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DiCaprio as the Riddler and other interesting tidbits from The Dark Knight Rises

06.01.2012

Yesterday the latest issue of Empire Magazine came out. Why does this matter? Well, it was the one we've been getting all those photos from for THE DARK KNIGHT RISES.

Batman News read the article and dropped some interesting tidbits. I thought I would share.

-In Fall of 2008, Christopher Nolan and co-writer David Goyer came up with the ending to The Dark Knight Rises. They didn’t know what the plot would be, or which villains would terrorize Gotham, but they knew it would be the final Batman movie in their trilogy, and they knew how they wanted it to end. Goyer explained that the ending in The Dark Knight Rises is exactly what they talked about 4 years ago — it’s completely unchanged. When Goyer saw that final scene from The Dark Knight Rises, he got a lump in his throat.

-More than a third of the film, 1 hour, was shot in IMAX.

-The Dark Knight Rises is Wally Pfister’s last movie as Director of Photography, he’ll be moving on to pursue a directing career.

-As I mentioned earlier this week, Nolan confirmed that The Joker will not be addressed at all in The Dark Knight Rises. He was also nervous about adding Catwoman, but his brother Jonathan convinced him that she needed to be part of the trilogy.

-David Goyer said that at the premiere of The Dark Knight, Warner Bros. executives were already talking about a villain for The Dark Knight Rises — “it’s gonna be The Riddler, and we want it to be Leonardo DiCaprio…”.

-Christopher Nolan confirmed that Anne Hathaway’s character, Selina Kyle, is never referred to as “Catwoman” in the script.

DiCaprio as Riddler? Hmmmm...can't say I see that.

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7:10PM on 06/03/2012

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Readers, do yourself a favor and scroll down until you reach the comment by TarantinoDork. Easily the best, most insightful (even if never confirmed) vision of TDK I have ever read...
Readers, do yourself a favor and scroll down until you reach the comment by TarantinoDork. Easily the best, most insightful (even if never confirmed) vision of TDK I have ever read...
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4:08PM on 06/03/2012
I'm late to the show for sure, and this reference may have already been discussed, but I just caught the first season of the BBC Sherlock series and damn if I didn't think their direction of Moriarty was spot on for a Nolan-verse Riddler.

If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it (and it's on Netflix instant to boot)
I'm late to the show for sure, and this reference may have already been discussed, but I just caught the first season of the BBC Sherlock series and damn if I didn't think their direction of Moriarty was spot on for a Nolan-verse Riddler.

If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it (and it's on Netflix instant to boot)
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2:52PM on 06/03/2012
The Joker is never referenced and Catwoman isn't even being called Catwoman? This is a Batman movie, right?
The Joker is never referenced and Catwoman isn't even being called Catwoman? This is a Batman movie, right?
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3:06PM on 06/03/2012
It's the exact same situation as Harvey Dent not being called "Two-Face" in TDK. Sure it was alluded to when he said he was "half" dead and stuff, but pretty sure not a lot of people are complaining about that. I'm completely fine with Fox simply saying that the batsuit would be good against 'cats' in TDK, even if there's no similar line in TDKR. I do wish the Joker was going to be referenced at least in passing though
It's the exact same situation as Harvey Dent not being called "Two-Face" in TDK. Sure it was alluded to when he said he was "half" dead and stuff, but pretty sure not a lot of people are complaining about that. I'm completely fine with Fox simply saying that the batsuit would be good against 'cats' in TDK, even if there's no similar line in TDKR. I do wish the Joker was going to be referenced at least in passing though
4:03PM on 06/03/2012
@SauronsBANE - Harvey Dent was mentioned as Two-Face in TDK... Now it was about his time in internal affairs at GCPD and not his villain identity but it was still said once.
@SauronsBANE - Harvey Dent was mentioned as Two-Face in TDK... Now it was about his time in internal affairs at GCPD and not his villain identity but it was still said once.
12:36AM on 06/04/2012
oh wow you're completely right, my mistake. dont know how i forgot about that
oh wow you're completely right, my mistake. dont know how i forgot about that
9:57PM on 06/02/2012
Pfister's last film as DP? man that SUCKS
Pfister's last film as DP? man that SUCKS
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7:42PM on 06/02/2012
I don't like that they fail to even mention the Joker at all in this film. It lessens the impact and import of the character. Batman is defined by the Joker.

