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David Fincher says 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea will probably be 70% CG

Aug. 12, 2011by: George Merchan

Director David Fincher (THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO) has always been one to make surprisingly heavy use of CG special effects in his films, though always in unobtrusive and often seamless ways.

In speaking recently at the Swedish Film Institute for an Actors Studio Q&A, the filmmaker discussed motion capture (a hot topic these days thanks to its incredible use in RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES) and the possibility of creating a film using the technology. In the process, Fincher revealed that his next film, 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA, will likely rely very extensively on computer graphics:

"I would love to to something like that. I would love to do something probably more like Avatar than Tintin. I like the idea of something that is a little more... complicated [laughs]. I love the idea of a 'cartoon', but I would like it to be sort of very, very dense. And, in fact, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea will be probably 70% CG. I love motion capture and think its only in its infancy, and eventually there wont be a difference between motion capture and acting. because thats all motion capture is, is being able to capture acting."

Will 20,000 LEAGUES become Fincher's AVATAR? It's interesting to consider just what an auteur filmmaker like this will be able to bring to the table using all the latest technology. After seeing such progression in just what they can do with character now in RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES, it's frankly very exciting.
Extra Tidbit: Do you have a favorite use of a special effect in a Fincher film?
Source: /Film

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1:46AM on 08/14/2011

EXTRA TIDBIT:

As mentioned below, 'Fight Club' has a ton of cool CGI sequences but for me the most memorable are the opening credits of 'Panic Room' and the lake scene in 'Zodiac.'
As mentioned below, 'Fight Club' has a ton of cool CGI sequences but for me the most memorable are the opening credits of 'Panic Room' and the lake scene in 'Zodiac.'
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12:46PM on 08/13/2011

Tidbit: Fight Club

When the gas filled apartment blows up with a spark behind the refrigerator, to a tight dust brothers soundtrack.
When the gas filled apartment blows up with a spark behind the refrigerator, to a tight dust brothers soundtrack.
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12:39PM on 08/13/2011
Give this man an Oscar already.
Give this man an Oscar already.
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1:49AM on 08/14/2011
Word is, the reason he's been short-changed by the Academy is that he's rubbed quite a few people the wrong way with his aggressive attitude.

Uber-perfectionism has it's downsides.
Word is, the reason he's been short-changed by the Academy is that he's rubbed quite a few people the wrong way with his aggressive attitude.

Uber-perfectionism has it's downsides.
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7:43PM on 08/12/2011
The cgi breath in the Social Network was not seamless or unobtrusive.
The cgi breath in the Social Network was not seamless or unobtrusive.
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6:25PM on 08/12/2011
Would love to see what a guy like Fincher would do with this technology. That is an exciting combination indeed.
Make it so.
Would love to see what a guy like Fincher would do with this technology. That is an exciting combination indeed.
Make it so.
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4:45PM on 08/12/2011
Why does he even bother talking about this? It's pretty much common knowledge that if Hollywood is doing a film that involves special effects, 9 times out of 10 it will be CG based. and of course he wants the film to look like Avatar, every director wants their film to look like Avatar.
Why does he even bother talking about this? It's pretty much common knowledge that if Hollywood is doing a film that involves special effects, 9 times out of 10 it will be CG based. and of course he wants the film to look like Avatar, every director wants their film to look like Avatar.
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2:31PM on 08/12/2011

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in fight club where ed norton is walking through his apartment and all the ikea shit is labeled and he walks in and out of the text
in fight club where ed norton is walking through his apartment and all the ikea shit is labeled and he walks in and out of the text
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12:09PM on 08/12/2011
Well, at least he admits it'd be a cartoon.
Well, at least he admits it'd be a cartoon.
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11:59AM on 08/12/2011
Had me at David Fincher directing 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea.

The ocean is a deep, dark TERRIFYING place. Even the 1954 Disney film, which I love, captured this concept.
Had me at David Fincher directing 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea.

The ocean is a deep, dark TERRIFYING place. Even the 1954 Disney film, which I love, captured this concept.
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11:51AM on 08/12/2011
Extra tidbit: Zodiac. If I didn't watch the behind the scenes, I'd have thought they actually decorate the scene and make it looks retro.
Extra tidbit: Zodiac. If I didn't watch the behind the scenes, I'd have thought they actually decorate the scene and make it looks retro.
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11:14AM on 08/12/2011
interesting. Looking forward to it
interesting. Looking forward to it
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9:57AM on 08/12/2011

rofl, you are all hypocritical fanboys.

If it was anyone else besides Nolan or Fincher, you people would negative vote this article to hell "Cause screw CGI...why do they have to ruin films..." oh wait...its Fincher doing it?

