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by: Niki Stephens Aug. 31, 2009

Guillermo del Toro wants to put the HOBBIT 3D rumors to rest. He also talks about AVATAR and casting for Bilbo.

Del Toro took to the boards over at The One Ring Forums to discuss the possibility of a 3D film, "As a co-writer and director of this film (who works with the design teams, costume teams, creature teams, VFX teams every day of the week), let me be very clear one more time: we are not talking about 3D, we are NOT writing the screenplay for 3D right now- we are hiring my DoP Guillermo Navarro to shoot the film and we are not discussing 3D with him either or with WETA digital or WB or anyone else."

He continues on about the 3D market, "If after AVATAR the market may change and demands are put upon us, etc that is in the future. But if such things happen and we start discussing 3D down the line, I'll let it be know here at TORN because that's the proper way of doing things. But make no mistake- I've been living in NZ for almost a year now and we have not been discussing 3D."

Even though AVATAR will probably do exceptionally well at the box office, Del Toro knows that the way of 3D is inevitable, "Jim [Dorey] has been right in the past and he may be right in the future. He is dead-on about the imminent conversion of film into an expanding 3-D field - at least in most blockbusters and I know of, at least, 4 or 5 major filmmakers preparing 3D films right now. Some of them seriously artistic and ungimmicky!! I've seen AVATAR and I was absolutely blow away by it!! I myself expect to explore 3D soon enough- it is the future, just not my immediate future.

I am looking forward to seeing AVATAR is 3D. It will obviously give true life to what we have seen in the trailer. Well, what about the casting rumors? Del Toro squashed possibilities, "And no- neither David Tennant nor Tom Cruise are Bilbo and we are not redesigning Gollum."

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Stratburst
12:12PM on 09/01/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
What's wrong with Ian Holm? He worked very well in LotR.
What's wrong with Ian Holm? He worked very well in LotR.
 
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martinphipps
9:12AM on 09/01/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
The Hobbit and LOTR are for different audiences
The Hobbit is a children's story, like the first couple of Harry Potter books. Del Toro is fine for the Hobbit: Jackson's Hobbit would have been too serious because he'd try to make it a LOTR prequel instead of a stand alone film. Technically it is a LOTR prequel except that the Hobbit was written first. Let's not lose our sense of wonder and innocence. The Hellboy movies had plenty of...
The Hobbit is a children's story, like the first couple of Harry Potter books. Del Toro is fine for the Hobbit: Jackson's Hobbit would have been too serious because he'd try to make it a LOTR prequel instead of a stand alone film. Technically it is a LOTR prequel except that the Hobbit was written first. Let's not lose our sense of wonder and innocence. The Hellboy movies had plenty of that.



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critic_h8er
5:27AM on 09/01/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Might I suggest, then, HELLBOY 3...D?
Might I suggest, then, HELLBOY 3...D?
 
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DarkElfa
12:20AM on 09/01/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Yah, I'm down on no Tennant as well.
Yah, I'm down on no Tennant as well.
 
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Stratburst
12:05AM on 09/01/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
What's wrong with Ian Holm? He worked very well in LotR.
What's wrong with Ian Holm? He worked very well in LotR.
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Skellington
10:35AM on 09/01/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
And the actor is getting old, he cant be part of a movie requiring him to do action.
And the actor is getting old, he cant be part of a movie requiring him to do action.
 
HoyleHaw
12:12AM on 09/01/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Because Bilbo isn't eleventy-one in "The Hobbit."
Because Bilbo isn't eleventy-one in "The Hobbit."
 
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Red4
11:51PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Listen folks, I have nothing against the LOTR books, nor against Peter Jackson. I know Tolkien was uber creative, and so is Jackson. But the LOTR movies really just didn't do it for me. And this is to Dannywalker17: Thanks for giving a polite response. I wasn't personally attacking anyone; nor was I being vulgar. Some people here blow shit out of proportion. But of course, no single public...
Listen folks, I have nothing against the LOTR books, nor against Peter Jackson. I know Tolkien was uber creative, and so is Jackson. But the LOTR movies really just didn't do it for me. And this is to Dannywalker17: Thanks for giving a polite response. I wasn't personally attacking anyone; nor was I being vulgar. Some people here blow shit out of proportion. But of course, no single public forum will ever be as overwrought with shameless shallow gluttons as TFW2005.com. That place is a god damned cesspool.
 
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haakim the beam
11:48PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Tom Bilbo Cruise...
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha ha ha!
 