That said, I know DKR takes place 8 years later and Batman begins the film in pretty bad shape. I'm curious if there will be some indirect reference to the struggle between the two of them and the toll it has taken on Bruce Wayne since DK? If not, it kind of lessens Dark Knight. If the Joker was just some one time, fly by night villain
I don't like that they fail to even mention the Joker at all in this film. It lessens the impact and import of the character. Batman is defined by the Joker.

That said, I know DKR takes place 8 years later and Batman begins the film in pretty bad shape. I'm curious if there will be some indirect reference to the struggle between the two of them and the toll it has taken on Bruce Wayne since DK? If not, it kind of lessens Dark Knight. If the Joker was just some one time, fly by night villain then the Dark Knight loses some of its depth in my opinion. We shall see.
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6:02PM on 06/02/2012
I think Leo would have done a fine job and Riddler he is a classic character, so he would've been good. But since Nolan is ending his bat-verse with this film, I think Bane was a good choice. As some have already said, he is very intelligent, and strong - something Batman hasnt faced yet, and in the comics he did break the bat, so it's a fitting end. For those who want to read up a cheapy comic to learn about Bane, i suggest Batman VS Bane (they dont actually fight in it) but it has Bane's
I think Leo would have done a fine job and Riddler he is a classic character, so he would've been good. But since Nolan is ending his bat-verse with this film, I think Bane was a good choice. As some have already said, he is very intelligent, and strong - something Batman hasnt faced yet, and in the comics he did break the bat, so it's a fitting end. For those who want to read up a cheapy comic to learn about Bane, i suggest Batman VS Bane (they dont actually fight in it) but it has Bane's origin and his relationship to Ra's and Talia - it's a good appetizer for Rises.
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3:54PM on 06/02/2012
Guy Pearce would have made an awesome Riddler for Nolan....
Guy Pearce would have made an awesome Riddler for Nolan....
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5:01PM on 06/02/2012
YES!
YES!
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2:43PM on 06/02/2012
DiCaprio would have been a hell of a lot better than Depp. Johnny Depp's penchant for quirky roles has become annoying over the past several years.
DiCaprio would have been a hell of a lot better than Depp. Johnny Depp's penchant for quirky roles has become annoying over the past several years.
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1:43PM on 06/02/2012
the DoP position is losing a great one in Pfister.
the DoP position is losing a great one in Pfister.
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1:30PM on 06/02/2012

Would not mind it.

Great actor.
Great actor.
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9:56AM on 06/02/2012
I wouldn't take it so deeply with the whole Riddler thing, because Nolan did mention earlier on as well that he wanted something not similar to the Joker. That picture by the way of Selina Kyle is hot, yet badass.
I wouldn't take it so deeply with the whole Riddler thing, because Nolan did mention earlier on as well that he wanted something not similar to the Joker. That picture by the way of Selina Kyle is hot, yet badass.
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7:56AM on 06/02/2012
Stop belly aching about Leo as the Riddler.
1. it didnt happen
2. Nolan knows his casting.
3. I bet you also said the same when you heard Ledger as Joker and Hardy as Bane.
Stop belly aching about Leo as the Riddler.
1. it didnt happen
2. Nolan knows his casting.
3. I bet you also said the same when you heard Ledger as Joker and Hardy as Bane.
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4:52AM on 06/02/2012

Reusing Inception actors

Is it me or is Nolan inclined towards resusing his Inception actors to much!even though most of em are not suitable to be in a Batman film..dicaprio as riddler terrible idea...p.s hathaway as catwoman.. not buyin it...isnt catwomen suppose to be hot and sexy!
Is it me or is Nolan inclined towards resusing his Inception actors to much!even though most of em are not suitable to be in a Batman film..dicaprio as riddler terrible idea...p.s hathaway as catwoman.. not buyin it...isnt catwomen suppose to be hot and sexy!
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5:58AM on 06/02/2012
Did you read the article bud? It wasn't Nolan who wanted the Riddler to be Decaprio...

