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First awkward clip from Woody Allen's Tall Dark Stranger

Apr. 28, 2010by:

Look, I know it's like, film blasphemy to say this out loud, but I just do not like Woody Allen movies. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate a few classics like ANNIE HALL and MANHATTAN, but the vast majority of the time, his stuff just rubs me the wrong way.

A perfect example of this is demonstrated in this first clip from his new film, YOU WILL MEET A TALL DARK STRANGER. It features Antonio Banderas and Naomi Watts talking to each other in a way that no human being has actually interacted with another. All of Allen’s movies lately feel more to me like stage plays with low-rent actors than actual films.

Tear me up if you disagree I suppose, as maybe I’m missing some brilliant, ironic cinematic style here, but hey, it’s just what I think.

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Extra Tidbit: Also, the fact he believes Scarlett Johansson to be his muse and a great actress makes me question him further.
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10:12PM on 04/28/2010
Paul, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but this is the clip that you claim has the two "talking to each other in a way that no human being has actually interacted with another"? Really?

This is probably his most realistic seeming scene in a decade. As much as I love "Match Point", it's melodramatic, in a good way.
Paul, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but this is the clip that you claim has the two "talking to each other in a way that no human being has actually interacted with another"? Really?

This is probably his most realistic seeming scene in a decade. As much as I love "Match Point", it's melodramatic, in a good way.
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8:49PM on 04/28/2010
"Tear me up if you disagree I suppose, as maybe Im missing some brilliant, ironic cinematic style here, but hey, its just what I think."

Yep, you're missing it, alright.
"Tear me up if you disagree I suppose, as maybe Im missing some brilliant, ironic cinematic style here, but hey, its just what I think."

Yep, you're missing it, alright.
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8:45PM on 04/28/2010
"Tear me up if you disagree I suppose, as maybe Im missing some brilliant, ironic cinematic style here, but hey, its just what I think."

Yep, you're missing it, alright.
"Tear me up if you disagree I suppose, as maybe Im missing some brilliant, ironic cinematic style here, but hey, its just what I think."

Yep, you're missing it, alright.
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6:36PM on 04/28/2010
I'll back you up on the Woody Allen there, bub. While there are a couple of Woody's flicks that I do like, the man has gotta be the most overrated director of the last 50 years.
I'll back you up on the Woody Allen there, bub. While there are a couple of Woody's flicks that I do like, the man has gotta be the most overrated director of the last 50 years.
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5:10PM on 04/28/2010

He makes too many movies

No one can make that many movies in so little time. Hollywood let Allen do it because he's a genius but even he doesn't have enough good ideas to provide that much material.

Match Point was fantastic because he was doing something completely new to him and it felt fresh.
No one can make that many movies in so little time. Hollywood let Allen do it because he's a genius but even he doesn't have enough good ideas to provide that much material.

Match Point was fantastic because he was doing something completely new to him and it felt fresh.
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5:55PM on 04/28/2010
Very true, but hey. Gonna knock the guy for doing what he likes?

New York City, sex, infidelity, tennis, opera, sex, New York City... Sure, they get tired after a while. But I'm always open to watching a WA film I haven't seen. Good or bad, the man's achievements in film are admirable and he's got such a distinct style. I dig a good bit of his stuff, and that stuff I really dig.

The stuff I don't dig, meh. I'll catch the next one.

Ya dig?
Very true, but hey. Gonna knock the guy for doing what he likes?

New York City, sex, infidelity, tennis, opera, sex, New York City... Sure, they get tired after a while. But I'm always open to watching a WA film I haven't seen. Good or bad, the man's achievements in film are admirable and he's got such a distinct style. I dig a good bit of his stuff, and that stuff I really dig.

The stuff I don't dig, meh. I'll catch the next one.

Ya dig?
3:54PM on 04/28/2010

Stumblin'n'Mumblin'

I thought I would never see the day where Antonio Banderas wasn't smooth ... I was wrong.
I thought I would never see the day where Antonio Banderas wasn't smooth ... I was wrong.
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3:20PM on 04/28/2010

Kidding Me?

