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Furious 8 has some problems under the hood halting its ignition

09.23.2015

The FAST & FURIOUS... or is it FAST/FURIOUS... franchise has taken it to another level ever since they abandoned much of the street racing element that carried it through the first four films Once they went much more ensemble/heist in their focus, their box office numbers have been astronomical, and, like a fine wine, they've seemingly gotten better with age. After all, going back to that first film, if you would have told me that it would have started something that is now set to head into its eighth movie, I probably would have laughed so hard that I would have peed myself.

But here we are with FAST FIVE, FAST & FURIOUS 6 and FURIOUS 7 setting the stage for the series to keep on going into the future, stronger than ever. In the past, we've heard Universal exhibit so much confidence in what they have on their hands that they'd like to at least get F&F into double-digit entries, but they have to start with #8 first... and that's proving to be more difficult than originally imagined. 

A release date for the film has already been set, with Universal sticking its flag in April 14, 2017, but when you don't have a director lined up to execute that plan... Well, that's a bit of a problem.

Originally Universal wanted James Wan, who moved away from his horror roots to do FURIOUS 7, to return for another go-'round. In fact, the studio even has options on Wan to direct the eighth and ninth installments. But Wan opted to instead do a sequel to THE CONJURING. That was fine by Universal, as they thought they might be able to lure Justin Lin back to the series after stepping away for a film, but once Lin signed on for STAR TREK 3, that left Universal between a rock and a hard place.

They went back to Wan, offering up an obscene amount of money, hoping he wouldnt be able to balk at the truckload of cash they backed up to his house. However, Wan didn't exactly have the best experience directing FURIOUS 7. There was the unfortunate death of Paul Walker that the production suffered and eventually had to deal with, using rewrites and digital technology to work around his loss in order to complete the film. In addition, Vin Diesel, while the personable face of the franchise, wasn't exactly a peach to deal with behind the scenes. As a producer, Diesel reportedly questioned even the most minute details during action setups, holding up the production until he was satisfied. Then there was the matter of calling Wan into late-night script sessions to get a better understanding and feel for what his character was doing and the dialogue he'd be saying.

Universal, Diesel and Wan all deny these instances took place, saying it was all a very collaborative effort. But, when push comes to shove, Wan stuck with his CONJURING decision, opting for peace of mind and his sanity over a fat wallet and another F&F movie.

That leaves Universal still in search of a filmmaker to make this eighth movie happen, as Chris Morgan keeps cranking away at the script. Universal has been looking into some veteran action directors who could perhaps handle the magnititude of the film (Jaume Collet-Serra is one name the studio looked into, but he was unavailable). They're also looking at some relative newcomers who might be able to cut their teeth here in a big way, but think about it. If Wan had his problems with a film of this nature, someone else without his cache might prove to be a disastrous direction to take. Diesel does have to be consulting on the directorial search, but he does not have the power to veto any choices when they're ultimately made.

There are some who believe Diesel would love a shot at helming one of these pictures, but, for a debut, F&F would be a massive undertaking, and, considering the goodwill he's built for himself since returning to the series, it seems like a tough spot to put yourself if this is the one that winds up going sour.

In the meantime, Universal will continue to do their due dilligence and hopefully turn up a name that would make the right fit for the next step in the franchise. However, with studio co-president of production Jeffrey Kirschenbaum, who oversaw the franchise and really helped get it back on track after the Walker tragedy, recently exiting, things have started coming apart a tad without that glue there to keep it all together. Now it's up to someone else to step up and keep this train rolling before a potential mess derails the success they've built.

FURIOUS 8 is supposed to be released on April 14, 2017. We'll see if that happens.

