stuck, because the guns that have been bought till this day are already out there, "in the wild". It's almost impossible to introduce gun control now, unless you make the possession of guns illegal and start making raids on people's houses which nobody wants to see. Thus to find a solution for you, requires a greater mind then mine, but all I'm saying is you
as for Preston_79 - that's one of the problems of not changing an old-fashioned law much earlier. Now your Government is basically stuck, because the guns that have been bought till this day are already out there, "in the wild". It's almost impossible to introduce gun control now, unless you make the possession of guns illegal and start making raids on people's houses which nobody wants to see. Thus to find a solution for you, requires a greater mind then mine, but all I'm saying is you shouldn't be all "hell no!" to any changes, but start looking at numbers and maybe change your mentality a bit towards the free use of guns and how much good did it really bring you.
3:00PM on 01/04/2013
I'd expect someone living in Poland with even an elementary knowledge of WWII to understand that perhaps firearms could have helped a lot of people when the Nazis invaded. I understand what you're saying about gun deaths in the United States, but the fact of the matter is these numbers are tiny in comparison to other deaths. And if you take away guns, these sick people on drugs will continue to find ways to kill. Including knives. Then what. You want to ban knives too? The whole thing is
I'd expect someone living in Poland with even an elementary knowledge of WWII to understand that perhaps firearms could have helped a lot of people when the Nazis invaded. I understand what you're saying about gun deaths in the United States, but the fact of the matter is these numbers are tiny in comparison to other deaths. And if you take away guns, these sick people on drugs will continue to find ways to kill. Including knives. Then what. You want to ban knives too? The whole thing is fucking silly. Check out atheist Sam Harris' article on Gun Control... it's very well written and will educate some of you overseas people who live in countries with no guns or laws allowing you to own guns... [link]
3:25PM on 01/04/2013
yes, because WWIII is so plausible that we should start preparing and stockpilling automatic guns. It's not the 1940's anymore. Even if it was, there's no way, no matter how many guns I'd have, for me to defend myself against an entire platoon of soldiers. The first thing that an invading army would do is to start disarming the citizens and guess what the citizens would do? They would obay, from fear of escalating the problem with guns. However, like I said, times have changed, it's the year
yes, because WWIII is so plausible that we should start preparing and stockpilling automatic guns. It's not the 1940's anymore. Even if it was, there's no way, no matter how many guns I'd have, for me to defend myself against an entire platoon of soldiers. The first thing that an invading army would do is to start disarming the citizens and guess what the citizens would do? They would obay, from fear of escalating the problem with guns. However, like I said, times have changed, it's the year 2013, so let's talk about real issues and real problems - which are mass killings by psychopaths with easy access to guns.

The article is interesting, but it doesn't sell me on the reason why you should have an unlimited access to guns. Such a status quo only brings tragedies to the many families that had to suffer because of Columbine and many other massacres. The article only gives good arguments when it's saying that it's virtually impossible to introduce gun control in America now, because your entire system is already fucked. That's something that I've already written about to Preston_79. However, I'm not sure that you, as a nation, should be content with no results in this department, just because it would be difficult to change something.

And coming back to your line of thought, having the rights to buy a gun, because you're scared of a global crisis or someone breaking into your house to harm you, is not a rational reaction, it's just paranoia!
3:32PM on 01/04/2013
ohh and once more you're avoiding the real question. You're advocating guns to me because of WWII and god knows what else, but you didn't answer me about the trend that you saw on the link that you, yourself, sent me - which is that the names of American States on that list are way more frequent than the names of other countries. Why is that? Can you seriously not see the connection?
ohh and once more you're avoiding the real question. You're advocating guns to me because of WWII and god knows what else, but you didn't answer me about the trend that you saw on the link that you, yourself, sent me - which is that the names of American States on that list are way more frequent than the names of other countries. Why is that? Can you seriously not see the connection?
2:49PM on 01/03/2013

Seriously?

I'll start off by saying that I am all for gun ownership.

That being said, I believe that no one, outside of the military has a need for, nor should it be legal to own, assault weapons of any kind. The gun control laws of this nation, without question, need to be re-evaluated and certainly tightened.

Now on to the video:

At first glance, it seems to raise a good point. What gives these people the right to demand anything of the sort when nearly all of them have been on television or
I'll start off by saying that I am all for gun ownership.

That being said, I believe that no one, outside of the military has a need for, nor should it be legal to own, assault weapons of any kind. The gun control laws of this nation, without question, need to be re-evaluated and certainly tightened.

Now on to the video:

At first glance, it seems to raise a good point. What gives these people the right to demand anything of the sort when nearly all of them have been on television or in film brutally killing people?

