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Jan. 15, 2013by: Alex Maidy

There is no way to make a perfect time travel movie because of the paradox inherent in time travel. Look at every movie that features some sort of travel through time and there is bound to be some sort of hole in the logic or plot that the filmmakers missed. It is those of us on the internet that nitpick and scour those movies for errors in continuity. But, we do it because we care.

LOOPER is the latest victim of the guys over at CinemaSins. While I loved LOOPER, there are several actual issues with the film raised in this video that I didn't spot before. While I am intelligent enough to take this under consideration, it does not alter my appreciation for Rian Johnson's clever movie.

So, sit back and prepare to laugh because this may be the funniest CinemaSins yet.

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4:56PM on 01/15/2013
When will the staff at JoBlo come to the realization these aren't "cool videos?"
When will the staff at JoBlo come to the realization these aren't "cool videos?"
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8:56PM on 01/15/2013
Yeah, strange they would try and cater to so many people that visit this site and not just the ones that are grumpy.
Yeah, strange they would try and cater to so many people that visit this site and not just the ones that are grumpy.
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5:10PM on 01/15/2013

this is not funny.

if you can be good writer the Be a critic.
if you can be good writer the Be a critic.
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5:13PM on 01/15/2013
I like them. Am I in the minority? These videos seem to insight anger and frustration in some Schmoes. Like their day was going fine till they saw this video. This amuses me two fold:-)
I like them. Am I in the minority? These videos seem to insight anger and frustration in some Schmoes. Like their day was going fine till they saw this video. This amuses me two fold:-)
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5:17PM on 01/15/2013
Honest trailers > Everything wrong with...
Honest trailers > Everything wrong with...
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5:21PM on 01/15/2013

They're just mad because they think Looper is some masterpiece

When it's chumped up, nonsensical bullshit about "time travel" (but not really cuz the movie really is just a rip off of The Terminator and a wannabe X-men movie).
When it's chumped up, nonsensical bullshit about "time travel" (but not really cuz the movie really is just a rip off of The Terminator and a wannabe X-men movie).
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6:30PM on 01/15/2013
No, it being a Terminator rip off and a wannabe X-men movie makes it a rip off of Terminator and a wannabe X-men movie.

Ok maybe the X-men thing goes too far, but I reallllllllllllly disliked the "Oh btw some people have mutant telekinesis too" bit that ended up being what the whole movie was about.
No, it being a Terminator rip off and a wannabe X-men movie makes it a rip off of Terminator and a wannabe X-men movie.

Ok maybe the X-men thing goes too far, but I reallllllllllllly disliked the "Oh btw some people have mutant telekinesis too" bit that ended up being what the whole movie was about.
5:40PM on 01/15/2013
So, any movie having to do with time travel or powers makes it a rip of Terminator and a wannabe Xmen?
So, any movie having to do with time travel or powers makes it a rip of Terminator and a wannabe Xmen?
5:25PM on 01/15/2013

Looper fan boys

Get over it. Rian Johnson turned a out a crappy movie. Brick and Brothers bloom were great but Looper sucks. And stop using the "all time travel movies have huge plot holes" because they don't.
Get over it. Rian Johnson turned a out a crappy movie. Brick and Brothers bloom were great but Looper sucks. And stop using the "all time travel movies have huge plot holes" because they don't.
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1:30AM on 01/16/2013
^^^ What he said.
^^^ What he said.
6:41PM on 01/15/2013
i thought the movie was a terrible addition to the Time-travel genre, but a pretty good addition to the Action genre,
i thought the movie was a terrible addition to the Time-travel genre, but a pretty good addition to the Action genre,
5:38PM on 01/15/2013
If you think that the reason people like this movie is for the time travel bits, then I think you're completely missing the reasons why people like this movie.
If you think that the reason people like this movie is for the time travel bits, then I think you're completely missing the reasons why people like this movie.
5:38PM on 01/15/2013
Double.
Double.
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5:38PM on 01/15/2013
I love Looper and this made me laugh. Irregardless of the holes, of which ever time travel movie seems to have and never really fully explains, it's still a good movie for it's focus on things like character development and a good script. The action is pretty good too.
I love Looper and this made me laugh. Irregardless of the holes, of which ever time travel movie seems to have and never really fully explains, it's still a good movie for it's focus on things like character development and a good script. The action is pretty good too.
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5:39PM on 01/15/2013
I haven't seen a funny one of these videos yet. Is someone at JoBlo the one that produces these? I'm all for making fun of plot holes or inconsistencies in movies but make them funny at least. These are usually just nitpicks which usually aren't funny. For example I love the Honest Trailers. They are funny.
I haven't seen a funny one of these videos yet. Is someone at JoBlo the one that produces these? I'm all for making fun of plot holes or inconsistencies in movies but make them funny at least. These are usually just nitpicks which usually aren't funny. For example I love the Honest Trailers. They are funny.
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5:42PM on 01/15/2013
It's funny because they are nitpicking. Looper is considered a great movie, so the fact that they are finding useless holes that no one cares about is pretty funny in and of itself, but some of these loopholes are pretty funny to think about, like the long winded attempt to examine the time travel angle in the movie.
It's funny because they are nitpicking. Looper is considered a great movie, so the fact that they are finding useless holes that no one cares about is pretty funny in and of itself, but some of these loopholes are pretty funny to think about, like the long winded attempt to examine the time travel angle in the movie.
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5:50PM on 01/15/2013
"Is this the same pocket watch his father hid up his ass in Pulp Fiction?" lol

