DiCaprio as the Riddler and other interesting tidbits from The Dark Knight Rises

Yesterday the latest issue of Empire Magazine came out. Why does this matter? Well, it was the one we've been getting all those photos from for THE DARK KNIGHT RISES.
Batman News read the article and dropped some interesting tidbits. I thought I would share.
-In Fall of 2008, Christopher Nolan and co-writer David Goyer came up with the ending to The Dark Knight Rises. They didn’t know what the plot would be, or which villains would terrorize Gotham, but they knew it would be the final Batman movie in their trilogy, and they knew how they wanted it to end. Goyer explained that the ending in The Dark Knight Rises is exactly what they talked about 4 years ago — it’s completely unchanged. When Goyer saw that final scene from The Dark Knight Rises, he got a lump in his throat.
-More than a third of the film, 1 hour, was shot in IMAX.
-The Dark Knight Rises is Wally Pfister’s last movie as Director of Photography, he’ll be moving on to pursue a directing career.
-As I mentioned earlier this week, Nolan confirmed that The Joker will not be addressed at all in The Dark Knight Rises. He was also nervous about adding Catwoman, but his brother Jonathan convinced him that she needed to be part of the trilogy.
-David Goyer said that at the premiere of The Dark Knight, Warner Bros. executives were already talking about a villain for The Dark Knight Rises — “it’s gonna be The Riddler, and we want it to be Leonardo DiCaprio…”.
-Christopher Nolan confirmed that Anne Hathaway’s character, Selina Kyle, is never referred to as “Catwoman” in the script.
DiCaprio as Riddler? Hmmmm...can't say I see that.
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If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it (and it's on Netflix instant to boot)
If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it (and it's on Netflix instant to boot)
That said, I know DKR takes place 8 years later and Batman begins the film in pretty bad shape. I'm curious if there will be some indirect reference to the struggle between the two of them and the toll it has taken on Bruce Wayne since DK? If not, it kind of lessens Dark Knight. If the Joker was just some one time, fly by night villain
That said, I know DKR takes place 8 years later and Batman begins the film in pretty bad shape. I'm curious if there will be some indirect reference to the struggle between the two of them and the toll it has taken on Bruce Wayne since DK? If not, it kind of lessens Dark Knight. If the Joker was just some one time, fly by night villain then the Dark Knight loses some of its depth in my opinion. We shall see.
Would not mind it.
1. it didnt happen
2. Nolan knows his casting.
3. I bet you also said the same when you heard Ledger as Joker and Hardy as Bane.
1. it didnt happen
2. Nolan knows his casting.
3. I bet you also said the same when you heard Ledger as Joker and Hardy as Bane.
Reusing Inception actors
Aside from little things (Fichtner's natural birdlike face, he's running a 'front' for criminal activity much like the Iceberg Lounge) here's my evidence:
1.) The bank manager was the 'anarchy' in Joker's heist that almost derailed it...first the genuine panic as Joker
Aside from little things (Fichtner's natural birdlike face, he's running a 'front' for criminal activity much like the Iceberg Lounge) here's my evidence:
1.) The bank manager was the 'anarchy' in Joker's heist that almost derailed it...first the genuine panic as Joker scrambles for cover after the manager opens fire, then that slow shot of Joker turning his head to the side quizzically after he's shot the manager. Like he was impressed.
2.) Like Harvey Dent, he lets him live...and departs with a souvenir (coin & gun for Harvey, gas grenade for the manager) and that line of wisdom 'what doesn't kill you makes you stranger.' Is Joker hoping he just gave him that little 'push' towards madness? Joker clearly wants to create other people like him, he saw the potential in Harvey Dent, and I think he did in the Bank Manager too.
3.) Where does Joker shoot him? The gut and the knees. When he recovers, he'll almost certainly be hunched over to one degree or another, requiring a cane (or umbrella?) to move.
4.) Penguin always fancies himself a 'gentleman of crime' in the comics. And after being shot, the Bank Manager goes on and on about how criminals used to have honor and respect.
Just a little theory I have. Not that they'd ever do it in these films...but I wonder if Goyer & Jon Nolan did that intentionally. Have Riddler and Penguin "in the movie" without anyone being any the wiser.
*cough* Venom *cough*
*cough* Venom *cough*
But come on, DiCaprio in crazy Nolan villain mode as Riddler would've been pretty awesome.
But come on, DiCaprio in crazy Nolan villain mode as Riddler would've been pretty awesome.
Slight side note that I would have been interested to see Nolan's take on Penguin, Riddler would have been too close to Joker.
Slight side note that I would have been interested to see Nolan's take on Penguin, Riddler would have been too close to Joker.
Would have loved to see the Riddler
There are only three 'rogues' I consider to be absolutely vital to telling the modern Batman story. Joker, Two-Face, and Catwoman.
There are only three 'rogues' I consider to be absolutely vital to telling the modern Batman story. Joker, Two-Face, and Catwoman. Each is an important mirror of the Batman character, revealing an important layer of what he's all about. After that, you can pick and choose villains to suit story-telling needs (in Nolan's case, R'as al Ghul, Scarecrow, Bane.)
And thats what sets these movies apart. Every comic-rooted character is there for a reason. From Joe Chill to Sal Maroni. Lucius, Alfred, Gordon...everyone is there to add to the story and the world of Batman. Not to please some fanboy or a Warner Brothers executive. And oh yeah, unlike some superhero movies...Batman actually keeps his mask on throughout every action sequence. Because he's the goddamn batman.
lol @ the executives
Not calling Catwoman as..."Catwoman" is a bit of a waste IMO
And I know they are going to manage it perfectly, but to tell the truth, I'm a bit disappointed that Joker won't be mentioned AT ALL...He is the main reason Batman retired & Gotham started to breakdown, so Joker's far-reaching consequences should've atleast be mentioned IMO. Also I was really hoping on Two-Face returning, why use a classic character only for 20 minutes at the end of TDK?
Enough of these nitpicking, its still far & away my most anticipated since 2008. Bring it on, Finally!!!
C.Nolan to studio execs on DiCaprio as Riddler:
Probably didn't say that, but I'm sure that's what he was thinking.
Probably didn't say that, but I'm sure that's what he was thinking.