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02.06.2009

Guardian recently spoke to David Fincher about the technical challenges involved in BENJAMIN BUTTON. They also managed to talk to him about whether or not he would be interested in doing a superhero movie. He replied:

"I was asked if I might be interested in the first Spider-Man, and I went in and told them what I might be interested in doing, and they hated it. No, I'm not interested in doing "A Superhero". The thing I liked about Spider-Man was I liked the idea of a teenager, the notion of this moment in time when you're so vulnerable yet completely invulnerable. But I wasn't interested in the genesis, I just couldn't shoot somebody being bitten by a radioactive spider just couldn't sleep knowing I'd done that."

I wouldn't necessarily say that this means Fincher will never do a superhero movie though, since there are a bunch of realistically concieved superheroes out there. Just because I can't think of any doesn't mean anything. I'm sure you guys will educate me. I can't always be the one teaching people things.
Extra Tidbit: Actress #512 to somehow not get cast as Mary Jane Watson: Alicia Witt.
Source: Guardian

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6:34AM on 02/10/2009
When they 1st started casting I had Alicia Witt as my pick.

"He is the Kwisatz Haderach!"
When they 1st started casting I had Alicia Witt as my pick.

"He is the Kwisatz Haderach!"
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3:39PM on 02/09/2009
I agree with some of the others, he seems to be a bit condescending in these remarks, which is odd, especially considering button's obvious lack of realism... the more I think about it, the more likely I think it is that he's speaking about Spiderman specifically, and I can understand that comment in its specific relation to spiderman.

But, in the wake of success like TDK and ironman, he ends up sounding like RDJ, sulking and childishly criticising the top dog... But, while it sounds
I agree with some of the others, he seems to be a bit condescending in these remarks, which is odd, especially considering button's obvious lack of realism... the more I think about it, the more likely I think it is that he's speaking about Spiderman specifically, and I can understand that comment in its specific relation to spiderman.

But, in the wake of success like TDK and ironman, he ends up sounding like RDJ, sulking and childishly criticising the top dog... But, while it sounds pretty obnoxious, I think its more likely taken out of context, and in my experience and knowledge of the man, Fincher isnt usually so elitist in this regard.

The fact is that comics, and even moreso, the "myth of the super-man", have always been one of the more accepted and enjoyed stories in all forms of popular media since recorded history began (e.g. greek gods)-- And almost every one of the top grossing films in the last 50 years has had sci-fi elements-- whether its as overt as Jurassic Park, or as subtle as Raiders of the Lost Ark, where supernatural/scifi elements are first introduced during the final scenes--

So frankly Id be surprised if the director of an alien film and a film about people aging backwards was so against science fiction or fantasy... and like I said, I dont think thats really the case-- its more likely his comments were about Spidey specifically, and not scifi or superheroes in general.

The truth is, there is something far more silly about sci fi like spiderman, where a genetically enhanced spider can transfer powers to victims of its bite-- as opposed to TDK or even Ironman, where the heroes are human, and their powers are either non-existent, or based on near-future technology. And even compared to equally unrealistic premises, spiderman's genesis isnt really symbolic of anything, whereas buttons fantastical elements all have obvious metaphorical intents and purposes.

Either way, Ive always wished fincher would go back to scifi (rama anyone?) so I hope these comments speak more to spiderman specifically, and not to his feelings on superheroes in general, and other more prototypical scifi.

