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Damon Lindelof is definitely out when it comes to writing the sequel to Prometheus

Dec. 20, 2012by: Alejandro Stepenberg

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It feels more than a little strange to be writing about PROMETHEUS again after all this time.   And yet here we are, dragging those old chest-burst Engineer skeletons out of the closet again.

Like a surprising number of films for me this year, PROMETHEUS is one about which I'm enormously conflicted as there were enough alternating moments of brilliance and absurdity for me to still be ambivalent about giving it another go in an attempt to resolve my complaints and concerns.  Same thing with THE HOBBIT: AN UNEXPECTED JOURNEY, but that's for another time.  Because what we have on hand is news about PARADISE, the sequel to PROMETHEUS.  The film made more than enough money for Fox to plunge ahead with making a sequel - they just will be doing so without Damon Lindelof.  Whether you like what he did or not, it cannot be denied that Lindelof knows his way around philosophy and devilishly enjoys layering meaning upon meaning in his work whenever he can.  And whether doing so ultimately worked or not to your mind, I think there is a strong case to be made that Lindelof's contribution to the script that became PROMETHEUS was for the better in the way it distinguished itself from other recent sci-fi on an intellectual level. 

But if you're not a fan of Lindelof or what he brought to Ridley Scott's table, never fear - "much to the delight of the fanboys," as Lindelof puts it, he won't be back for the sequel.

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"I am not [involved]. Ridley [Scott] and I talked at great length during the story process of the first movie about what subsequent movies would be if Prometheus were to be successful. And I think that the movie ended in a very specific way that hinted at, or strongly implied that there were going to be continuing adventures worthy of writing stories. What those stories would be would not necessarily usurp or transcend the Alien franchise as we saw it because we know that the Nostromo hasn’t come along yet. So the idea was to set up a universe that… Is it a prequel? Okay. If that’s what we want to call it, sure. But the sequel to this movie is not Alien. The sequel to this movie is this other thing.

So Ridley and I talked about what that other thing might be, and he was excited about doing it. But then I think what ended up happening was that the movie came out, and there was a reaction to the movie. And I got really wrapped up in Trek, and really wrapped up in this movie that I’m producing and writing with Brad Bird. And I have a TV project that I was really passionate about. Ridley and I had a meeting after Prometheus came out where we started talking again about where this journey would go. And in that meeting I said to him, unfortunately, before he could ask me and go through the discomfort of whether he was going to ask me or not… It’s sort of like having a date where you’re letting the other person know, 'I’m in another relationship.' So I can’t tell you that he asked me and I said no. But I did communicate to him that I was working on these other things.

The thing about Prometheus was it was a rewrite. Jon Spaihts wrote a script and I rewrote it. And still it was a year of my life that I spent on Prometheus, kind of all in. The idea of building a sequel to it—from the ground up this time—with Ridley is tremendously exciting. But at the same time, I was like, 'Well that’s probably going to be two years of my life.' I can’t do what J.J. [Abrams] does. I don’t have the capability. I’m usually very single-minded creatively. I can only be working on one thing at a time. So I said to him, 'I really don’t think I could start working on this movie until I do this other stuff. And I don’t know when the other stuff is going to be done.' And he was like, 'Well, okay, it’s not like I asked you anyways.' He and I are on excellent terms and it was a dream come true to work with him. But much to the delight of all the fanboys, I don’t see myself being involved in Prometheus-er."

So there you have it.  While there's no word yet on precisely when the sequel to PROMETHEUS might arrive, word seems to say that 2015 is a worthy bet to make.

