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George Lucas says that Han did not shoot first

02.09.2012

Is George Lucas trolling us?

While doing press for the 3D release of THE PHANTOM MENACE, Lucas told The Hollywood Reporter that Han did not shoot first.

Here's what he had to say:

"The controversy over who shot first, Greedo or Han Solo, in Episode IV, what I did was try to clean up the confusion, but obviously it upset people because they wanted Solo [who seemed to be the one who shot first in the original] to be a cold-blooded killer, but he actually isn’t. It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom. I put a little wider shot in there that made it clear that Greedo is the one who shot first, but everyone wanted to think that Han shot first, because they wanted to think that he actually just gunned him down."

I never ever, ever, ever thought of Han as a cold-blooded killer, nor did I think that any of the fans of the series thought that way. Devin Faraci over at Badass Digest nails it, "They want Han to be a guy with some badassness who isn't going to wait for the villain - who is essentially stating his intention to kill him - to take the shot. It's doubly ridiculous when you look at the new version, where Greedo proves himself to be the most pathetic shot in the galaxy, and when you consider Storm Troopers live in that galaxy that's saying something."

I then recalled the original article with The NY Times where Lucas states that he's retiring. When the many changes that have been made to the STAR WARS series were brought up, this is what was said:

When fanboys wailed, Lucas did not just hear the scream of young Jedis; he heard something like the voice of the studio. The dumb, uncomprehending voice in his Socratic dialogues — a voice telling him how to make a blockbuster. “On the Internet, all those same guys that are complaining I made a change are completely changing the movie,” Lucas says, referring to fans who, like the dreaded studios, have done their own forcible re-edits. “I’m saying: ‘Fine. But my movie, with my name on it, that says I did it, needs to be the way I want it.’ ”

Lucas seized control of his movies from the studios only to discover that the fanboys could still give him script notes. “Why would I make any more,” Lucas says of the “Star Wars” movies, “when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?”

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11:35AM on 02/11/2012
Honestly, who cares???
Honestly, who cares???
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11:27AM on 02/11/2012

its gonna be a sad day...

when that baggy throat pouch of his finally bursts like a boil and all that bullshit comes flying out...
when that baggy throat pouch of his finally bursts like a boil and all that bullshit comes flying out...
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11:49PM on 02/10/2012

Fraud

Why would Lucas wear the "Han Shot first" shirt(as pictured above) if he truly believes that was never meant to be the case? With all his ranting lately I don't feel like he's the type to say "boy, wouldn't it be ironic if I wore this shirt, maybe now Harrison Ford will like me again!" I would more imagine he would buy the clothing line and re-edit all the shirts to say "Han shot second" At this point I don't think Lucas will be happy until everyone hates him.
Why would Lucas wear the "Han Shot first" shirt(as pictured above) if he truly believes that was never meant to be the case? With all his ranting lately I don't feel like he's the type to say "boy, wouldn't it be ironic if I wore this shirt, maybe now Harrison Ford will like me again!" I would more imagine he would buy the clothing line and re-edit all the shirts to say "Han shot second" At this point I don't think Lucas will be happy until everyone hates him.
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4:16PM on 02/10/2012
I really don't understand the big fuss over this. It doesn't matter who shot first, the result is the same: Greedo's dead and the bartender still has to clean up that mess.
I really don't understand the big fuss over this. It doesn't matter who shot first, the result is the same: Greedo's dead and the bartender still has to clean up that mess.
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2:43PM on 02/10/2012
The original script has Han shooting first and only. LucasFail.
The original script has Han shooting first and only. LucasFail.
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1:50PM on 02/10/2012
This goes to prove how BAD a writer Lucas is. Sure Star wars was quite the phenomenon, a space soap opera that took the world by storm and made Lucas ridiculously wealthy. Fanboys couldn't wait for the next movies. But if Han didn't shoot first, Lucas has no understanding of complex rogue characters. His prequel films truly lacked genuine characters, they seemed hollow.
This goes to prove how BAD a writer Lucas is. Sure Star wars was quite the phenomenon, a space soap opera that took the world by storm and made Lucas ridiculously wealthy. Fanboys couldn't wait for the next movies. But if Han didn't shoot first, Lucas has no understanding of complex rogue characters. His prequel films truly lacked genuine characters, they seemed hollow.
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12:54PM on 02/10/2012