"talking to each other in a way that no human being has actually interacted with another"

You know what you do on your Second Life account doesn't actually count for reality, right?
"talking to each other in a way that no human being has actually interacted with another"

You know what you do on your Second Life account doesn't actually count for reality, right?
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2:49PM on 04/28/2010
Woody Allen is a genius. He always makes awesome movies and has some of the best dialogue I have ever heard. I have not seen one bad movie by him (have not seen all of them, yet) and I dount he will dissapoint with his next two upcoming movies. Match Point might be my favorite movie of his and also Whatever Works.
Woody Allen is a genius. He always makes awesome movies and has some of the best dialogue I have ever heard. I have not seen one bad movie by him (have not seen all of them, yet) and I dount he will dissapoint with his next two upcoming movies. Match Point might be my favorite movie of his and also Whatever Works.
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3:43PM on 04/28/2010
No taste in movies? I acknowledged that I like the dude and a lot of his work, while not being a big fan of some of his other stuff. I even mentioned Match Point, which you just dropped AFTER me. How can I have no taste (in your douchey opinion) if I mentioned that prior to your post?

See, this is a chance to actually have people side with you, Soloist. Obviously people like his stuff and others don't. You naturally have people that agree with you. A first!!

Why fucking outcast yourself
No taste in movies? I acknowledged that I like the dude and a lot of his work, while not being a big fan of some of his other stuff. I even mentioned Match Point, which you just dropped AFTER me. How can I have no taste (in your douchey opinion) if I mentioned that prior to your post?

See, this is a chance to actually have people side with you, Soloist. Obviously people like his stuff and others don't. You naturally have people that agree with you. A first!!

Why fucking outcast yourself AGAIN by making such ignorant ass, unwarranted statements? If you'd have read and comprehended my post, you'd see that some of what YOU said is actually acknowledged by me. First.
10:07PM on 04/28/2010
While not having seen this post until after my reply to your reply, allow me to rectify certain things, and then continue to tear you a new asshole, you asshole.

First, since you were not at all clear about how you meant that the others, of whom I side with, so including myself as well, have "no taste in movies", I assumed, wrongly it seems, that you were just anti-Allen, as you seem to be anti-everything on here. Next time, more bloody details would be appreciated so such misunderstandings
While not having seen this post until after my reply to your reply, allow me to rectify certain things, and then continue to tear you a new asshole, you asshole.

First, since you were not at all clear about how you meant that the others, of whom I side with, so including myself as well, have "no taste in movies", I assumed, wrongly it seems, that you were just anti-Allen, as you seem to be anti-everything on here. Next time, more bloody details would be appreciated so such misunderstandings wouldn't happen, ie- you could have said "since you completely agree, then both of you have no tastes in movies, because he's great and never made a made movie"

Would that have been too damn hard to do? Thus, we know how you mean it, and are not confused by your broad generalizations and fanwankery.

Second, are you honestly going to try to tell me that "Hollywood Ending", "Curse of the Jade Scorpion", "Celebrity", and "Don't Drink The Water", are good movies? Then my enemy, you are delusional. They are overwrought, overly sitcom-ish, or too self indulgent.

With all that though, he's made some truly brilliant films- "Sweet And Lowdown", "Scoop", "Annie Hall", "Purple Rose Of Cario", "Zelig", "Stardust Memories", and "Deconstructing Harry", to just name a few of my favorites.

So, with this new enough you have obtained, are you still calling myself, and my cohorts, tasteless? Just because we maintain, as does most of the world, that he has made bad movies, and don't blindly follow him anywhere, we are not tasteless. It's that he works soo much, and he's getting up there in age, so he's bound to have exhausted himself here and there, and he has. No one, aside from Pixar, has a perfect track record, and when you've been making movies for the last bazillion years, it's impossible to have one.