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Extra Tidbit: Have your thoughts shifted at all on PROMETHEUS since your summer viewing? And if so, from what to what?
Source: Collider

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8:24AM on 12/20/2012
I'm looking forward to seeing Prometheus again, because despite its flaws it was still one of the more interesting and visually arresting sci-fi films of recent years. Defintely up for more from this revamped franchise, and if Rapace and Fassbender can return to continue the storyline directly then so much the better.
I'm looking forward to seeing Prometheus again, because despite its flaws it was still one of the more interesting and visually arresting sci-fi films of recent years. Defintely up for more from this revamped franchise, and if Rapace and Fassbender can return to continue the storyline directly then so much the better.
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8:58AM on 12/20/2012
Seeing how the story was 100% of the problem, this is great news. Looks like Alien "fan boys" as Lindelof puts, got an early Christmas present.
Seeing how the story was 100% of the problem, this is great news. Looks like Alien "fan boys" as Lindelof puts, got an early Christmas present.
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9:01AM on 12/20/2012

I liked it a lot

And I definitely felt Lindelof's hand in the script. I will say regarding the comment about plot holes is that most action-oriented movies have plot holes; you just can't escape them when you are dealing with things that can't happen in real life. I feel as though the "I didn't like this because of the plot holes" argument is backwards. If you enjoy a movie, or a book, you are willing to suspend your disbelief. If you don't have that trust or enjoyment, then you are going to be aware of, or
And I definitely felt Lindelof's hand in the script. I will say regarding the comment about plot holes is that most action-oriented movies have plot holes; you just can't escape them when you are dealing with things that can't happen in real life. I feel as though the "I didn't like this because of the plot holes" argument is backwards. If you enjoy a movie, or a book, you are willing to suspend your disbelief. If you don't have that trust or enjoyment, then you are going to be aware of, or bothered by plot holes. Of course, it's a matter of degrees, and sometimes really bad logical breaks can ruin a story - but in general, I feel like we forgive plot holes in movies that we like, and don't forgive them in movies we don't like, and perhaps in the judgement after, we invert that relationship so that the plot holes become part of the argument.
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9:06AM on 12/20/2012
And here comes the celebration that the "talentless LOST hack" won't be coming back.

I have a lot of respect for Lindelof. The nearly four hour Prometheus documentary and director/writers commentary on the blu ray shed much light on who is really at fault for the majority of complaints - yet Lindelof has taken it all in stride and allowed himself to take the blame. Prometheus is an anomaly, (both when it comes to the borderline autistic nitpicking as well as ignorant scapegoating.)

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And here comes the celebration that the "talentless LOST hack" won't be coming back.

I have a lot of respect for Lindelof. The nearly four hour Prometheus documentary and director/writers commentary on the blu ray shed much light on who is really at fault for the majority of complaints - yet Lindelof has taken it all in stride and allowed himself to take the blame. Prometheus is an anomaly, (both when it comes to the borderline autistic nitpicking as well as ignorant scapegoating.)

I hope HBO picks up The Leftovers because it is the type of work he is best at: engaging, realistic people caught in an extraordinary circumstance.
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9:10AM on 12/20/2012
I liked Prometheus a lot, and I'm really looking forward to the sequel as the ending left so much to be desired!
I liked Prometheus a lot, and I'm really looking forward to the sequel as the ending left so much to be desired!
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9:28AM on 12/20/2012

Thats annoying

i enjoyed Prometheus although i do feel Lindelhof's rewrite made the story conflicted and confused compared to Spathis's solid script but its like he said; it was a rewrite. I do think its annoying hes jumping ship already, he really left the thing wide open with a clear idea where to go next and now he's not going to see it through, i think the sequel would've been truer to what he wanted to do in the first place. Oh well...
i enjoyed Prometheus although i do feel Lindelhof's rewrite made the story conflicted and confused compared to Spathis's solid script but its like he said; it was a rewrite. I do think its annoying hes jumping ship already, he really left the thing wide open with a clear idea where to go next and now he's not going to see it through, i think the sequel would've been truer to what he wanted to do in the first place. Oh well...
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10:57AM on 12/20/2012
fuck you Lindelhof. Phew, I feel better as a fanboy having said that.
fuck you Lindelhof. Phew, I feel better as a fanboy having said that.
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11:48AM on 12/20/2012

