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Disney originally hated Depp's "gay" Jack Sparrow

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If you need further proof that corporate overlords often don't know shit, look no further than this rather interesting and informative interview Vanity Fair did with Johnny Depp recently. He details how the now famous Jack Sparrow character wasn't resonating with the Disney brass, and how they feared it would tank the film.

“I think it was Michael Eisner, the head of Disney at the time, who was quoted as saying, ‘He’s ruining the movie.’ Depp reveals to Smith, however, that he remained unfazed by the studio’s hysteria. “Upper-echelon Disney-ites, going, What’s wrong with him? Is he, you know, like some kind of weird simpleton? Is he drunk? By the way, is he gay?… And so I actually told this woman who was the Disney-ite… ‘But didn’t you know that all my characters are gay?’ Which really made her nervous.”

Funny, seeing as how Depp's Sparrow catapulted the series to make over a billion dollars worldwide with more on the way from a fourth installment. Not to mention the character itself spawend a pop culture pirate phase and is frequently voted one of cinema's best creations.

Moral of the story? What the studio wants isn't always what the studio needs, and a number of directors and actors would be wise to put their foot down in the future if they feel particularly strong about something. Though it might get them fired, who knows.

Extra Tidbit: What's a movie you know would have been awesome had the studio not murdered it with edits?
Source: Vanity Fair

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9:40PM on 12/02/2010
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9:38PM on 12/02/2010
Babylon A.D from what I hear...Most shit talking Ive heard from a director to a studio.
Babylon A.D from what I hear...Most shit talking Ive heard from a director to a studio.
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11:51AM on 12/02/2010

SPIDERMAN 3!!!

Good God man! If the studio had just fucked off then Raimi could've had his Sandman masterpiece in action and we wouldn't have this reboot to worry about!!
Good God man! If the studio had just fucked off then Raimi could've had his Sandman masterpiece in action and we wouldn't have this reboot to worry about!!
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6:21AM on 12/02/2010
extra tidbit: there are so many: Chronicles of Riddick, Clash Of The Titans and many other were quoted already, but I think of Avengers and Judge Dredd (they might not become awesome, but at least watchable), Dark City, Abyss, The Crow, The Ghost And The Darkness, RoboCop 2, Terminator 3 & 4 maybee... They're countless actually!
extra tidbit: there are so many: Chronicles of Riddick, Clash Of The Titans and many other were quoted already, but I think of Avengers and Judge Dredd (they might not become awesome, but at least watchable), Dark City, Abyss, The Crow, The Ghost And The Darkness, RoboCop 2, Terminator 3 & 4 maybee... They're countless actually!
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3:43AM on 12/02/2010
Clash of the Titans. Only time I ever double face palmed for a movie.
Clash of the Titans. Only time I ever double face palmed for a movie.
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1:50AM on 12/02/2010

Extra Tidbit

I want to say Jonah Hex, although I'm sure poor editing wasn't that movie's only problem.
I want to say Jonah Hex, although I'm sure poor editing wasn't that movie's only problem.
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1:07AM on 12/02/2010
1st in response to "edits" question-1990's "Captain America" -it was originally like twice as long or something thereabouts -before all the obvious excessive cuts watered it down to a failure on every front. I personally liked what didn't get ruined-though it felt short changed to the max! + Depp's Keith Richardesque Jack Sparrow will live on forever! Brilliant Johnny!
1st in response to "edits" question-1990's "Captain America" -it was originally like twice as long or something thereabouts -before all the obvious excessive cuts watered it down to a failure on every front. I personally liked what didn't get ruined-though it felt short changed to the max! + Depp's Keith Richardesque Jack Sparrow will live on forever! Brilliant Johnny!
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12:56AM on 12/02/2010

Huh?

Either I'm dense or was in denial but wasn't Depp's Sparrow trying to nail Keira Knightley's character throughout that first film? Wouldn't his actions outweigh his eccentric mannerisms? The thing is, Disney was right about the sequels... they did suck as film but the first one was so much fun that no one cared.

Tidbit: Daredevil! The Director's Cut of Daredevil is ten times better and almost a different film. What was the studio thinking forcing that theatrical cut?
Either I'm dense or was in denial but wasn't Depp's Sparrow trying to nail Keira Knightley's character throughout that first film? Wouldn't his actions outweigh his eccentric mannerisms? The thing is, Disney was right about the sequels... they did suck as film but the first one was so much fun that no one cared.