This might help

"David Goyer said that at the premiere of The Dark Knight, Warner Bros. executives were already talking about a villain for The Dark Knight Rises — “it’s gonna be The Riddler, and we want it to be Leonardo DiCaprio…”

If your saying that Hardy won't make a good bane? i dare say wait and see, Nolan has yet to fail to deliver.
Did you read the article bud? It wasn't Nolan who wanted the Riddler to be Decaprio...

This might help

"David Goyer said that at the premiere of The Dark Knight, Warner Bros. executives were already talking about a villain for The Dark Knight Rises — “it’s gonna be The Riddler, and we want it to be Leonardo DiCaprio…”

If your saying that Hardy won't make a good bane? i dare say wait and see, Nolan has yet to fail to deliver.
9:48AM on 06/02/2012
It's not just you. He's reused quite a few. But Nolan could make anyone suitable to be in a Batman film.
It's not just you. He's reused quite a few. But Nolan could make anyone suitable to be in a Batman film.
10:36AM on 06/02/2012
reusing inception actors too much? What does too much mean? This movie is the only movie he's made after Inception, so I don't think he could use them "too" much.
reusing inception actors too much? What does too much mean? This movie is the only movie he's made after Inception, so I don't think he could use them "too" much.
11:14AM on 06/02/2012
Can't blame Nolan.... it helps when you've established some rapport with your actors, and they happen to be some of the most brightest and freshest talents in Hollywood.
Can't blame Nolan.... it helps when you've established some rapport with your actors, and they happen to be some of the most brightest and freshest talents in Hollywood.
1:22AM on 06/02/2012
You know, a part of me will always wonder whether or not William Fichtner's 'bank manager' in The Dark Knight wasn't a wink and a nod toward the Penguin just as Coleman Reese was an almost obvious nod toward the Riddler.

Aside from little things (Fichtner's natural birdlike face, he's running a 'front' for criminal activity much like the Iceberg Lounge) here's my evidence:

1.) The bank manager was the 'anarchy' in Joker's heist that almost derailed it...first the genuine panic as Joker
You know, a part of me will always wonder whether or not William Fichtner's 'bank manager' in The Dark Knight wasn't a wink and a nod toward the Penguin just as Coleman Reese was an almost obvious nod toward the Riddler.

Aside from little things (Fichtner's natural birdlike face, he's running a 'front' for criminal activity much like the Iceberg Lounge) here's my evidence:

1.) The bank manager was the 'anarchy' in Joker's heist that almost derailed it...first the genuine panic as Joker scrambles for cover after the manager opens fire, then that slow shot of Joker turning his head to the side quizzically after he's shot the manager. Like he was impressed.

2.) Like Harvey Dent, he lets him live...and departs with a souvenir (coin & gun for Harvey, gas grenade for the manager) and that line of wisdom 'what doesn't kill you makes you stranger.' Is Joker hoping he just gave him that little 'push' towards madness? Joker clearly wants to create other people like him, he saw the potential in Harvey Dent, and I think he did in the Bank Manager too.

3.) Where does Joker shoot him? The gut and the knees. When he recovers, he'll almost certainly be hunched over to one degree or another, requiring a cane (or umbrella?) to move.

4.) Penguin always fancies himself a 'gentleman of crime' in the comics. And after being shot, the Bank Manager goes on and on about how criminals used to have honor and respect.

