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Face-Off: Revenge of the Sith vs. Return of the Jedi

Nov. 8, 2012by: Paul Huffman
In last weeks Face Off, we showed love to one of the best horror franchises of all time thanks to Sam Raimi in Evil Dead vs. Evil Dead II. The general opinion from our readers was that while the original Evil Dead was indeed a classic and paved the way for a lot of straight horror that came before it, the sequel with all its camp and its entertainment had more of a lasting impression. Ash's character transformation into the bad ass we know him as today couldn't be ignored.

This week, well, in all fairness maybe I should have saved the Bond vs. Bourne match for this month. But let's not cry over spilled milk. So instead, we're going with a theme that captures some other pretty big news that has been circulating the web lately. To do that, we've put together perhaps the only debatable OT vs. Prequel trilogy match up in Revenge of the Sith vs. Return of the Jedi. Fans are passionate about their love for the original Star Wars films, and just as passionate about their general dislike for the prequel films. Now in an interesting turn of events, Episode III was rather well recieved, thank goodness for that. Some even say that is surpassed ROTJ, the least praised of the original three films. But is that an opinion you share? Let's discuss.
Story
The Clone Wars are so close to an end the Jedi can taste it. But as they fight for an end to the conflict their distrust of Chancelor Palpatine and his antics grows more and more every minute. With good reason, as the Chancelor has finally decided to move on seducing a certain young Jedi warrior to the dark side of the force. It's a tale of suspicion, something that every character in this film felt a little bit of. It's the fall from grace we've all been waiting for since ROTJ was all said and done, and from my point of view at least...this particular section of the story delivered.
Luke Skywalker is so close to his delusion of grandeur in the form on becoming a Jedi Knight he can taste it. But when he discovers that there is truth to a pretty major claim made by his nemesis Darth Vader, the final step towards his destiny lies in one more confrontation with his disturbed father. Meanwhile the rest of the rebel alliance devise a plan to put a halt on the construction of a second Death Star, which in all fairness they made just a little bit harder to destroy this time around. I can only imagine what the shock was like for audiences when these movies first came out, but it rocked my world when I was a kid too. And it added the needed emotional weight for this final installment.
Acting
The standouts in this film were definitely Ian McDiarmid and Ewan McGregor. Ian's slow transformation from Palpatine into the Emperor we all love to hate was a joy to watch. Truly frightening performance. McGregor hit all the right emotional notes when absolutely needed, especially in the scene where Anakin gets burnt to a crisp. Speaking of that scene, while I'm not a fan of Hayden's acting...when the script called for him to look brooding, pissed off, and emotionally tortured, it worked for me this time around. Ten times better than his turn in AOTC. However I must say, that there were still some cringeworthy acting moments in this film, where I could have used a bit more emotion. NOTE: Special props given to Matthew Wood for his portrayal of General Grievous, with all his character nuances.
Harrison Ford brought his usual charm, Carrie Fisher while not as sassy as previous films still got the job done, Mark Hamill carried the emotional weight of Luke swimmingly, but I would really like to praise Ian McDiarmid (at the risk of being redundant) and the voice talent of James Earl Jones. Ian's role as the Emperor, while brief, was as menacing as any villain ever portrayed. Jones really delivered on portraying a Vader that we could see was beginning to doubt his life choices, you could feel the "conflict" in his voice, even in his body language. NOTE: Props to the fellow who made the most out of his one line in the film that read "rebel scum". He was determined to make himself remembered.
Musical Score
Here we got to relive what I thought was the best part of Phantom Menace aside from Darth Maul in the track Duel of the Fates, plus heavily emotional new tracks like the music that accompanied Order 66 and the track attached to the long awaited Anakin/Obi-Wan duel entitled Battle of the Heroes. The score in this film was tragic, heavy shit was going on here and John Williams is the king at conveying something like this.
I dug the somber feel of already existing music that we got when Luke found out that Vader wasn't full of sh*t courtesy of Yoda. Williams also doesn't let us down in action bits as proved by what he gave us for the Battle of Endor. What caught my attention though, was the low-key score for the last stretch of the battle between Luke and Vader and the payoff of his redemption. It was less in your face then what he gave us for ROTS, but equally as powerful.
Climax
The fall of Anakin Skywalker was among one of the most important things to get right in history of cinema. And for all Lucas' failings with the prequel trilogy, I think the birth of Darth Vader was handled beautifully. He had a lot of material to cover, so I bought Anakin's reasons for siding with Palpatine (I mean hey the guys last premonition turned out to be true). We were treated to a lot of wet dreams in seeing Yoda and the Emperor battle it out, the duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan was emotionally satisfying, and let's face it...the "NOOOOOOOO" excluded...the first appearance of Vader was pretty bad ass. Seeing old set pieces that mirrored the OT was an added geek-filled bonus. Bottom line, ROTS deserves the praise it gets.
ROTJ was a cathartic experience, the idea that Vader still had some humanity left in him sort of came out of left field but it was believable nonetheless. You got a sense that every single character completed the paths they landed themselves on in the first film. One of the aspects I dug about the climax here was we got a couple breaks in the action between Luke and Vader for them to verbalize where there heads were at, although Vader showed no signs of faltering until he saw his son being tortured. That was all it took? How can I explain how happy I was with how this film ended? Let's say, if George had never sold his company to Disney, I think it's all safe to say we would have been content forever with how this saga ended. The Skywalker story came full circle in a beautiful way.
Overall
No sign of annoying kid actors, no sign of painful romantic dialogue (with the exception of a couple scenes), and only one glimpse of a Jar Jar without dialogue. Action plentiful, emotional content was present for the last hour. George Lucas, while having no talent for dialogue whatsoever, delivered on a visual level that was astounding. Glimpses of planets that I couldn't have dreamed up on my best day. A decent performance from a Hayden Christensen that had let me down in the previous film. ROTS was the film that Star Wars lovers had been waiting for since 1999. A perfect balance of humor, action, and tragedy. Not exactly Shakespeare, but it pleased this fanboy.
ROTJ was the Godfather III of the Star Wars franchise (with the Ewoks representing poor Sofia Coppola). Not quite as groundbreaking as the previous two installments, but also can never be counted out. It was satisfying. Late director Richard Marquand did a bang up job in bringing Lucas' vision to life, using an actual location for most of it no less. ROTJ was a satisfying end to a saga that is loved by millions. Think about it, if it didn't deliver in its own way, the OT would not be as praised as it is today. Bottom line. Our characters fulfilled their destinies. Can't ask for more than that.
Revenge of the Sith
I know what you may be thinking. Don't get me wrong, The Phantom Menace would never beat out A New Hope, the world ENDS before AOTC comes close to beating out ESB, but there was something that grabbed me on an emotional level when it came to Revenge of the Sith. The technological advances in the art of filmmaking weren't anywhere near relevant in this case. The music, the action, the performances of most involved (even Hayden when he didn't have to speak any dialogue) made ROTS a hell of a ride. Bottom line, ROTJ deserves praise for going out on an adequate note...while ROTS deserves praise for being the saving grace in the prequel trilogy. That speaks volumes. Do you agree?