Tidbit: Daredevil! The Director's Cut of Daredevil is ten times better and almost a different film. What was the studio thinking forcing that theatrical cut?
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1:36AM on 12/02/2010
While I like the theatrical cut of Daredevil, the director's cut is bitchin'.
While I like the theatrical cut of Daredevil, the director's cut is bitchin'.
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10:57PM on 12/01/2010
Extra Tidbit: Terry Gilliam's Brazil might count except that Gilliam was eventually able to release the intended cut of his film via the Criterion Collection. And it's awesome and a worlds better than the shitty version Universal gutted and released.

The debacle about Orson Welles' The Magnificent Ambersons comes to mind. Welles was on a roll but got royally fucked by the studio.
Extra Tidbit: Terry Gilliam's Brazil might count except that Gilliam was eventually able to release the intended cut of his film via the Criterion Collection. And it's awesome and a worlds better than the shitty version Universal gutted and released.

The debacle about Orson Welles' The Magnificent Ambersons comes to mind. Welles was on a roll but got royally fucked by the studio.
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10:07PM on 12/01/2010

Extra Tidbit...

Once Upon a time in America.....Saw the 3 hours 40 mins version....Its one of the greatest movies ever!!!!
Once Upon a time in America.....Saw the 3 hours 40 mins version....Its one of the greatest movies ever!!!!
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9:40PM on 12/02/2010
And your Avatar's movie.
And your Avatar's movie.
9:30PM on 12/01/2010
As much as it sucked anyway: Ultraviolet. Apparently, according to Kurt Wimmer, the movies was unfinished and butchered in editing.
As much as it sucked anyway: Ultraviolet. Apparently, according to Kurt Wimmer, the movies was unfinished and butchered in editing.
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8:52PM on 12/01/2010

Hmmm...

..probably could think of a few, but the first one that comes to mind is Miami Vice. Chonicles of Riddick was pieced together in DVD version too.
..probably could think of a few, but the first one that comes to mind is Miami Vice. Chonicles of Riddick was pieced together in DVD version too.
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7:11PM on 12/01/2010

Billy Walsh was right...

%#@* THE SUITS!
%#@* THE SUITS!
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7:10PM on 12/01/2010

Ha ha.

HA ha. I think this is funny. I'm mainly posting this so I can see the other comments, which aren't showing up for some reason.
HA ha. I think this is funny. I'm mainly posting this so I can see the other comments, which aren't showing up for some reason.
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5:08PM on 12/01/2010

Can't help but love Johnny Depp.

Extra tidbit: Alien 3 for sure. Even though I still love it, it could have been a LOT better.
Extra tidbit: Alien 3 for sure. Even though I still love it, it could have been a LOT better.
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4:39PM on 12/01/2010
I'm with nick2903, with the exception of the "all my characters are gay" quote, I already read about this.
I'm with nick2903, with the exception of the "all my characters are gay" quote, I already read about this.
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4:28PM on 12/01/2010
This is old news. We knew this just after the 1st pirates movie came out. Is it just me or is there a trend with movie news websites rehashing old stories lately? Is it because there is a lack of current news updates??
This is old news. We knew this just after the 1st pirates movie came out. Is it just me or is there a trend with movie news websites rehashing old stories lately? Is it because there is a lack of current news updates??
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4:24PM on 12/01/2010
Superman II
Superman II
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4:11PM on 12/01/2010
"‘But didn’t you know that all my characters are gay?’ Which really made her nervous.”"

Depp is so fucking awesome.
"‘But didn’t you know that all my characters are gay?’ Which really made her nervous.”"

Depp is so fucking awesome.
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4:09PM on 12/01/2010
"Gay" Jack Sparrow?? He bangs an ENTIRE port of women!
"Gay" Jack Sparrow?? He bangs an ENTIRE port of women!
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4:41PM on 12/01/2010
I think they're going for bisexual here.. lol
I think they're going for bisexual here.. lol
3:59PM on 12/01/2010
As for the Tidbit: Spiderman 3
As for the Tidbit: Spiderman 3
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3:17PM on 12/01/2010
A recent movie would be Clash of The Titans... i think that would have been good if the studio didnt make it 3D at the last second and change the entire second half of the film
A recent movie would be Clash of The Titans... i think that would have been good if the studio didnt make it 3D at the last second and change the entire second half of the film
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3:04PM on 12/01/2010

