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Did Jeremy Renner piss off Marvel and will it cost him his Hawkeye gig?

May. 16, 2013by: Jesse Giroux

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Mark Ruffalo recently said that as far as he knew everyone would be back for THE AVENGERS 2. Well I hate to tell you this Mark but it looks like you might be wrong: CBM has a source claiming that Jeremy Renner is out as Hawkeye and the part might be re-cast.

Why? You might remember that Renner had previously made these comments about how he wasn't too pleased with how his character turned out in THE AVENGERS:

For 90% of the movie, I'm not the character I signed on to play," he said, adding that he would have preferred for Hawkeye not to have been brainwashed. "It's kind of a vacancy. [He's] not even a bad guy, because there's not really a consciousness to him. To take away who that character is and just have him be this robot, essentially, and have him be this minion for evil that Loki uses... I was limited, you know what I mean? I was a terminator in a way. Fun stunts. But is there any sort of emotional content or thought process? No.

Allegedly Marvel isn't happy with Renner's remarks and like other actors that have bad mouthed the studio (Hugo Weaving, Terrence Howard) it looks like his time with Marvel may be coming to an end. So far it doesn't look like Hawkeye will be appearing in any of Marvel's Phase 2 films besides THE AVENGERS 2 (which probably further annoys Renner) and while CBM's source says there's still a small chance Jeremy Renner will return for that movie it's more likely that the part will just be re-cast. The source also hinted that if someone else does sign on to play Hawkeye that there's a possibility that the character would end up in the new television series Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and would become one of the primary characters.

Although none of this has been confirmed by Marvel (of course) I wouldn't be surprised if the part was re-cast and I'd be OK with that. I understand where Renner is coming from and at this point it's probably best for both parties if they just moved on from here. I don't think too many people will have an issue with someone else playing Hawkeye since characters in the Marvel universe have been re-cast before (Edward Norton, Terrence Howard) and to be honest Hawkeye would be a pretty sweet addition to Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. With Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch joining the team in THE AVENGERS 2 things are going to get very crowded so maybe it would be best for the character if he ended up on the television show.

I'm sure that if this is true some statement will be made shortly so keep your eyes open for an update.

Extra Tidbit: How would you feel about someone else playing Hawkeye? And do you think adding the character to Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is a good idea?
Source: CBM

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10:23AM on 05/16/2013
I'm okay with Hawkeye being recast since he's done so little up till now. I would also love for Hawkeye to become part of the Shield series and put that right. That said, I think Renner is definately right about the treatment given to the character and has every right to have those feelings.
I'm okay with Hawkeye being recast since he's done so little up till now. I would also love for Hawkeye to become part of the Shield series and put that right. That said, I think Renner is definately right about the treatment given to the character and has every right to have those feelings.
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3:27AM on 05/17/2013
IM pmsurr his first appearance was Thor. That was 2010 i think so yeah id say hed would have prob been up and coming at the time of signing.

IM pmsurr his first appearance was Thor. That was 2010 i think so yeah id say hed would have prob been up and coming at the time of signing.

10:48AM on 05/16/2013
My stint at collecting West Cost Avengers was so short my only knowledge of him comes from the recent Avengers cartoon series - so makes no difference to me - just know he's far more than what Avengers Assembled showed. Makes you wonder why they got a big name to play him...though it's possible that he was still up and coming when he signed on.
My stint at collecting West Cost Avengers was so short my only knowledge of him comes from the recent Avengers cartoon series - so makes no difference to me - just know he's far more than what Avengers Assembled showed. Makes you wonder why they got a big name to play him...though it's possible that he was still up and coming when he signed on.
10:42AM on 05/16/2013
Id rather see a true Hawkeye from the comics.
Id rather see a true Hawkeye from the comics.
10:23AM on 05/16/2013

There can be only one.

Two bow & arrow heroes on television at one time? Can the world take it? In all seriousness, this isn't a big deal. Give it to an up & coming actor and let them run with it.
Two bow & arrow heroes on television at one time? Can the world take it? In all seriousness, this isn't a big deal. Give it to an up & coming actor and let them run with it.
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10:27AM on 05/16/2013

he is desperate

For a franchise.
He will be trying to get into the pirates and James bond franchises now.

Tidbit.
Recast him and then do a full on purple suited Hawkeye to piss him off.
For a franchise.
He will be trying to get into the pirates and James bond franchises now.

Tidbit.
Recast him and then do a full on purple suited Hawkeye to piss him off.
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8:44PM on 05/16/2013
Gotta agree with you here. At one point it became fucking ridiculous how many franchise sequels he was attached to. The dude is a serious actor and a good action star. He should work on getting a franchise of his own.
Gotta agree with you here. At one point it became fucking ridiculous how many franchise sequels he was attached to. The dude is a serious actor and a good action star. He should work on getting a franchise of his own.
11:20AM on 05/16/2013
I agree. He's really a indie-film actor. He's done well in down-to-earth parts in down-to-earth movies. But he keeps connecting himself to these high-concept franchises and he always feels like a bad fit, both for the audience and the studios.
I agree. He's really a indie-film actor. He's done well in down-to-earth parts in down-to-earth movies. But he keeps connecting himself to these high-concept franchises and he always feels like a bad fit, both for the audience and the studios.
10:54AM on 05/16/2013
You're definitely right about the franchise. And I think that might be part of the reason why no one really cared about him in the Avengers. He's just like this tag along guy in the movie, especially after coming off his "take over" of the Bourne franchise and his supposed "take over" of Mission: Impossible.

The guy kills it with action movies, he should just look for his own to do/start instead of hanging on to everyone else.
You're definitely right about the franchise. And I think that might be part of the reason why no one really cared about him in the Avengers. He's just like this tag along guy in the movie, especially after coming off his "take over" of the Bourne franchise and his supposed "take over" of Mission: Impossible.

The guy kills it with action movies, he should just look for his own to do/start instead of hanging on to everyone else.
10:30AM on 05/16/2013
I actually thought Renner was too good of an actor to play an ancillary character like Hawkeye. But if he was looking to play a character with emotional depth in a superhero action movie, then he shouldn't have signed on to be begin with. Don't recast, just have a totally new character in the mix.
I actually thought Renner was too good of an actor to play an ancillary character like Hawkeye. But if he was looking to play a character with emotional depth in a superhero action movie, then he shouldn't have signed on to be begin with. Don't recast, just have a totally new character in the mix.
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10:33AM on 05/16/2013