If you have an idea that you'd like to see in a future FACE OFF column, feel free to shoot an email to me at paulhuffman@joblo.com with your ideas and some ideas for the critique to base your ideas off. Thank you and in the meantime...

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9:24PM on 11/29/2012
No. I disagree. Now, Revenge is the best of all prequel films and jedi debateably the worst of original trilogy films but even with ewoks and the song and dance scene of the "remastered" edition it still trumps hayden christianson. i mean, jabba's palace, the space battle, and the emperor's performance make this film better. oh and there's the han solo boob grope too. IT'S A TRAP!
No. I disagree. Now, Revenge is the best of all prequel films and jedi debateably the worst of original trilogy films but even with ewoks and the song and dance scene of the "remastered" edition it still trumps hayden christianson. i mean, jabba's palace, the space battle, and the emperor's performance make this film better. oh and there's the han solo boob grope too. IT'S A TRAP!
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12:07PM on 11/23/2012

No way!!

Sith was full of crappy CGI effects and horrible acting from 2/3 of the cast. It had a boring story and was nothing but marketing for toys so kids would buy every action set piece and character. Jedi was all around great. Everyone was on top of their game acting wise and the action scenes are cooler and more realistic. No shit CGI or crying makes it instantly better.
Sith was full of crappy CGI effects and horrible acting from 2/3 of the cast. It had a boring story and was nothing but marketing for toys so kids would buy every action set piece and character. Jedi was all around great. Everyone was on top of their game acting wise and the action scenes are cooler and more realistic. No shit CGI or crying makes it instantly better.
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9:09PM on 11/10/2012

Gimme a fuckin' break...

There's NO WAY. Vader throwing the Emperor into the trench and redeeming himself.
End of discussion.
There's NO WAY. Vader throwing the Emperor into the trench and redeeming himself.
End of discussion.
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5:24PM on 11/09/2012
Let's all just stop the fightin' and go and enjoy the Alexa Vega photo from Machete Kills. What do ya say?
Let's all just stop the fightin' and go and enjoy the Alexa Vega photo from Machete Kills. What do ya say?
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3:24PM on 11/09/2012

Ahh... hmmm...

Nope
Nope
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12:21PM on 11/09/2012

Watch this video. It might just change you're mind.

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Ever since i first saw the movie in the cinema i know there was something off about it. I just couldn't quite put my finger on it, until i saw this video. Revenge of the Sith is just a bunch of people sitting and talking in front of a green screen. Aside from a few kind of cool fight scenes it's simply bland. Return of the Jedi simply has more life to it. BTW i'm 21 years old so it's not nostalgia talking.
[link]

Ever since i first saw the movie in the cinema i know there was something off about it. I just couldn't quite put my finger on it, until i saw this video. Revenge of the Sith is just a bunch of people sitting and talking in front of a green screen. Aside from a few kind of cool fight scenes it's simply bland. Return of the Jedi simply has more life to it. BTW i'm 21 years old so it's not nostalgia talking.
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11:26PM on 11/08/2012

I have to agree...

I love Revenge of the Sith and even though I love Return of the Jedi the tension in Revenge is deep. Obi-Wan's speech to Vader on Mustafar...
I love Revenge of the Sith and even though I love Return of the Jedi the tension in Revenge is deep. Obi-Wan's speech to Vader on Mustafar...
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9:59PM on 11/08/2012
Return of the Jedi is the one I prefer, but there is no denying that ROTS is a good, or even great movie. Look at the rankings on rotten tomatoes, and its higher than most action/fantasy/sci-fi movies in the last decade. I can understand not liking episodes I and II, but if you're saying that episode III is just as bad than you're not a film fan, your just another biased fanboy complaining for the sake of complaining.
Return of the Jedi is the one I prefer, but there is no denying that ROTS is a good, or even great movie. Look at the rankings on rotten tomatoes, and its higher than most action/fantasy/sci-fi movies in the last decade. I can understand not liking episodes I and II, but if you're saying that episode III is just as bad than you're not a film fan, your just another biased fanboy complaining for the sake of complaining.
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8:52PM on 11/08/2012

Screen Door and a Randyman

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8:41PM on 11/08/2012
both r good movies.but i like ROTJ more.ROTJ is a feel-good euphoric movie and ROTS is about Darth vader's dark story about his character.but your criticism on ROTJ is harsh.you dont need to criticize ROTJ to prove that you are correct.you should hav put your love for ROTS in Unpopular Opinion column
both r good movies.but i like ROTJ more.ROTJ is a feel-good euphoric movie and ROTS is about Darth vader's dark story about his character.but your criticism on ROTJ is harsh.you dont need to criticize ROTJ to prove that you are correct.you should hav put your love for ROTS in Unpopular Opinion column
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8:40PM on 11/08/2012
I know it's not really related to this article, but you can find the fan edit online of the first 2 movies, of the Prequel Trilogy, and they're actually not too bad. No more Jar Jar Binks talking, no more "Yippeeee" from Anakin, No more useless droids talking. They're called 'The Phantom Edit', and 'Attack Of The Phantom'. A third movie hasn't been made unfortunately.

Here's some more info on the topic: [link]
I know it's not really related to this article, but you can find the fan edit online of the first 2 movies, of the Prequel Trilogy, and they're actually not too bad. No more Jar Jar Binks talking, no more "Yippeeee" from Anakin, No more useless droids talking. They're called 'The Phantom Edit', and 'Attack Of The Phantom'. A third movie hasn't been made unfortunately.

Here's some more info on the topic: [link]
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8:27PM on 11/08/2012

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I totally get it....

....oh wait, April Fool's Day hasn't come early. Now you're just fucking with my emotions dude.
....oh wait, April Fool's Day hasn't come early. Now you're just fucking with my emotions dude.
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8:04PM on 11/08/2012
The movies of the OT are actually untouchables. They are part of of movie, sci-fi and geek history.
But it's really unfair to say that ROTS is as bad as TPM or AOTC. Yes, not perfect, not at the same level as the originals, but still a very good space opera time.
The movies of the OT are actually untouchables. They are part of of movie, sci-fi and geek history.
But it's really unfair to say that ROTS is as bad as TPM or AOTC. Yes, not perfect, not at the same level as the originals, but still a very good space opera time.
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7:49PM on 11/08/2012

This is a trolling article.

Don't feed the trolls folks.
Don't feed the trolls folks.
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7:36PM on 11/08/2012

Lay off the reviewer...

He's 24...he doesn't know any better. He was weened on movies that are slight on plot and heavy on visuals. Of course he's going to say the overall impact with zero story arc or character development is better than a film that only has the ewoks held against it. You are going to sit there and tell me 'lava surfing' and kid that goes from 'IMA BE BEST JEDI EVER' to child killer with no reason is better than the emotional impact that was the last fight of father and son? I totally agree with his
He's 24...he doesn't know any better. He was weened on movies that are slight on plot and heavy on visuals. Of course he's going to say the overall impact with zero story arc or character development is better than a film that only has the ewoks held against it. You are going to sit there and tell me 'lava surfing' and kid that goes from 'IMA BE BEST JEDI EVER' to child killer with no reason is better than the emotional impact that was the last fight of father and son? I totally agree with his opinion, based on his age. He probably has no idea the classical story arc used to frame the original trilogy vs the all filler no killer of the prequels. ROTS does have a solid soundtrack...but that's it. Looks like JoBlo is pulling a AICN Harry...just keeping talking bs, get the site active, more money for ads..and Star Wars is one of those things that always gets us out from under our Empire sheet laden beds.
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5:50PM on 11/08/2012
You used to be cool, Joblo.com.

