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Face-Off: Superbad vs. The Hangover

Feb. 28, 2013by: Paul Huffman
In last weeks Face-Off, we put an alien theme together with a match up between Independence Day and War of the Worlds. Independence Day ended up winning the article's verdict, with our readers ultimately agreeing on the grounds that the film brought more fun blockbuster entertaining than Spielberg's re-imagining of Wars.

This week, with the upcoming release of the new comedy 21 and Over, we've decided to put together a match with two other films centered around drunken escapades. One was the desire of a group of friends to be drunk off their asses, the other was the after affects of a group of friends who got that wish. That's right folks, it's time for Superbad to go up against The Hangover. Both films were hilarious and sported great casts to bring them to life. But which one did you like more? Let's discuss.
Cast
Jonah Hill. Michael Cera. Christopher Mintz-Plasse. Seth Rogen. Bill Hader. Emma Stone.

This movie was filled to the brim with great comedic actors, some of the more experienced cast members hit funnier notes than others but I was pleased with every one of them. The best chemistry came from Mintz-Plasse, Rogen, and Hader with their time together, they all seemed to be having such a blast. Hill and Cera did well with their journey and Hill has evolved into a pretty talented actor (looking at you Moneyball) but sh*t did his obnoxious ass character rub me the wrong way here, loved when Cera finally told him off.
Bradley Cooper. Ed Helms. Zach Galifianakis . Heather Graham. Ken Jeong. Iron Man Mike Tyson.

Thank the gods of comedy that they pulled together three central actors they did for this movie, because the whole deal was dependent on their chemistry and their timing and they delivered in spades. Tyson's cameo was one of the most hilarious things I'd ever seen, Graham was hot as always, and Galifianakis stole the show with the awkward nature of his character. Here is where Ken Jeong became a parody of himself, and here is where it worked. I like that man in this film and Role Models. Big props to a cast that sold the ridiculousness of the situation.
Set Up
A group of high school friends determine an opening to get laid by the women of their dreams by purchasing them their desired alcohol. To accomplish this, they must rely on their awkward friend Fogell and his disaster of a phony ID. When their initial attempt fails in an over the top fashion, we go on a hell of a journey to see these friends get some alcohol to the party in one piece. Teenagers around the world could probably relate to the hassle of illegally purchasing alcohol with I think contributed to why the film was such a hit. Nobody in real life probably experienced this in such spectacular fashion...but...y'know, a very entertaining thing to center a teen comedy around.
All these four schmucks want to do is send one of their own into married life with a bang via a night in Vegas, but after that brilliant wolf pack speech they got themselves into way more than they bargained for. What I loved about this movie is the mystery aspect they introduced for it, we discover their drunken escapades right along with them and are left guessing just what the hell happened and where the hell their friend ended up. What a hilarious scene that kicked the whole thing into gear too, if that didn't let us know we were in for a hell of a ride, I don't know what would have.
Laughs
This movie had me busting up at several moments, again I loved pretty much any time Rogen, Hader, and Mintz-Plasse were on screen together...they played so well off of one another. The first party Hill and Cera attended had some funny moments as well, that period on the pants bit was gold. My favorite bit though had to be was Rogen's and Hader's reactions to decking Hill with their police car, how they wanted to handle it was both disturbing and hilarious at the same time and made for some great comedy. A lot of the comedy here came from uncomfortable moments, and it's taken me a while to get used to that sort of comedy but I dug it here.
Is it just me, or did the laughs not stop throughout this whole damn movie? Galifianakis owned his role as Alan has to be one of the best comedy characters in recent years, you love him and you are confused by his eccentricities at the same time just like his friends seem to be. Ed Helms' 'Doug' song also had me rolling, am I alone here? Tyson and Ken Jeong also supplied some of the biggest laughs, and on Tyson's part it sort of caught me off guard, in a very good way. Interestingly enough, the bit that got the biggest laugh out of me? The documented evidence from the nights events...those who have seen the film know why...that last bit blew my mind.
Climax
The conclusions for Cera's and Hill's characters were entertaining enough, if not unbelievable uncomfortable...but a lot of what they went through the whole film was pretty cringe worthy. The result I dug was how the journey for McLovin ended, loved the speech from Rogen and Hader explaining that cops know how to unwind and they wanted to relive that carefree lifestyle through McLovin, and the hilarity that followed that for those three. It seemed like the best way to go for all the characters and I dug what they learned about themselves and each other by the end of it all.
By the end of it all, to think that the whole film could have been avoided if the schmucks had retraced their steps back to where the night began is hilarious to me. The movie went for twists and turns that actually worked and added to the hilarity of it all. If everything that came before the big reveal wasn't as over the top as it was I think I would have been disappointed with the results, but thankfully that wasn't the case the whole thing was just so damn ridiculous until we find out where Doug had been.
Overall
Superbad was such a fun ride, and now years after its release it brings back memories both of experiencing things like this and being afraid to lose friends that you made memories like this with. The movie has heart, and because I understand that urge to hold on to your friends is why Jonah Hill's character annoys me a little less now...which sort of pulled me out of the experience on the first viewing. But all in all the film holds up as one of the best comedies of the decade, McLovin stands as one of my favorite comedic characters in recent memory.
Been paying attention to the rating system of course, you know The Hangover has taken victory by a landslide, I knew going in this would be the verdict. The Hangover has heart itself, but I think it's a bit more understated than that of Superbad, it was touching to see Alan's desire to be one of the boys and seeing everything that happens to see the rest of the boys accept him in his previously imagined "wolf pack." On top of that, the film had more of the laughs that came from hilarious scenarios rather than uncomfortable scenarios. The Hangover was brilliant alcohol-related rendition of an 'Odyssey' type story.
The Hangover
There you have it folks, seemed to have a Hangover bias here...but in all honesty Superbad is equal to The Hangover on many levels...but Hangover brought that entertainment factor up a few notches. The cast was full of win, the comedy was full of win, and the ending was full of win. The fact that the sequel was basically a rehash of the first with a different setting is a unfortunate testament to how well this formula worked. Hopefully Hangover III brings something new to the table. But back to the issue at hand, do you agree with this verdict? Or do you fancy Superbad more? Let us know!