Who cares

He was goofy in the Avengers. Him and Scarlet should just be dropped.
He was goofy in the Avengers. Him and Scarlet should just be dropped.
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10:37AM on 05/16/2013
They should give Renner a chance to really play the character. At least let him give it another shot on it sown merits. He was unhappy because his hero was written in an anti-hero way. Give him a chance to be the hero.
They should give Renner a chance to really play the character. At least let him give it another shot on it sown merits. He was unhappy because his hero was written in an anti-hero way. Give him a chance to be the hero.
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10:38AM on 05/16/2013
I am actually hoping for a Hawkeye film. The current run for the new Hawkeye comics is so fantastic I could easily see it as its own films. The guy just stated his opinion and he is kind of right (seeing a hero playing a brainwashed villain for the most of the movie and then you have only got the climactic battle to get to know him when somebody finally snaps him out of it).
I am actually hoping for a Hawkeye film. The current run for the new Hawkeye comics is so fantastic I could easily see it as its own films. The guy just stated his opinion and he is kind of right (seeing a hero playing a brainwashed villain for the most of the movie and then you have only got the climactic battle to get to know him when somebody finally snaps him out of it).
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10:51AM on 05/16/2013
It sucks that they might recast Jeremy Renner as Hawkeye, for the amount of screen time he had in the movie he did the character justice. Having said that, I can understand Renner's frustrations as he was more of a filler character than the actual superhero. But then again, going into the movie there was no emotional investment in the audience for his character as it was the first we were seeing of him. Sometimes it just doesn't work out the way you think it will.
If they recast, I think it
It sucks that they might recast Jeremy Renner as Hawkeye, for the amount of screen time he had in the movie he did the character justice. Having said that, I can understand Renner's frustrations as he was more of a filler character than the actual superhero. But then again, going into the movie there was no emotional investment in the audience for his character as it was the first we were seeing of him. Sometimes it just doesn't work out the way you think it will.
If they recast, I think it will be a good idea to add it to the SHIELD tv show. As cool as the show looks, I think they're going to need a Marvel Character in the show to boost up the content, considering it's TV the best bet would be to add a non-power Superhero to the mix. Hawkeye is the best character for that. And if that's the route they go, it would be cool for them to allow the Hawkeye character to move between the TV show and Movies.
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10:51AM on 05/16/2013

I liked him as Hawkeye

but this recast wouldnt bother me as he really wasnt a huge part of the movie, I would still like to see a movie made about him and Black Widow in Budapest though
but this recast wouldnt bother me as he really wasnt a huge part of the movie, I would still like to see a movie made about him and Black Widow in Budapest though
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10:51AM on 05/16/2013
Don't really care if they take him out completely. This would probably give more time for other new characters. But being recasted, I like actor continuity. I like Jeremy Renner, I want him to be as busy as possible with this franchise, so he can stay away from the Bourne series.
Don't really care if they take him out completely. This would probably give more time for other new characters. But being recasted, I like actor continuity. I like Jeremy Renner, I want him to be as busy as possible with this franchise, so he can stay away from the Bourne series.
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10:51AM on 05/16/2013
Marvel needs to get thicker skin. I mean these comments weren't really that bad. You're making kajillions of dollars on these movies. Calm down.
Marvel needs to get thicker skin. I mean these comments weren't really that bad. You're making kajillions of dollars on these movies. Calm down.
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10:53AM on 05/16/2013

Meh

What is this guy on? Hawkeye was only ever going to be an ancillary character in these films. I was surprised that he was even made part of it all if only for an amount of characters in the story already. If anything he should be happy with the pay cheque he got for his small part in the films he's been in.
What is this guy on? Hawkeye was only ever going to be an ancillary character in these films. I was surprised that he was even made part of it all if only for an amount of characters in the story already. If anything he should be happy with the pay cheque he got for his small part in the films he's been in.
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10:54AM on 05/16/2013
It sucks that they might recast Jeremy Renner as Hawkeye, for the amount of screen time he had in the movie he did the character justice. Having said that, I can understand Renner's frustrations as he was more of a filler character than the actual superhero. But then again, going into the movie there was no emotional investment in the audience for his character as it was the first we were seeing of him. Sometimes it just doesn't work out the way you think it will.
If they recast, I think it
It sucks that they might recast Jeremy Renner as Hawkeye, for the amount of screen time he had in the movie he did the character justice. Having said that, I can understand Renner's frustrations as he was more of a filler character than the actual superhero. But then again, going into the movie there was no emotional investment in the audience for his character as it was the first we were seeing of him. Sometimes it just doesn't work out the way you think it will.
If they recast, I think it will be a good idea to add it to the SHIELD tv show. As cool as the show looks, I think they're going to need a Marvel Character in the show to boost up the content, considering it's TV the best bet would be to add a non-power Superhero to the mix. Hawkeye is the best character for that. And if that's the route they go, it would be cool for them to allow the Hawkeye character to move between the TV show and Movies.
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10:57AM on 05/16/2013

as much as i hate re-casting characters...

marvel's hitting 2-0 with their re-casting choices so far.
marvel's hitting 2-0 with their re-casting choices so far.
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10:58AM on 05/16/2013
The thing is Renner is right and his disdain in the part comes from enthusiasm for the character, so it sucks if Marvel looks at it as some kind of slight. I read somewhere that Renner was brought in for snark just in case Downey was unavailable for Avengers. Its a shame they wouldn't throw together a smaller scale Widow/Hawkeye team-up movie.
The thing is Renner is right and his disdain in the part comes from enthusiasm for the character, so it sucks if Marvel looks at it as some kind of slight. I read somewhere that Renner was brought in for snark just in case Downey was unavailable for Avengers. Its a shame they wouldn't throw together a smaller scale Widow/Hawkeye team-up movie.
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11:07AM on 05/16/2013
"You people are so petty...and tiny!"
"You people are so petty...and tiny!"
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11:11AM on 05/16/2013
Is Renner's remark the reason why they're putting Ant-Man for Phase 2? They might even replace Hawkeye with Ant-Man for The Avengers 2's roster. Just a theory. Regarding re-casting for Hawkeye, I think Renner was pretty good but he can be recast. He hasn't nailed it like Robert Downey, Jr. nailed Tony Stark/Iron Man.
Is Renner's remark the reason why they're putting Ant-Man for Phase 2? They might even replace Hawkeye with Ant-Man for The Avengers 2's roster. Just a theory. Regarding re-casting for Hawkeye, I think Renner was pretty good but he can be recast. He hasn't nailed it like Robert Downey, Jr. nailed Tony Stark/Iron Man.
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11:21AM on 05/16/2013
or they can just drop the character altogether
or they can just drop the character altogether
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11:25AM on 05/16/2013

Recast please

I would have recast him even if he praised Marvel. To me, he was a bad fit for Hawkeye. He's never been very funny, and Hawkeye should really be the sarcastic comic relief of the group. I'd say replace him with Neil Patrick Harris, but I want him to play Ant-Man. I say they should go with Nikolaj Coster-Waldau. Handsome, heroic looking, good at sarcasm, and needs a franchise.
I would have recast him even if he praised Marvel. To me, he was a bad fit for Hawkeye. He's never been very funny, and Hawkeye should really be the sarcastic comic relief of the group. I'd say replace him with Neil Patrick Harris, but I want him to play Ant-Man. I say they should go with Nikolaj Coster-Waldau. Handsome, heroic looking, good at sarcasm, and needs a franchise.
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11:54AM on 05/16/2013
That's some inspired casting. As soon as I read Nikolaj Coster-Waldau it was a yes. That would be a great replacement for this role.

I don't think Jeremy Renner was a bad fit for Hawkeye though. The character just wasn't developed enough in one movie, so there's just not enough in the MCU to say whether or not Renner is good as Hawkeye, or even if Hawkeye in general is a good character for the MCU. That's not a slight at Marvel or Renner, it's just that Avengers was to team up Cap,
That's some inspired casting. As soon as I read Nikolaj Coster-Waldau it was a yes. That would be a great replacement for this role.