... and if Im wrong, and he is this elitist and callous, then he deserves a bit of a comeuppance, and maybe when button doesnt win anything but tech oscars, he'll realize its time to step away from the prestige film-racket(and thats what it is, a racket), and just go back to making good, worthwhile films...
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12:20AM on 02/09/2009
FIGHT CLUB 2!
FIGHT CLUB 2!
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3:01PM on 02/08/2009
I dont think Fincher's comment really is about realism, its more about is perception of cinema and life. There are obvious sci-fi or fantasy or unbelieveable elements in his film, but they serve his need to explore some themes, as he would have with Peter Parker, and for that he didnt want/need the radioactive spider. Its as simple as that.
I dont think Fincher's comment really is about realism, its more about is perception of cinema and life. There are obvious sci-fi or fantasy or unbelieveable elements in his film, but they serve his need to explore some themes, as he would have with Peter Parker, and for that he didnt want/need the radioactive spider. Its as simple as that.
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9:23PM on 02/07/2009

LOL STUPID GDI

Actually what I said made perfect sense, it just strike you close to home and like a fanboy, you told me I was wrong but offered no proof.

Go jerk off to The Watchmen Trailer noobish queer.
Actually what I said made perfect sense, it just strike you close to home and like a fanboy, you told me I was wrong but offered no proof.

Go jerk off to The Watchmen Trailer noobish queer.
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7:43PM on 02/07/2009

Wow ValiantFratBoy

You truly are a complete fucking moron.
Nothing you said made any kind of sense. People like you think you sound smart saying shit like that but you actually sound dumber. YOU HAVE A SMALL BRAIN... And you need to get laid.
Nuff Said
You truly are a complete fucking moron.
Nothing you said made any kind of sense. People like you think you sound smart saying shit like that but you actually sound dumber. YOU HAVE A SMALL BRAIN... And you need to get laid.
Nuff Said
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2:21PM on 02/07/2009

TIME TO GROW UP FANBOYS

He is right, TDK was a exercise in Peter Pan complexes to the extreme. Comic Book movies taking themselves too seriously. These stories ARE NOT COMPLEX. For Hollywood, you legions of virgin fanboys are a goldmine. All they have to do is buy the rights to another comic book and try and make it "REALISTIC". Then you guys get dellusional and think a Batman movie is going to win a Oscar, well if "Heat" didn't get a oscar then why did you think a Batman ripoff of it would? Moronic. Time to
He is right, TDK was a exercise in Peter Pan complexes to the extreme. Comic Book movies taking themselves too seriously. These stories ARE NOT COMPLEX. For Hollywood, you legions of virgin fanboys are a goldmine. All they have to do is buy the rights to another comic book and try and make it "REALISTIC". Then you guys get dellusional and think a Batman movie is going to win a Oscar, well if "Heat" didn't get a oscar then why did you think a Batman ripoff of it would? Moronic. Time to grow up.

The truth is the nerd never gets the girl in real life guys. You have to become a confident man to get the girl, and no radioactive spider is going to bite you. Grow up, comic book movies are fun fluff, not deep cinema.
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11:21AM on 02/07/2009
Hmm. Y'know, if everyone were like David Fincher, we wouldn't have had childhoods to remember. Nope, we would have been fed the harsh realities of life ever since we were born. If everyone were like Fincher, there'd be no imagination left in the world, Christmas wouldn't have Santa, and 'going to the movies for fun' would be a phrase to laugh at. "For fun? Hahaha...we don't watch movies for fun, son, we watch it to understand life's rigid and cruel circumstances. Now go learn about death, young
Hmm. Y'know, if everyone were like David Fincher, we wouldn't have had childhoods to remember. Nope, we would have been fed the harsh realities of life ever since we were born. If everyone were like Fincher, there'd be no imagination left in the world, Christmas wouldn't have Santa, and 'going to the movies for fun' would be a phrase to laugh at. "For fun? Hahaha...we don't watch movies for fun, son, we watch it to understand life's rigid and cruel circumstances. Now go learn about death, young boy."
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4:32AM on 02/07/2009
So... does he think that a man who ages backwards is realistic?
So... does he think that a man who ages backwards is realistic?
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3:13AM on 02/07/2009
I like Fincher, but that was a very arrogant statement. He's basically saying that Spider-man is beneath him.
I like Fincher, but that was a very arrogant statement. He's basically saying that Spider-man is beneath him.
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2:59AM on 02/07/2009
I bet if he'd brought the idea up now after the success of the Dark Knight I reckon he'd have been given the movie
I bet if he'd brought the idea up now after the success of the Dark Knight I reckon he'd have been given the movie
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1:33AM on 02/07/2009

A good point

He brings up a very good point. Peter Parker being bitten by a radioactive spider works fine in a comic book. Not so much on film.