Lucas knows he's wrong

And has always known it! He just doesn't care because this is how HE sees his creation should be.
He even knows how a bad writer he is: remember the (inside) Lucasfilm teaser poster for Episode 1 spoofing Emmerich's Godzilla teaser poster "Script does matter" instead of "Size does matter", HE was the one making it disappear from the medias... Because he KNEW how bad his script was... GOOD script does matter, Georges!
Ho, and, by the way... HAN SHOT FIRST, Period!
And has always known it! He just doesn't care because this is how HE sees his creation should be.
He even knows how a bad writer he is: remember the (inside) Lucasfilm teaser poster for Episode 1 spoofing Emmerich's Godzilla teaser poster "Script does matter" instead of "Size does matter", HE was the one making it disappear from the medias... Because he KNEW how bad his script was... GOOD script does matter, Georges!
Ho, and, by the way... HAN SHOT FIRST, Period!
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12:49PM on 02/10/2012
Lucas, GTFO! Sell the rights so we can get a real Star Wars movie for our generation. I'm thinking KOTOR or Force Unleashed type storyline. Fuck Yeah!
Lucas, GTFO! Sell the rights so we can get a real Star Wars movie for our generation. I'm thinking KOTOR or Force Unleashed type storyline. Fuck Yeah!
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10:49AM on 02/10/2012

Lucas is not evil. just corrupted

"But my movie, with my name on it, that says I did it, needs to be the way I want it"

That doesn't even make sense. the original edit still has his fucking name on it.

"...all those same guys that are complaining I made a change are completely changing the movie"

The special edition I mostly had no problem with at the time, cgied landscapes, altered credits, augmented explosions. but the most drastic changes (looney tunes' Jabba, han shooting first) changed the characters: They made
"But my movie, with my name on it, that says I did it, needs to be the way I want it"

That doesn't even make sense. the original edit still has his fucking name on it.

"...all those same guys that are complaining I made a change are completely changing the movie"

The special edition I mostly had no problem with at the time, cgied landscapes, altered credits, augmented explosions. but the most drastic changes (looney tunes' Jabba, han shooting first) changed the characters: They made pussies of Jabba & Han!

I wouldn't mind the special editions if lucas had done the same thing spielberg did with E.T.

Put both version on the same damn disk.

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10:40AM on 02/10/2012

NEWSFLASH!

George Lucas likes stirring s@!t!!
George Lucas likes stirring s@!t!!
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10:33AM on 02/10/2012
Honestly, unless you're 5 years old, you shouldn't care about anything SW related anymore.. that's Lucas' target now, so it's time to move on. Complaining about the changes is like complaining about the Clone Wars show, which is like complaining about Cars 2, Ben10 or whatever.

I bet 15-20 years ago you guys (me included) used to watch the movies several times a year. When was the last time you had a Star Wars weekend?

Soon they'll replace the lightsabers with pink walkie-talkies and you
Honestly, unless you're 5 years old, you shouldn't care about anything SW related anymore.. that's Lucas' target now, so it's time to move on. Complaining about the changes is like complaining about the Clone Wars show, which is like complaining about Cars 2, Ben10 or whatever.

I bet 15-20 years ago you guys (me included) used to watch the movies several times a year. When was the last time you had a Star Wars weekend?

Soon they'll replace the lightsabers with pink walkie-talkies and you know what... it doesn't matter. If you (as I was) were lucky enough to see the original versions on the big screen and then on VHS, just be glad you belong to a blessed "A long time ago.." generation.

