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Disney did not use George Lucas' story treatment for Star Wars: Episode VII

01.20.2015

George Lucas decided not to direct STAR WARS: EPISODE VII - THE FORCE AWAKENS and let Disney do their thing with his outline for a third trilogy in the saga of the Skywalker clan. When Disney purchased Lucasfilm a couple of years ago, that included the script treatment for three films that Lucas had prepared for them. Now, it turns out that treatment is not being used at all for the J.J. Abrams/Lawrence Kasdan scripted sequel.

Doing press for the upcoming STRANGE MAGIC, Lucas told Cinema Blend that:

"The ones that I sold to Disney, they came up to the decision that they didn't really want to do those. So they made up their own. So it's not the ones that I originally wrote [on screen in Star Wars: The Force Awakens]"

Could this be the reason why George Lucas has not been involved as a consultant on the new films? Was Disney so worried that the tainted memory of the prequels could affect their news films? Seeing as Lucasfilm's Kathleen Kennedy is directly involved in the production of STAR WARS: EPISODE VII - THE FORCE AWAKENS, I kind of doubt it. Still, this instantly made me wonder if Disney wants to separate themselves so much that this is another reason why EPISODE VII appears in none of the marketing thus far.

Whether or not the general plot outline will share any semblance to Lucas' ideas will not be known unless that treatment leaks at some point or if Lucas himself tells us after he watches STAR WARS: EPISODE VII - THE FORCE AWAKENS when it hits theaters. There have been countless writers in the medium of comic books, literature, and video games to successfully expand the STAR WARS mythos that I am not overly concerned about this news. But, somewhere in the back of my mind, it feels a little wrong to get a new trilogy without Lucas' involvement.

STAR WARS: EPISODE VII - THE FORCE AWAKENS opens on December 18, 2015.

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8:40PM on 01/21/2015
Now do the same with Indy and we'll be happy. The man's been going senile since the late 90s.
Now do the same with Indy and we'll be happy. The man's been going senile since the late 90s.
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3:34PM on 01/21/2015
Glad to see them going with their own fan fiction and all those designs that were rejected for the original 'Star Wars'.
Glad to see them going with their own fan fiction and all those designs that were rejected for the original 'Star Wars'.
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8:20AM on 01/21/2015
Lucas has done pretty well for himself. He created one of the most loved sci-fi universes ever, made a ton of money, created one of the most celebrated special effects houses of cinema with ILM, then when it was generally accepted that he couldn't do anything else useful with the Star Wars series he made a ton more money offloading it on Disney.
Nobody likes to lose control of something they created, but I don't suppose Lucas gives a damn what Star Wars fans think about him. Not everyone gets
Lucas has done pretty well for himself. He created one of the most loved sci-fi universes ever, made a ton of money, created one of the most celebrated special effects houses of cinema with ILM, then when it was generally accepted that he couldn't do anything else useful with the Star Wars series he made a ton more money offloading it on Disney.
Nobody likes to lose control of something they created, but I don't suppose Lucas gives a damn what Star Wars fans think about him. Not everyone gets to be a beloved director, but from a purely business point to view he really has very little to regret - I can't see him losing sleep over Disney not using his story for Episode VII onwards.
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11:10PM on 01/20/2015

Probably a good move

Good move to drop the whole outline. Lucas is a perfect example of a creator who completely lost touch on why his creation is so loved. He caught lightning in a bottle with Episode IV and was never able to replicate it with the prequels. I was very happy when he sold Lucasfilm to Disney and they announced new movies. I don't know if the new ones are going to be good but they can't be worst than ep I,II and III.
Good move to drop the whole outline. Lucas is a perfect example of a creator who completely lost touch on why his creation is so loved. He caught lightning in a bottle with Episode IV and was never able to replicate it with the prequels. I was very happy when he sold Lucasfilm to Disney and they announced new movies. I don't know if the new ones are going to be good but they can't be worst than ep I,II and III.
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9:49PM on 01/20/2015