I don't think Jeremy Renner was a bad fit for Hawkeye though. The character just wasn't developed enough in one movie, so there's just not enough in the MCU to say whether or not Renner is good as Hawkeye, or even if Hawkeye in general is a good character for the MCU. That's not a slight at Marvel or Renner, it's just that Avengers was to team up Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Nick Fury. So it's not like they needed to spend a lot of time highlighting Hawkeye. If they intend to use Hawkeye more in the future, they should spend time developing the character more. That's why if they recast they should use him in TV. If they keep Renner, have him more prominent in Avengers 2 and give him a solo movie or team him up in Cap Am 3 or something.
11:26AM on 05/16/2013
He didn't act any differently when brainwashed...
He didn't act any differently when brainwashed...
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11:27AM on 05/16/2013
Marvel Studio movies are so dull and "by the numbers". The only ones with any saving grace are the Iron Man movies, and it's entirely because of the dialog scenes.
Marvel Studio movies are so dull and "by the numbers". The only ones with any saving grace are the Iron Man movies, and it's entirely because of the dialog scenes.
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11:30AM on 05/16/2013

marvel

Marvel is slowly becoming a cocky and arrogant studio, sounds like they dont give 2 shits about any of there actors and think they are pretty much the top of the food chain. wonder how long they can last with thinking they can just replace everyone. if downey jr doesnt continue in iron man 4 and avengers 2 it will be substantial fail
Marvel is slowly becoming a cocky and arrogant studio, sounds like they dont give 2 shits about any of there actors and think they are pretty much the top of the food chain. wonder how long they can last with thinking they can just replace everyone. if downey jr doesnt continue in iron man 4 and avengers 2 it will be substantial fail
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12:01PM on 05/16/2013
I agree 100%. Frankly, I don't think Marvel will sustain itself past Phase 3. They are already treating their talent like shit, so I doubt the majority of them are really eager to stay on. Once they get to Avengers 3, I doubt RDJ, Chris Evans, Hemsworth, even Sam Jackson will return past that movie. Then they get into the whole recast or move on with other characters conflict. And I don't think they have enough characters that will develop a strong following for one-off films. I highly
I agree 100%. Frankly, I don't think Marvel will sustain itself past Phase 3. They are already treating their talent like shit, so I doubt the majority of them are really eager to stay on. Once they get to Avengers 3, I doubt RDJ, Chris Evans, Hemsworth, even Sam Jackson will return past that movie. Then they get into the whole recast or move on with other characters conflict. And I don't think they have enough characters that will develop a strong following for one-off films. I highly doubt Ant-Man will be as successful as Iron Man, Avengers, Cap Am, etc. Same with Guardians of the Galaxy. I just think the MCU will eventually just trail off into nothingness, and than what does Marvel Studios have.
11:53AM on 05/16/2013
I agree, not seeing Downey in Avengers 2 would kill the movie for me. But Marvel wont let that happen. They'll give him all the money and hookers to make him stay.
I agree, not seeing Downey in Avengers 2 would kill the movie for me. But Marvel wont let that happen. They'll give him all the money and hookers to make him stay.
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11:35AM on 05/16/2013

No! I love Renner!!

Renner is my favorite up and coming action star right now! I thought Bourne was mediocre but he was great in it! (Hansel & Gretal was the shit! I don't care what anyone says!) sure hawk eye was a small part of the avengers and he didn't have much to do but that was just b/c whedon had to balance out the characters. I think if Renner would keep playing hawkeye in small roles he would eventually get his own spin off movie! I think what Renner said about the character in the avengers was
Renner is my favorite up and coming action star right now! I thought Bourne was mediocre but he was great in it! (Hansel & Gretal was the shit! I don't care what anyone says!) sure hawk eye was a small part of the avengers and he didn't have much to do but that was just b/c whedon had to balance out the characters. I think if Renner would keep playing hawkeye in small roles he would eventually get his own spin off movie! I think what Renner said about the character in the avengers was completely understandable and marvel is just using that so they can recast it w/ a smaller name so he will appear in the tv show. I say don't recast! I would love a Renner/hawkeye spinoff movie!
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11:37AM on 05/16/2013
Did Renner actually bring anything to the character that no other actor could? No. It may not be his fault that he wasn't given much in Avengers, but at this point... who cares who plays Hawkeye?
Did Renner actually bring anything to the character that no other actor could? No. It may not be his fault that he wasn't given much in Avengers, but at this point... who cares who plays Hawkeye?
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2:09PM on 05/16/2013
Exactly my point. ANYBODY could have played that character in the Avengers because he didn't really matter.
Exactly my point. ANYBODY could have played that character in the Avengers because he didn't really matter.
1:56PM on 05/16/2013
He didn't bring anything to the character because he was zombiefied for almost the entire movie, which is what he was saying in this quote
He didn't bring anything to the character because he was zombiefied for almost the entire movie, which is what he was saying in this quote
11:52AM on 05/16/2013
I can understand his frustration with the role given to him, but he played a pretty important role for the final battle. Sure he may have not been in the action as much as the rest, but he was the eyes of the battlefield. He pointed his allies to battle as well as covered them. I know that may not seem like much to an actor who wants more spotlight, but I thought his role served as much a useful purpose as the rest.
I'd rather him not be re-cast but that's really not our choice anyway.
I can understand his frustration with the role given to him, but he played a pretty important role for the final battle. Sure he may have not been in the action as much as the rest, but he was the eyes of the battlefield. He pointed his allies to battle as well as covered them. I know that may not seem like much to an actor who wants more spotlight, but I thought his role served as much a useful purpose as the rest.
I'd rather him not be re-cast but that's really not our choice anyway.
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11:55AM on 05/16/2013

I'm giving Renner a thumbs down.

"[He's] not even a bad guy,"...Yes, we know, but he was brainwashed and that turned him bad, BUT he later went back to being good....You're an idiot, Renner.
"[He's] not even a bad guy,"...Yes, we know, but he was brainwashed and that turned him bad, BUT he later went back to being good....You're an idiot, Renner.
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1:54PM on 05/16/2013
He meant even brainwashed and under someones control, its not like he got to play an interesting bad guy. He plays a zombie.
He meant even brainwashed and under someones control, its not like he got to play an interesting bad guy. He plays a zombie.
1:20PM on 05/16/2013
You're missing his point. He meant he was playing "a bad guy" role with no character.
You're missing his point. He meant he was playing "a bad guy" role with no character.
11:58AM on 05/16/2013
I can easily see why he would be frustrated with how Hawkeye was written in The Avengers. They essentially took him out of the film within five minutes of the film. I actually thought not havig him as a major character in The Avengers was one of the few flaws I had with the film.

I really hope he and Marvel can settle this and that he can come back happy to play Hawkeye and actually have an actual story this time.
I can easily see why he would be frustrated with how Hawkeye was written in The Avengers. They essentially took him out of the film within five minutes of the film. I actually thought not havig him as a major character in The Avengers was one of the few flaws I had with the film.

I really hope he and Marvel can settle this and that he can come back happy to play Hawkeye and actually have an actual story this time.
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3:23AM on 05/17/2013
Well he chose the role.
He was obviously asked at some point do you want to play Hawkeye?
He is a good actor and should try getting his own franchise rather than cling on to well established ones.

