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Edgar Wright explains why Ultron won't be in Ant-Man

Aug. 20, 2013by: Niki Stephens

One person who I think echoes what comic fans are thinking when it comes to movie adaptations is Edgar Wright. The director/writer has one comic adaptation under his belt, SCOTT PILGRIM VS. THE WORLD but ANT-MAN is a taller (shorter?) order.

A major complaint of most comic flicks is the overload of information and characters that seem to drown out the plot. When introducing a character, and even a good practice for sequels is to keep it simple. Use big ideas for other details that won't draw attention away from what we need to be paying attention to. Though Ultron will be the next villain for THE AVENGERS to face, Hank Pym's creation will likely not take part in his solo film.

In an interview with Huffington Post, Wright explains why Ultron was not included in his script, and shares his ideas on what makes a superhero film work. There's also some bits here about what the studio wanted from SCOTT PILGRIM:

Huffington Post: But "Ant-Man" is coming up, which people will have a personal idea of.

Edgar Wright: Yeah. Yes, absolutely. And people had a very strong opinions about "Scott Pilgrim" because it was an adaptation. And there's not much that you can really do about that. I'm sure there are people who didn't like the "Scott Pilgrim" film because it wasn't the books verbatim. And that's impossible. It's like, this is as close as it's going to get. In a weird way, you could never say this, but even at the time i was thinking, If you knew the changes that they wanted me to make, believe me...

HP: What's an example?

EW: I think the biggest thing that wasn't in the books at all -- and, listen, the film is pretty un-compromised and I have to give huge credit to Universal for letting me make the movie the way I made it. But I'd get things like, "You have to explain how they fight. You have to explain how they fight." And I'm like, "I really don't think we need to do that. It's not in the books and I don't think we need to explain." So, stuff like that, you know. So, I think people take this personally when -- it's usually when it's something that is much older.

HP: Is that a nice thing about "Ant-Man"? In that people know who he is, but not really.

EW: I think there's something in that it's a lesser known character, there's hopefully more license. For the one percent of people who are like, "Wait, Hank Pym would never do that!" there's 99 percent going, "Who's Hank Pym?" So, to me, the source material is great but it also frees you up to be like: I'm going to make a movie. The movie is not going to represent 50 years of Marvel comics because that's impossible. But I'm going to make a 100 minute movie -- or 110 minutes [laughs].

HP: Ultron is going to the the villain in the next Avengers movie, which is coming out before "Ant-Man." In the comics, Ant-Man invented Ultron. Ant-Man is a strange enough character on his own for a movie, would it have just too much to say, "Here's Ant-Man and, by the way, he also invented this robot named Ultron"? Would that have been too much for the first "Ant-Man" movie?

EW: It was never in my script. Because even just to sort of set up what Ant-Man does is enough for one movie. It's why I think "Iron Man" is extremely successful because it keeps it really simple. You have one sort of -- the villain comes from the hero's technology. It's simple. So I think why that film really works and why, sometimes, superhero films fail -- or they have mixed results -- because they have to set up a hero and a villain at the same time. And that's really tough. And sometimes it's unbalanced.

You know, when I was younger I used to love Tim Burton's "Batman." I was like 15 and even then I was aware, "This is really the Joker's film." It's like, the Joker just takes over and Batman, you really don't learn too much about him. Comics have years to explain this stuff and in a movie you have to focus on one thing. So it's about kind of streamlining, I think. Some of the most successful origin films actually have a narrower focus. You cannot put 50 years of the Marvel universe into a movie. It's impossible.

Source: HuffPo

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6:40AM on 08/21/2013
This is why I believe so many comic book fans loved Dredd - they just hit the ground running with an established character. Movies do not get the time novels, comic books and a 13-20 episode season get to establish everyone and everything.
This is why I believe so many comic book fans loved Dredd - they just hit the ground running with an established character. Movies do not get the time novels, comic books and a 13-20 episode season get to establish everyone and everything.
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8:52PM on 08/20/2013
I trust Edgar Wright with pretty much anything he chooses to do, so I have no complaints about the Ultron thing. The only thing I have a bit of a complaint about is the fact that Iron Man is once again the focus of The Avengers. He was the centerpiece of the first film and now, once again, he is the center piece.
I trust Edgar Wright with pretty much anything he chooses to do, so I have no complaints about the Ultron thing. The only thing I have a bit of a complaint about is the fact that Iron Man is once again the focus of The Avengers. He was the centerpiece of the first film and now, once again, he is the center piece.
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1:49AM on 08/21/2013
Who said Iron Man was going to be the focus?
Who said Iron Man was going to be the focus?
2:17AM on 08/23/2013
True, but the whole arc of the Marvel films to date has been about Stark. He's the one who has changed the world, changed the status quo, again and again. In the Marvel universe, the way wars are fought is completely different thanks to him. The way energy is produced is completely different. And so on.

It can't be Thor. His existence is kept on the DL. It can't be The Hulk, his existence is also - miraculously - kept on the DL. Even Captain America, who is the public face of Shield
True, but the whole arc of the Marvel films to date has been about Stark. He's the one who has changed the world, changed the status quo, again and again. In the Marvel universe, the way wars are fought is completely different thanks to him. The way energy is produced is completely different. And so on.