Crap

Well this sucks. And here I thought we were getting something new. I trying to imagine the number of videos YouTube will carry that will show the MANY similarities between A New Hope and The Force Awakens. Here's a hint; a lot.
Well this sucks. And here I thought we were getting something new. I trying to imagine the number of videos YouTube will carry that will show the MANY similarities between A New Hope and The Force Awakens. Here's a hint; a lot.
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9:26PM on 01/20/2015
In my opinion, Disney made a smart move on their part. Lucas has lost touch with how to tell a story and the proof is in the Star Wars prequel and the fourth Indiana Jones film.
In my opinion, Disney made a smart move on their part. Lucas has lost touch with how to tell a story and the proof is in the Star Wars prequel and the fourth Indiana Jones film.
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9:21PM on 01/20/2015
I think Lucas giving the reins to Disney, which in turn gave the reins to directors who are actual fans of the original is a step to the right direction. In fact, it's almost something that was way overdue. While Lucas' vision was the origin of this huge heritage of pop culture, the fans were practically the ones who kept Star Wars significant since the '70s. At this point, I trust the fans more than I trust Lucas' vision for the future of Star Wars.
I think Lucas giving the reins to Disney, which in turn gave the reins to directors who are actual fans of the original is a step to the right direction. In fact, it's almost something that was way overdue. While Lucas' vision was the origin of this huge heritage of pop culture, the fans were practically the ones who kept Star Wars significant since the '70s. At this point, I trust the fans more than I trust Lucas' vision for the future of Star Wars.
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8:59PM on 01/20/2015

People are upset about this?

Keep this fucking guy away from the new trilogy, don't need his story treatment, visual style or his terrible ideas. He made a few good movies when he was young and has arguably spent the rest of his life ruining them.

Let him retire with his millions of dollars and stay the fuck away
Keep this fucking guy away from the new trilogy, don't need his story treatment, visual style or his terrible ideas. He made a few good movies when he was young and has arguably spent the rest of his life ruining them.

Let him retire with his millions of dollars and stay the fuck away
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8:23PM on 01/20/2015
As long as it's good, that's all that matters. I do wish Lucas was involved just a little, he's always been a good "big picture" guy. Say what you will about the prequels, but he was partially responsible for the 2 largest Original film franchises (not based on a novel, comic book, etc).
Abrams is capable, and although I like his Trek films, I find little influence from Roddenberry's original vision in them. Whether that is good or bad depends on who you ask, and I have a feeling there will be
As long as it's good, that's all that matters. I do wish Lucas was involved just a little, he's always been a good "big picture" guy. Say what you will about the prequels, but he was partially responsible for the 2 largest Original film franchises (not based on a novel, comic book, etc).
Abrams is capable, and although I like his Trek films, I find little influence from Roddenberry's original vision in them. Whether that is good or bad depends on who you ask, and I have a feeling there will be a similar split of opinions on the new Star Wars films.
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10:54PM on 01/20/2015
I like your reasoned thoughts, and I agree that people will be split between the two. I'm afraid that Abrams love for the OT will reflect in near identicle plot lines and characters in The Force Awakens. It would be crazy if Abrams work hasn't shown this type of mirror style.
I like your reasoned thoughts, and I agree that people will be split between the two. I'm afraid that Abrams love for the OT will reflect in near identicle plot lines and characters in The Force Awakens. It would be crazy if Abrams work hasn't shown this type of mirror style.
8:16PM on 01/20/2015
I see a future book/comic/toy line coming out of this.
I see a future book/comic/toy line coming out of this.
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7:59PM on 01/20/2015

This is bad news

Lucas writes horrible dialogue and disjointed screenplays, and is an adequate director, but there's three things he does very well. 1.Business 2. Visual Design Direction 3. Outlines/Treatments

The basic premise of the Prequels, the outline or treatment, could have been handled well with a capable screenwriter.