I'm totally okay with that

I liked the work Lindelof did on LOST, because I accepted that the show worked that way and that we didn't need to know all the details. That's a reason why I loved LOST. It's not definitive.
But his rewrite on Prometheus was what torpedoed the movie. The original script worked as a direct prequel and it would have ended up being a solid B-movie with A-movie cinematography. Had Lindelof built the script from the ground up, it would have been very interesting to see the result. Instead of
I liked the work Lindelof did on LOST, because I accepted that the show worked that way and that we didn't need to know all the details. That's a reason why I loved LOST. It's not definitive.
But his rewrite on Prometheus was what torpedoed the movie. The original script worked as a direct prequel and it would have ended up being a solid B-movie with A-movie cinematography. Had Lindelof built the script from the ground up, it would have been very interesting to see the result. Instead of that, and just like the final shot of Prometheus, we got an hybrid. Two very different movies akwardly put together which formed an incoherent mess. There are a lot of good ideas in both versions of the script but they belonged to their own movie and shouldn't have been mixed together.
And now, the "franchise" is kind of stuck with some of Lindelof's ideas that probably won't be adressed anymore. So I say give the writing job to Jon Spaihts and see where he's going from there. The movie would certainly have been better without the rewrite, even without the ten layers of "deep meaning" that ended up meaning nothing at all.
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12:46PM on 12/20/2012

I thought they already made the sequel to Prometheus....

It's called "Alien"
It's called "Alien"
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1:30PM on 12/20/2012

Yes!

I love how he distances himself from that disaster. "Oh it was just a rewrite..." yeah, just as bad as your other tripe.

Hate to see a fellow writer lose work, but damn, when your work is shoddy you shouldn't be gifted franchises to ruin. Sorry Lindelof, but the script was the major problem with Prometheus and Scott should have never moved ahead with that film until you guys could have settled the obvious disdain you had for the audience. Good riddance, but the damage has been done.
I love how he distances himself from that disaster. "Oh it was just a rewrite..." yeah, just as bad as your other tripe.

Hate to see a fellow writer lose work, but damn, when your work is shoddy you shouldn't be gifted franchises to ruin. Sorry Lindelof, but the script was the major problem with Prometheus and Scott should have never moved ahead with that film until you guys could have settled the obvious disdain you had for the audience. Good riddance, but the damage has been done.
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2:46PM on 12/20/2012
^ LOL. Go Cricker, Go Cricker, GO!
^ LOL. Go Cricker, Go Cricker, GO!
1:38PM on 12/20/2012
well with your writing in this post we wont have to worry about ever reading your work. But hey its ok to hate someone way more successful than you, I mean what are you gonna tell yourself in reality, that you just suck, no keep the lie going brother!
well with your writing in this post we wont have to worry about ever reading your work. But hey its ok to hate someone way more successful than you, I mean what are you gonna tell yourself in reality, that you just suck, no keep the lie going brother!
2:06PM on 12/20/2012
I loved Prometheus. And I wasn't to hip to the movie before it came out
I loved Prometheus. And I wasn't to hip to the movie before it came out
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2:12PM on 12/20/2012
For me, movies are about moments. When a movie has enough memorable and exciting moments, I can forgive its flaws. This movie just didn't have moments for me to hold onto thus all the flaws and holes stood out and I found myself just really disliking the movie from that. I don't care about who wrote it, who directs or any of that crap, non of that matters to me. If I enjoy I movie, I enjoy it based on what I watch, nothing simpler than that. I find too many people will hate a film simply
For me, movies are about moments. When a movie has enough memorable and exciting moments, I can forgive its flaws. This movie just didn't have moments for me to hold onto thus all the flaws and holes stood out and I found myself just really disliking the movie from that. I don't care about who wrote it, who directs or any of that crap, non of that matters to me. If I enjoy I movie, I enjoy it based on what I watch, nothing simpler than that. I find too many people will hate a film simply because of a star or director or writer etc and I just don't let that interfer...most times. Uwe Boll is an exception. I just don't want to support his nonsense at all. That aside, I really wish I had loved Prometheus, but the lack of memorable moments and all the holes made that impossible. Changing writers may have a positive affect or it may not. Either way, I won't see the sequel without some serious in-depth reviews.
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2:47PM on 12/20/2012
i had no real problems with lindelof's script, and i actually really liked 'prometheus' for what it was, which, to me, seemed to be setting up that universe that we all now know as 'alien.' while i'd love to see a sequel building up to the events the nostromo crew encountered, i'm pretty skeptical as to whether it will ever happen. ridley scott's 75 years old right now, he has about 18 other movies in various stages of development, and says he wants to do the 'blade runner' thing first. i'd be
i had no real problems with lindelof's script, and i actually really liked 'prometheus' for what it was, which, to me, seemed to be setting up that universe that we all now know as 'alien.' while i'd love to see a sequel building up to the events the nostromo crew encountered, i'm pretty skeptical as to whether it will ever happen. ridley scott's 75 years old right now, he has about 18 other movies in various stages of development, and says he wants to do the 'blade runner' thing first. i'd be surprised if 'paradise' ever actually sees the light of day.
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3:05PM on 12/20/2012
" But then I think what ended up happening was that the movie came out, and there was a reaction to the movie."