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writer19
11:28PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
DIDN’T MENTION MCAVOY!!!!! SO HE’S STILL CONSIDERED

DIDN’T MENTION MCAVOY!!!!! SO HE’S STILL CONSIDERED

 
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absuter
10:43PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
No Tennant?
My excitement for this just went way down. I will always think David Tennant is perfect for Bilbo Baggins. Now instead of eagerly keeping up with production, I'll just wait around apathetically for a trailer...
My excitement for this just went way down. I will always think David Tennant is perfect for Bilbo Baggins. Now instead of eagerly keeping up with production, I'll just wait around apathetically for a trailer...
 
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JacksColdSweat
10:31PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Really?!
Everyone's jizzing all over Avatar's nuggets but we're calling Lord of the Rings overrated? Grow up.



"Even though AVATAR will probably do exceptionally well at the box office" And I'm not so sure this will hold true. Look at how much money they've already invested in this thing.
Everyone's jizzing all over Avatar's nuggets but we're calling Lord of the Rings overrated? Grow up.



"Even though AVATAR will probably do exceptionally well at the box office" And I'm not so sure this will hold true. Look at how much money they've already invested in this thing.
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Rizwan Khalil
9:31AM on 09/01/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Jacks has a point, Niki. It will not be a bomb (like less than 150 or 200mil), but with its budget and other marketing costs this movie will have to earn atleast 400 MILLIONS just to break even! So how much would it need to be a blockbuster, 600 millions??
Jacks has a point, Niki. It will not be a bomb (like less than 150 or 200mil), but with its budget and other marketing costs this movie will have to earn atleast 400 MILLIONS just to break even! So how much would it need to be a blockbuster, 600 millions??
 
beatrixkiddo
10:45PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
You really don't think it will do well? As hyped as it is, especially with the die hards? I just figure it would. I don't know if it will reach Titanic proportions but it's not like it will bomb.
You really don't think it will do well? As hyped as it is, especially with the die hards? I just figure it would. I don't know if it will reach Titanic proportions but it's not like it will bomb.
 
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JohnLocke2342
9:03PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Gollum is the most useless character in cinema history?



Did you see the movies?



People hate on Lord of the Rings just to fucking hate it.
Gollum is the most useless character in cinema history?



Did you see the movies?



People hate on Lord of the Rings just to fucking hate it.
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Skellington
10:31AM on 09/01/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Gollum offers a lot, he is responsible for Frodo's confusion near the end, and almost ruin everything. Its called character development and there is a theme here: betrayal.
Gollum offers a lot, he is responsible for Frodo's confusion near the end, and almost ruin everything. Its called character development and there is a theme here: betrayal.
 
Madge
4:40AM on 09/01/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Anyone who cheers in a cinema to a film other than an obvious comedy or teen slasher should be stopped in whatever way deemed appropriate. Keep your fecking opinions to yourself til you get out the cinema ya muppet. Honestly - bawbag central.
Anyone who cheers in a cinema to a film other than an obvious comedy or teen slasher should be stopped in whatever way deemed appropriate. Keep your fecking opinions to yourself til you get out the cinema ya muppet. Honestly - bawbag central.
 
ElderPredator
9:18PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Not arguing at all with you guys as everyone has different taste in movies.

But for almost the entire time during the films, all the characters are doing is walking around, sleeping, bitching about everyone around them and getting absolutely nowhere.

You remember Randall's impersonation of the films in CLERKS II? He's not far off from the truth fellas.

Not arguing at all with you guys as everyone has different taste in movies.

But for almost the entire time during the films, all the characters are doing is walking around, sleeping, bitching about everyone around them and getting absolutely nowhere.

You remember Randall's impersonation of the films in CLERKS II? He's not far off from the truth fellas.

And yes, Gollum is an annoying character who offers nothing to the plot other than being a complete pain in the ass that never shuts the fuck up. I fucking cheered in the theatre when he died and I got scolded by the audience for it. It was worth it...no more "My Precious" quotes.
 
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ElderPredator
8:52PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
LOTR = Overrated!
I'm with Red4, those movies are so overrated. The first one was pretty boring, the second picked it up a bit but not much and things didn't finally get good until the third.



BTW, you all hate Jar Jar Binks...are you telling me that Gollum is any better? He's one of the most irritating and useless characters in cinema history.



FRIGHTENERS is Jackson's best!
I'm with Red4, those movies are so overrated. The first one was pretty boring, the second picked it up a bit but not much and things didn't finally get good until the third.



BTW, you all hate Jar Jar Binks...are you telling me that Gollum is any better? He's one of the most irritating and useless characters in cinema history.