You used to be cool.
You used to be cool, Joblo.com.

You used to be cool.
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5:50PM on 11/08/2012
My 11 year old nephew thinks that the prequels are the greatest thing in the world. They had the same impact on him that the original trilogy had on me. You can't argue with somebody's love for movies. If you think one movie is better than the other, just say so and move on. You don't need to attack people.
My 11 year old nephew thinks that the prequels are the greatest thing in the world. They had the same impact on him that the original trilogy had on me. You can't argue with somebody's love for movies. If you think one movie is better than the other, just say so and move on. You don't need to attack people.
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10:43AM on 11/09/2012
Catwoman is only slightly worse than Batman & Robin ;)
Catwoman is only slightly worse than Batman & Robin ;)
6:25PM on 11/08/2012
Unless of course, you say you like Halle Berry's Catwoman over any other Batman movie ever. In that case a swift and brutal attack would be well deserved.
Unless of course, you say you like Halle Berry's Catwoman over any other Batman movie ever. In that case a swift and brutal attack would be well deserved.
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5:49PM on 11/08/2012

IDK

I liked the movie just fine, although i wanted to punch anikan in the face before he killed the younglings. Also, I loved the ending of ROTS it made me want to watch the original trilogy.
I liked the movie just fine, although i wanted to punch anikan in the face before he killed the younglings. Also, I loved the ending of ROTS it made me want to watch the original trilogy.
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5:34PM on 11/08/2012
I just finished watching Episode III for the first time in a while and I 100% agree. It's the better movie.
I just finished watching Episode III for the first time in a while and I 100% agree. It's the better movie.
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4:46PM on 11/08/2012

totally off base on this one

wow....just wow
wow....just wow
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4:37PM on 11/08/2012
You people need to ease back a bit with the rude comments. While it seems most agree the verdict is wrong, it's one persons opinion so leave it at that. You also have to take into consideration that the 2 films have practically a 20 year difference. Personally I enjoyed both and disagree with e the final verdict but hey, to each their own.
You people need to ease back a bit with the rude comments. While it seems most agree the verdict is wrong, it's one persons opinion so leave it at that. You also have to take into consideration that the 2 films have practically a 20 year difference. Personally I enjoyed both and disagree with e the final verdict but hey, to each their own.
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8:30PM on 11/08/2012
"prequel that will be forgotten in 5 years".......You mean it hasn't been forgotten already? Damn, and I thought I had my finger on the pulse.
"prequel that will be forgotten in 5 years".......You mean it hasn't been forgotten already? Damn, and I thought I had my finger on the pulse.
5:19PM on 11/08/2012
I'm sure most people can deal with difference of opinion in the right context. But here we're talking about a movie site saying a 30 year old classic filled with unforgettable scenes is not as good as a useless prequel that will be forgotten in 5 years. Don't think I'm saying you shouldn't criticize a film because it's a classic, I'm just saying it shouldn't be put on the same line. Comparing 2 films set appart by 22 years is non sense, just as you can't say "the action scenes in Skyfall is
I'm sure most people can deal with difference of opinion in the right context. But here we're talking about a movie site saying a 30 year old classic filled with unforgettable scenes is not as good as a useless prequel that will be forgotten in 5 years. Don't think I'm saying you shouldn't criticize a film because it's a classic, I'm just saying it shouldn't be put on the same line. Comparing 2 films set appart by 22 years is non sense, just as you can't say "the action scenes in Skyfall is better than the action scenes in Octopussy"... It's irrelevant. Of course the battle scenes in ROTS seem more impressive to us in 2012, but back in 1983, I'm sure people were even more impressed by the craftsmenship behind Jedi than kids were in 2005. Just like $20 are worth less today than $1 was when my dad was a child. Wait another 30 years and see which one seems more outdated then... I bet everyone will say Sith... if they even remember it.
4:40PM on 11/08/2012
Thanks man. It's nutty how some people can't deal with a difference of opinion....
Thanks man. It's nutty how some people can't deal with a difference of opinion....
4:30PM on 11/08/2012
Troll
Troll
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3:58PM on 11/08/2012
It's the battle for 3rd place, so probably nothing to get too worked up about. Both films were very good. I'd give the edge to the original theatrical version of ROTJ, followed by ROTS, and then ROTJ special edition. The silly musical number in Jabba's palace and Vader's "NOOO", among other things, while not completely ruining the film, was enough to knock it down a notch for me.
It's the battle for 3rd place, so probably nothing to get too worked up about. Both films were very good. I'd give the edge to the original theatrical version of ROTJ, followed by ROTS, and then ROTJ special edition. The silly musical number in Jabba's palace and Vader's "NOOO", among other things, while not completely ruining the film, was enough to knock it down a notch for me.
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3:30PM on 11/08/2012

WTF are you on????

R U kidding. How is the finale of a story that no one cared about better than the finale of a story that everyone loved. I didn't buy one bit of any of it. Anakin slaughters children because Palpatine tells him too? Yeah right. Did you forget that we already know that Luke helps redeem him later. Would you have had any sympathy for Vader in Jedi at all if you had know he was a child murderer? The whole point of the story was it shows Anakin turning to the dark side because he thinks that
R U kidding. How is the finale of a story that no one cared about better than the finale of a story that everyone loved. I didn't buy one bit of any of it. Anakin slaughters children because Palpatine tells him too? Yeah right. Did you forget that we already know that Luke helps redeem him later. Would you have had any sympathy for Vader in Jedi at all if you had know he was a child murderer? The whole point of the story was it shows Anakin turning to the dark side because he thinks that what he will find there will help him do things for the greater good. He isn't supposed to know that he has become evil, So of course he then murders a bunch of children because when it comes to good vs evil, child murder is one of those choices that could clearly be argued either way. All his actions were pointless and unmotivated and not only that they fucked up your perceptions of Vader in the original trilogy.
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3:30PM on 11/08/2012
Completely disagree with this verdict.
Completely disagree with this verdict.
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2:04PM on 11/08/2012

bullsh!t

Crazy, crazy bullsh!t...
Crazy, crazy bullsh!t...
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1:22PM on 11/08/2012

Dis Stepenber write this?

Are we being trolled?? I mean this is just ridiculous and stupid.

If the new formula for this website is going to be to write stupid articles that only create controversy (ALA Alejandro Stepenberg) and become the Skip Bayless of movie websites that only want attention and not good reporting then shame on you JoBlo.

PS: Niki Stephens needs to write moar!
Are we being trolled?? I mean this is just ridiculous and stupid.

If the new formula for this website is going to be to write stupid articles that only create controversy (ALA Alejandro Stepenberg) and become the Skip Bayless of movie websites that only want attention and not good reporting then shame on you JoBlo.