Without following the general outline he had in store for the Sequel Trilogy, I fear we're headed into crappy fanfic, where the Empire never dies like some schlocky slasher movie
Lucas writes horrible dialogue and disjointed screenplays, and is an adequate director, but there's three things he does very well. 1.Business 2. Visual Design Direction 3. Outlines/Treatments

The basic premise of the Prequels, the outline or treatment, could have been handled well with a capable screenwriter.

Without following the general outline he had in store for the Sequel Trilogy, I fear we're headed into crappy fanfic, where the Empire never dies like some schlocky slasher movie where the monster comes back to life in every movie. This could make the Prequel Trilogy look like a masterpiece.

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11:32PM on 01/20/2015
I agree with the whole empire thing. My first impression when I saw the teaser was "the empire? Again?" But we'll see. I can't trust Abrams to do something original with Star Wars rather than mimicing what he loved from the originals
I agree with the whole empire thing. My first impression when I saw the teaser was "the empire? Again?" But we'll see. I can't trust Abrams to do something original with Star Wars rather than mimicing what he loved from the originals
6:38PM on 01/20/2015

Thank the heavens!!!

I am so glad that Lucas has no involvement with the new trilogy. He is the worst thing to ever happen to Star Wars.
I am so glad that Lucas has no involvement with the new trilogy. He is the worst thing to ever happen to Star Wars.
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6:44PM on 01/20/2015
Amen.
Amen.
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5:50PM on 01/20/2015
Good.
Good.
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5:32PM on 01/20/2015

We already saw this happen

Remember when JJ was working with Michael Arndt on the script based off Lucas' treatment and then they let Arndt go and brought in Kasdan? Well I think we saw the switch right there. JJ clearly didn't like the direction things were going so he brought in Kasdan to start over. Arndt was hired before JJ after all.
Remember when JJ was working with Michael Arndt on the script based off Lucas' treatment and then they let Arndt go and brought in Kasdan? Well I think we saw the switch right there. JJ clearly didn't like the direction things were going so he brought in Kasdan to start over. Arndt was hired before JJ after all.
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8:00PM on 01/20/2015
Maybe. But it's important to understand that screenplay rewrites with different authors is standard procedure for every screenplay in existence.
Maybe. But it's important to understand that screenplay rewrites with different authors is standard procedure for every screenplay in existence.
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5:16PM on 01/20/2015
Disney/Marvel should take Arndt's draft and Lucas' treatments and make a graphic novel out of them once the ST is over by 2020. That would be a cool way for at least some of Lucas' ideas to be released without competing with the films Abrams and Co. end up making.
Disney/Marvel should take Arndt's draft and Lucas' treatments and make a graphic novel out of them once the ST is over by 2020. That would be a cool way for at least some of Lucas' ideas to be released without competing with the films Abrams and Co. end up making.
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4:37PM on 01/20/2015
"...this is another reason why EPISODE VII appears in none of the marketing"; that's a possibility yes, but If you think about it, Disney is in a way "rebooting" the franchise with this "new generation of young heroes", and putting $200M into a movie that has "Episode VII" in it's title would be against every rule of marketing. They're well aware that today's kids care or know little about the OT and probably even the prequels by now (Episode I was released 16 years ago!). I don't think they
"...this is another reason why EPISODE VII appears in none of the marketing"; that's a possibility yes, but If you think about it, Disney is in a way "rebooting" the franchise with this "new generation of young heroes", and putting $200M into a movie that has "Episode VII" in it's title would be against every rule of marketing. They're well aware that today's kids care or know little about the OT and probably even the prequels by now (Episode I was released 16 years ago!). I don't think they really want to separate from the prequels, I just think they reckoned "Episode VII" might put off some new kids that haven't grown up with either trilogy. Considering how late the PT came after the OT and how inferior it was, I don't think it would have attracted as many people had the first movie been numbered VII, VIII or IX. Numbers aren't really popular anymore, big franchises like X-Men, James Bond, Dark Knight, Transformers, Pirates Of The Caribbean and other big ones all seem to have avoided numbers purposefuly. Plus kids these days don't know how to read roman numerals anymore... :P
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3:44PM on 01/20/2015
That's pretty much what I figured when Michael Arndt was kicked off as writer. You don't take someone with that much talent off a project unless the fundamental plot he was working from is rejected. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Arndt's script was a bluff to help convince Lucas to sell.
That's pretty much what I figured when Michael Arndt was kicked off as writer. You don't take someone with that much talent off a project unless the fundamental plot he was working from is rejected. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Arndt's script was a bluff to help convince Lucas to sell.
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3:21PM on 01/20/2015