If you have an idea that you'd like to see in a future FACE OFF column, feel free to shoot an email to me at paulhuffman@joblo.com with your ideas and some ideas for the critique to base your ideas off. Thank you and in the meantime...

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5:10PM on 03/01/2013

Superbad but still love The Hangover

Well when it comes to multiple viewings I think Superbad holds up much better. I also believe The Hangover is a funny movie because you are rooting for them to find Doug. Ever since the sequel came out though, it's become another "cool" internet cliche to hate on them & call it overrated.
Well when it comes to multiple viewings I think Superbad holds up much better. I also believe The Hangover is a funny movie because you are rooting for them to find Doug. Ever since the sequel came out though, it's become another "cool" internet cliche to hate on them & call it overrated.
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8:47AM on 03/01/2013
Glad to see I'm not the only one who never got the big deal with The Hangover. I agree with lots of people below: Superbad has genuine laughs of a wide variety, and definite substance, ultimately. I watched The Hangover with an open mind, and didn't laugh a single time, nor did I like any of the characters. When I ask people to tell me what they found funny, they never seem to have any definite idea or memory; it's like that movie just traveled over people in a wave of popularity without
Glad to see I'm not the only one who never got the big deal with The Hangover. I agree with lots of people below: Superbad has genuine laughs of a wide variety, and definite substance, ultimately. I watched The Hangover with an open mind, and didn't laugh a single time, nor did I like any of the characters. When I ask people to tell me what they found funny, they never seem to have any definite idea or memory; it's like that movie just traveled over people in a wave of popularity without actually being that entertaining. But that's my take. Anyway, yeah: Superbad by a mile
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3:04AM on 03/01/2013

Love Hangover, but...

...penis drawings + Emma Stone + Bill Hader = my vote for Superbad.
...penis drawings + Emma Stone + Bill Hader = my vote for Superbad.
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10:49PM on 02/28/2013
Superbad is funnier, more relatable, and has more heart. I liked the Hangover, but the comedy is so over-the-top sometimes that it seems like it's trying too hard.
Superbad is funnier, more relatable, and has more heart. I liked the Hangover, but the comedy is so over-the-top sometimes that it seems like it's trying too hard.
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8:29PM on 02/28/2013

No...