I personally prefer to be on a lookout for the new Star Trek movie, Riddick sequel, Avengers and Prometheus... a lot of great things comming soon!
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11:47AM on 02/10/2012
Unfortunately, I had a Star Wars weekend last weekend, but then again, I have 2 kids.
Unfortunately, I had a Star Wars weekend last weekend, but then again, I have 2 kids.
10:00AM on 02/10/2012
Don't worry fanboys - Han gets it off first on the Cairo swordsman.
Don't worry fanboys - Han gets it off first on the Cairo swordsman.
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11:19AM on 02/10/2012
FUCKING A!!!
FUCKING A!!!
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9:47AM on 02/10/2012
I don't think George Lucas understands what "cold-blooded" means. Greedo wasn't defenseless, he was armed and about to shoot Han in the face point blank. Han was just quicker on the draw, and there nothing un-heroic about that. Indiana Jones famously shot a threatening swordsman at a distance of perhaps 10 meters, does that make him a "cold-blooded killer"?
I don't think George Lucas understands what "cold-blooded" means. Greedo wasn't defenseless, he was armed and about to shoot Han in the face point blank. Han was just quicker on the draw, and there nothing un-heroic about that. Indiana Jones famously shot a threatening swordsman at a distance of perhaps 10 meters, does that make him a "cold-blooded killer"?
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9:31AM on 02/10/2012
I dont think Lucas realizes that people aren't bitching about the changes. People are pissed because he is shoving the altered versions down our throats without giving us a choice. Blade Runner has all versions available so that people can watch their preferred version. That's all people are asking Lucas to do and he can't get his head of ass long enough to see that.
Any ways I want a hero that works in shades of gray like Han. That's why he is one of my favorite characters in movie history.
I dont think Lucas realizes that people aren't bitching about the changes. People are pissed because he is shoving the altered versions down our throats without giving us a choice. Blade Runner has all versions available so that people can watch their preferred version. That's all people are asking Lucas to do and he can't get his head of ass long enough to see that.
Any ways I want a hero that works in shades of gray like Han. That's why he is one of my favorite characters in movie history. The original trilogy shows a great arc for his character and I think showing him shot second is a detriment to his arc. It really comes down to self defense and Han wasn't going to go out like a bitch and he'd do any thing to make sure he didn't. That's why Han will always shot first in my mind.
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8:34AM on 02/10/2012
It has been YEARS since I watched Star Wars (I once did it bi-monthly), but I remember hearing Greedo's gun fire. Now, did I really know he shot first? No. And I didn't care. It never needed to be clarified for my purposes.
I actually feel a little sorry for Lucas because, I don't care how rich he is, by naively trying to alter and improve on HIS movies, he has incurred such a backlash that is mostly not very well articulated. But when you make yourself about only one or two franchise
It has been YEARS since I watched Star Wars (I once did it bi-monthly), but I remember hearing Greedo's gun fire. Now, did I really know he shot first? No. And I didn't care. It never needed to be clarified for my purposes.
I actually feel a little sorry for Lucas because, I don't care how rich he is, by naively trying to alter and improve on HIS movies, he has incurred such a backlash that is mostly not very well articulated. But when you make yourself about only one or two franchise properties, instead of branching out like he should've done a long time ago. He couldn't let go of his babies. And so he coddled them, and stifled them. The Star Wars universe used to feel a lot bigger than it does now.
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8:27AM on 02/10/2012
This is such a stupid debate. Why are people so angry? Greedo did shoot first. ...Well at least since 2004 (or 2003). I never went and saw the re-release back in the 90's so I don't know how it happens in that version. But does it really matter? At the end of the day, Han smoked his ass.
This is such a stupid debate. Why are people so angry? Greedo did shoot first. ...Well at least since 2004 (or 2003). I never went and saw the re-release back in the 90's so I don't know how it happens in that version. But does it really matter? At the end of the day, Han smoked his ass.
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11:06AM on 02/10/2012
A stupid debate you can't join in because you haven't seen the original versions...
A stupid debate you can't join in because you haven't seen the original versions...
12:22PM on 02/11/2012
Just learned, the dvd's I have are the re-releases of the 90's (I just wasn't sure before). While I am not diehard, I do consider myself a fan. The special edition is the version I am most familiar with and it's the version I watch the most. I welcomed the changes that were made in the 90's because I believed polishing an old movie with modern special effects was a fantastic idea. This is the version I know, this is the version I have accepted. So even with the shoot-out edit, Han to me is
Just learned, the dvd's I have are the re-releases of the 90's (I just wasn't sure before). While I am not diehard, I do consider myself a fan. The special edition is the version I am most familiar with and it's the version I watch the most. I welcomed the changes that were made in the 90's because I believed polishing an old movie with modern special effects was a fantastic idea. This is the version I know, this is the version I have accepted. So even with the shoot-out edit, Han to me is still a tough SOB. Watching the "theatrical" clip of that scene on youtube, doesn't change how I feel about the guy. And honestly, I understand why GL added the scene in between the cut/take. Basically to clarify Han had no way out. So in one version Han can either shoot Greedo or be taken to Jabba and die. Or in the SpEd, Han can either be killed in the cantina or kill in defense.
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7:52AM on 02/10/2012
So it's ok for Han to be a scoundrelous smuggler that smuggles shit and does jobs for galactic Mafia but he's not allowed to get the jump on a would be assassin in the form of personnel protection. Just wondering Mr Lucas which chin did you pull that bright idea from. Stop fucking with the Wars man. Sheesh.
So it's ok for Han to be a scoundrelous smuggler that smuggles shit and does jobs for galactic Mafia but he's not allowed to get the jump on a would be assassin in the form of personnel protection. Just wondering Mr Lucas which chin did you pull that bright idea from. Stop fucking with the Wars man. Sheesh.
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7:31AM on 02/10/2012

I see

Everyone on this thread who have said anything positive about George Lucas have a rash of 'Thumbs Downs'. I see.