Just a little theory I have. Not that they'd ever do it in these films...but I wonder if Goyer & Jon Nolan did that intentionally. Have Riddler and Penguin "in the movie" without anyone being any the wiser.
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4:45AM on 06/02/2012
Wow. Gotta' say I never would have thought of that, but you sir are one of the few people who has a solid notion without sounding like a crazy conspiracy theorist. Example of crazy : "OMG, is that the Superman symbol in the Batman teaser poster??!!!" Hats-off to you. Now I'm actually hoping they DID really mean for the bank manager to be a nod to Penguin. That would be basass as f**k.
Wow. Gotta' say I never would have thought of that, but you sir are one of the few people who has a solid notion without sounding like a crazy conspiracy theorist. Example of crazy : "OMG, is that the Superman symbol in the Batman teaser poster??!!!" Hats-off to you. Now I'm actually hoping they DID really mean for the bank manager to be a nod to Penguin. That would be basass as f**k.
4:14PM on 06/02/2012
that was pretty clever, but could you explain what you mean about reese being like the riddler? i'm not really into the comics or the older batman movies enough to understand that example
that was pretty clever, but could you explain what you mean about reese being like the riddler? i'm not really into the comics or the older batman movies enough to understand that example
5:34PM on 06/02/2012
One common portrayal of the Riddler is that of a brilliant but unappreciated office drone who turns to crime out of a sheer inferiority complex. Eventually he manages to deduce Batman's identity as Bruce Wayne.

Who is Coleman Reese in the film? A brilliant but unappreciated accountant office drone working for Wayne Enterprises. He deduces Batman's identity, and attempts to blackmail Bruce Wayne over it.

As if that weren't enough...Riddler in the comics often has a name that is a pun
One common portrayal of the Riddler is that of a brilliant but unappreciated office drone who turns to crime out of a sheer inferiority complex. Eventually he manages to deduce Batman's identity as Bruce Wayne.

Who is Coleman Reese in the film? A brilliant but unappreciated accountant office drone working for Wayne Enterprises. He deduces Batman's identity, and attempts to blackmail Bruce Wayne over it.

As if that weren't enough...Riddler in the comics often has a name that is a pun on some word related to puzzles. The best known being Edward Nygma - E. Nygma - Enigma.

Coleman Reese - Mr. Reese - Mysteries.
6:19PM on 06/02/2012
You sir...are a god-damn genius! :)

Those were two pretty 'effing awesome theories, man. The movie/comic/fanboy community needs more people like you in it!
You sir...are a god-damn genius! :)

Those were two pretty 'effing awesome theories, man. The movie/comic/fanboy community needs more people like you in it!
11:41PM on 06/02/2012
well done, sir
well done, sir
7:12PM on 06/03/2012
Hope you don't mind bro, but I had to bump this. F'ing awesome...
Hope you don't mind bro, but I had to bump this. F'ing awesome...
9:45PM on 06/03/2012
For sure. Don't know if this will ever be confirmed or not one way or the other, but they are very clever and interesting theories. If true, they give the series another layer of depth and improve the whole endeavor. I find the Reese/Riddler theory a bit more plausible, but they are both pretty brilliant. Bravo.
For sure. Don't know if this will ever be confirmed or not one way or the other, but they are very clever and interesting theories. If true, they give the series another layer of depth and improve the whole endeavor. I find the Reese/Riddler theory a bit more plausible, but they are both pretty brilliant. Bravo.
10:27PM on 06/03/2012
I wish I could give you a hundred more plus marks, marvelous theory.
I wish I could give you a hundred more plus marks, marvelous theory.
1:10AM on 06/02/2012
"He was also nervous about adding Catwoman, but his brother Jonathan convinced him that she needed to be part of the trilogy."

*cough* Venom *cough*
"He was also nervous about adding Catwoman, but his brother Jonathan convinced him that she needed to be part of the trilogy."