GOOD

Fucking good! Don't need him, don't want him. Let's see where things go now.
Fucking good! Don't need him, don't want him. Let's see where things go now.
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4:05PM on 01/20/2015
Now you're talking!
Now you're talking!
3:21PM on 01/20/2015
I assumed this was the case. It doesn't bother me much--Kathleen Kennedy and Lucas have been close chums for decades, so if Lucasfilm went into another direction, I assume it was done respectfully. Abrams and Kasdan, I think, will deliver a great script and Abrams will make the movie look just the way us fan boys want it to, because he's one of the biggest fanboys around. I hope George likes it.
I assumed this was the case. It doesn't bother me much--Kathleen Kennedy and Lucas have been close chums for decades, so if Lucasfilm went into another direction, I assume it was done respectfully. Abrams and Kasdan, I think, will deliver a great script and Abrams will make the movie look just the way us fan boys want it to, because he's one of the biggest fanboys around. I hope George likes it.
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3:07PM on 01/20/2015
Not sure whether this makes Abrams out to be an arrogant dickhead or a really smart filmmaker.

On the one hand, Abrams' childhood was based in Star Wars and was the reason he got into movies. So by throwing out Lucas' treatment, it's kind of like biting the hand that feeds you.

On the other hand, Lucas did a great job on the OT. But he clearly had a diminished ability to weave a great Star Wars story many years later, the prequels are a clear indicator of that. So perhaps the original
Not sure whether this makes Abrams out to be an arrogant dickhead or a really smart filmmaker.

On the one hand, Abrams' childhood was based in Star Wars and was the reason he got into movies. So by throwing out Lucas' treatment, it's kind of like biting the hand that feeds you.

On the other hand, Lucas did a great job on the OT. But he clearly had a diminished ability to weave a great Star Wars story many years later, the prequels are a clear indicator of that. So perhaps the original treatment was much in the vein of the PT than the OT? In which case it was smart to scrap it and start fresh.
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3:48PM on 01/20/2015
No, Lucas did an okay job on Star Wars.

How are there still people who don't realize he didn't write or direct ESB or RotJ?
No, Lucas did an okay job on Star Wars.

How are there still people who don't realize he didn't write or direct ESB or RotJ?
3:07PM on 01/20/2015

I have no problem with this

The worst elements in the CLONE WARS pilot (such as "Truman Capote the Hutt") all came from George Lucas. The series vastly improved once the writers got out from under Lucas' thumb and started doing their own thing. So I suspect Disney didn't use Lucas' treatments because they sucked.
The worst elements in the CLONE WARS pilot (such as "Truman Capote the Hutt") all came from George Lucas. The series vastly improved once the writers got out from under Lucas' thumb and started doing their own thing. So I suspect Disney didn't use Lucas' treatments because they sucked.
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4:03PM on 01/20/2015
Totally agree!!!
Totally agree!!!
3:06PM on 01/20/2015

That's the whole reason I'm excited in the first place

Georgie perpetuated some pretty negative stereotypes in his last effort. The writing was horrible and didn't mesh with the previous installments. Having a new approach is exactly what this franchise needs.
Georgie perpetuated some pretty negative stereotypes in his last effort. The writing was horrible and didn't mesh with the previous installments. Having a new approach is exactly what this franchise needs.
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3:50PM on 01/20/2015
Well put!
Well put!
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