Honestly i would put money one him turning up in pirates 5 or the next James bond.

Well he chose the role.
He was obviously asked at some point do you want to play Hawkeye?
He is a good actor and should try getting his own franchise rather than cling on to well established ones.

Honestly i would put money one him turning up in pirates 5 or the next James bond.

8:42PM on 05/16/2013
So, why cast an established actor in the part if he is so unimportant a character? That dumbass Hansel and Gretel movie proved he could sell tickets. He was already a respected actor. If the part was so unimportant, and you meant to throw it away, why cast Renner?
So, why cast an established actor in the part if he is so unimportant a character? That dumbass Hansel and Gretel movie proved he could sell tickets. He was already a respected actor. If the part was so unimportant, and you meant to throw it away, why cast Renner?
12:19PM on 05/16/2013
You actually just rehash what's been said in the article everytime don't you?

Hawkeye is a second tier hero in the avengers, his story was fine and the amount he was in the flick was fine.

You actually just rehash what's been said in the article everytime don't you?

Hawkeye is a second tier hero in the avengers, his story was fine and the amount he was in the flick was fine.

12:04PM on 05/16/2013
Why would Hawkeye need be a major character compared the other really well known male superheros? Focusing more on Hawkeye would actually take away from the movie because Hawkeye is nowhere near as well known as the other male superheros.
Why would Hawkeye need be a major character compared the other really well known male superheros? Focusing more on Hawkeye would actually take away from the movie because Hawkeye is nowhere near as well known as the other male superheros.
12:01PM on 05/16/2013
Also, Hawkeye was pretty much just being introduced. He isn't all that well known. Well compared to the other male superheros, so it shouldn't be surprising at all that he doesn't have as many scenes as the others, that there wasn't "any sort of emotional content or thought process".
Also, Hawkeye was pretty much just being introduced. He isn't all that well known. Well compared to the other male superheros, so it shouldn't be surprising at all that he doesn't have as many scenes as the others, that there wasn't "any sort of emotional content or thought process".
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12:02PM on 05/16/2013

Hey everybody, guess what...

Its ok to call something what it is. He's not being a dick, he's not biting the hand that feeds, he's saying what it was to him and what he hoped it would/could be. All good, no one needs to freak out, especially not Marvel. They have another ace in their deck playing one of their lamest Avengers, use him to your advantage.
Its ok to call something what it is. He's not being a dick, he's not biting the hand that feeds, he's saying what it was to him and what he hoped it would/could be. All good, no one needs to freak out, especially not Marvel. They have another ace in their deck playing one of their lamest Avengers, use him to your advantage.
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12:05PM on 05/16/2013
He's not being a dick, but he's being an idiot. He said "[He's] not even a bad guy,"...Yes, we know, but he was brainwashed and that turned him bad, but he later went back to being good.
He's not being a dick, but he's being an idiot. He said "[He's] not even a bad guy,"...Yes, we know, but he was brainwashed and that turned him bad, but he later went back to being good.
12:05PM on 05/16/2013
couldn't agree more. He's basically saying he hopes he gets more to work with in future installments.
couldn't agree more. He's basically saying he hopes he gets more to work with in future installments.
12:04PM on 05/16/2013

Who cares...

Hawkeye sucks, haha
Hawkeye sucks, haha
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12:05PM on 05/16/2013

I completely agree with Jeremy on this one

The Empire of Marvel needs to settle themselves down, because Jeremy is right. He was the one character out of the whole Avengers crew who we knew the very little about, and who I was looking very forward to knowing and seeing more of. I'd rather see more of Hawkeye than Thor. His role in The Avengers was one of the biggest disappointments in The Avengers, and is just one of the reasons the film came up a little short. He's right, he was like a terminator and wasn't allow much of a chance with
The Empire of Marvel needs to settle themselves down, because Jeremy is right. He was the one character out of the whole Avengers crew who we knew the very little about, and who I was looking very forward to knowing and seeing more of. I'd rather see more of Hawkeye than Thor. His role in The Avengers was one of the biggest disappointments in The Avengers, and is just one of the reasons the film came up a little short. He's right, he was like a terminator and wasn't allow much of a chance with his character.
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12:07PM on 05/16/2013
We know very little about him because he's not a well known superhero. Obviously people, especially for the first movie, would rather have the other male superheros focused on more. He's pretty much just being introduced.
We know very little about him because he's not a well known superhero. Obviously people, especially for the first movie, would rather have the other male superheros focused on more. He's pretty much just being introduced.
12:07PM on 05/16/2013
I love how he was in 3 big franchises {Avengers, Mission Impossible, The Bourne Legacy} last year but none of them is working out. He was rumoured to take over Cruise but everyone still loves Cruise, Bourne wasn't as good as the Matt Damon films and now he's getting kicked out of The Avengers.

It reminds me of when Vin Diesel was the 'It' boy of the early 2000's and he had Fast and Furious, Riddick and Triple X.
I love how he was in 3 big franchises {Avengers, Mission Impossible, The Bourne Legacy} last year but none of them is working out. He was rumoured to take over Cruise but everyone still loves Cruise, Bourne wasn't as good as the Matt Damon films and now he's getting kicked out of The Avengers.

It reminds me of when Vin Diesel was the 'It' boy of the early 2000's and he had Fast and Furious, Riddick and Triple X.
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12:49PM on 05/16/2013

Reading the comments are hilarious.

Obviously he was sold on Hawkeye by Marvel explaining who the character is, perhaps showing him some comics with the character in, explaining his arc and how he's emotionally tied to Widow, etc, etc. So he signs on.

But here he's right. He did have a small and limited part in which he spent half the film playing an emotionless robot and the other half jumping around doing awesome stunts but not expanding or even creating a character.

He's not lashing out at the studio, neither is he
Obviously he was sold on Hawkeye by Marvel explaining who the character is, perhaps showing him some comics with the character in, explaining his arc and how he's emotionally tied to Widow, etc, etc. So he signs on.

But here he's right. He did have a small and limited part in which he spent half the film playing an emotionless robot and the other half jumping around doing awesome stunts but not expanding or even creating a character.

He's not lashing out at the studio, neither is he saying that it SHOULD have been different or that his role SHOULD have been bigger. All he's saying is he was sold on the character one way, and the movie turned out with him in another way.

Personally I hope Marvel don't get all huffy about it, there's no need to. Everyone in the world knows that role was limited (perfectly serviceable and necessary, but limited) and I'm sure we'd all like to see where Renner could take a more fleshed out version of the character. Whedon is the go to guy for awesome character development, I don't think anyone should be worried that Hawkeye won't get fleshed out in some way or other.
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1:02PM on 05/16/2013

Right or wrong is irrelevant...