Please, tell us more regarding this... "reaction"... you speak of, Mr. Shit-for-brains.
" But then I think what ended up happening was that the movie came out, and there was a reaction to the movie."

Please, tell us more regarding this... "reaction"... you speak of, Mr. Shit-for-brains.
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4:59PM on 12/20/2012
"much to the delight of the fanboys," You mean film fans Damon.
I still can't believe he spent a year writing that script! Nevermind it's a re-write or whatever excuse he's trying to think up for all those problems and God awful dialogue.
"much to the delight of the fanboys," You mean film fans Damon.
I still can't believe he spent a year writing that script! Nevermind it's a re-write or whatever excuse he's trying to think up for all those problems and God awful dialogue.
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5:48PM on 12/20/2012
If anything ever desperately needed a reboot, it's Prometheus. Go back to square one, disregard Prometheus, and redo everything.
If anything ever desperately needed a reboot, it's Prometheus. Go back to square one, disregard Prometheus, and redo everything.
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9:08PM on 12/20/2012

Fuck Damon Lindelof

My opinion has changed. After my first viewing I absolutely fucking hated the film. I fully admit there was much that the film intended that I did not pick up on the first time through. I like it much more now. I still think it leaves a lot to be desired, but there enough "that is fucking cool" moments and story elements to keep me interested in a sequel.

In my opinion, and this is just that, Lindelof was the weakest link of this entire project. Having seen much of the original writer's
My opinion has changed. After my first viewing I absolutely fucking hated the film. I fully admit there was much that the film intended that I did not pick up on the first time through. I like it much more now. I still think it leaves a lot to be desired, but there enough "that is fucking cool" moments and story elements to keep me interested in a sequel.

In my opinion, and this is just that, Lindelof was the weakest link of this entire project. Having seen much of the original writer's script (his name escapes me) and being in awe of Scott's visual style I believe Lindelof made many of the changes that kept people scratching there heads and wondering why the film would jump from the sublime to the pretentiously preposterous. The complete and total lack of any real payoff "Alien" wise was entirely Lindelof's doing unless I am mistaken. I was a fan of LOST as well, until it ended and you realized that the show had essentially been about nothing at all and the writers never had any idea where they were going. As a writer, he seems capable of generating a few cool ideas, and then utterly pounds them into submission by attempting to be more clever than he is.
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2:41PM on 12/21/2012

good...

This guy is an awful writer. I don't understand how he keeps getting jobs and people keep wanting him. He leaves too many holes in all of his screenplays and and never has a solid ending, ever.
This guy is an awful writer. I don't understand how he keeps getting jobs and people keep wanting him. He leaves too many holes in all of his screenplays and and never has a solid ending, ever.
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