Great movie. Pretty much every time travel movie will have paradoxical problems, the story has to establish how it deals with them and remain consistent for it to work, and in the case of Looper I believe it did so successfully. I haven't seen the movie since it was in theaters, but didn't old Joe briefly explain that the past become fuzzy memories when its being altered? I think it was in the diner scene, young
"Is this the same pocket watch his father hid up his ass in Pulp Fiction?" lol

Great movie. Pretty much every time travel movie will have paradoxical problems, the story has to establish how it deals with them and remain consistent for it to work, and in the case of Looper I believe it did so successfully. I haven't seen the movie since it was in theaters, but didn't old Joe briefly explain that the past become fuzzy memories when its being altered? I think it was in the diner scene, young Joe asked him how he couldn't predict what the he, his younger self, was about to do. Wouldn't that explain why the older version getting ripped apart/scarred wouldn't remember it happening?
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6:07PM on 01/15/2013

Missing the point

The suspension of disbelief is the most important aspect an audience member must have in order to appreciate a film. These flaws do not make the film bad in any sense it is only when the film contradicts and looses its message and themes because of plot holes that it deserves criticism. These "mistakes" do not do that. Nowadays we judge movies based on their realism which is a cancer to the art of cinema.
The suspension of disbelief is the most important aspect an audience member must have in order to appreciate a film. These flaws do not make the film bad in any sense it is only when the film contradicts and looses its message and themes because of plot holes that it deserves criticism. These "mistakes" do not do that. Nowadays we judge movies based on their realism which is a cancer to the art of cinema.
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6:36PM on 01/15/2013
have to agree with Tash. not sure who enjoys this series, but from the comments, its nearly no one here. honest trailers is much better, imho.
have to agree with Tash. not sure who enjoys this series, but from the comments, its nearly no one here. honest trailers is much better, imho.
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6:40PM on 01/15/2013

i liked this one

i only thought Looper was ok. The whole time travel element just muddled the whole movie, and i love how well this explained what i was thinking through the whole movie. I didnt hate the movie, i just dont think it utilized time travel well

The other "Everything wrong with" videos have been ok, but i really liked this one. Do Taken 2 next
i only thought Looper was ok. The whole time travel element just muddled the whole movie, and i love how well this explained what i was thinking through the whole movie. I didnt hate the movie, i just dont think it utilized time travel well

The other "Everything wrong with" videos have been ok, but i really liked this one. Do Taken 2 next
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6:43PM on 01/15/2013
After a great last episode, here's perhaps the show's worst offering yet. I'm no fan of Looper, but clearly this guy missed the whole alternate timeline thing as many, many of his complaints stem from thinking these characters all exist in a single timeline. The loops intersect but there are at least three different timelines in action here. On top of that he tersely criticizes one of the film's better moments - when Willis refuses to explain the mechanics of time travel specific to this
After a great last episode, here's perhaps the show's worst offering yet. I'm no fan of Looper, but clearly this guy missed the whole alternate timeline thing as many, many of his complaints stem from thinking these characters all exist in a single timeline. The loops intersect but there are at least three different timelines in action here. On top of that he tersely criticizes one of the film's better moments - when Willis refuses to explain the mechanics of time travel specific to this universe.
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1:46AM on 01/16/2013
I'm sorry but I don't understand how there are "at least three different timelines" in Looper. By definition, there is one timeline as is clear from the end (shown in the video above) when Joe kills himself and older Joe immediately disappears. The video did a really good job of explaining why that is absurd: if Joe dies then Joe never grows up and meets his wife and his wife is never killed so Joe never goes back in time to kill the young boy to prevent his wife from getting killed but if
I'm sorry but I don't understand how there are "at least three different timelines" in Looper. By definition, there is one timeline as is clear from the end (shown in the video above) when Joe kills himself and older Joe immediately disappears. The video did a really good job of explaining why that is absurd: if Joe dies then Joe never grows up and meets his wife and his wife is never killed so Joe never goes back in time to kill the young boy to prevent his wife from getting killed but if Joe never goes back in time then what were they doing i the field and why did younger Joe kill himself? As much as people complain about these videos they pointed out some plotholes that even I didn't notice when I saw the movie and that's saying a lot.