My answer? The same right as I have. Why? Simple. They are actors. Not killers. They perform in films or on television for our entertainment. I would have a problem if the PSA contained known murderers offering the same request, but it does not. Instead, we have actors who we love to watch on television or pay to see in the theater for our own entertainment.

If you think these people really brandish such weapons, as shown in the clips, and go around murdering people then you are the one with the problem. If you have such a problem with them waving their weapons around town in the movies, then don't go to see them. Monitor the sort of programming that your children watch. If you allow them to watch this sort of film, make sure they are aware that it is only make believe. That this sort of behavior is not the socially acceptable thing to do. But don't call these actors hypocrites because they are paid to entertain us with violence yet, in the real world, think that the gun laws of our country are insane.
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1:49PM on 01/03/2013
Well, I am kind of glad someone held a mirror up to that PSA. Particularly with Jamie Foxx being the first celebrity on there. It's rather unfortunate that actors are in such a poor position to talk about issues like this, since the majority earn their living using one in simulations of killing and other violence, at least once in their career. I still think using Parks and Recreation clips was a cheap shot though, as was the scene where Carla Gugino gets murdered in Sin City.

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Well, I am kind of glad someone held a mirror up to that PSA. Particularly with Jamie Foxx being the first celebrity on there. It's rather unfortunate that actors are in such a poor position to talk about issues like this, since the majority earn their living using one in simulations of killing and other violence, at least once in their career. I still think using Parks and Recreation clips was a cheap shot though, as was the scene where Carla Gugino gets murdered in Sin City.

My feelings on the issue are I'm in favor of the assault weapons ban, or extensive background checks in preparation for issuing permits. But I grew up in the country around hunters, where feelings about gun-rights tend to be very different than in suburban and urban areas. Might use a gun to shoot a deer eating your garden, or a fox trying to kill your chickens, instead of some kind of killing spree. Assault weapons seem impractical to me except in combat scenarios.
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1:08PM on 01/03/2013

dont understand the difference

In how people might say that violent movies/games can drive people to be violent, but they never say the same thing after watching a comedy or rom-com. I mean wouldnt watching a rom-com make you want to go out in fall in love and just hug everyone around you if they make you feel that way or a comedy make you laugh at ceratin things rather than be engraged? Apparently movies/music/games can only make people act in a bad way and never good
In how people might say that violent movies/games can drive people to be violent, but they never say the same thing after watching a comedy or rom-com. I mean wouldnt watching a rom-com make you want to go out in fall in love and just hug everyone around you if they make you feel that way or a comedy make you laugh at ceratin things rather than be engraged? Apparently movies/music/games can only make people act in a bad way and never good
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1:39PM on 01/03/2013
Comedies are often funny because they are happening to other people (sort of that not funny now but funny later kind of thing). Rom-coms can be a bad influence, building up impossible expectations in some people. Some comedies play violence for laughs, and they don't get off as easy. It's all sort of bullshit, but the point is most comedies and romance movies don't influence people to kill. And if they do, they do so indirectly, because unlike violent movies they don't as often feature people
Comedies are often funny because they are happening to other people (sort of that not funny now but funny later kind of thing). Rom-coms can be a bad influence, building up impossible expectations in some people. Some comedies play violence for laughs, and they don't get off as easy. It's all sort of bullshit, but the point is most comedies and romance movies don't influence people to kill. And if they do, they do so indirectly, because unlike violent movies they don't as often feature people shooting stuff.
10:54AM on 01/03/2013
I think the PSA would have been just as effective/ineffective had it been done by regular people that had never been involved in a project that glamorized or glorified gun violence, but I don't blame them for making it. This wasn't a PSA that needed to be fast tracked to the airwaves as I believe it does nothing at all to curb gun violence. Just because a celebrity lectures you on something doesn't mean their opinion holds any more weight than an average citizen, especially since Hollywood
I think the PSA would have been just as effective/ineffective had it been done by regular people that had never been involved in a project that glamorized or glorified gun violence, but I don't blame them for making it. This wasn't a PSA that needed to be fast tracked to the airwaves as I believe it does nothing at all to curb gun violence. Just because a celebrity lectures you on something doesn't mean their opinion holds any more weight than an average citizen, especially since Hollywood doesn't represent the rest of the country very well.
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10:53AM on 01/03/2013

Completely ridiculous

Yet again, a pro-gun advocate fails to see the nuance of the debate. It's about gun CONTROL, not a gun BAN. The video also shows many actors dressed as cop and everybody agrees cops should be armed. There's also quite a few actors who are being shot at in their scenes, which is definitely not what you would call a pro-gun message.
Yet again, a pro-gun advocate fails to see the nuance of the debate. It's about gun CONTROL, not a gun BAN. The video also shows many actors dressed as cop and everybody agrees cops should be armed. There's also quite a few actors who are being shot at in their scenes, which is definitely not what you would call a pro-gun message.
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10:26AM on 01/03/2013