He broke a cardinal rule of business. We don't know what the meetings were like, so we can't say if Marvel promised anything more than a shot to play a supporting role in The Avengers; or if he meant that he assumed Hawkeye would have a bigger role than what he wound up with, not because of studio promises, but because of some comic book research. You don't insult your bosses. Is film art? Yes, but it's also a business. Imagine your job, for a moment. Something happens at work, so you stand by
He broke a cardinal rule of business. We don't know what the meetings were like, so we can't say if Marvel promised anything more than a shot to play a supporting role in The Avengers; or if he meant that he assumed Hawkeye would have a bigger role than what he wound up with, not because of studio promises, but because of some comic book research. You don't insult your bosses. Is film art? Yes, but it's also a business. Imagine your job, for a moment. Something happens at work, so you stand by the watercooler and bitch and moan about how your boss is an idiot who made your life so much worse and totally screwed the pooch on the Johnson account. He happens to be behind you. Tell me you don't get fired, or at least chewed out with a straight face...
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2:07PM on 05/16/2013
Well put!
Well put!
1:19PM on 05/16/2013
I liked how they used Hawkeye in The Avengers it came off as the only plausible way to give the character ample screen time amongst all the other stars. That being said they could really make a connection with the tv show and the films by recasting Hawkeye and Black Widow and making their characters some of the main stars of the tv show and then they can cross them over into the movies. Hell the tv show could be a great way to introduce a rebooted Daredevil to everyone.
I liked how they used Hawkeye in The Avengers it came off as the only plausible way to give the character ample screen time amongst all the other stars. That being said they could really make a connection with the tv show and the films by recasting Hawkeye and Black Widow and making their characters some of the main stars of the tv show and then they can cross them over into the movies. Hell the tv show could be a great way to introduce a rebooted Daredevil to everyone.
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1:57PM on 05/16/2013
K, he didn't say anything to detrimental against Marvel...
BUT!!! He got paid 4 million dollars for 12 minutes of screen time, be grateful and don't bite the hand that feeds you.. Especially for a part, or a character that no one would miss if left out of the Avengers. I say don't even recast him, just introduce someone knew that can handle a solo film, and give Hawkeye and Black Widow a desk job there characters are useless.. i always laugh when i see the Avengers camera shot when all
K, he didn't say anything to detrimental against Marvel...
BUT!!! He got paid 4 million dollars for 12 minutes of screen time, be grateful and don't bite the hand that feeds you.. Especially for a part, or a character that no one would miss if left out of the Avengers. I say don't even recast him, just introduce someone knew that can handle a solo film, and give Hawkeye and Black Widow a desk job there characters are useless.. i always laugh when i see the Avengers camera shot when all the Hero's are in the circle and you see Widow loading a clip into her hand gun..
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4:47PM on 05/17/2013
Avenger salaries

Hulk: 3-4 million after bonuses
Thor : Salary 3-4 million after bonuses
Hawkeye: Salary 3-4 million after bonuses
Captain America: 3-4 million after bonuses
(^all were on the same contract^)
Nick Fury: 5-6 million after bonuses
Black Widow,: 5-6 million after bonuses
Iron Man: 50 million after bonuses
Avenger salaries

Hulk: 3-4 million after bonuses
Thor : Salary 3-4 million after bonuses
Hawkeye: Salary 3-4 million after bonuses
Captain America: 3-4 million after bonuses
(^all were on the same contract^)
Nick Fury: 5-6 million after bonuses
Black Widow,: 5-6 million after bonuses
Iron Man: 50 million after bonuses
2:30AM on 05/17/2013
He got 4 million and I read these reports that Hemsworth and Evans didnt even break a million for their roles?
He got 4 million and I read these reports that Hemsworth and Evans didnt even break a million for their roles?
1:59PM on 05/16/2013
Renner kind of had a point. I'm not saying you have to stick Hawkeye in a purple costume, though they did a reasonable job of replicating everyone else's look so why not, but one of Hawkeye's biggest draws as a comicbook character is his attitude. He's generally snarky and sarcastic, and making him a stooge for Loki for most of the film didn't do him justice. It's that interpretation of the character (or lack thereof) that makes him seem disposable to the producers (or whoever). If they give us
Renner kind of had a point. I'm not saying you have to stick Hawkeye in a purple costume, though they did a reasonable job of replicating everyone else's look so why not, but one of Hawkeye's biggest draws as a comicbook character is his attitude. He's generally snarky and sarcastic, and making him a stooge for Loki for most of the film didn't do him justice. It's that interpretation of the character (or lack thereof) that makes him seem disposable to the producers (or whoever). If they give us a more energetic take on the character, he'll seem an infinitely more important member of the team, and one worth of a decent paycheck for the actor.
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2:24PM on 05/16/2013

I see both sides ...

Renner has a valid point, but he was a key lynch pin to that story. He would not have that type of role twice, so he could be the Hawkeye that he signed on to be for as long as he can physically do it. Marvel does cut its losses, but I like that they want the actors to want to be there. Mark Ruffalo and Don Cheadle brought more passion to their characters anyway. Hugo did not even know about, he got to be probably top 3 most bad-ass looking villains ever, and he is going to complain? I think
Renner has a valid point, but he was a key lynch pin to that story. He would not have that type of role twice, so he could be the Hawkeye that he signed on to be for as long as he can physically do it. Marvel does cut its losses, but I like that they want the actors to want to be there. Mark Ruffalo and Don Cheadle brought more passion to their characters anyway. Hugo did not even know about, he got to be probably top 3 most bad-ass looking villains ever, and he is going to complain? I think Renner should have phrased his critique with a positive spin, like really cannot wait to show off this character, and if it cost him, he is a professional and can expect that type of response. Worst case he gets to do the 3+ franchises he has built, he will survive.
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2:42PM on 05/16/2013

Both Sides need to sit down together

i can see from Renner's perspective what he's talking about but at the same time though if you're getting paid money ( a shit ton of money) to play a character then you can't complain. As for Marvel, they shouldn't take offense to everything that's said. I don't think Renner was trying to diss Marvel in anyway. I've read his statement and to me he's just hinting that hawkeye should have a more active role for the next film which is a good idea. IMO, they need to sit down and talk cause Renner
i can see from Renner's perspective what he's talking about but at the same time though if you're getting paid money ( a shit ton of money) to play a character then you can't complain. As for Marvel, they shouldn't take offense to everything that's said. I don't think Renner was trying to diss Marvel in anyway. I've read his statement and to me he's just hinting that hawkeye should have a more active role for the next film which is a good idea. IMO, they need to sit down and talk cause Renner is a talented actor and i would hate to see him get replaced.
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3:22PM on 05/16/2013

WTF That aint a big deal...