Another problem (not specifically mentioned in the video) was the whole question of why the kid became an asshole in the future in the first place if the reason why he bacame an asshole is because Bruce Willis shot his mom. The quick line "$100 says this little kid still becomes an asshole" was addressing that: if there really is one timeline then the little kid should grow up to become an asshole because he already did grow up to become an asshole. I suppose you could argue that there was an "infinite loop" in which Bruce Willis went back to get revenge and the kid became an asshole and neither event was the original cause but when younger Joe shoots himself there's still the question of what the kid is going to do when he gets older.

But, yeah, it is a good movie, just not a great movie like Twelve Monkeys or the original Terminator movie.
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6:45PM on 01/15/2013
Ugh, this series is such a lame YouTube gimmick. We get it, movies are inconsistent. Enough time will reveal plot holes in 99.999% of movies. Neato.

There's this thing called suspension of disbelief. I'm sorry that these guys are the idiots in the back of the theater with their arms folded screaming, "Meh! MEH!!!! MEEEEEEHHHH!!!!" while the rest of us actually enjoy ourselves.

Fucking armchair directors are the worst.
Ugh, this series is such a lame YouTube gimmick. We get it, movies are inconsistent. Enough time will reveal plot holes in 99.999% of movies. Neato.

There's this thing called suspension of disbelief. I'm sorry that these guys are the idiots in the back of the theater with their arms folded screaming, "Meh! MEH!!!! MEEEEEEHHHH!!!!" while the rest of us actually enjoy ourselves.

Fucking armchair directors are the worst.
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7:02PM on 01/15/2013

These are stupid.