They should've skipped the origin. Besides, almost every fucking superhero movie have origins. That's bullshit.
He brings up a very good point. Peter Parker being bitten by a radioactive spider works fine in a comic book. Not so much on film.

They should've skipped the origin. Besides, almost every fucking superhero movie have origins. That's bullshit.
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12:42AM on 02/07/2009

Hmmm...

I love Fincher flicks, but his comments have just a dash of douchery to them, no? A smidgen? A pinch?
I love Fincher flicks, but his comments have just a dash of douchery to them, no? A smidgen? A pinch?
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8:58PM on 02/06/2009

IRON MAN

Ballsy geopolitical stance, misguided idealism, conflicted protagonists, sexual tension, kickass visuals... Only a few of Shellhead's essential aspects that Favreau totally dumbed down if not negated in favor of lame jokes, and that a visionary like Fincher would absolutely nail.
Ballsy geopolitical stance, misguided idealism, conflicted protagonists, sexual tension, kickass visuals... Only a few of Shellhead's essential aspects that Favreau totally dumbed down if not negated in favor of lame jokes, and that a visionary like Fincher would absolutely nail.
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6:32PM on 02/06/2009

No Agent Graves

That was Darren Aronofsky I believe.
Fincher would have been my only other choice to handle Watchmen.
That was Darren Aronofsky I believe.
Fincher would have been my only other choice to handle Watchmen.
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5:46PM on 02/06/2009

um

maybe I am confused...but didn't this guy and Frank Miller get together to shoot BATMAN:YEAR ONE but then both failed epically????
maybe I am confused...but didn't this guy and Frank Miller get together to shoot BATMAN:YEAR ONE but then both failed epically????
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4:26PM on 02/06/2009
I would love to see Fincher do a twisted hero like Moonknight.
I would love to see Fincher do a twisted hero like Moonknight.
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2:49PM on 02/06/2009
Seems like someone really should have went to him with The Punisher instead of what we got with this last attempt.
Seems like someone really should have went to him with The Punisher instead of what we got with this last attempt.
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2:40PM on 02/06/2009
I kinda have to agree with valiantcoward on this. I like Fincher, but he wouldn't have made a good Spider-Man flick. Espicially if it was all about Peter Parker being a teenager and not Spider-Man. I'm sure it would've been a good movie, just not a good Spider-Man one.
I kinda have to agree with valiantcoward on this. I like Fincher, but he wouldn't have made a good Spider-Man flick. Espicially if it was all about Peter Parker being a teenager and not Spider-Man. I'm sure it would've been a good movie, just not a good Spider-Man one.
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2:04PM on 02/06/2009

Aliens and old man babies

So he can't make a movie about a radioactive spider biting a person and then getting super powers because it is not believable, but he can make movies about man eating aliens, a person aging backwards, the most unbelievably in depth game ever, and a person whose alter ego plans an entire club where men beat each other up and blow up a building?
So he can't make a movie about a radioactive spider biting a person and then getting super powers because it is not believable, but he can make movies about man eating aliens, a person aging backwards, the most unbelievably in depth game ever, and a person whose alter ego plans an entire club where men beat each other up and blow up a building?
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1:27PM on 02/06/2009

batman

yeah, sounds like he could have done something very great with batman, or maybe even iron man. these are realistically concieved super heroes, i mean sure they aren't realistic to the point that its happening in real life, but they actually seem possible.
yeah, sounds like he could have done something very great with batman, or maybe even iron man. these are realistically concieved super heroes, i mean sure they aren't realistic to the point that its happening in real life, but they actually seem possible.
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