I loved renner as hawkeye and i thought he wouldnt be able to deliver..but he did fantastically....dont recast him...just give him some more lines...thats a sign of a good committing actor who is willing to act and wants a challenge emotionally... Disney just for once listen to your actor and act like a good big brother...personally when ever they recast an actor in a film series i lose interest of the film altogether.
I loved renner as hawkeye and i thought he wouldnt be able to deliver..but he did fantastically....dont recast him...just give him some more lines...thats a sign of a good committing actor who is willing to act and wants a challenge emotionally... Disney just for once listen to your actor and act like a good big brother...personally when ever they recast an actor in a film series i lose interest of the film altogether.
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3:30PM on 05/16/2013
That's CRAP. Marvel is recasting it to find someone who's willing to be in the SHIELD show as well and Renner does not want to commit to a tv show he's a movie star. That's gotta be it cause those aren't really bad comments he made.
That's CRAP. Marvel is recasting it to find someone who's willing to be in the SHIELD show as well and Renner does not want to commit to a tv show he's a movie star. That's gotta be it cause those aren't really bad comments he made.
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8:51PM on 05/16/2013
The most logical conclusion I've read here.
The most logical conclusion I've read here.
3:42PM on 05/16/2013

One of the few recastable characters

Because his screen time was so limited I really think anyone could play the role and Renner would be a forgotten fart in the wind. His character is more suited for the crappy looking tv show anyways. Hawkeye and Luke Cage are TV material and should stay out of the big budget films altogether.
Because his screen time was so limited I really think anyone could play the role and Renner would be a forgotten fart in the wind. His character is more suited for the crappy looking tv show anyways. Hawkeye and Luke Cage are TV material and should stay out of the big budget films altogether.
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3:45PM on 05/16/2013
Hawkeye wasn't utilized enough to make an impact if he was recast or absent entirely. For the general movie going public, the Hawkeye arc was just there to break up viewings of Iron Man, Cap, Thor, and the Hulk. He was a minor character in the eyes of most ticket buyers, so dropping him from the cinematic universe and putting him in the S.H.I.E.L.D. show wouldn't be a bad idea.
Hawkeye wasn't utilized enough to make an impact if he was recast or absent entirely. For the general movie going public, the Hawkeye arc was just there to break up viewings of Iron Man, Cap, Thor, and the Hulk. He was a minor character in the eyes of most ticket buyers, so dropping him from the cinematic universe and putting him in the S.H.I.E.L.D. show wouldn't be a bad idea.
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4:02PM on 05/16/2013
This feels like nonsense. Renner made those comments ages ago, and their impact was minimal to none.
This feels like nonsense. Renner made those comments ages ago, and their impact was minimal to none.
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9:38PM on 05/16/2013
I'd say it's more about contingency planning, if this is even real. Think about it: you've got a multi-billion dollar franchise (when you include DVD sales, merch etc), and you have 6 or 7 key linchpins in keeping this cash cow alive (Whedon, Downey Jr, the rest of the primary cast). It is basic redundancy & risk management planning to have an idea as to who would step in if one or more was to go. It is also a financial exercise: "if so & so is less popular & more expensive, can we swap them
I'd say it's more about contingency planning, if this is even real. Think about it: you've got a multi-billion dollar franchise (when you include DVD sales, merch etc), and you have 6 or 7 key linchpins in keeping this cash cow alive (Whedon, Downey Jr, the rest of the primary cast). It is basic redundancy & risk management planning to have an idea as to who would step in if one or more was to go. It is also a financial exercise: "if so & so is less popular & more expensive, can we swap them out with a cheaper actor who'll have more impact, and will the loss of goodwill affect us at the box office, or can we overcome it with marketing?" It's business. I don't like it, but it's business.
8:49PM on 05/16/2013
Maybe Marvel is looking to cut costs and recasting Hawkeye with an unknown would let them save a few million. So, they leak this to the press early, get everyone ready for it and bob's your uncle.
Maybe Marvel is looking to cut costs and recasting Hawkeye with an unknown would let them save a few million. So, they leak this to the press early, get everyone ready for it and bob's your uncle.
4:21PM on 05/16/2013
It really seems like his comments about his role in the Avengers was a half of a quote. But yes, almost a year after his comment it kind of seems weird that Marvel would take action now.
It really seems like his comments about his role in the Avengers was a half of a quote. But yes, almost a year after his comment it kind of seems weird that Marvel would take action now.
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5:19PM on 05/16/2013
I've bad idea'd it for the recast question. For me, Hawkeye was a good character, being under Loki's control from pretty much the start threw a spanner in the works for pretty much the whole SHIELD operation, which made him a good unintentional villain. After he snapped out of it, he was b-a-d-a-s-s in the battle of New York and for that alone Renner should be happy, maybe he didn't get what he expected, but IMO he got the best of both worlds.
And I just generally don't like recasts, I'd
I've bad idea'd it for the recast question. For me, Hawkeye was a good character, being under Loki's control from pretty much the start threw a spanner in the works for pretty much the whole SHIELD operation, which made him a good unintentional villain. After he snapped out of it, he was b-a-d-a-s-s in the battle of New York and for that alone Renner should be happy, maybe he didn't get what he expected, but IMO he got the best of both worlds.
And I just generally don't like recasts, I'd prefer Renner over any new actor.
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5:25PM on 05/16/2013

Send Him Packing!!

Please send him packing. In my opinion Renner sucks give him his walking papers, and be done with it. maybe he can go do Suck Locker 2. Sorry to bash he just gets on my nerves kinda like Halle Berry.
Please send him packing. In my opinion Renner sucks give him his walking papers, and be done with it. maybe he can go do Suck Locker 2. Sorry to bash he just gets on my nerves kinda like Halle Berry.
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11:36PM on 05/16/2013
The Hurt Locker was phenomenal. Renner owned in that film.
The Hurt Locker was phenomenal. Renner owned in that film.
5:54PM on 05/16/2013
Recasting always bugs me. Either bring him back or write Hawkeye out entirely.
Recasting always bugs me. Either bring him back or write Hawkeye out entirely.
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7:01PM on 05/16/2013
I'm not surprised by this news. Pre-Avengers I remember there being rumors that Hawkeye might get a spin-off movie in phase 2 (with or without the other SHIELD characters like Black Widow and Nick Fury). That idea seems to have been dropped (or replaced with the tv show). With Avengers 2 adding more people to the cast, I'm sure he feels his screen time will be less than the first film. I understand why he's upset, but I hope they don't recast him since I like continuity. Until I see the the
I'm not surprised by this news. Pre-Avengers I remember there being rumors that Hawkeye might get a spin-off movie in phase 2 (with or without the other SHIELD characters like Black Widow and Nick Fury). That idea seems to have been dropped (or replaced with the tv show). With Avengers 2 adding more people to the cast, I'm sure he feels his screen time will be less than the first film. I understand why he's upset, but I hope they don't recast him since I like continuity. Until I see the the SHIELD show, I'm not sure if it would work better with him or not.
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7:18PM on 05/16/2013

Kind of makes sense

Renner's on his way to the A-list as an action star, and Hawkeye will never be a major player like Iron Man or Cap in the Cinematic Universe. I doubt Marvel wants to pay A-List money for a character that isn't that pivotal. "He bad mouthed our company, so we had to let him go" sounds a lot better to the public than "we're cheap bastards and don't want to pay for him, so we're just gonna find an unknown who will work for 1/8 of Renner's pay".
Renner's on his way to the A-list as an action star, and Hawkeye will never be a major player like Iron Man or Cap in the Cinematic Universe. I doubt Marvel wants to pay A-List money for a character that isn't that pivotal. "He bad mouthed our company, so we had to let him go" sounds a lot better to the public than "we're cheap bastards and don't want to pay for him, so we're just gonna find an unknown who will work for 1/8 of Renner's pay".
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7:20PM on 05/16/2013

Suck it up, Renner.