It's really easy to point out flaws in movies. But these are ridiculous. Lets see them make something good, then maybe I will give a shit.
It's really easy to point out flaws in movies. But these are ridiculous. Lets see them make something good, then maybe I will give a shit.
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8:05PM on 01/15/2013
I guess I'm in the minority when I say that I love these videos. I take them half literally, mixing genuine flaws and plot holes with some jokes. The reason I find them funnier than Honest Trailers is because Honest Trailers consists of jokes already made about the movie that they'll make again, they try to come off as trying to point out things that don't make sense, but are serious about it and just saying "boobs" isn't funny. Have a joke around it.
I guess I'm in the minority when I say that I love these videos. I take them half literally, mixing genuine flaws and plot holes with some jokes. The reason I find them funnier than Honest Trailers is because Honest Trailers consists of jokes already made about the movie that they'll make again, they try to come off as trying to point out things that don't make sense, but are serious about it and just saying "boobs" isn't funny. Have a joke around it.
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8:38PM on 01/15/2013
I'm surprised people are so passionate one way or the other about these videos. I think they are fairly well done if not only mildy amusing. Obviously no movie is "perfect" by any standard, and any time travelling movie is going to offer many of the same critiques.
I'm surprised people are so passionate one way or the other about these videos. I think they are fairly well done if not only mildy amusing. Obviously no movie is "perfect" by any standard, and any time travelling movie is going to offer many of the same critiques.
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8:46PM on 01/15/2013
Some of you are missing the point. By poking fun of these hit movies they're not implying they could make a better one themselves. They don't make them because they think the movie is garbage. They could do it with any movie put in front of them, and I'm sure they're well aware of that. It's not done out of some superior attitude, and arrogance. Funny or not it's just intended to be a joke. You don't like them, and think they're nitpicking.....the joke went over your head.
Some of you are missing the point. By poking fun of these hit movies they're not implying they could make a better one themselves. They don't make them because they think the movie is garbage. They could do it with any movie put in front of them, and I'm sure they're well aware of that. It's not done out of some superior attitude, and arrogance. Funny or not it's just intended to be a joke. You don't like them, and think they're nitpicking.....the joke went over your head.
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8:12AM on 01/16/2013
Totally fair assessment.
Looper was fine, but not a work of genius and by ignoring the whole 'time paradox' issue not even especially smart.
There is no good reason for this to be in your top ten films, or even in your top five time travel movies.
I enjoyed it, but it certainly isn't the game-changer it was made out to be by some people.
Totally fair assessment.
Looper was fine, but not a work of genius and by ignoring the whole 'time paradox' issue not even especially smart.
There is no good reason for this to be in your top ten films, or even in your top five time travel movies.
I enjoyed it, but it certainly isn't the game-changer it was made out to be by some people.
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10:01AM on 01/16/2013
30 second steak, not really. time lapse dude.
30 second steak, not really. time lapse dude.
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10:24AM on 01/16/2013
As much as I hate these videos....they hit the nail on the head with the ending. I like the film but the ending fucked up any possible way of me loving it. It makes no fucking sense. Even if that part made the least sense there is no absolute sane reason for Joe to die ( the fucking gun can shoot dumb far....even so he couldveshot his trigger hand and that was that...I mean Jesus....theres so many ways that could of gone other than the " try to surprise the audience but have a happy ending" way
As much as I hate these videos....they hit the nail on the head with the ending. I like the film but the ending fucked up any possible way of me loving it. It makes no fucking sense. Even if that part made the least sense there is no absolute sane reason for Joe to die ( the fucking gun can shoot dumb far....even so he couldveshot his trigger hand and that was that...I mean Jesus....theres so many ways that could of gone other than the " try to surprise the audience but have a happy ending" way they did it) And there's suspension of disbelief and defying the films own fucking logic.
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3:28AM on 01/17/2013
Young Joe would not be able to catch up because he would be in too much pain and/or shock from having just blown his hand off. Old Joe would not be in pain and he can simply just pick up the gun with his other hand. Sara would not be able to do anything either, as she wouldn't be able to cover enough ground to reach old Joe before he picks up the gun. And do you remember how old Joe handled young Joe, when he first appears in the past? Just imagine what he would do to Sara even he she does
Young Joe would not be able to catch up because he would be in too much pain and/or shock from having just blown his hand off. Old Joe would not be in pain and he can simply just pick up the gun with his other hand. Sara would not be able to do anything either, as she wouldn't be able to cover enough ground to reach old Joe before he picks up the gun. And do you remember how old Joe handled young Joe, when he first appears in the past? Just imagine what he would do to Sara even he she does reach him. This movie has a lot of plot holes and makes little sense, but I don't believe that's one of them. There was nothing young Joe could do in that situation.
12:27PM on 01/16/2013
the gun will fall off Old joe's hand... giving Young Joe enough time to catch up or Sara enough time to get the gun and shoot old joe ( she wasnt that far away). My point is Young Joe did not need to die.
the gun will fall off Old joe's hand... giving Young Joe enough time to catch up or Sara enough time to get the gun and shoot old joe ( she wasnt that far away). My point is Young Joe did not need to die.
11:45AM on 01/16/2013
No, if young Joe shoots trigger hand, young Joe will be in pain while old Joe will not. Old Joe will simply pick up gun with other hand and shoot kid.
No, if young Joe shoots trigger hand, young Joe will be in pain while old Joe will not. Old Joe will simply pick up gun with other hand and shoot kid.
10:35AM on 01/16/2013
I repeat I liked the film but hated taht ending.
I repeat I liked the film but hated taht ending.
10:55AM on 01/16/2013
sorry double post
sorry double post
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10:57AM on 01/16/2013
This is obnoxious, nasty, and cheap, and a slap in the face to "real" film criticism.
This is obnoxious, nasty, and cheap, and a slap in the face to "real" film criticism.
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11:41AM on 01/16/2013
OMG.. I just watched it. That was so fucking funny!!
OMG.. I just watched it. That was so fucking funny!!
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1:34PM on 01/16/2013
As much as I hate these videos....they hit the nail on the head with the ending. I like the film but the ending fucked up any possible way of me loving it. It makes no fucking sense. Even if that part made the least sense there is no absolute sane reason for Joe to die ( the fucking gun can shoot dumb far....even so he couldve s
As much as I hate these videos....they hit the nail on the head with the ending. I like the film but the ending fucked up any possible way of me loving it. It makes no fucking sense. Even if that part made the least sense there is no absolute sane reason for Joe to die ( the fucking gun can shoot dumb far....even so he couldve s
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5:32PM on 01/16/2013
I don't understand why you keep putting these videos here. They're simply stupid. If the column was called "Stupid Movie Themed Videos" It would make sense but these videos are NOT COOL.
I don't understand why you keep putting these videos here. They're simply stupid. If the column was called "Stupid Movie Themed Videos" It would make sense but these videos are NOT COOL.
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