It can't be Thor. His existence is kept on the DL. It can't be The Hulk, his existence is also - miraculously - kept on the DL. Even Captain America, who is the public face of Shield and The Avengers, is just a superhuman soldier. None of them have yet done anything that's changed the world's status quo the way Stark has. Their character arcs are small; his is vast.

Anyway, it's looking more and more like Avengers 2 is going to wrap his story up for the foreseeable future. I don't see him taking a very large role in Avengers 3, if any.
5:35PM on 08/20/2013

i know im gonna love edgar wright's antman, but...

yea... i agree Lizardking310 & Jedd The Jedi....

im just hoping that they dont mess with Pym's future with having Tony Stark create Ultron instead, as that would have DEVASTATING effects to who Pym is supposed to become in the future.... it practically defines who he becomes and taking that away is like taking away the death of Uncle Ben from Spider-Man.... how does everyone not see this??? i guess because so many people are oblivious to who he is.... its just sad if they really go through
yea... i agree Lizardking310 & Jedd The Jedi....

im just hoping that they dont mess with Pym's future with having Tony Stark create Ultron instead, as that would have DEVASTATING effects to who Pym is supposed to become in the future.... it practically defines who he becomes and taking that away is like taking away the death of Uncle Ben from Spider-Man.... how does everyone not see this??? i guess because so many people are oblivious to who he is.... its just sad if they really go through with changing Ultron's creator....
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9:07AM on 08/21/2013
There's more to Hank Pym than being the creator of Ultron. There's the insecurity he felt being on the same team as a super soldier, a God and a Hulk. Perhaps we will see Pym become Giant Man in Avengers 3. Of course, becoming Giant Man isn't a good idea because his added strength doesn't make up for his added weight. In the comics he went back to shrinking down, this time as Yellowjacket. Of course that just made him feel inferior again.
There's more to Hank Pym than being the creator of Ultron. There's the insecurity he felt being on the same team as a super soldier, a God and a Hulk. Perhaps we will see Pym become Giant Man in Avengers 3. Of course, becoming Giant Man isn't a good idea because his added strength doesn't make up for his added weight. In the comics he went back to shrinking down, this time as Yellowjacket. Of course that just made him feel inferior again.
5:12PM on 08/20/2013
I love Scott pilgrim but you can't compare ant man to it. Marvel took the character greatest and only good story arc and killed it so they can have a story arc for RDJ in avengers 2 thanks to the dumb ass ending in iron man 3
I love Scott pilgrim but you can't compare ant man to it. Marvel took the character greatest and only good story arc and killed it so they can have a story arc for RDJ in avengers 2 thanks to the dumb ass ending in iron man 3
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8:41PM on 08/20/2013
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
2:19AM on 08/23/2013
Fuck you Iron Man 3 was awesome
Fuck you Iron Man 3 was awesome
4:07PM on 08/20/2013
First, I love Scott Pilgrim. Love it. Second, if you ever told me i would be THIS jazzed about Ant-Man, I'd feel your forehead. Jazzed!
First, I love Scott Pilgrim. Love it. Second, if you ever told me i would be THIS jazzed about Ant-Man, I'd feel your forehead. Jazzed!
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3:18PM on 08/20/2013
Can't wait to see what he does with a character like Ant-Man and would love to know who's on the short list to play Hank Pymm.
Can't wait to see what he does with a character like Ant-Man and would love to know who's on the short list to play Hank Pymm.
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3:11PM on 08/20/2013
Got a lot of faith in Edgar Wright. Can't wait to see the 1st teaser & some production stills.
Got a lot of faith in Edgar Wright. Can't wait to see the 1st teaser & some production stills.
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3:07PM on 08/20/2013

Fucking studio executive

God I'm so glad I'm choosing to go into the business side of "The Business" and not the creative side. Jesus Christ. 'Explain how they fight' I thought for one second that movie execs were getting their shit together but after that comment I'm glad I'm going to the business side of everything. I swear its almost as of these idiots quit watching movies when they got their first 70/30 deal and vice-president head of "this" on their business card.
God I'm so glad I'm choosing to go into the business side of "The Business" and not the creative side. Jesus Christ. 'Explain how they fight' I thought for one second that movie execs were getting their shit together but after that comment I'm glad I'm going to the business side of everything. I swear its almost as of these idiots quit watching movies when they got their first 70/30 deal and vice-president head of "this" on their business card.
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3:15PM on 08/20/2013
Edgar Wright did accommodate this strange request, though. It is the reason why Scott and Knives play that fighting game in the arcade. That was supposed to represent their fighting practice. It was a good compromise.
Edgar Wright did accommodate this strange request, though. It is the reason why Scott and Knives play that fighting game in the arcade. That was supposed to represent their fighting practice. It was a good compromise.
3:01PM on 08/20/2013
What he says make sense. I do hope Ant-Man is somehow tied into Ultron's creation though, because of how significant a contribution to the Marvel universe at large that aspect of his character is. I wonder who the villain for this film will be.
What he says make sense. I do hope Ant-Man is somehow tied into Ultron's creation though, because of how significant a contribution to the Marvel universe at large that aspect of his character is. I wonder who the villain for this film will be.
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9:14AM on 08/21/2013
Probably Elihas Starr.
Probably Elihas Starr.
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