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3:09PM on 09/24/2015
despite the floating shitberg that Green Lantern turned out to be in the end, i think Martin Campbell could do a F&F film justice. Things like Goldeneye, the Zorro movies, and Casino Royale are full of cheesy dialog and great action.
despite the floating shitberg that Green Lantern turned out to be in the end, i think Martin Campbell could do a F&F film justice. Things like Goldeneye, the Zorro movies, and Casino Royale are full of cheesy dialog and great action.
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9:49AM on 09/24/2015
Very unlikely to happen. But I would like to see Renny Harlin give it a shot.
Very unlikely to happen. But I would like to see Renny Harlin give it a shot.
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4:58AM on 09/24/2015

Terrible "article"

You guys need to make a choice...are you going to report movie news, or publish opinion based articles? I've been coming here since 2001, and I'm used to picking up FACTS and information, not reading between the line opinions that I honestly could form for myself. If I ran this website, I'd be embarrassed by this "article". It's nonsense.
You guys need to make a choice...are you going to report movie news, or publish opinion based articles? I've been coming here since 2001, and I'm used to picking up FACTS and information, not reading between the line opinions that I honestly could form for myself. If I ran this website, I'd be embarrassed by this "article". It's nonsense.
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11:51AM on 09/24/2015
Glad I'm not the only one who has noticed, especially from this particular writer.
Glad I'm not the only one who has noticed, especially from this particular writer.
4:27AM on 09/24/2015
I liked 6 more than 7 and I thought 7 didn't utilize Statham well enough. I'd get the John Wick dudes to do 8.
I liked 6 more than 7 and I thought 7 didn't utilize Statham well enough. I'd get the John Wick dudes to do 8.
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12:05AM on 09/24/2015
anyone notice this new author (Billy Donnelly) just keeps posting articles and trashing movies and putting it as though his opinion is the overwhelming consensus?

Two prometheus articles: This movie is garbage and no one wanted a sequel
ID42: Prequel comic coming. Looks like Sequel will be riddled with continuity errors and garbage
F8: This franchise sucks etc

like who does he think he is? Ya throwing in your 2 cents here or there is cool, but man. Your articles aren't objective at all.
anyone notice this new author (Billy Donnelly) just keeps posting articles and trashing movies and putting it as though his opinion is the overwhelming consensus?

Two prometheus articles: This movie is garbage and no one wanted a sequel
ID42: Prequel comic coming. Looks like Sequel will be riddled with continuity errors and garbage
F8: This franchise sucks etc

like who does he think he is? Ya throwing in your 2 cents here or there is cool, but man. Your articles aren't objective at all.
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12:27AM on 09/24/2015
This guy used to write for Aint It Cool under Billy the Kidd, and he literally hated every single movie he had to watch. One of the worst on that site, I can see already that not much has changed...
This guy used to write for Aint It Cool under Billy the Kidd, and he literally hated every single movie he had to watch. One of the worst on that site, I can see already that not much has changed...
4:59AM on 09/24/2015
This guy is the worst.
This guy is the worst.
8:57AM on 09/24/2015
In his defense regarding the ID42 prequel comic, that does sound like a terrible idea. It's being billed as a psychological prison drama? How does that connect to the original movie?

And I definitely never got any inference from this article that he thinks the FF franchise sucks. Just that there are production issues that need to be addressed and may potentially delay production.
In his defense regarding the ID42 prequel comic, that does sound like a terrible idea. It's being billed as a psychological prison drama? How does that connect to the original movie?

And I definitely never got any inference from this article that he thinks the FF franchise sucks. Just that there are production issues that need to be addressed and may potentially delay production.
11:49AM on 09/24/2015
I said the same thing in his Prometheus story.
I said the same thing in his Prometheus story.
12:36PM on 09/24/2015
Where exactly did I state that the F&F franchise sucks? I'd love for you to point out those words I never wrote.
Where exactly did I state that the F&F franchise sucks? I'd love for you to point out those words I never wrote.
12:44PM on 09/24/2015
Agree 100%
Agree 100%
10:50PM on 09/23/2015

Paul Walker hated Vin Diesel.

The whole "padre" angle Diesel has sold since his death is a smart business move (especially for a franchise that prides itself in family spirit) but an artificial one. Diesel had producer power on F&F4 and not only fucked Walker over financially, cutting his pay, but also was a total dickhead to him during negotiations for the film (forcing Walker to go to every meeting with a team of lawyers). Walker was friendly with all of the other cast members from the films off the set -- except for
The whole "padre" angle Diesel has sold since his death is a smart business move (especially for a franchise that prides itself in family spirit) but an artificial one. Diesel had producer power on F&F4 and not only fucked Walker over financially, cutting his pay, but also was a total dickhead to him during negotiations for the film (forcing Walker to go to every meeting with a team of lawyers). Walker was friendly with all of the other cast members from the films off the set -- except for Diesel. If you go back to interviews surrounding the releases of the prior three films, you'll find few with them one-on-one, and those you do find reveal much tension, like this one: [link]