*rolls eyes*

Looks to me like another person desperately clinging to his second amendment right to bear arms and doing everything in his power to keep that misconstrued right.
Who gives a fuck if Celebrities made this PSA? The fact is, they're actors, which means, they're condensed into a singular location (Hollywood) and are near cameras. Therefore, this video was able to be made immediately to play on the dramatic issue that was that elementary school shooting. If they got real people to do the PSA,
Looks to me like another person desperately clinging to his second amendment right to bear arms and doing everything in his power to keep that misconstrued right.
Who gives a fuck if Celebrities made this PSA? The fact is, they're actors, which means, they're condensed into a singular location (Hollywood) and are near cameras. Therefore, this video was able to be made immediately to play on the dramatic issue that was that elementary school shooting. If they got real people to do the PSA, it would've taken a good while to get it all together. Cuz families need time to grieve.
No one outside of the US thinks this is a bad idea. Gun control is wise. There are lots of stupid crazy ass people in the world, so, better to not make it easy for them to have guns.
There should be courses, psychological profiles, and education involved. That would do a lot of good. That desperate cling to an out-of-date amendment (Meant originally to give the person the right to bear arms in order to RISE UP AGAINST AN OPPRESSIVE GOVERNMENT -- Good luck with that) is foolish.
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5:11PM on 01/03/2013
"Looks to me like another person desperately clinging to his second amendment right to bear arms" - I wonder will you say the same once people begin attacking other rights or the government decides you don't need those rights and decides to take them away........ You will wish you had a 2nd amendment when this day comes. Sure come back and say that other amendments don't harm people etc etc but once one right is removed, the others start to tumble away much easier......
"Looks to me like another person desperately clinging to his second amendment right to bear arms" - I wonder will you say the same once people begin attacking other rights or the government decides you don't need those rights and decides to take them away........ You will wish you had a 2nd amendment when this day comes. Sure come back and say that other amendments don't harm people etc etc but once one right is removed, the others start to tumble away much easier......
3:27AM on 01/05/2013
@DuncanIdaho, the "right" to be able to kill people indiscriminately is not a fundamental right. It is sad that you think it is. The right to live, however, is a fundamental right and it is a right that the 2nd amendment takes from many Americans.
@DuncanIdaho, the "right" to be able to kill people indiscriminately is not a fundamental right. It is sad that you think it is. The right to live, however, is a fundamental right and it is a right that the 2nd amendment takes from many Americans.
10:21AM on 01/03/2013
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10:13AM on 01/03/2013
I don't blame them for having an opinion on this matter, that's their right. I just don't base my opinions on what actors think, in or out of movies. It's a terrible thing that recently happenned and a lot of people are trying to think of ways to prevent it in the future. I don't believe laws against drugs are effective against drug dealers and I think the same of gun control laws when it comes to murderers. We're all just trying to think of the best course to take, to prevent tragedies like
I don't blame them for having an opinion on this matter, that's their right. I just don't base my opinions on what actors think, in or out of movies. It's a terrible thing that recently happenned and a lot of people are trying to think of ways to prevent it in the future. I don't believe laws against drugs are effective against drug dealers and I think the same of gun control laws when it comes to murderers. We're all just trying to think of the best course to take, to prevent tragedies like this.
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9:27AM on 01/03/2013

The thing is...

Personally, I don't own a gun. That said, I would like to keep the right to own one should I choose to do so. In our town's local paper, someone wrote about the gun control issue and how people wanted to make certain guns illegal. The writer responded by mentioning how we could also wipe out heroin and cocaine by making them illegal. The point is, even if you outlaw certain guns, the criminals are going to find a way to get them, given they already don't respect the law.
It's funny
Personally, I don't own a gun. That said, I would like to keep the right to own one should I choose to do so. In our town's local paper, someone wrote about the gun control issue and how people wanted to make certain guns illegal. The writer responded by mentioning how we could also wipe out heroin and cocaine by making them illegal. The point is, even if you outlaw certain guns, the criminals are going to find a way to get them, given they already don't respect the law.
It's funny how Hollywood practically eliminated smoking from movies because of the health risks associated with smoking. However when it comes to guns, Hollywood is clinging to its guns just as much as the ordinary law-abiding citizens it blasts for gun ownership. If an on-screen cigarette has the power to kill, why doesn't Hollywood feel the same when it comes to on-screen guns? I'm not advocating the elimination of guns, be they real or onscreen (think of the debacle that was the re-edited E.T.), but I do think Hollywood should take a look in the mirror before calling out people when they are just as guilty as the people they are calling out.
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8:45AM on 01/03/2013