Superbad is not only a funnier movie but it is a much better movie then the hangover.
Superbad is not only a funnier movie but it is a much better movie then the hangover.
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2:21PM on 02/28/2013

Hangover easily wins

Superbad is vastly overrated. I've never felt a stronger urge to punch a character than Jonah Hill's in Superbad. I literally refuse to watch it again based on that alone. Everything else was good from what I remember, but the hype surrounding at the time was completely uncalled for. The PROBLEM is that we are in a long dry spell of comedies. Like, many many years worth. And that dry spell makes these average/above-average comedies seem like they're "great" films. But they're really not
Superbad is vastly overrated. I've never felt a stronger urge to punch a character than Jonah Hill's in Superbad. I literally refuse to watch it again based on that alone. Everything else was good from what I remember, but the hype surrounding at the time was completely uncalled for. The PROBLEM is that we are in a long dry spell of comedies. Like, many many years worth. And that dry spell makes these average/above-average comedies seem like they're "great" films. But they're really not
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8:53PM on 02/28/2013
You're right. Hangover is better. I dont know who keeps giving everyone who likes Hangover better a ton of thumbs down. Its probably one guy with multiple accounts.
You're right. Hangover is better. I dont know who keeps giving everyone who likes Hangover better a ton of thumbs down. Its probably one guy with multiple accounts.
1:08PM on 02/28/2013

Both are hilarious

I would have been content with either of these guys winning. However, I could still give a slight advantage to The Hangover, but with a piss poor sequel, it could easily be forgotten.
I would have been content with either of these guys winning. However, I could still give a slight advantage to The Hangover, but with a piss poor sequel, it could easily be forgotten.
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11:03AM on 02/28/2013

meh..

Superbad is a way funnier and better film than the hangover.
Superbad is a way funnier and better film than the hangover.
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10:36AM on 02/28/2013

Superbad was horrible

Just as most of Apatow's movies.
Just as most of Apatow's movies.
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10:28AM on 02/28/2013
Am I the only person who just really doesn't get The Hangover? I've always considered it to be a fantastic premise, terribly made. I think Superbad is one of the greatest, most heartfelt, comedies ever produced. To me, The Hangover is a mean little movie with predictable turns, over-drawn characters, few actual jokes and a scene where everybody just sits around talks about how great Mike Tyson is. To his face. I'd never take it away from anyone but comparing it to Superbad? There's no contest.
Am I the only person who just really doesn't get The Hangover? I've always considered it to be a fantastic premise, terribly made. I think Superbad is one of the greatest, most heartfelt, comedies ever produced. To me, The Hangover is a mean little movie with predictable turns, over-drawn characters, few actual jokes and a scene where everybody just sits around talks about how great Mike Tyson is. To his face. I'd never take it away from anyone but comparing it to Superbad? There's no contest. It comes down to the script, Superbad's a tour-de-force and a labour of love made over decades, The Hangover's a frat boy comedy scribbled on napkins. Ain't nobody gonna convince me otherwise.
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11:03AM on 02/28/2013
I didn't laugh once at The Hangover - and it's not like I don't like comedies. It reminds me of Late Night hosts who tell jokes and get applause instead of laughter. Superbad isn't hysterical either, but it at least it's grounded with a little bit of emotional depth.
I didn't laugh once at The Hangover - and it's not like I don't like comedies. It reminds me of Late Night hosts who tell jokes and get applause instead of laughter. Superbad isn't hysterical either, but it at least it's grounded with a little bit of emotional depth.
10:05AM on 02/28/2013
Hard to call for me. I really love both movies. On the one hand the characters in Superbad feel very real to me... on the other hand I had a friend just like Jonah Hill's character in Middle School and being reminded of him was way unpleasant. I think, based on that and the "mystery" aspect of The Hangover, I'll have to go with The Hangover as the film I enjoy more... but that's likely to change at any time.
Hard to call for me. I really love both movies. On the one hand the characters in Superbad feel very real to me... on the other hand I had a friend just like Jonah Hill's character in Middle School and being reminded of him was way unpleasant. I think, based on that and the "mystery" aspect of The Hangover, I'll have to go with The Hangover as the film I enjoy more... but that's likely to change at any time.
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9:26AM on 02/28/2013