PS: Niki Stephens needs to write moar!
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8:32PM on 11/08/2012
Dude, I LOVE the Skip Bayless reference! That guy is an attention whore.
Dude, I LOVE the Skip Bayless reference! That guy is an attention whore.
4:35PM on 11/08/2012
So by your response, I will assume that you have disagreed with every single one of the FACE-OFFs so far?? Dude, this is a movie fansite. We debate movies like you would with your other movie friends (which I assume is what most other movie fans do). Do you always agree with your other movie friends? I didn't think so. This is life. People don't always agree. I don't see why I have to get on here and respond to these kinds of RIDICULOUS accusations when this site was founded as a FAN _15 years
So by your response, I will assume that you have disagreed with every single one of the FACE-OFFs so far?? Dude, this is a movie fansite. We debate movies like you would with your other movie friends (which I assume is what most other movie fans do). Do you always agree with your other movie friends? I didn't think so. This is life. People don't always agree. I don't see why I have to get on here and respond to these kinds of RIDICULOUS accusations when this site was founded as a FAN _15 years ago_ and we have maintained our credibility througout. Stop coming up with reasons why you *think* we're writing these articles and just RESPOND with your own pick! That's what this is all about. Believe it or not...not everyone in the world has the same opinion as you.
12:59PM on 11/08/2012

I disagree

After having seen them recently, I find Return of the Jedi head-and-shoulders above Revenge of the Sith. Sith had just so many facepalm moments, such as Padme and Anakin's "love" dialogue, the way Anakin suddenly decides to join the Sith and Padme's death at the end. And don't get me started on "NOOOOOOO!!!"
After having seen them recently, I find Return of the Jedi head-and-shoulders above Revenge of the Sith. Sith had just so many facepalm moments, such as Padme and Anakin's "love" dialogue, the way Anakin suddenly decides to join the Sith and Padme's death at the end. And don't get me started on "NOOOOOOO!!!"
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12:46PM on 11/08/2012

Stop holding on to your childhood memories..

Have you people in RED even watched these movies recently. I love ROTJ, but come on, It looks like a damn MUPPET movie now, especially in comparison to ROTS. Its not even a contest. And not for nothing, but Mark Hamill was not the greatest actor either. He improved with each movie, much like Hayden, but that don't make him Marlon Brando. Both great movies, but ROTS is just a much more meticulously made movie with a lot of heart and anger.
Have you people in RED even watched these movies recently. I love ROTJ, but come on, It looks like a damn MUPPET movie now, especially in comparison to ROTS. Its not even a contest. And not for nothing, but Mark Hamill was not the greatest actor either. He improved with each movie, much like Hayden, but that don't make him Marlon Brando. Both great movies, but ROTS is just a much more meticulously made movie with a lot of heart and anger.
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3:22PM on 11/08/2012
Sorry, I can´t find a beaten heart in any of the prequels, just a lot of moving (CGI) parts.
Sorry, I can´t find a beaten heart in any of the prequels, just a lot of moving (CGI) parts.
12:44PM on 11/08/2012

Not even!

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12:27PM on 11/08/2012

trollling

this has to be some type of troll toll. or did Bud Light Platinum completely buy out JoBlo.com? "No sign of annoying kid actors, no sign of painful romantic dialogue..." umm there were both. Younglings that were murdered and an ex-Queen that got her heart broken (which somefuckinghow lead to her dying WTF was that?). This is clearly the posting of a troll, because you sir, are refuckingtarded. The Jabba sequence alone was better than the Sith flick.
this has to be some type of troll toll. or did Bud Light Platinum completely buy out JoBlo.com? "No sign of annoying kid actors, no sign of painful romantic dialogue..." umm there were both. Younglings that were murdered and an ex-Queen that got her heart broken (which somefuckinghow lead to her dying WTF was that?). This is clearly the posting of a troll, because you sir, are refuckingtarded. The Jabba sequence alone was better than the Sith flick.
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12:17PM on 11/08/2012

Outrageous

How is this even possible?! Ohhhh wait, I get it... This must be the work of a pissed off pro Romney guy who hacked into JoBlo, trying anything he can to annoy common sense people.
How is this even possible?! Ohhhh wait, I get it... This must be the work of a pissed off pro Romney guy who hacked into JoBlo, trying anything he can to annoy common sense people.
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12:21PM on 11/08/2012
Actually, now that I think about it... It must be Mitt himself.
Actually, now that I think about it... It must be Mitt himself.
12:17PM on 11/08/2012
What. The. Fuck.
What. The. Fuck.
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11:54AM on 11/08/2012
Return of the Jedi is the clear winner for me but I do actually like ROTS. It's the best of the prequels, not that that is saying much.. It's pretty cool visually and I love the music. I like the action. My gripe is that until about the last 30 minutes I think it fails on the emotional level. I don't think HC is very good in it but McGregor definitely balances that out in those last scenes. Whereas ROTJ is awesome all the way through.
Return of the Jedi is the clear winner for me but I do actually like ROTS. It's the best of the prequels, not that that is saying much.. It's pretty cool visually and I love the music. I like the action. My gripe is that until about the last 30 minutes I think it fails on the emotional level. I don't think HC is very good in it but McGregor definitely balances that out in those last scenes. Whereas ROTJ is awesome all the way through.
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11:51AM on 11/08/2012

F*ck No.

Huffman... you're breaking my heart!
In no logical world does ROTS ever come anywhere near the quality of ROTJ. This article is nothing but fail.
Huffman... you're breaking my heart!
In no logical world does ROTS ever come anywhere near the quality of ROTJ. This article is nothing but fail.
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11:49AM on 11/08/2012
It's really just a matter of timing: ROTJ, problematic as it can be at times, was still made in the same era, with the same special effects...and most importantly, with THE SAME PEOPLE as the original two films! That alone brings it head and shoulders above anything else, even if ROTS was thematically darker/edgier. (Not to mention Jabba the Hutt enslaved Princess Leia and made her wear that gold bikini, lol)

No, I'm sorry, ROTJ, for the win.
It's really just a matter of timing: ROTJ, problematic as it can be at times, was still made in the same era, with the same special effects...and most importantly, with THE SAME PEOPLE as the original two films! That alone brings it head and shoulders above anything else, even if ROTS was thematically darker/edgier. (Not to mention Jabba the Hutt enslaved Princess Leia and made her wear that gold bikini, lol)

No, I'm sorry, ROTJ, for the win.
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11:44AM on 11/08/2012

you

lost me when you gave props to the person who didn't even do Vaders voice. That sir is James Earl Jones.... how could you get that wrong?? Makes this whole article moot.
lost me when you gave props to the person who didn't even do Vaders voice. That sir is James Earl Jones.... how could you get that wrong?? Makes this whole article moot.
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4:33PM on 11/08/2012
Paul made a mistake that he KNEW beforehand, but since he wrote the article at the last minute late last night, shit like that happens sometimes. So one typo makes his entire article "moot"? Wow. You guys are really harsh...
Paul made a mistake that he KNEW beforehand, but since he wrote the article at the last minute late last night, shit like that happens sometimes. So one typo makes his entire article "moot"? Wow. You guys are really harsh...
11:35AM on 11/08/2012

Phantom vs. Return now thats a test.