Doesn't make sense

First off, just because the character played by an actor in a film shoots a gun, doesn't mean that the actor or the director endorses that decision - it's fuel for the story. Just like Ralph Fiennes PLAYING a nazi in Schindler's List doesn't make the actor antisemitic.
Secondly, it's entertainment. It would be to insult the audience to think that they're too damn stupid to see gunshots on screen without wanting to go shoot a bunch of people themselves. Violence has always been part of
First off, just because the character played by an actor in a film shoots a gun, doesn't mean that the actor or the director endorses that decision - it's fuel for the story. Just like Ralph Fiennes PLAYING a nazi in Schindler's List doesn't make the actor antisemitic.
Secondly, it's entertainment. It would be to insult the audience to think that they're too damn stupid to see gunshots on screen without wanting to go shoot a bunch of people themselves. Violence has always been part of entertainment, it fascinates us because of life/death considerations. But it's entertainment, and it's the job of parents and schools everywhere to make sure that people exposed to that violence remain mentally stable.
So no, I don't think that the campaign is hypocritical, and I think that the video's intentions are pretty misguided
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9:53AM on 01/03/2013
I agree with you. However, let me ask you something. Do you see any problem with this: "Violence has always been part of entertainment, it fascinates us because of life/death considerations"?

When real-life violence culminates into something as shocking as these events, I feel a terrible confliction with my fascination of violence and the grief of these tragedies. How can I find enjoyment out of blood splatter knowing that real blood splatter is so disturbing?

I think there really is
I agree with you. However, let me ask you something. Do you see any problem with this: "Violence has always been part of entertainment, it fascinates us because of life/death considerations"?

When real-life violence culminates into something as shocking as these events, I feel a terrible confliction with my fascination of violence and the grief of these tragedies. How can I find enjoyment out of blood splatter knowing that real blood splatter is so disturbing?

I think there really is hypocrisy in that.
10:07AM on 01/03/2013
Wwallace, thanks for posting back.

There's a distinction to be made between human nature and human culture. Some of the kicks we get from the movies have to do with human nature. If you go and see a horror film, it's gruesome and you're scared, and you like that irksome sense of danger that you're experiencing. Now CULTURE means that you're going to try and prevent any of that from happening to you in real life.

Similarly with sex, just because you find a lady attractive doesn't mean
Wwallace, thanks for posting back.

There's a distinction to be made between human nature and human culture. Some of the kicks we get from the movies have to do with human nature. If you go and see a horror film, it's gruesome and you're scared, and you like that irksome sense of danger that you're experiencing. Now CULTURE means that you're going to try and prevent any of that from happening to you in real life.

Similarly with sex, just because you find a lady attractive doesn't mean you're going to jump all over her, because you've got culture, and a sense of the other person, and you're not a douche.

So when I'm talking about life/death considerations, what I mean is that because of our condition as mortals, and all the questions we have about what happens after death bla bla bla (life's absurd, and all) - I believe that being confronted to those questions can be fascinating. And therein lies one of the purposes of cinema, to be able to confront these dark matters without them impacting actual lives.

Hope this helps
8:43AM on 01/03/2013

This is a very complex issue, and I don't have the capacity to properly write a good opinion about this

I understand that people see it as hipocrisy. Myself, I don't see them as "replicating the very actions they want to stop", because replicating means making an exact copy. And they are ACTING, it's fake, it's a movie. It's not real. I needed to reinforce that.
I understand that people see it as hipocrisy. Myself, I don't see them as "replicating the very actions they want to stop", because replicating means making an exact copy. And they are ACTING, it's fake, it's a movie. It's not real. I needed to reinforce that.
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8:30AM on 01/03/2013
They're hypocritical if it can be stated that there's a direct link between violent cinema and real-life violence and gun crime. I'm sure violent films and games have adversely affected people who already had serious mental issues, but if someone's going to go over the edge and kill a bunch of people, there will always be something in their life that sets them off.
If someone's an actor in a violent film do they lose their right to an opinion on harmful elements of society? I don't see why.
They're hypocritical if it can be stated that there's a direct link between violent cinema and real-life violence and gun crime. I'm sure violent films and games have adversely affected people who already had serious mental issues, but if someone's going to go over the edge and kill a bunch of people, there will always be something in their life that sets them off.
If someone's an actor in a violent film do they lose their right to an opinion on harmful elements of society? I don't see why. Celebrities often wish to associate themselves with a 'good cause' that they perhaps don't really understand, but in this case I should imagine most or all of those involved genuinely care about the problem, they just don't automatically see cause and effect between an action movie and a real life mass murder. Anyone has the right to express the desire for a life free from the threat of violence and unnecessary death.
Should cinema not tackle negative or violent subjects in case it causes the one in a million people to turn violent? Seems an unrealistic viewpoint to me. Cinema both reflects and influences society, and that's as it should be. I don't begrudge Jamie Foxx or anyone else the right to say something should be done about gun control.
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