SUPERBAD for me

THE HANGOVER is very funny but SUPERBAD nearly had me puking sometimes from laughing so fucking hard.
THE HANGOVER is very funny but SUPERBAD nearly had me puking sometimes from laughing so fucking hard.
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9:23AM on 02/28/2013
I agree whole heartedly the hangover was funny the cast had chemistry and the script was funny as hell.superbad to me wa only funny because of its cast
I agree whole heartedly the hangover was funny the cast had chemistry and the script was funny as hell.superbad to me wa only funny because of its cast
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8:39AM on 02/28/2013

SUPERBAD

No way is the hangover a better comedy than superbad. yeah the hangover was funny, but the characters in superbad hit the nail on the head. although i am biased b/c i was a sophomore in college when superbad came out and it was a walk down memory lane.
No way is the hangover a better comedy than superbad. yeah the hangover was funny, but the characters in superbad hit the nail on the head. although i am biased b/c i was a sophomore in college when superbad came out and it was a walk down memory lane.
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7:34AM on 02/28/2013

Hangover

A debate that has existed between my group of friends for years.

For me, it is the Hangover. I love both movies and own both. They are two different types of humor. The Hangover is very frat boy humor while Superbad is very sarcastic and sly humor. What I loved about the Hangover was the central mystery. It gave you a reason to sit through the laughs. I don't hate Superbad, this is actually a very close call, but Hangover wins!
A debate that has existed between my group of friends for years.

For me, it is the Hangover. I love both movies and own both. They are two different types of humor. The Hangover is very frat boy humor while Superbad is very sarcastic and sly humor. What I loved about the Hangover was the central mystery. It gave you a reason to sit through the laughs. I don't hate Superbad, this is actually a very close call, but Hangover wins!
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6:22AM on 02/28/2013
Whats up with your rating system, fellas? Me giving the thumb up equals -1 or wont work at all and thumbing down results in counting up? Someone seemingly try to protect "Superbad" very badly!
Whats up with your rating system, fellas? Me giving the thumb up equals -1 or wont work at all and thumbing down results in counting up? Someone seemingly try to protect "Superbad" very badly!
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5:16PM on 03/01/2013
I have long stopped taking the ratings systems seriously here on JoBlo. Even stopped giving them out myself. I have posted comments that have went into the -100s & some that have went into the +50s.
I have long stopped taking the ratings systems seriously here on JoBlo. Even stopped giving them out myself. I have posted comments that have went into the -100s & some that have went into the +50s.
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6:22AM on 02/28/2013
The Hangover was never very funny to me. I honestly don't get why people like it so much, but what can you do. Superbad, on the hand, is a new age comedy classic for my money.
The Hangover was never very funny to me. I honestly don't get why people like it so much, but what can you do. Superbad, on the hand, is a new age comedy classic for my money.
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5:57AM on 02/28/2013
These are two films that shouldn't be compared yet should be watched together. They're both great
These are two films that shouldn't be compared yet should be watched together. They're both great
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5:06AM on 02/28/2013

The Hangover. All day, everyday.

I agree with you Paul this week. The Hangover is the superior film and is much funnier than Superbad. To me, The Hangover has alot more appeal and has better replay value as oppose to Superbad where the film is only funny the first or second time you watch it. Which makes Superbad one of the most overrated movies I have ever seen. I even think the Hot Tub Time Machine is much better than Supershit.
I agree with you Paul this week. The Hangover is the superior film and is much funnier than Superbad. To me, The Hangover has alot more appeal and has better replay value as oppose to Superbad where the film is only funny the first or second time you watch it. Which makes Superbad one of the most overrated movies I have ever seen. I even think the Hot Tub Time Machine is much better than Supershit.
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8:52PM on 02/28/2013
You're right. Hangover is better. I dont know who keeps giving everyone who likes Hangover better a ton of thumbs down. Its probably one guy with multiple accounts.
You're right. Hangover is better. I dont know who keeps giving everyone who likes Hangover better a ton of thumbs down. Its probably one guy with multiple accounts.
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2:52AM on 02/28/2013
I'm leaning more towards Superbad, but probably only because it's more relatable to me. I was well into college when Superbad came out, but I had memories of being those guys. Superbad also comes off as more natural, as most Judd Apatow comedies do, than Hangover. While Hangover had some hilarious, awkward moments, nothing in the film ever had me crying the way Superbad did, but only because there wasn't really anything I could relate to with any of the characters from the movie. Sure, they're
I'm leaning more towards Superbad, but probably only because it's more relatable to me. I was well into college when Superbad came out, but I had memories of being those guys. Superbad also comes off as more natural, as most Judd Apatow comedies do, than Hangover. While Hangover had some hilarious, awkward moments, nothing in the film ever had me crying the way Superbad did, but only because there wasn't really anything I could relate to with any of the characters from the movie. Sure, they're all pretty much funny actors and likable guys, but their shenanigans feel stretched. Superbad hit all the marks for me and I laughed constantly throughout. So, that's the film that wins for me.
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2:33AM on 02/28/2013