Also, as much as I love "Annie Hall", how in the hell did it win out over "Star Wars"?

Now please, go shove it.
10:50PM on 04/28/2010
Wow, filmguy. That was...long. But I agree.

On Pixar -- the only way they have such consistent quality is 'cause they got a bajillion writers. But there's nothing wrong with that.

Back on Woody -- I feel like he's got such a unique place in cinema history, that he's one of those "I say I like him just because I should" type of guys. And it's ignorant, rational opinion-less people like Soloist who perpetuate this mentality that he is the end all be all of writers/filmmakers. While I
Wow, filmguy. That was...long. But I agree.

On Pixar -- the only way they have such consistent quality is 'cause they got a bajillion writers. But there's nothing wrong with that.

Back on Woody -- I feel like he's got such a unique place in cinema history, that he's one of those "I say I like him just because I should" type of guys. And it's ignorant, rational opinion-less people like Soloist who perpetuate this mentality that he is the end all be all of writers/filmmakers. While I disagree with a lot of his sweeping judgments, Tassi's got some merit for at least standing up and admitting he doesn't like the guy's work, and questioning it outright. It's a brave and commendable move in the face of such potential hostility (as seen here). Woody's not perfect, and he's done a lot of bad stuff. But he doesn't seem to care all that much. He just keeps truckin'.

Form your own opinions, people. If you truly dig all his films (and have actually SEEN all of them), then good for you. I just hope it's an individually formed opinion, versus basing thoughts off general or perceived consensus.
12:04AM on 04/29/2010
Long indeed. Sorry about that.

I agree, it's because Pixar has a bajillion writers, but they have a bajillion talented writers.

I don't know if I have seen all of Woody's films, but definitely (at the very least) 90% of them, and like most of them.

I have no problem with Paul not liking Allen, as he says that he pretty much doesn't like anything be the guy, which happens sometimes, and makes sense.

But to blindly state that we are "tasteless" because he have seen most of Allen's films, and
Long indeed. Sorry about that.

I agree, it's because Pixar has a bajillion writers, but they have a bajillion talented writers.

I don't know if I have seen all of Woody's films, but definitely (at the very least) 90% of them, and like most of them.

I have no problem with Paul not liking Allen, as he says that he pretty much doesn't like anything be the guy, which happens sometimes, and makes sense.

But to blindly state that we are "tasteless" because he have seen most of Allen's films, and dislike a few of them (even if we like many more than we dislike) really rubs me the wrong way.

Outsider, I believer you are correct, and that this guy is simply blindly following without total knowledge.

Thanks for being sane!
2:47PM on 04/28/2010
Look Paul, bubby.
There are 2 types of movie lovers; those who love Woody Allen movies and those who don't. What's the difference?
The former type is right and the latter has too much sex with family.
Look Paul, bubby.
There are 2 types of movie lovers; those who love Woody Allen movies and those who don't. What's the difference?
The former type is right and the latter has too much sex with family.
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2:08PM on 04/28/2010

He has his moments

My favourite is "Love and Death", quite possibly the funniest of all his early films.
My favourite is "Love and Death", quite possibly the funniest of all his early films.
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1:15PM on 04/28/2010

Give him credit

Personal life aside I have to give it up to Woody for what he does. I do no like Woody as much as my father but like EXAR said I think it's a generational thing. There is nobody else out there that does what he does. It takes writers years to complete 1 script and it turns out to be total crap. Woody is able to put these smaller movies together in no time and some how able to get everyones attention .

Best WA films - Match Point, Play it Again Same, Bullets Over Broadway, Vicky Christina
Personal life aside I have to give it up to Woody for what he does. I do no like Woody as much as my father but like EXAR said I think it's a generational thing. There is nobody else out there that does what he does. It takes writers years to complete 1 script and it turns out to be total crap. Woody is able to put these smaller movies together in no time and some how able to get everyones attention .