I'm comforted to know that like usual, I'm not a part of the status quo.


Everyone on this thread who have said anything positive about George Lucas have a rash of 'Thumbs Downs'. I see.

I'm comforted to know that like usual, I'm not a part of the status quo.


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7:09AM on 02/10/2012
Lucas is right. Only I think Han and Greedo should have simply hugged and went their separate ways. Bounty hunters and smugglers do that, right?
Lucas is right. Only I think Han and Greedo should have simply hugged and went their separate ways. Bounty hunters and smugglers do that, right?
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6:48AM on 02/10/2012
I'd love to put Lucas in a house-maze full of lethal traps with his thyroid medicine as the prize at the end.

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I'd love to put Lucas in a house-maze full of lethal traps with his thyroid medicine as the prize at the end.

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4:40AM on 02/10/2012
George just doesn't get it. You can't force an audience to like something. The people he's bitching about made him rich beyond his wildest dreams. In the end the public decides what is or is not a classic. Do you think he's losing his mind? It's a sad thought. This guy used to inspire me so much.
George just doesn't get it. You can't force an audience to like something. The people he's bitching about made him rich beyond his wildest dreams. In the end the public decides what is or is not a classic. Do you think he's losing his mind? It's a sad thought. This guy used to inspire me so much.
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4:32AM on 02/10/2012

Makes sense

Spielberg had a similar problem with the Indiana Jones scene where Indiana Jones shot somebody. In both cases the characters were acting in self defense: if somebody comes after you with a weapon, be it a knife or a laser gun, you shoot first. What has happened here is that both of them had a change of heart when they saw their films in the theatre: they saw what they did as glorifying gun violence. Lucas has gone so far as to change the scene digitally to make it look as though Han actually
Spielberg had a similar problem with the Indiana Jones scene where Indiana Jones shot somebody. In both cases the characters were acting in self defense: if somebody comes after you with a weapon, be it a knife or a laser gun, you shoot first. What has happened here is that both of them had a change of heart when they saw their films in the theatre: they saw what they did as glorifying gun violence. Lucas has gone so far as to change the scene digitally to make it look as though Han actually waited for Guido to pull the trigger... which would have been a stupid thing to do.
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3:59AM on 02/10/2012
For some reason George Lucas is hell bent on destroying everything I ever liked about him or Star Wars. I seriously can't believe I'd ever agree with Devin Faraci on anything but then again 13 years ago I never thought I'd see a shitty Star Wars movie (let alone 2 more of them) guess there is a first time for everything.
For some reason George Lucas is hell bent on destroying everything I ever liked about him or Star Wars. I seriously can't believe I'd ever agree with Devin Faraci on anything but then again 13 years ago I never thought I'd see a shitty Star Wars movie (let alone 2 more of them) guess there is a first time for everything.
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3:12AM on 02/10/2012

Did you SEE that scene...?

...gun is all at the wrong angle and ...sure you have a wide shot, but at least digitally correct the positions of the guns... its' awkward and very "after-thought-ish" ...much like the whole Leia is my sister don't talk about that kiss thing... but, you know...Im just saying. For a writer that is so concerned about these things...you could have made the same shocking reveal without them being so intimate--almost had to digitally remove Luke shooting first on that one...heh...that sounded
...gun is all at the wrong angle and ...sure you have a wide shot, but at least digitally correct the positions of the guns... its' awkward and very "after-thought-ish" ...much like the whole Leia is my sister don't talk about that kiss thing... but, you know...Im just saying. For a writer that is so concerned about these things...you could have made the same shocking reveal without them being so intimate--almost had to digitally remove Luke shooting first on that one...heh...that sounded weird, sorry.
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1:24AM on 02/10/2012
im gunna go out on a limb here and admit that Ep.1 and 3 arent that bad guys. Ep.2 on the other hand was hot garbage. IMO
im gunna go out on a limb here and admit that Ep.1 and 3 arent that bad guys. Ep.2 on the other hand was hot garbage. IMO
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1:21AM on 02/10/2012

Disappointed, once again...