If you guys want a hard one to call try Phantom vs. Return. If you watch both its the same movie almost on the same time line. I did a term paper on it for my editing class in college. They are off by maybe 5 min but follow the same path from the start to the end.
If you guys want a hard one to call try Phantom vs. Return. If you watch both its the same movie almost on the same time line. I did a term paper on it for my editing class in college. They are off by maybe 5 min but follow the same path from the start to the end.
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11:34AM on 11/08/2012
ROTS is my favorite SW film after ESB. I know it isn't classic or influential like thee originals, but it's the only prequel that i felt gave us fans what we had been wanting for years--a darker, dramatic Star Wars with great pacing and no kiddie characters. I reconfirmed these sentiments after viewing the entire trilogy on bluray. ROTS is actually really good...i lvoe the scene where Anakin is just looking out the window, contemplating about his entire life being pulled out from under him,
ROTS is my favorite SW film after ESB. I know it isn't classic or influential like thee originals, but it's the only prequel that i felt gave us fans what we had been wanting for years--a darker, dramatic Star Wars with great pacing and no kiddie characters. I reconfirmed these sentiments after viewing the entire trilogy on bluray. ROTS is actually really good...i lvoe the scene where Anakin is just looking out the window, contemplating about his entire life being pulled out from under him, about Padme, about the future....its really a great scene weighed with sincerity and I wish more Star Wars films were like that.
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11:33AM on 11/08/2012

ROTS

This one is actually my favorite of the 6. To see Obi Wan and Vader go at it in their prime, easily made this film tops. To watch Vader and the Clones marching on the Jedi temple still gives me chills. And the Clone troopers kick total ass. Do you think the Ewoks would defeat the Clones? No fucking way. I hate what George did with the storm troopers even more especially after seeing how good the clones are.
This one is actually my favorite of the 6. To see Obi Wan and Vader go at it in their prime, easily made this film tops. To watch Vader and the Clones marching on the Jedi temple still gives me chills. And the Clone troopers kick total ass. Do you think the Ewoks would defeat the Clones? No fucking way. I hate what George did with the storm troopers even more especially after seeing how good the clones are.
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11:29AM on 11/08/2012

ROTJ FTW

I don't understand the hate for Ewoks. Yea they were cute little teddy bears, but does no one remember how they were going to EAT the original cast if it wasn't for threepio and Luke? What do you think the clans did with the bodies of all those dead storm troopers?!
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An ewoks gotta eat.
The biggest WTF in your article is David Prowse though. How do you screw that up? His body work was good yes, but it was JAMES EARL MOTHER FUCKING JONES that delivered that beautifully dark
I don't understand the hate for Ewoks. Yea they were cute little teddy bears, but does no one remember how they were going to EAT the original cast if it wasn't for threepio and Luke? What do you think the clans did with the bodies of all those dead storm troopers?!
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An ewoks gotta eat.
The biggest WTF in your article is David Prowse though. How do you screw that up? His body work was good yes, but it was JAMES EARL MOTHER FUCKING JONES that delivered that beautifully dark voice.
And how do you even compare the sack of shit Godfather 3 to ROTJ?!
The fact that you keep resorting to "and let's face it...the "NOOOOOOOO" excluded" and "no sign of painful romantic dialogue (with the exception of a couple scenes)" and "the performances of most involved (even Hayden when he didn't have to speak any dialogue)" just reinforce how bad ROTS really is.
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10:25AM on 11/08/2012

Sith

I liked the ROTS. ROTJ had child appeal with Ewoks and whatnot. The climax in Jedi seemed rushed to me. What Jedi lacked was a building of tension and suspense, and Sith well you kinda knew what was coming, and it built up to it. Sith was dark and serious and sad. Hayden is not a great actor but he was improving. One of the improvements not noted above was the cinematography. Jedi had ok cinematography, sets and framing for its day, but Sith was decades more sophisticated in shot
I liked the ROTS. ROTJ had child appeal with Ewoks and whatnot. The climax in Jedi seemed rushed to me. What Jedi lacked was a building of tension and suspense, and Sith well you kinda knew what was coming, and it built up to it. Sith was dark and serious and sad. Hayden is not a great actor but he was improving. One of the improvements not noted above was the cinematography. Jedi had ok cinematography, sets and framing for its day, but Sith was decades more sophisticated in shot framing. The battle between Yoda and Palpatine was stunning. The battle between Obi-Wan and Grievous was extremely well edited. In contrast Jedi seemed like a puppet show.
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10:15AM on 11/08/2012

Yeah . . . no.

RETURN OF THE JEDI kicks the shit outta REVENGE OF THE SITH, although I do think REVENGE OF THE SITH was the only good prequel movie.
RETURN OF THE JEDI kicks the shit outta REVENGE OF THE SITH, although I do think REVENGE OF THE SITH was the only good prequel movie.
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10:09AM on 11/08/2012

Ha

LMFAO....This is a joke right? Tell me you're jerking my fucking chain.
LMFAO....This is a joke right? Tell me you're jerking my fucking chain.
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9:34AM on 11/08/2012

Calm down!

Folks, you can agree or disagree with this article but there's no need to be personally rude to the author or call him names. It's just an opinion, not the end of the world.
Folks, you can agree or disagree with this article but there's no need to be personally rude to the author or call him names. It's just an opinion, not the end of the world.
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1:35PM on 11/08/2012
If only he spoke with the voice of David Prowse.... I mean JEJ....
If only he spoke with the voice of David Prowse.... I mean JEJ....
11:15AM on 11/08/2012
topchambers, he, is your father.
topchambers, he, is your father.
10:02AM on 11/08/2012
Thanks, dad.
Thanks, dad.
9:27AM on 11/08/2012

David Prowse voice acting?

Ever hear of James Earl Jones?
Smh. Such a fail.
Ever hear of James Earl Jones?
Smh. Such a fail.
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9:24AM on 11/08/2012

Um no.

Jedi is clearly the winner. You can' t beat the Battle of Endor. Simultaneous battles on the ground and in space while Luke and Vader duel on the Death Star. The run into the superstructure alone is by far one of the best sequences ever put to film. Sith doesn't come close to that kind of action or excitement.
Jedi is clearly the winner. You can' t beat the Battle of Endor. Simultaneous battles on the ground and in space while Luke and Vader duel on the Death Star. The run into the superstructure alone is by far one of the best sequences ever put to film. Sith doesn't come close to that kind of action or excitement.
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9:05AM on 11/08/2012

just wow

and you are getting paid to work for this site? who pays you??
and you are getting paid to work for this site? who pays you??
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8:59AM on 11/08/2012

Disagree

I don't think I've ever commented on these matchups before because I could see both sides of the argument. However, this one feels so completely wrong I felt compelled to comment.

I don't agree with all the hate for the ewoks and ROTJ in general. I agree it was rather ridiculous seeing teddy bear creatures taking down Storm Troopers with sticks and rocks. But aside from that, I actually liked seeing their culture and how even they were affected by the empire.