Superbad wins EVERY category.........

The Hangover only had 2 parts that were funny. Everything else in it SUCKED!
The Hangover only had 2 parts that were funny. Everything else in it SUCKED!
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2:25AM on 02/28/2013

Interesting

Both are good, but I think I would pick The Hangover as well. It definitely has more plot structure whereas Superbad, while still funny, feels more random. I also definitely think The Hangover should have won Cast. I'm sorry but the Ed, Brad, and Zach are way better than Michael and Jonah. I don't see that as a tie at all.
Both are good, but I think I would pick The Hangover as well. It definitely has more plot structure whereas Superbad, while still funny, feels more random. I also definitely think The Hangover should have won Cast. I'm sorry but the Ed, Brad, and Zach are way better than Michael and Jonah. I don't see that as a tie at all.
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2:04AM on 02/28/2013
Can we stop with the ties in each category please? One must be better than the other. 3 of the 4 categories (excluding the overall category) were ties! C'mon guys! Don't sit on the fence!
Can we stop with the ties in each category please? One must be better than the other. 3 of the 4 categories (excluding the overall category) were ties! C'mon guys! Don't sit on the fence!
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1:18AM on 02/28/2013

Didn't even bother to read the article...

But Superbad all the way! Like FTW! Hands down! All Hangover was... was Todd Phillips remaking Old School. Think about it. Same format. Think about the dynamic of and between the characters. Alan is Frank, Phil is Beanie, and Stu (or Doug) is Mitch. Not to mention The Hangover's appeal and hilarity has been defiled by it's not so funny sequel. Yup. Something to mull over.
But Superbad all the way! Like FTW! Hands down! All Hangover was... was Todd Phillips remaking Old School. Think about it. Same format. Think about the dynamic of and between the characters. Alan is Frank, Phil is Beanie, and Stu (or Doug) is Mitch. Not to mention The Hangover's appeal and hilarity has been defiled by it's not so funny sequel. Yup. Something to mull over.
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1:04AM on 02/28/2013
Two different movies. The Hangover is perfectly executed mainstream comedy in the vein of Stripes, Wedding Crashers, and Caddyshack. It took gags others had done before but brought just enough edge and freshness to be immensely enjoyable.

Superbad is a high school coming of age flick like Dazed & Confused, The Breakfast Club, and Adventureland. Aimed at appealing to a certain generation. Namely mine.

The Hangover is more immediately watchable, I admit I get sucked into it whenever its
Two different movies. The Hangover is perfectly executed mainstream comedy in the vein of Stripes, Wedding Crashers, and Caddyshack. It took gags others had done before but brought just enough edge and freshness to be immensely enjoyable.

Superbad is a high school coming of age flick like Dazed & Confused, The Breakfast Club, and Adventureland. Aimed at appealing to a certain generation. Namely mine.

The Hangover is more immediately watchable, I admit I get sucked into it whenever its on. But Superbad has a place in my soul. That WAS my high school experience. So I can't really compare the two.
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12:45AM on 02/28/2013

Wrong Wrong Wrong

Don't even slightly agree with this one. Hangover was funny but Superbad had a much better story behind it and the dialogue was way better. I would watch either movie again but if I had a choice to buy and own only one of them it would be Superbad all the way.
Don't even slightly agree with this one. Hangover was funny but Superbad had a much better story behind it and the dialogue was way better. I would watch either movie again but if I had a choice to buy and own only one of them it would be Superbad all the way.
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12:45AM on 02/28/2013
SUPERBAD> THE HANGOVER

Hot Tub Time Machine is the better than the Hangover as well.
SUPERBAD> THE HANGOVER

Hot Tub Time Machine is the better than the Hangover as well.
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12:39AM on 02/28/2013

"I knew going in this would be the verdict."