FRIGHTENERS is Jackson's best!
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Skellington
10:29AM on 09/01/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Most useless character in cinema history ? You must have seen a lot of movies.
Most useless character in cinema history ? You must have seen a lot of movies.
 
Madge
4:48AM on 09/01/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Sometimes people are just plain wrong. You're doing it now.
Sometimes people are just plain wrong. You're doing it now.
 
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Red4
8:47PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Right so you guys got my comment deleted? wtf?
Right so you guys got my comment deleted? wtf?
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dannywalker17
9:07PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
LOL I assumed you deleted it out of embarassment. I'm pretty sure they're not about censoring unpopular opinions here, as much as we'd like to sometimes.
LOL I assumed you deleted it out of embarassment. I'm pretty sure they're not about censoring unpopular opinions here, as much as we'd like to sometimes.
 
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Bleakseason
8:27PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Again with the shabby writing. Tsk, tsk.
Again with the shabby writing. Tsk, tsk.
 
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Oarker
8:16PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
He may have had a few problems in Hellboy, but dont forget he also directed Pan's Labyrinth and the style of that movie would fit perfect into the LotR universe
He may have had a few problems in Hellboy, but dont forget he also directed Pan's Labyrinth and the style of that movie would fit perfect into the LotR universe
 
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Paulie
7:53PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I am looking forward to The Hobbit. But I don't like the fact that the director behind Hellboy II is making it. Face it, people. Even the first Hellboy movie has it's flaws. Compared to what we could've got, it was just mediocre. Yes, Peter Jackson is producing The Hobbit, but how much difference will that make?



"LORD OF THE RINGS extended edition in 3D! Now that's f*cking...
I am looking forward to The Hobbit. But I don't like the fact that the director behind Hellboy II is making it. Face it, people. Even the first Hellboy movie has it's flaws. Compared to what we could've got, it was just mediocre. Yes, Peter Jackson is producing The Hobbit, but how much difference will that make?



"LORD OF THE RINGS extended edition in 3D! Now that's f*cking epic!"



I have nothing further to add. That sums it all up.
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Skellington
10:26AM on 09/01/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
No movie is perfect, all movies have flaws.
No movie is perfect, all movies have flaws.
 
blsnychapter
8:35PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Look at Peter Jackson films before lord of the rings. They were not all that great
Look at Peter Jackson films before lord of the rings. They were not all that great
 
dannywalker17
8:19PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
He also did Pan's Labrynth. He was the fans' choice to take the reigns by an overwhelming margin. I can't imagine anyone more capable other than PJ.
He also did Pan's Labrynth. He was the fans' choice to take the reigns by an overwhelming margin. I can't imagine anyone more capable other than PJ.
 
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cerealkiller182
7:17PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I would totally put Frighteners above LOTR.
I would totally put Frighteners above LOTR.
 
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Exzachary
7:07PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
okkkk
Red4 - that was such a ridiculous remark its not even worth repeating.



how is it that he's already seen a completely finished version of AVATAR and the rest of us are waiting till dec? come on Cameron.. no need for the foreplay... you know everyone is already stoked on this.
Red4 - that was such a ridiculous remark its not even worth repeating.



how is it that he's already seen a completely finished version of AVATAR and the rest of us are waiting till dec? come on Cameron.. no need for the foreplay... you know everyone is already stoked on this.
 
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gameslave
6:20PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
He was blown away by Avatar. face it haters, Avatar is the real deal.
He was blown away by Avatar. face it haters, Avatar is the real deal.
 
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dannywalker17
6:10PM on 08/31/2009 Add as a friend | MFC profile
LOL
Red4, you lost me (and most of the world) when you placed the Frighteners and Willow over LOTR. What a laugh.



Anyway, I'm glad to see this comment from GDT. 3D still feels like a gimmick to me. Avatar may change that, but I'm still not sure that 3D is the way of the future. It's been a fad in the past and didn't exactly stick. We all know how going all digital worked out for...
Red4, you lost me (and most of the world) when you placed the Frighteners and Willow over LOTR. What a laugh.



Anyway, I'm glad to see this comment from GDT. 3D still feels like a gimmick to me. Avatar may change that, but I'm still not sure that 3D is the way of the future. It's been a fad in the past and didn't exactly stick. We all know how going all digital worked out for George Lucas and Star Wars I-III. I'm glad PJ and GDT are sticking to what worked just fine for LOTR. Also glad that Tom Cruise is not Bilbo. I hadn't even heard that rumor, but good lord...
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