The ewoks seem to be the
I don't think I've ever commented on these matchups before because I could see both sides of the argument. However, this one feels so completely wrong I felt compelled to comment.

I don't agree with all the hate for the ewoks and ROTJ in general. I agree it was rather ridiculous seeing teddy bear creatures taking down Storm Troopers with sticks and rocks. But aside from that, I actually liked seeing their culture and how even they were affected by the empire.

The ewoks seem to be the main thing fans cry "foul" on, with some justification, however, they were such a minor role that they can be easily ignored for an otherwise great ending to the trilogy. I do think ROTS was the best of the prequel trilogy, but still leagues away from the original trilogy, including ROTJ. ROTJ > ROTS (no contest)
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8:41AM on 11/08/2012

People are entitled to their own opinions but...

People are entitled to their own opinions but.you are wrong. ROTJ is much better than ROTS!!
ROTS - the action looks like a video game, not a movie, the acting is bad, the writing is bad, padme's death is rushed..I agree that it's the best of the prequels but it is still not a good movie and in no way better than ROTJ!!
People are entitled to their own opinions but.you are wrong. ROTJ is much better than ROTS!!
ROTS - the action looks like a video game, not a movie, the acting is bad, the writing is bad, padme's death is rushed..I agree that it's the best of the prequels but it is still not a good movie and in no way better than ROTJ!!
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12:29PM on 11/08/2012
Dear Dr_Fruitness,

I appreciate you responding to my post but it's called a joke. You see the joke is that I say that everybody is entitled t to their own opinion and I immediately follow up with but you are wrong. That is a contradiction in terms and thus doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

I looked up joke on dictionary.com for you and it has many definitions.

1. something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a
Dear Dr_Fruitness,

I appreciate you responding to my post but it's called a joke. You see the joke is that I say that everybody is entitled t to their own opinion and I immediately follow up with but you are wrong. That is a contradiction in terms and thus doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

I looked up joke on dictionary.com for you and it has many definitions.

1. something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a prankish act.

This really sums up perfectly what I was going for but there is more.

2. something that is amusing or ridiculous, especially because of being ludicrously inadequate or a sham; a thing, situation, or person laughed at rather than taken seriously; farce.

This kind of works because I was going for something for people to laugh at rather than take seriously.

3. a matter that need not be taken very seriously; trifling matter.

Ooooh, this is also perfect.

So, I am not a, as you called it, "a short sited a-hole," I was merely making a joke. I am sorry if for some odd reason you took offense to it.

Thank you,

Me

10:05AM on 11/08/2012
Why don't you cry about it, Dr Fruitlessness?
Why don't you cry about it, Dr Fruitlessness?
8:43AM on 11/08/2012
It's called an opinion. Why is everyone on this freaking site such a short sited a-hole.
It's called an opinion. Why is everyone on this freaking site such a short sited a-hole.
8:37AM on 11/08/2012
Bravo good sir! Someone with the balls to admit the unthinkable, the will of the hateboys be damned!
Bravo good sir! Someone with the balls to admit the unthinkable, the will of the hateboys be damned!
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8:33AM on 11/08/2012

NERD HATE.... NERD HATE!!!!!!

HAHA... just wanted to be a part of the crowd...LOL!... ROTJ 4 LIFE!
HAHA... just wanted to be a part of the crowd...LOL!... ROTJ 4 LIFE!
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8:26AM on 11/08/2012
I will give ROTS it's due for being darker and better than the other 2 prequels, but ROTJ imo was as a whole a better film. I will say that John Williams hit the mark for the ROTS score though. ROTJ had a lot of the same ol' stuff but I can't help but love the 2 final Luke vs Vader scores. While many HATE Ewoks I find them less annoying than the moments shared with Anakin and Padme throughout the Prequels. In fact, ROTS is a better film if you skip everything Anakin/{adme love related. Not
I will give ROTS it's due for being darker and better than the other 2 prequels, but ROTJ imo was as a whole a better film. I will say that John Williams hit the mark for the ROTS score though. ROTJ had a lot of the same ol' stuff but I can't help but love the 2 final Luke vs Vader scores. While many HATE Ewoks I find them less annoying than the moments shared with Anakin and Padme throughout the Prequels. In fact, ROTS is a better film if you skip everything Anakin/{adme love related. Not better than ROTJ, but better as a whole by not acknowledging the shittyness and lack of Hayden and Natalie's chemistry on-screen. I've seen people that hate each other have better chemistry. Honestly. WTF?!!!
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8:13AM on 11/08/2012
Return of the Jedi is infinitely more entertaining than Revenge Of The Sith.
Hell, I'd even suggest Attack Of The Clones is a better movie than Revenge Of The Sith, though I should imagine I'd get more argument there.
There's plenty of stuff I like about the prequels - the worlds and spacecraft are beautifully rendered - but even if Return Of The Jedi had weaker elements than the rest of the original trilogy it still had enough outstanding moments to make it the winner here - the speeder-bike
Return of the Jedi is infinitely more entertaining than Revenge Of The Sith.
Hell, I'd even suggest Attack Of The Clones is a better movie than Revenge Of The Sith, though I should imagine I'd get more argument there.
There's plenty of stuff I like about the prequels - the worlds and spacecraft are beautifully rendered - but even if Return Of The Jedi had weaker elements than the rest of the original trilogy it still had enough outstanding moments to make it the winner here - the speeder-bike chase on Endor, the scenes in Jabba's palace on Tattooine - if it wasn't for the Ewok song and dance at the end I don't think anyone would criticise ROTJ half as much.
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+2
7:58AM on 11/08/2012

terrible

Recently I've started watching star wars again after a pretty long hiatus for no real reason. I have the saga on bluray so was really excited to get into these and watch them 1-6. After watching 1-3, I have to say these movies are real pieces of shit. I used to be a HUGE fan of star wars when I was younger, so I don't know if my taste has improved or the star wars brainwash has finally wore off. Either way, I was really astonished by how bad these are. From the acting to the mega dose of
Recently I've started watching star wars again after a pretty long hiatus for no real reason. I have the saga on bluray so was really excited to get into these and watch them 1-6. After watching 1-3, I have to say these movies are real pieces of shit. I used to be a HUGE fan of star wars when I was younger, so I don't know if my taste has improved or the star wars brainwash has finally wore off. Either way, I was really astonished by how bad these are. From the acting to the mega dose of green screen, to the terrible consistencies in every film. Before I thought it was all Christenson's fault, but seeing it again makes me see all of the actor are really suck in these. Bad direction.

Is ROTS better than ROTJ? No.
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7:29AM on 11/08/2012

WTF?

Hahaha! ROTS better than ROTJ??? Hahaha!
ROTS has an insane plot that shows weird people acting weird for weird reasons surrounded by too much CGI. There is no heart, no love, no reason, no passion in this movie!

The only thing that is not sooo great about ROTJ are the Ewoks.
Hahaha! ROTS better than ROTJ??? Hahaha!
ROTS has an insane plot that shows weird people acting weird for weird reasons surrounded by too much CGI. There is no heart, no love, no reason, no passion in this movie!