That right there places a bias on the entire article.

I'd chose Superbad, anyway.
That right there places a bias on the entire article.

I'd chose Superbad, anyway.
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4:12PM on 02/28/2013
My example was actually a bit of a joke, I probably should have made that more clear.

I understand where you're coming from and I totally agree with the way you set up your argument about Life of Pi vs Avengers. I just believe outright stating "I knew it would be this from the start" just makes it feel like there was no competition to begin with because a decision was made prior to the argument. If that statement had been left out, it wouldn't have seemed that bad.

Taking into account
My example was actually a bit of a joke, I probably should have made that more clear.

I understand where you're coming from and I totally agree with the way you set up your argument about Life of Pi vs Avengers. I just believe outright stating "I knew it would be this from the start" just makes it feel like there was no competition to begin with because a decision was made prior to the argument. If that statement had been left out, it wouldn't have seemed that bad.

Taking into account the fact that there are indeed no right or wrong decisions, maybe the structure of a faceoff should be altered a bit, or maybe they should just not pit two movies together. I'll admit that I enjoy the faceoffs between actors a lot more because the foundations of their arguments aren't nearly as rocky.
3:42PM on 02/28/2013
But how can you scrutinize a work of art? There are no right or wrong decisions. Naturally, one can discuss what sort of comedy they use, whether it's slapstick, offensive, etc. You can also discuss themes of the movie like here, where both movies featured male friendship and bonding - but ultimately, the decision which one portrayed it better will always be subjective. That's how it is. You cannot have a general/objective consensus on those categories. Of course you should mention that some
But how can you scrutinize a work of art? There are no right or wrong decisions. Naturally, one can discuss what sort of comedy they use, whether it's slapstick, offensive, etc. You can also discuss themes of the movie like here, where both movies featured male friendship and bonding - but ultimately, the decision which one portrayed it better will always be subjective. That's how it is. You cannot have a general/objective consensus on those categories. Of course you should mention that some movies you like portrayed certain elements better than other movies you didn't like and I'm guessing this is what you mean by unbiased. But that's also a subjective opinion. For example: I hated The Life of Pi but I think it had better Speciall Effects than Avengers which I liked - however that is also a subject for discussion. other people may say that what Avengers did was more impressive.

Also, I don't think that your example makes a whole lot of sense in this particular situation or any other for that matter. I don't see a logical connection.
10:42AM on 02/28/2013
Well, maybe I'm wrong, but I always assumed that faceoffs involved breaking down each film into categories and closely analyzing each category based on what works best for each film and what doesn't. After a detailed examination, a decision can be made for one side or the other (not a tie between both BTW, as is consistent almost entirely throughout this one). This analysis requires an unbiased mind from beginning to end, as if the films haven't been seen before.

I'll give you an example.
Well, maybe I'm wrong, but I always assumed that faceoffs involved breaking down each film into categories and closely analyzing each category based on what works best for each film and what doesn't. After a detailed examination, a decision can be made for one side or the other (not a tie between both BTW, as is consistent almost entirely throughout this one). This analysis requires an unbiased mind from beginning to end, as if the films haven't been seen before.

I'll give you an example. Would a mediator in a divorce settlement immediately take the husband's side because he's male?
8:34AM on 02/28/2013
and how was it supposed to be unbiased? it's an opinion, it's always going to be biased!
and how was it supposed to be unbiased? it's an opinion, it's always going to be biased!
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12:19AM on 02/28/2013

Superbad = the win

Why? Likable characters and doesn't resort to an unfunny sequel.
Also, I was never a fan of the first Hangover. Over-rated.
Why? Likable characters and doesn't resort to an unfunny sequel.
Also, I was never a fan of the first Hangover. Over-rated.
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1:20AM on 02/28/2013
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