*cough* Venom *cough*
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3:06AM on 06/02/2012
Jonathan Nolan is a capable storyteller who has co-written scripts with Chris to great success. He is not a studio boss forcing villains into a screenplay that the director wanted no part in. These are two different situations. This was not studio interference; this was a brother with writing talent making an argument for a character. I think Chris has every right to respect his brother's input.
Jonathan Nolan is a capable storyteller who has co-written scripts with Chris to great success. He is not a studio boss forcing villains into a screenplay that the director wanted no part in. These are two different situations. This was not studio interference; this was a brother with writing talent making an argument for a character. I think Chris has every right to respect his brother's input.
1:03AM on 06/02/2012
Not happy about Joker not even being mentioned. An off hand comment something like "Did Joker escape again?" "No, (whatever) is threatening Gotham" wouldve satisfied me. It wouldve established at least some Batman/Joker conflicts had happened in the 8 years prior. Like Joker said, theyre destined to do this forever
Not happy about Joker not even being mentioned. An off hand comment something like "Did Joker escape again?" "No, (whatever) is threatening Gotham" wouldve satisfied me. It wouldve established at least some Batman/Joker conflicts had happened in the 8 years prior. Like Joker said, theyre destined to do this forever
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9:46AM on 06/02/2012
I agree. I pictured a brief scene in Arkham in which Harley Quinzel mentioned him . . .
I agree. I pictured a brief scene in Arkham in which Harley Quinzel mentioned him . . .
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12:12AM on 06/02/2012
I think TDKR will be brilliant, and I love Bane as the villain.
But come on, DiCaprio in crazy Nolan villain mode as Riddler would've been pretty awesome.
I think TDKR will be brilliant, and I love Bane as the villain.
But come on, DiCaprio in crazy Nolan villain mode as Riddler would've been pretty awesome.
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10:54PM on 06/01/2012
Interesting stuff, though I feel like I'm the only person who's heart snapped in two when I read this was Wally Pfister's last film, the man is a god with a camera. Damn.
Slight side note that I would have been interested to see Nolan's take on Penguin, Riddler would have been too close to Joker.
Interesting stuff, though I feel like I'm the only person who's heart snapped in two when I read this was Wally Pfister's last film, the man is a god with a camera. Damn.
Slight side note that I would have been interested to see Nolan's take on Penguin, Riddler would have been too close to Joker.
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2:58AM on 06/02/2012
You are not alone in that reaction. I was shocked and disappointed to learn Wally Pfister will no longer be serving as a director of photography. I am certain that he could make a good director, but he worked so well with Chris Nolan. The thought that this is the last collaboration between Nolan and Pfister truly is a letdown.
You are not alone in that reaction. I was shocked and disappointed to learn Wally Pfister will no longer be serving as a director of photography. I am certain that he could make a good director, but he worked so well with Chris Nolan. The thought that this is the last collaboration between Nolan and Pfister truly is a letdown.
9:41AM on 06/02/2012
I still wish Nolan's Penguin had been sitting at the table for the "pencil scene" in TDK . . .
I still wish Nolan's Penguin had been sitting at the table for the "pencil scene" in TDK . . .
10:27PM on 06/01/2012

Would have loved to see the Riddler

But, I'm glad to see Nolan ultimately settled on Bane as the main baddie. I think Riddler would have been a disappointing follow-up to the Joker in regards to being a major threat to Batman. I trust the Nolan Bros. and whatever they have in store for us next month. I can't wait!
But, I'm glad to see Nolan ultimately settled on Bane as the main baddie. I think Riddler would have been a disappointing follow-up to the Joker in regards to being a major threat to Batman. I trust the Nolan Bros. and whatever they have in store for us next month. I can't wait!
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10:11PM on 06/01/2012
Respect this fact: Nolan has had the clout and the balls to make these movies HIS way. Not cowing to the demands of executives or focus groups. This movie won't be taken off the shelves at the last minute to add crappy post-production 3D or make R'as Al Ghul a North Korean or have Batman throw a big cellophane Bat symbol over Bane as a minor inconvenience.

There are only three 'rogues' I consider to be absolutely vital to telling the modern Batman story. Joker, Two-Face, and Catwoman.
Respect this fact: Nolan has had the clout and the balls to make these movies HIS way. Not cowing to the demands of executives or focus groups. This movie won't be taken off the shelves at the last minute to add crappy post-production 3D or make R'as Al Ghul a North Korean or have Batman throw a big cellophane Bat symbol over Bane as a minor inconvenience.