The only thing that is not sooo great about ROTJ are the Ewoks.
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+12
7:09AM on 11/08/2012

WTF????????

What is fucking wrong with you man? That Revenge Of The Shit over Return Of The Jedi. Are you insane?
What is fucking wrong with you man? That Revenge Of The Shit over Return Of The Jedi. Are you insane?
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7:06AM on 11/08/2012
For me its a Tie.... Compared to 4 and 5 Return ranks as the least fav and in the prequel trilogy Revenge is the best by a mile..... So a Tie...
For me its a Tie.... Compared to 4 and 5 Return ranks as the least fav and in the prequel trilogy Revenge is the best by a mile..... So a Tie...
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6:56AM on 11/08/2012

I call bullshit on this...

only because Jedi's Vader was one hard core motherfucker and Anikin is a pussy.
only because Jedi's Vader was one hard core motherfucker and Anikin is a pussy.
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6:46AM on 11/08/2012
Honestly, I never like Episode 1-3. My favorite is The Empire Strikes Back. However, regarding Return of the Jedi, original casts make it a worthwhile and memorable experience. It might not be as good as A New Hope or The Empire Strikes Back, but Return of the Jedi holds its ground very well.
Honestly, I never like Episode 1-3. My favorite is The Empire Strikes Back. However, regarding Return of the Jedi, original casts make it a worthwhile and memorable experience. It might not be as good as A New Hope or The Empire Strikes Back, but Return of the Jedi holds its ground very well.
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6:39AM on 11/08/2012

Let me make this easy for everyone....

The Worst of the Original Trilogy STILL has Han Solo, Luke Skywalker and a badass Darth Vader......And the Best of the Prequel Trilogy STILL has a whiny Anikin Skywalker. Now which should get the vote?

I like RotS way better than the other 2, but it would have to be on a WHOLE ANOTHER LEVEL to be compared with any of the original trilogy, even with (arguably) the lesser one.
The Worst of the Original Trilogy STILL has Han Solo, Luke Skywalker and a badass Darth Vader......And the Best of the Prequel Trilogy STILL has a whiny Anikin Skywalker. Now which should get the vote?

I like RotS way better than the other 2, but it would have to be on a WHOLE ANOTHER LEVEL to be compared with any of the original trilogy, even with (arguably) the lesser one.
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5:53AM on 11/08/2012
Are you. Fucking. Kidding me?!
Are you. Fucking. Kidding me?!
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5:39AM on 11/08/2012
You said "the voice talent of David Prowse" and I thought you made a strange mistake by typing Prowse instead of Jones but then you go on to say "Prowse really delivered on portraying a Vader ... you could feel the conflict in his voice..." I feel like I'm in bizarro world.
You said "the voice talent of David Prowse" and I thought you made a strange mistake by typing Prowse instead of Jones but then you go on to say "Prowse really delivered on portraying a Vader ... you could feel the conflict in his voice..." I feel like I'm in bizarro world.
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5:23AM on 11/08/2012
Yup. Episode 3 without a doubt over Jedi.
Yup. Episode 3 without a doubt over Jedi.
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4:57AM on 11/08/2012
You sir, are what we call wrong. Or retarded. Or maybe both!
You sir, are what we call wrong. Or retarded. Or maybe both!
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6:49AM on 11/08/2012
I would've thought the brouhaha around Ann Coulter's recent use of the R word would've changed how people throw this around.
I would've thought the brouhaha around Ann Coulter's recent use of the R word would've changed how people throw this around.
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3:45AM on 11/08/2012
I think the only reason people like Revenge of the Sith is because the first 2 prequels were so unwatchable that anything even semi decent wouldve seemed great. Tried watching it again last year and it was just as stupid as the first 2 movies.
I think the only reason people like Revenge of the Sith is because the first 2 prequels were so unwatchable that anything even semi decent wouldve seemed great. Tried watching it again last year and it was just as stupid as the first 2 movies.
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3:39AM on 11/08/2012
To quote Darth Vader: "Noooooooooooooooo"
To quote Darth Vader: "Noooooooooooooooo"
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3:13AM on 11/08/2012
"voice talent of David Prowse"
Wait, what? Are you sure you've seen the original series because you just praised the voice performance of an actor that didn't speak a single line in any of the films. Surprised no one caught this yet.
As for which film is better, I will concede that while Revenge Of The Sith is the least terrible of the prequel films, it is still an overbloated, cgi filled mess. The fight between Obi Wan and Greivous and the later battle between Obi Wan and Anakin are each
"voice talent of David Prowse"
Wait, what? Are you sure you've seen the original series because you just praised the voice performance of an actor that didn't speak a single line in any of the films. Surprised no one caught this yet.
As for which film is better, I will concede that while Revenge Of The Sith is the least terrible of the prequel films, it is still an overbloated, cgi filled mess. The fight between Obi Wan and Greivous and the later battle between Obi Wan and Anakin are each about 10 minutes too long and lack any emotional resonance or tension.
Return of the Jedi on the other hand has one of the best opening sequences ever, with Leia and Luke rescuing Han and the subsequent battle with Jabba at the Sarlacc pit. It also has the extremely emotionally satisfying struggle between Luke and Vader as well as Palpatine that leads to the second most emotional scene in the series (After the Vader father scene) in Vader's redemption.
Yeah, the ewoks suck but that hardly matters as they are such a small part of the film. In fact, the thing I hate most about Return of the Jedi is the whole "Let's make Luke and Leia brother and sister" thing but that's another issue entirely.
Anyway, I do agree that Ian McDiarmid was absolutely phenomenal and there were some cool action scenes (even if they are far too long) but the movie overall only looks good because the preceding films are such absolute piles of garbage. Return of the Jedi similarly only looks bad by being compared to Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back but is actually quite an emotionally satisfying conclusion to the series.
(Also, it should be noted that Revenge of the Sith is also well liked because it makes the other 2 prequel films completely redundant. Basically, the fall of Anakin Skywalker and his journey to the dark side (IE. The plot of the entire prequel trilogy) is told in full in this film. If someone is new to Star Wars, there is literally no reason to watch or mention Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones because absolutely none of those stories bear any weight on what happens in Revenge.)
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2:28AM on 11/08/2012

Dude ...

Just no.
Just no.
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2:00AM on 11/08/2012
Or to quote Vater from ROTS "NooooooooooOOoooo"
Or to quote Vater from ROTS "NooooooooooOOoooo"
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12:29PM on 11/08/2012
he says the same thing in Return, as well. well, in the BluRay version atleast. Shameshameshame.
he says the same thing in Return, as well. well, in the BluRay version atleast. Shameshameshame.
+16
1:58AM on 11/08/2012
Are you out of your mind???
Are you out of your mind???
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1:45AM on 11/08/2012

Disagree

I understand that ROTJ is the least liked of the original trilogy, but it's still better than any of the newer trilogy (Attack of the Clones being the best of those, IMO).
I understand that ROTJ is the least liked of the original trilogy, but it's still better than any of the newer trilogy (Attack of the Clones being the best of those, IMO).
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1:41AM on 11/08/2012

I agree.