Best WA films - Match Point, Play it Again Same, Bullets Over Broadway, Vicky Christina Barcelona

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1:00PM on 04/28/2010
The "stageplay" feeling is probably because Woody Allen is fantastic with natural, witty and engaging dialogue. I personally love his films, though there are some real clunkers in his filmography. But that's just it -- the dude churns out so many freaking movies, there's bound to be some that are par/subpar. And he's been working so long and so consistently..

I won't thumbs down anyone, as we're all entitled to our opinions. But one film doesn't speak to all this guy's accomplishments,
The "stageplay" feeling is probably because Woody Allen is fantastic with natural, witty and engaging dialogue. I personally love his films, though there are some real clunkers in his filmography. But that's just it -- the dude churns out so many freaking movies, there's bound to be some that are par/subpar. And he's been working so long and so consistently..

I won't thumbs down anyone, as we're all entitled to our opinions. But one film doesn't speak to all this guy's accomplishments, for better or worse. Haven't caught everything he's done, but I've seen quite a bit. I personally recommend Crimes and Misdemeanors, Sleeper (for cheesy screwball fun), Manhattan Murder Mystery, and Match Point. On the flip side, I DON'T recommend Small Time Crooks, Scoop, or Vicky Cristina Barcelona, just off the top of my head.

As for this film, who knows. The clip was awkward, sure. But come on, it's SUPPOSED to be..
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2:08PM on 04/28/2010
Completely agree.
Completely agree.
3:03PM on 04/28/2010
Since, you completely agree, then both of you have no taste in movies.
Since, you completely agree, then both of you have no taste in movies.
3:40PM on 04/28/2010
Because of liking Woody Allen films? Uh, okay ...
Because of liking Woody Allen films? Uh, okay ...
9:52PM on 04/28/2010
I would actual recommend Scoop, I was pleasantly surprised by that one. Agree with VCB and Small Time Crooks though.

Also, The_Soloist, get your head out of your ass, just because like Allen's films (or most of them), doesn't mean we don't have taste, and I'd argue it shows you have none because you are showing disdain for something generally considered smarter than everyone else in the room.
I would actual recommend Scoop, I was pleasantly surprised by that one. Agree with VCB and Small Time Crooks though.

Also, The_Soloist, get your head out of your ass, just because like Allen's films (or most of them), doesn't mean we don't have taste, and I'd argue it shows you have none because you are showing disdain for something generally considered smarter than everyone else in the room.
10:52PM on 04/28/2010
Yeah, didn't like Scoop AT ALL. But hey, what can ya do?
Yeah, didn't like Scoop AT ALL. But hey, what can ya do?
12:55PM on 04/28/2010

Agree 100%

Have never been a fan of Woody Allen's drama or comedy and never will be. His movies fall flat in the first 10 minutes and I never care to watch them further.

Every story is just as boring as the one before it. How ANNIE HALL beat STAR WARS for Best Picture back in the day is a fucking enigma.
Have never been a fan of Woody Allen's drama or comedy and never will be. His movies fall flat in the first 10 minutes and I never care to watch them further.

Every story is just as boring as the one before it. How ANNIE HALL beat STAR WARS for Best Picture back in the day is a fucking enigma.
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3:04PM on 04/28/2010
Star Wars over Annie Hall for best picture? Really?
Star Wars over Annie Hall for best picture? Really?
7:13PM on 04/28/2010
You agree with that? Wow.
You agree with that? Wow.
12:08PM on 04/28/2010
Paul, I agree. Maybe it's a generational thing, but i am not into woody allen at all. Get you thumbs down ready, because I think Annie Hall is possibly THE most overrated movie of all time.
Paul, I agree. Maybe it's a generational thing, but i am not into woody allen at all. Get you thumbs down ready, because I think Annie Hall is possibly THE most overrated movie of all time.
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12:00PM on 04/28/2010

Ouch...Scarlett is not THAT bad

Award winning Actress and all...

And I think you are a bit too harsh on Woody right now.
Award winning Actress and all...

And I think you are a bit too harsh on Woody right now.
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