He signed on to play a character. That character was used in service of the STORY. I don't know about you, but I thought Hawkeye had a cool arc in the movie, you got to learn a bit of his backstory and his connection to Black Widow, he got to do some cool shit and kick some Chitauri butt. I don't see what his problem is.
He signed on to play a character. That character was used in service of the STORY. I don't know about you, but I thought Hawkeye had a cool arc in the movie, you got to learn a bit of his backstory and his connection to Black Widow, he got to do some cool shit and kick some Chitauri butt. I don't see what his problem is.
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11:27PM on 05/16/2013
At least he HAD an arc. Almost nobody else got one.
At least he HAD an arc. Almost nobody else got one.
8:45PM on 05/16/2013
His arc sucked ass.
His arc sucked ass.
7:27PM on 05/16/2013

Do your homework first Jeremy

Actually Hawkeye did start out as a reluctant villian very early on in the comics, before joining the Avengers. Research, Renner, Research!
Actually Hawkeye did start out as a reluctant villian very early on in the comics, before joining the Avengers. Research, Renner, Research!
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7:53PM on 05/16/2013

Yes and Yes

Yes i would be fine with recasting, and yes i think it would be great to have him in the shield tv show.
i was never a big fan of renner as the casting choice anyway.
Yes i would be fine with recasting, and yes i think it would be great to have him in the shield tv show.
i was never a big fan of renner as the casting choice anyway.
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8:39PM on 05/16/2013

Why would he give a shit?

Jeremy Renner is just as big a star as Chris Evans or Chris Hemsworth. When he was cast in The Avengers he was fresh off his Oscar nom for Hurt Locker, and his career was on a major upswing. I'm sure they promised him the world to get him in there. Then they saddle him with an awful part in what amounted to an extended cameo. He was easily the least intregal part of the movie or team. I would be pissed also,.

Rennet is a great actor, and they kind of shit on him. It's not like the guy
Jeremy Renner is just as big a star as Chris Evans or Chris Hemsworth. When he was cast in The Avengers he was fresh off his Oscar nom for Hurt Locker, and his career was on a major upswing. I'm sure they promised him the world to get him in there. Then they saddle him with an awful part in what amounted to an extended cameo. He was easily the least intregal part of the movie or team. I would be pissed also,.

Rennet is a great actor, and they kind of shit on him. It's not like the guy doesn't have a million other projects to work on if h wants. Probably best if he bails.

The negotiations and infighting are beginning to show the cracks in Marvel's armor.
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10:53PM on 05/16/2013
Shouldn'ta been talkin dat shit...
Shouldn'ta been talkin dat shit...
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11:21PM on 05/16/2013
Don't really care. Renner's overrated.
Don't really care. Renner's overrated.
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7:13AM on 05/17/2013
Could not agree more, hes been in three of the most overrated films of the last decade.
Hurt locker, the town and the avengers.
He is also in the very poor Bourne legacy, witch hunters.
His best role to date is MI4.
Could not agree more, hes been in three of the most overrated films of the last decade.
Hurt locker, the town and the avengers.
He is also in the very poor Bourne legacy, witch hunters.
His best role to date is MI4.
11:37PM on 05/16/2013
Overrated my ass. Have you seen The Hurt Locker or The Town? The guy was great both and was nominated for both films back to back years.

The guy is one of the best actors working today.
Overrated my ass. Have you seen The Hurt Locker or The Town? The guy was great both and was nominated for both films back to back years.

The guy is one of the best actors working today.
11:28PM on 05/16/2013

Another thought...

He's lucky he wasn't killed instead of Agent Coulson.

...Or is that now going to be the in plot of Avengers 2 ????? ;)
He's lucky he wasn't killed instead of Agent Coulson.

...Or is that now going to be the in plot of Avengers 2 ????? ;)
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11:45PM on 05/16/2013
Renner is one of my favorite actors and I would hate to see him not return to play Hawkeye again. I think it would me a BIG mistake for Marvel to let him go. And besides he's one of the best actors involved in the Avengers franchise next to Downey Jr, Jackson, Ruffalo, and Hiddleston.

Renner can do much more with the character than Marvel is giving him credit for and also the people on this site. I just think writing him out all together, recasting him, or recasting some no name and putting
Renner is one of my favorite actors and I would hate to see him not return to play Hawkeye again. I think it would me a BIG mistake for Marvel to let him go. And besides he's one of the best actors involved in the Avengers franchise next to Downey Jr, Jackson, Ruffalo, and Hiddleston.

Renner can do much more with the character than Marvel is giving him credit for and also the people on this site. I just think writing him out all together, recasting him, or recasting some no name and putting them on the SHIELD show would all be terrible ideas. Just give Renner something to do with the character in Avengers 2 or give us Hawkeye/Black Widow film.
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9:25AM on 05/17/2013
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
7:10AM on 05/17/2013
I think your the only person that wants him to return.
I think your the only person that wants him to return.
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1:43AM on 05/17/2013
Poor Jeremy Renner. Getting paid millions to appear in the biggest movie of 2012 and he's unhappy about being with Loki for a few scenes. Man, life must suck for him. Hey Marvel, if you're looking to recast Hawkeye, I'd be happy to step into his shoes. I'd be better for you than Renner because I promise not to complain about my character, and I don't have the facial features of a hobbit.
Poor Jeremy Renner. Getting paid millions to appear in the biggest movie of 2012 and he's unhappy about being with Loki for a few scenes. Man, life must suck for him. Hey Marvel, if you're looking to recast Hawkeye, I'd be happy to step into his shoes. I'd be better for you than Renner because I promise not to complain about my character, and I don't have the facial features of a hobbit.
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4:05AM on 05/17/2013
GET A THICK SKIN...oooh my that comment was so hurtful (scarasm) come on...I agree with Jeremy Renner ..yeah we probably shouldnt have said anything ,I can sort of see both sides
GET A THICK SKIN...oooh my that comment was so hurtful (scarasm) come on...I agree with Jeremy Renner ..yeah we probably shouldnt have said anything ,I can sort of see both sides
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4:06AM on 05/17/2013
Marvel is going to be renegotiating with quite a few of their actors before avengers 2. If renner needs to cut in order to get someone like hemsworth or Downey re-signed I'd make that trade. I love renner but if him being in avengers 2 means there's no money for hemsworth I'd let him walk.
Marvel is going to be renegotiating with quite a few of their actors before avengers 2. If renner needs to cut in order to get someone like hemsworth or Downey re-signed I'd make that trade. I love renner but if him being in avengers 2 means there's no money for hemsworth I'd let him walk.
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8:02AM on 05/17/2013
Honestly, that comment pissed them off? Renner need's to relax too, just being apart of of the Marvel universe is an honor in itself.
Honestly, that comment pissed them off? Renner need's to relax too, just being apart of of the Marvel universe is an honor in itself.
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9:29AM on 05/17/2013

Mountain out of molehill

I suspect this story is being made up out of whole cloth to capitalize on some random comments Renner made several months back. If Marvel is making a huge deal about what Renner said, then I suspect it is a cover to avoid paying a fast-rising star what his agent thinks he's worth. But, until the role's recast, I'm dismissing this as just another rumour.
I suspect this story is being made up out of whole cloth to capitalize on some random comments Renner made several months back. If Marvel is making a huge deal about what Renner said, then I suspect it is a cover to avoid paying a fast-rising star what his agent thinks he's worth. But, until the role's recast, I'm dismissing this as just another rumour.
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10:48AM on 05/17/2013
I think Renner is completely right about this. Hawkeye was a TOTAL waste in The Avengers, or about 90% of it, and the story line of having him being a braindead grunt under Loki's spell was nothing but a cliche and didn't do many favors for the character. If Marvel is going to axe him simply over those comments, then I am losing more repsect for them.
I think Renner is completely right about this. Hawkeye was a TOTAL waste in The Avengers, or about 90% of it, and the story line of having him being a braindead grunt under Loki's spell was nothing but a cliche and didn't do many favors for the character. If Marvel is going to axe him simply over those comments, then I am losing more repsect for them.
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11:18AM on 05/17/2013
I don't believe there is any truth to that story, especially if the reports that Downey would bail out if his co-stars were treated like crap were accurate.