ROTS is definitely not a flawless film, however neither is ROTJ. They both have their strengths and weaknesses, however if they were both to be released today I truly think that ROTS would be the better received of the two, both by fans and critics alike.
ROTS is definitely not a flawless film, however neither is ROTJ. They both have their strengths and weaknesses, however if they were both to be released today I truly think that ROTS would be the better received of the two, both by fans and critics alike.
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1:29AM on 11/08/2012
Soundtrack win for ROTS? Really?! When Anakin storms the Jedi Temple, they play the droid attack them from AOTC instead of Vader's theme. No costume or red lightsaber, I get it, but this was his first act as a sith lord, killing the younglings. He wasn't even a separatist at all, so why play that cue? The new bit ("Battle of Heroes") was nice.

For ROTJ, what about the music as Luke makes his final assault on his father? The haunting chorus was such an emotional piece for the film, it made
Soundtrack win for ROTS? Really?! When Anakin storms the Jedi Temple, they play the droid attack them from AOTC instead of Vader's theme. No costume or red lightsaber, I get it, but this was his first act as a sith lord, killing the younglings. He wasn't even a separatist at all, so why play that cue? The new bit ("Battle of Heroes") was nice.

For ROTJ, what about the music as Luke makes his final assault on his father? The haunting chorus was such an emotional piece for the film, it made the far less flashy fight seem so much more important and Anakin v. Kenobi.

Dropped the ball man, it isn't just about listening to the album, you gotta watch how the music enhances the film. Of all things wrong with ROTS, the soundtrack was #2 on my list. Great singular album (the use of the force theme at the beginning was top notch), but horrible overall use. The rebels first assaulting the death star? Lando just barely making it out? The sad and then triumphant use of the force theme during Vader's funeral? It may not have been heavy or in your face, but it did the job way better than ROTJ, whose score felt more disjointed with the film as opposed to a piece of an overall product.
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1:27AM on 11/08/2012

This is not serious...

...just clearly an attempt to create some controversy on purpose, make people rant, write "WTF" and have a few more clicks and comments so it doesn't even deserve an opinion.
...just clearly an attempt to create some controversy on purpose, make people rant, write "WTF" and have a few more clicks and comments so it doesn't even deserve an opinion.
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1:17AM on 11/08/2012

Are you just trying to make people mad by saying that so you'll get a debate???

No way in hell are any of the prequels better than any of the films from the original trilogy.
No way in hell are any of the prequels better than any of the films from the original trilogy.
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1:33PM on 11/08/2012
I thought that a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
I thought that a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
11:13AM on 11/08/2012
You haven't figured out by now that this column and the Unpopular Opinion exist primarily to spawn page hits for the purpose of driving up advertising revenues?

Meh, not that I'm upset or surprised, just that it's way too obvious. Still, they have their moments, I just don't like it so much when I fell like I'm being trolled into debate.
You haven't figured out by now that this column and the Unpopular Opinion exist primarily to spawn page hits for the purpose of driving up advertising revenues?

Meh, not that I'm upset or surprised, just that it's way too obvious. Still, they have their moments, I just don't like it so much when I fell like I'm being trolled into debate.
1:02AM on 11/08/2012
I think where Revenge succeeds more is in finally validating the prequels as a natural lead-in to the original trilogy. It was the movie people had been waiting on. One of the things so hated about Phantom Menace was the cutesy Anakin, who didn't seem a bit like how anyone imagined the treacherous Darth Vader to be. And while Christensen maybe isn't the best at delivery, his scowl, particularly in Episode III, did work pretty well. Natalie Portman was wasted though.

As I think back on it
I think where Revenge succeeds more is in finally validating the prequels as a natural lead-in to the original trilogy. It was the movie people had been waiting on. One of the things so hated about Phantom Menace was the cutesy Anakin, who didn't seem a bit like how anyone imagined the treacherous Darth Vader to be. And while Christensen maybe isn't the best at delivery, his scowl, particularly in Episode III, did work pretty well. Natalie Portman was wasted though.

As I think back on it Return isn't nearly the masterpiece I used to think, with favorite characters relegated to cameos and less action-oriented roles. I mean, more than any other, it's Mark Hamill's show, but still. It does have Jabba's Palace and barge, which are the kinds of set-pieces utterly lacking in the prequels, as Jabba felt absolutely real. And I still get chills when the Emperor finally unleashes his wrath.

But Jedi wrapped things up so perfectly I don't actually think there is an organic place to go, but then I'm not the Star Wars geek.
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12:55AM on 11/08/2012
This is an interesting face off. Return of the Jedi is my favourite entry in the series and beats out Revenge of the Sith for me but, to be honest, not by a whole lot. Revenge of the Sith was the redeeming salvo that closed off the prequel trilogy in very grand fashion. It felt like the event a Star Wars movie should feel like, and had a wonderful sense of finality about it, being a good way to close the prequel trilogy off. That shot of Padme in her coffin during the funeral procession, with
This is an interesting face off. Return of the Jedi is my favourite entry in the series and beats out Revenge of the Sith for me but, to be honest, not by a whole lot. Revenge of the Sith was the redeeming salvo that closed off the prequel trilogy in very grand fashion. It felt like the event a Star Wars movie should feel like, and had a wonderful sense of finality about it, being a good way to close the prequel trilogy off. That shot of Padme in her coffin during the funeral procession, with the closeup of the Jaipur snippet pendant Anakin had given her in Ep. 1, was heartbreaking. However, I think ROTJ comes together better on the whole, and has so many iconic moments: Luke facing off against the rancor, escaping the Sarlaac, the speeder bike chase, Luke and Vader's duel and Vader's redemption afterwards, Lando at the controls of the Falcon, and of course Leia in her metal bikini...even at its best, I don't think ROTS beats out ROTJ.
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12:42AM on 11/08/2012
Revenge of el Sith. . .
Just hearing the soundtrack to it makes me wanna watch it.
Revenge of el Sith. . .
Just hearing the soundtrack to it makes me wanna watch it.
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12:29AM on 11/08/2012
Although The opening (The entire Jabba's palace sequence) Is my favorite opening of all of the films, I just cant get past those damn Ewoks..ROTS gets my vote.....
Although The opening (The entire Jabba's palace sequence) Is my favorite opening of all of the films, I just cant get past those damn Ewoks..ROTS gets my vote.....
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12:22AM on 11/08/2012

AMEN

MY BOTHER
MY BOTHER
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12:17AM on 11/08/2012

No way

I saw ROTS in the dollar theater, and I walked out half way through. I later watched it on cable, and it was hard to get through. ROTJ is 10Xs the movie ROTS is.
I saw ROTS in the dollar theater, and I walked out half way through. I later watched it on cable, and it was hard to get through. ROTJ is 10Xs the movie ROTS is.
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12:39AM on 11/08/2012
Funny thing is that I consider ROTJ & Empire the best Star Wars movies. I rate them both 8/10

Not a big fan of the franchise at all.
Funny thing is that I consider ROTJ & Empire the best Star Wars movies. I rate them both 8/10

Not a big fan of the franchise at all.
12:23AM on 11/08/2012
Nostalga is a funny thing
Nostalga is a funny thing
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