THEN WIN! AWESOME! TRUST THE MAN! HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING!!!

Idiots.
If it was anyone else besides Nolan or Fincher, you people would negative vote this article to hell "Cause screw CGI...why do they have to ruin films..." oh wait...its Fincher doing it?

THEN WIN! AWESOME! TRUST THE MAN! HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING!!!

Idiots.
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12:49PM on 08/12/2011
you forgot arronofsky. he always gets a pass too. if he had done wolverine 1, and made deadpool shoot lasers out of his eyes, i prob would have been fine with it.
you forgot arronofsky. he always gets a pass too. if he had done wolverine 1, and made deadpool shoot lasers out of his eyes, i prob would have been fine with it.
4:47PM on 08/12/2011
While I agree that hipocrisy runs amok on these boards, at least a kernel of discerning taste applies.

Why is it bad to (initially) trust a filmmaker that is enjoying a fantastic running streak? If this was Vegas and Fincher was running hot at the tables, I would bet on black if he did.

Like when I heard Scorsese was doing a 3D movie, I thought it would bring a bit of validity to a over-blown, over-used gimmick. I trusted Scorsese because he is a master craftsman and a very deliberate
While I agree that hipocrisy runs amok on these boards, at least a kernel of discerning taste applies.

Why is it bad to (initially) trust a filmmaker that is enjoying a fantastic running streak? If this was Vegas and Fincher was running hot at the tables, I would bet on black if he did.

Like when I heard Scorsese was doing a 3D movie, I thought it would bring a bit of validity to a over-blown, over-used gimmick. I trusted Scorsese because he is a master craftsman and a very deliberate filmmaker. since the trailer debuted I have changed my mind, not because of the gimmick, but because of the demographic.
That's a whole other topic...

5:41PM on 08/12/2011
Eh... I don't think it's the fact of whose doing the film that the CGI is a problem, but how the CGI is done... There are some directors who use CGI for things that could easily be done without, and occasionally done so poorly that it looks ridiculous. I'm all for CG if done tastefully. When you give examples of Nolan or Fincher, these are people who only use CGI when the scene really calls for it. If there's a shot that cannot be done at the right angle, or be done safely, or just can't be
Eh... I don't think it's the fact of whose doing the film that the CGI is a problem, but how the CGI is done... There are some directors who use CGI for things that could easily be done without, and occasionally done so poorly that it looks ridiculous. I'm all for CG if done tastefully. When you give examples of Nolan or Fincher, these are people who only use CGI when the scene really calls for it. If there's a shot that cannot be done at the right angle, or be done safely, or just can't be done period, they'll use CG, but if it's not completely necessary, they won't use it.

That being said, I think there are plenty of directors who use CGI and do it well... But, Fincher is a notorious perfectionist, not unlike Kubrick. It's likely that with him behind the helm, he won't settle for some half-assed CGI effects. If it's not perfect, it won't be in his film.
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9:37AM on 08/12/2011

Fight Club

Definitely had some great, creative graphics.
Definitely had some great, creative graphics.
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7:03AM on 08/12/2011

Fincher is a Master

trust the man
trust the man
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6:21AM on 08/12/2011

I can help.

It should have a submarine!
It should have a submarine!
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4:17AM on 08/12/2011

extra tidbit

For me...it's a tie between Fight Club's 90-second title sequence pullback from within the brain to the outside of the skull ending w/ the gun sight in Norton's mouth & the "cigarette burn". Which represents a turning point that foreshadows the coming rupture and inversion of the "fairly subjective reality" that existed earlier in the film.
For me...it's a tie between Fight Club's 90-second title sequence pullback from within the brain to the outside of the skull ending w/ the gun sight in Norton's mouth & the "cigarette burn". Which represents a turning point that foreshadows the coming rupture and inversion of the "fairly subjective reality" that existed earlier in the film.
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6:20AM on 08/12/2011
What? Over analysed!
What? Over analysed!
2:56AM on 08/12/2011

70% cgi

Hmm just like his last 3 films, did anyone watch the Zodiac making of features, he used so much CGI to capture the feeling of the era, and didn't Social Network almost get a nom for best graphics last year?
Hmm just like his last 3 films, did anyone watch the Zodiac making of features, he used so much CGI to capture the feeling of the era, and didn't Social Network almost get a nom for best graphics last year?
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2:53AM on 08/12/2011
I'm so lost in what he is talking about. I just hope this movie is awesome because 20K Leagues should be a bad ass movie.
I'm so lost in what he is talking about. I just hope this movie is awesome because 20K Leagues should be a bad ass movie.
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