Pretty much every critic thought that Renner/Hawkeye was not well-served by The Avengers and Renner's comments are not exactly vitriol. If Marvel was offended by that, I suggest they find another line of work.

P.S.: What that story has in common with Howard and Weaving is beyond me. Howard never said anything wrong about Marvel,
I don't believe there is any truth to that story, especially if the reports that Downey would bail out if his co-stars were treated like crap were accurate.

Pretty much every critic thought that Renner/Hawkeye was not well-served by The Avengers and Renner's comments are not exactly vitriol. If Marvel was offended by that, I suggest they find another line of work.

P.S.: What that story has in common with Howard and Weaving is beyond me. Howard never said anything wrong about Marvel, before or after his firing, and Weaving has not been officially fired after his comments. His character just didn't came back.
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2:12PM on 05/17/2013
As much as Renner was pretty good in avengers lets be honest that hawk eye isn't exactly a critical must be this actor type role. I personally thought that Renner's presence in the series has not been as memorable as some other characters as he comes off as being a little bland whether its his first appearance in Thor or when he wasn't in "terminator" mode. An actor with a little more range of emotion and improvisational skills may actually work to better benefit this character. Might I suggest
As much as Renner was pretty good in avengers lets be honest that hawk eye isn't exactly a critical must be this actor type role. I personally thought that Renner's presence in the series has not been as memorable as some other characters as he comes off as being a little bland whether its his first appearance in Thor or when he wasn't in "terminator" mode. An actor with a little more range of emotion and improvisational skills may actually work to better benefit this character. Might I suggest possible Fassbender for the role. He seems a little taller and his acting range is a lot more complex compared to Renner who seemed a little stale.
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3:08PM on 05/17/2013
What the hell was he supposed to do with that part? He was supposed to display range and complexity as a mindless automaton?
What the hell was he supposed to do with that part? He was supposed to display range and complexity as a mindless automaton?
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9:13PM on 05/17/2013
The more I think about this the more convinced I am that this was likely leaked by Marvel. They are looking to save money in any way possible. They leak that Renner's comments-- which are months old and fairly innocuous-- are the reason he is getting fired. Then they can release him or not bring him back and save the few million for his salary. They leak it in advance so it doesn't create negative press when Avengers 2 is filming. Makes sense.
The more I think about this the more convinced I am that this was likely leaked by Marvel. They are looking to save money in any way possible. They leak that Renner's comments-- which are months old and fairly innocuous-- are the reason he is getting fired. Then they can release him or not bring him back and save the few million for his salary. They leak it in advance so it doesn't create negative press when Avengers 2 is filming. Makes sense.
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7:29AM on 05/18/2013
If Marvel really wants to save money then they should re-cast everyone and hire John Moore to direct a straight to DVD Avengers 2. That'll save them boat loads.
If Marvel really wants to save money then they should re-cast everyone and hire John Moore to direct a straight to DVD Avengers 2. That'll save them boat loads.
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10:47AM on 05/18/2013

Meh

That's what was so great about Marvel, they genuinely gave a crap, now it's all about the bottom dollar and the whole "he said, she said" nonsense. Proof yet again about how too much money can corrupt. I was cool with a few re-casts here and there, for Hulk it turned out for the better (RUFFALO WHAT), but it's starting to become way too jarring at this point, Marvel seems to only care about money now, too many movies (I can seriously do without an Ant-Man movie), re-casts, disputes, etc..
That's what was so great about Marvel, they genuinely gave a crap, now it's all about the bottom dollar and the whole "he said, she said" nonsense. Proof yet again about how too much money can corrupt. I was cool with a few re-casts here and there, for Hulk it turned out for the better (RUFFALO WHAT), but it's starting to become way too jarring at this point, Marvel seems to only care about money now, too many movies (I can seriously do without an Ant-Man movie), re-casts, disputes, etc.. Renner is an excellent actor and he only echoed what every review has said about the otherwise awesome Avengers, I hope they don't re-cast him.
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11:08AM on 05/18/2013

This must be bullshit

The comment made by Renner is in NO way offensive or disrespectful. It's just a statement pointing out the truth. YES, Walking around as a zombie for 3/4 of a movie isn't much of an acting challenge. YES, getting hired to play one part and then not really getting to do it could be a bit of a disappointement.. If Marvel gets upset by this and are thinking about firing him then there is something seriously wrong with our World. Are we no longer allowed to voice ANY opinion at all for fear that we
The comment made by Renner is in NO way offensive or disrespectful. It's just a statement pointing out the truth. YES, Walking around as a zombie for 3/4 of a movie isn't much of an acting challenge. YES, getting hired to play one part and then not really getting to do it could be a bit of a disappointement.. If Marvel gets upset by this and are thinking about firing him then there is something seriously wrong with our World. Are we no longer allowed to voice ANY opinion at all for fear that we might get fired or punished? More likely it's Marvel trying to find a way to fire the to expensive Renner and replace him with a cheaper actor. Dick move, wether you like Renner or not....
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8:43PM on 05/18/2013

My two cents

The reason a chunk of Marvel fans weren't pissed when Edward Norton and Terrance Howard were replaced was because 1) Norton was taking a crap starter (the first movie) and trying to save it, and he's nowhere NEAR that good of an actor and 2) Terrance Howard was decent at being Rhodes, but nether him nor Don Cheadle are who comes to mind when thinking of James Rhodes. I WOULD be pissed if Renner were replaced, because I do like him, and I do see him as the cocky Clint Barton. And I know he's
The reason a chunk of Marvel fans weren't pissed when Edward Norton and Terrance Howard were replaced was because 1) Norton was taking a crap starter (the first movie) and trying to save it, and he's nowhere NEAR that good of an actor and 2) Terrance Howard was decent at being Rhodes, but nether him nor Don Cheadle are who comes to mind when thinking of James Rhodes. I WOULD be pissed if Renner were replaced, because I do like him, and I do see him as the cocky Clint Barton. And I know he's not a superb actor, but it's an action flick, I don't need to dive super far into their psyche. I would rather they keep Hawkeye and not even go with Quicksilver or Scarlet Witch, because with the story line cross over, you know that it's going to be fubar'd.
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8:09PM on 08/02/2014

HAH

Wow, how wrong did the "insider information" turn out to be. Renner ended up on set longer than any of the other avengers from what we can tell. Here's to hoping Joss actually wrote him a character this time tho.
Wow, how wrong did the "insider information" turn out to be. Renner ended up on set longer than any of the other avengers from what we can tell. Here's to hoping Joss actually wrote him a character this time tho.
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