The guy has a bad reputation and it's part of the reason his career was on the skids before F&F reignited it. He's not a fun guy to work with by most accounts and does indeed seem to have his head stuck up his own ass. DISCLAIMER: This is all "allegedly," of course. ;)
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11:07PM on 09/23/2015
I can tell you this, he is just as much of a cockbag as you make him sound, and even more so. My now ex girilfriend, was his on and off girlfriend for awhile from the pitch black and FF1 time. I have seen photos and emails between them she kept. The stories she told me sickened me. The way he treated those around him, not her she admitted though, was like everyone was beneath him. From refusing to tip anyone because he thought it was a privilege to just serve him to literally smacking his
I can tell you this, he is just as much of a cockbag as you make him sound, and even more so. My now ex girilfriend, was his on and off girlfriend for awhile from the pitch black and FF1 time. I have seen photos and emails between them she kept. The stories she told me sickened me. The way he treated those around him, not her she admitted though, was like everyone was beneath him. From refusing to tip anyone because he thought it was a privilege to just serve him to literally smacking his assistant upside the head around her. She didn't have many, if any, nice things to say about him. She admitted she was young and just stayed with him for the life, and since he didn't have much in the way of attraction to her because of her wrong equipment *wink wink*, she didn't care. But it grew to the point not even she could stomach it. But the stories she tells are not flattering.
5:04AM on 09/24/2015
I don't buy any of this. This sounds like bias.
I don't buy any of this. This sounds like bias.
7:44AM on 09/24/2015
While this may very well be true, that interview didn't really show me anything more than that Paul Walker worked better with a script in front of him.
While this may very well be true, that interview didn't really show me anything more than that Paul Walker worked better with a script in front of him.
7:57PM on 09/23/2015
I can believe the rumors about Vin. It's a recurring thing in his movies that his characters makes Steven Seagal like speeches. I can't quite remember but wasn't there something about his creativity causing problems during the making of the second Riddick film?
I can believe the rumors about Vin. It's a recurring thing in his movies that his characters makes Steven Seagal like speeches. I can't quite remember but wasn't there something about his creativity causing problems during the making of the second Riddick film?
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6:56PM on 09/23/2015

ill say it...

John Mctiernan.
John Mctiernan.
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6:54PM on 09/23/2015
As much as I enjoy this series, I really think Fast 7 should have been the last one considering the circumstances.

And I'm glad Wan is back helming Conjuring 2. Much more excited for that than I am for another Furious film.
As much as I enjoy this series, I really think Fast 7 should have been the last one considering the circumstances.

And I'm glad Wan is back helming Conjuring 2. Much more excited for that than I am for another Furious film.
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6:38PM on 09/23/2015
How is this even news? You don't need a big name director for a Fast & Furious movie, just get the guy who did that F&F clone Need For Speed, the movie blew, but he handled the action scenes quite well. A freaking monkey could direct these films & it will make money.
How is this even news? You don't need a big name director for a Fast & Furious movie, just get the guy who did that F&F clone Need For Speed, the movie blew, but he handled the action scenes quite well. A freaking monkey could direct these films & it will make money.
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10:49PM on 09/23/2015
When it comes down to it they just need a second unit director with serious chops to shape the action. Morgan, the actors and producers can take care of the rest. Alexander Witt is one of the best in the business and has already worked on Fast Five. His schedule looks open now that he's wrapped on Spectre...
When it comes down to it they just need a second unit director with serious chops to shape the action. Morgan, the actors and producers can take care of the rest. Alexander Witt is one of the best in the business and has already worked on Fast Five. His schedule looks open now that he's wrapped on Spectre...
6:23PM on 09/23/2015
If you're gonna keep spewing about it being "one last ride," why don't you actually mean it for once?

'Furious 7' was a perfect bookend to the series but alas this is Hollywood, so who am I kidding...
If you're gonna keep spewing about it being "one last ride," why don't you actually mean it for once?

'Furious 7' was a perfect bookend to the series but alas this is Hollywood, so who am I kidding...
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