There are only three 'rogues' I consider to be absolutely vital to telling the modern Batman story. Joker, Two-Face, and Catwoman. Each is an important mirror of the Batman character, revealing an important layer of what he's all about. After that, you can pick and choose villains to suit story-telling needs (in Nolan's case, R'as al Ghul, Scarecrow, Bane.)

And thats what sets these movies apart. Every comic-rooted character is there for a reason. From Joe Chill to Sal Maroni. Lucius, Alfred, Gordon...everyone is there to add to the story and the world of Batman. Not to please some fanboy or a Warner Brothers executive. And oh yeah, unlike some superhero movies...Batman actually keeps his mask on throughout every action sequence. Because he's the goddamn batman.
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10:23PM on 06/01/2012
If I could thumbs up your last three sentences, 9 more times, you know I would.
If I could thumbs up your last three sentences, 9 more times, you know I would.
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10:03PM on 06/01/2012
Not sure about DiCaprio in the role, but the Riddler would have been a much better choice for the villain than Bane...
Not sure about DiCaprio in the role, but the Riddler would have been a much better choice for the villain than Bane...
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10:13PM on 06/01/2012
Oh you think so? How was the flick, since you've obviously seen it and have an opinion on it.
Oh you think so? How was the flick, since you've obviously seen it and have an opinion on it.
10:19PM on 06/01/2012
Yes and no. If you know your Batman history, you'd know that yes, The Riddler is intellectually superior and physically inferior to Batman. However, Bane is Batman's intellectual equal and his physical superior...something that neither the mob, Scarecrow, The Joker, Two-Face or Ra-Al Ghul were. Therein lies what makes TDKR different from the previous films. And THAT is why Nolan chose him as the final villain.
Yes and no. If you know your Batman history, you'd know that yes, The Riddler is intellectually superior and physically inferior to Batman. However, Bane is Batman's intellectual equal and his physical superior...something that neither the mob, Scarecrow, The Joker, Two-Face or Ra-Al Ghul were. Therein lies what makes TDKR different from the previous films. And THAT is why Nolan chose him as the final villain.
6:35AM on 06/02/2012
There is not better Villain then Bane, just reading your comment its clear to me you don't know enough about the character. He is Batman's Equal, and then some. Bane is not to be rivalled, his strength isn't even his best asset, its his mind, and how tactical he is. He executes with precision. Theres a reason why in the comics Bane and Batman team up together. Nolan did beyond right by my standards ending this with Bane. I give him more credit for choosing Bane.

Read up on bane a lot
There is not better Villain then Bane, just reading your comment its clear to me you don't know enough about the character. He is Batman's Equal, and then some. Bane is not to be rivalled, his strength isn't even his best asset, its his mind, and how tactical he is. He executes with precision. Theres a reason why in the comics Bane and Batman team up together. Nolan did beyond right by my standards ending this with Bane. I give him more credit for choosing Bane.

Read up on bane a lot more, and i assure you, you will respect the character a lot more.
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9:53PM on 06/01/2012