Well it seems Disney and I agree on something

I HATE Jack Sparrow. He's the most annoying, obnoxious, and unfunny movie hero I've ever seen. Yeah, Depp gives his all for the performance and does a great job, but I fucking hate the character. Having seven of him on screen at one time was one of the reasons I hated At World's End. Will Turner was the real hero of the story.
I HATE Jack Sparrow. He's the most annoying, obnoxious, and unfunny movie hero I've ever seen. Yeah, Depp gives his all for the performance and does a great job, but I fucking hate the character. Having seven of him on screen at one time was one of the reasons I hated At World's End. Will Turner was the real hero of the story.
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2:59PM on 12/01/2010
Kingdom Of Heaven. The 4 Disc Director's Cut is amazing, MUCH better film all round. The Theatrical version was a bit of a mess as Ridley himself admitted.
Kingdom Of Heaven. The 4 Disc Director's Cut is amazing, MUCH better film all round. The Theatrical version was a bit of a mess as Ridley himself admitted.
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2:54PM on 12/01/2010

EXTRA TIDBIT

The first that come to mind are the theatrical release of Blade Runner and Chronicles of Riddick.
The first that come to mind are the theatrical release of Blade Runner and Chronicles of Riddick.
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2:31PM on 12/01/2010

Tidbit

Spider Man 3, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, and The Clash of the Titans are the ones that come to mind.

Apparently according to Norton, The Incredible Hulk got edited alot too and that there is a director's cut with an extra hour of footage.
Spider Man 3, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, and The Clash of the Titans are the ones that come to mind.

Apparently according to Norton, The Incredible Hulk got edited alot too and that there is a director's cut with an extra hour of footage.
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2:36PM on 12/01/2010
Those movies mentioned would have sucked regardless.

I'm guessing you like those movies too huh?
Those movies mentioned would have sucked regardless.

I'm guessing you like those movies too huh?
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1:49PM on 12/01/2010

SPIDER-MAN 3

according to Raimi, the movie was supposed to be awesome until the studio stepped in.
according to Raimi, the movie was supposed to be awesome until the studio stepped in.
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1:38PM on 12/01/2010
First thing that comes to mind is the whole The Magnificent Ambersons debacle, but I never saw the actual movie...

The only other example that comes to mind is the "Love Conquers All" version of Brazil. It was the first one I saw of the movie, since the guy at the video store gave me the wrong DVD. You can imagine how bad my first impression was of that ending...
First thing that comes to mind is the whole The Magnificent Ambersons debacle, but I never saw the actual movie...

The only other example that comes to mind is the "Love Conquers All" version of Brazil. It was the first one I saw of the movie, since the guy at the video store gave me the wrong DVD. You can imagine how bad my first impression was of that ending...
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1:31PM on 12/01/2010
First thing that comes to mind is the whole The Magnificent Ambersons debacle, but I never saw the actual movie...

The only other example that comes to mind is the "Love Conquers All" version of Brazil. It was the first one I saw of the movie, since the guy at the video store gave me the wrong DVD. You can imagine how bad my first impression was of that ending...
First thing that comes to mind is the whole The Magnificent Ambersons debacle, but I never saw the actual movie...

The only other example that comes to mind is the "Love Conquers All" version of Brazil. It was the first one I saw of the movie, since the guy at the video store gave me the wrong DVD. You can imagine how bad my first impression was of that ending...
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1:29PM on 12/01/2010

This is actually pretty old news

James B. Stewart mentioned that in his 2005 book Disney War. Apparently they had the first screening for Curse of the Black Pearl at Depp's old club the Viper Room, and were on a mission to totally freak out the suits. Naturally the execs demanded they change the character but Depp and Verbinski had enough clout that they could stand firm. Naturally, that was all forgotten when the movie became a hit.
James B. Stewart mentioned that in his 2005 book Disney War. Apparently they had the first screening for Curse of the Black Pearl at Depp's old club the Viper Room, and were on a mission to totally freak out the suits. Naturally the execs demanded they change the character but Depp and Verbinski had enough clout that they could stand firm. Naturally, that was all forgotten when the movie became a hit.
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1:20PM on 12/01/2010

wolverine

that had hack and slash all over it bc Gavin Hood on his own would never had made that movie, but his hand was forced.
that had hack and slash all over it bc Gavin Hood on his own would never had made that movie, but his hand was forced.
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