lol @ the executives

This is the kind of thinking that leads to cinematic turds like John Carter and Battleship being made in the first place. Executives, sit back, get the funding and what-not, run the business end of your company.. but let the job of writing, directing, and generally creating a dynamic and engaging story to the people who's actual job it is to tell them. DiCaprio as Riddler.. eh.. I'm sure Nolan would have made it work, but I can't really see it, myself.. but take it as a good sign of the faith
This is the kind of thinking that leads to cinematic turds like John Carter and Battleship being made in the first place. Executives, sit back, get the funding and what-not, run the business end of your company.. but let the job of writing, directing, and generally creating a dynamic and engaging story to the people who's actual job it is to tell them. DiCaprio as Riddler.. eh.. I'm sure Nolan would have made it work, but I can't really see it, myself.. but take it as a good sign of the faith the WB obviously have in Nolan and co. by letting them decide on the villains THEY wanted, not the exec's. This is what happens when you let talented and creative people 'create.'
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9:37AM on 06/02/2012
John Carter was good.
John Carter was good.
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9:52PM on 06/01/2012
Who the hell is the Ridder?
Who the hell is the Ridder?
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9:47PM on 06/01/2012
I have no problem whatsoever visioning Leo as the Riddler in Nolan's bat-verse. It's not like he'd be dressed in a crazy green outfit w/ a mask or anything. Just a super smart villain keeping Bats on his toes . . .
I have no problem whatsoever visioning Leo as the Riddler in Nolan's bat-verse. It's not like he'd be dressed in a crazy green outfit w/ a mask or anything. Just a super smart villain keeping Bats on his toes . . .
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9:37PM on 06/01/2012

Not calling Catwoman as..."Catwoman" is a bit of a waste IMO

What, they couldn't find a way to call her "Catwoman"? I'm sure in a world where Batman, Joker & Two-Face exist, a character called Catwoman shouldn't be much of a stretch....Just make that name derived "Cat"burgler (which Wayne already called her in the tvspot), and not from, you know, actually Cats. Otherwise she could just be another original creation like Rachel Dawes, whats the point in reinventing a classical character with costumes & everything if you don't even call her in her proper
What, they couldn't find a way to call her "Catwoman"? I'm sure in a world where Batman, Joker & Two-Face exist, a character called Catwoman shouldn't be much of a stretch....Just make that name derived "Cat"burgler (which Wayne already called her in the tvspot), and not from, you know, actually Cats. Otherwise she could just be another original creation like Rachel Dawes, whats the point in reinventing a classical character with costumes & everything if you don't even call her in her proper name??

And I know they are going to manage it perfectly, but to tell the truth, I'm a bit disappointed that Joker won't be mentioned AT ALL...He is the main reason Batman retired & Gotham started to breakdown, so Joker's far-reaching consequences should've atleast be mentioned IMO. Also I was really hoping on Two-Face returning, why use a classic character only for 20 minutes at the end of TDK?

Enough of these nitpicking, its still far & away my most anticipated since 2008. Bring it on, Finally!!!
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4:21PM on 06/02/2012
It's the exact same situation as Harvey Dent not being called "Two-Face" in TDK. Sure it was alluded to when he said he was "half" dead and stuff, but pretty sure not a lot of people are complaining about that. I'm completely fine with Fox simply saying that the batsuit would be good against 'cats' in TDK, even if there's no similar line in TDKR.
It's the exact same situation as Harvey Dent not being called "Two-Face" in TDK. Sure it was alluded to when he said he was "half" dead and stuff, but pretty sure not a lot of people are complaining about that. I'm completely fine with Fox simply saying that the batsuit would be good against 'cats' in TDK, even if there's no similar line in TDKR.
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9:22PM on 06/01/2012
Bane is the man for this.. you'll see.
Bane is the man for this.. you'll see.
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11:43PM on 06/01/2012
Will you show me? [/jokerreference]
Will you show me? [/jokerreference]
8:55PM on 06/01/2012
I can see Nolan making an interesting Riddler with Leo, the same way he did with Heath for the Joker. But I'm glad the Riddler wasn't used.
I can see Nolan making an interesting Riddler with Leo, the same way he did with Heath for the Joker. But I'm glad the Riddler wasn't used.
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8:47PM on 06/01/2012

C.Nolan to studio execs on DiCaprio as Riddler:

"Yeah, I'm gonna have to tell you to back the fuck up and let me finish this trilogy the way the fans want, which I'm pretty sure by now is...my way. Thanks."

Probably didn't say that, but I'm sure that's what he was thinking.
"Yeah, I'm gonna have to tell you to back the fuck up and let me finish this trilogy the way the fans want, which I'm pretty sure by now is...my way. Thanks."

Probably didn't say that, but I'm sure that's what he was thinking.
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