This statement further ensures that STAR WARS is nothing but a pillow case now...a cover stuffed with fluff...If Han Solo can't flame a guy out straight away...NO ONE CAN in the entire history of film- ever...Lucas is saying this, bc the audience core now is little kids, he's gotta sell the buzz that Han is not a cold blooded killer, bc the generation is that of the young soft Ep 1,2,3 kids coming aboard filling a new slot as each one of us that LOVED the old gritty ones, untouched, rightfully
This statement further ensures that STAR WARS is nothing but a pillow case now...a cover stuffed with fluff...If Han Solo can't flame a guy out straight away...NO ONE CAN in the entire history of film- ever...Lucas is saying this, bc the audience core now is little kids, he's gotta sell the buzz that Han is not a cold blooded killer, bc the generation is that of the young soft Ep 1,2,3 kids coming aboard filling a new slot as each one of us that LOVED the old gritty ones, untouched, rightfully jumps from our old slot...he's never been a great director or writer LAWRENCE KASDAN MADE THOSE SCRIPTS FOR 4,5,6 WORK...Lucas- he's an "idea guy", and a great marketer...but even the great marketer bit is running on fumes for the generation that gassed his tank up in the first place.
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10:13AM on 02/10/2012
Old gritty ones??? Episode 3 is without a doubt the darkest fuckin STAR WARS film.. Anakin murders defenseless young jedi and chokes up his future baby mama.. Mace Windu gets thrown out a window while permanately transforming the Emperor into the ugliest guy in the galaxy.. And the Bad guys win.. No, but I guess that Ewok movie was pretty dark too. All that singing and dancing scared the the shit out of me.
Old gritty ones??? Episode 3 is without a doubt the darkest fuckin STAR WARS film.. Anakin murders defenseless young jedi and chokes up his future baby mama.. Mace Windu gets thrown out a window while permanately transforming the Emperor into the ugliest guy in the galaxy.. And the Bad guys win.. No, but I guess that Ewok movie was pretty dark too. All that singing and dancing scared the the shit out of me.
12:52PM on 02/10/2012
Gritty in the sense of how they were made...practical, hands on, down in the dirt, less polished, rebels, snow, sand, real props, real gritty hands-on work. model makers gritting their teeth figuring it out, gritty where costumes makers were pulling together cool stuff pretty much from just random shit...not gritty in tone in full part...gritty as in these guys came in with grit and conquered a massive task.
Gritty in the sense of how they were made...practical, hands on, down in the dirt, less polished, rebels, snow, sand, real props, real gritty hands-on work. model makers gritting their teeth figuring it out, gritty where costumes makers were pulling together cool stuff pretty much from just random shit...not gritty in tone in full part...gritty as in these guys came in with grit and conquered a massive task.
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11:49PM on 02/09/2012
Sooo, I'm guessing Lucas never argues for the case of SELF DEFENSE. Everyone who shoots someone, never mind they have a deadly weapon pointed at their face and are being threatened with violence, is a "cold-blooded killer"? It's a good thing Lucas made sure his next hero Indiana Jones was not a killer...oh wait, he was. Big time. He shot a swordsman in the chest from 40 feet away, and it was funny and badass. Lucas needs to shut up about Han Solo. Seriously. He has every right to change his own
Sooo, I'm guessing Lucas never argues for the case of SELF DEFENSE. Everyone who shoots someone, never mind they have a deadly weapon pointed at their face and are being threatened with violence, is a "cold-blooded killer"? It's a good thing Lucas made sure his next hero Indiana Jones was not a killer...oh wait, he was. Big time. He shot a swordsman in the chest from 40 feet away, and it was funny and badass. Lucas needs to shut up about Han Solo. Seriously. He has every right to change his own movies, even though I think what he's done to them is largely terrible, but please do not say another word about Han Solo. You're getting your own character WRONG and that is just sad.
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11:43PM on 02/09/2012
Does it really make a difference who shot who? After all these years, does George Lucas really need to come out and give us his take on what happened? I think the whole idea should be left up to the fans to decide and talk about, without being given an answer.
Does it really make a difference who shot who? After all these years, does George Lucas really need to come out and give us his take on what happened? I think the whole idea should be left up to the fans to decide and talk about, without being given an answer.
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4:12AM on 02/10/2012
Kinda makes a difference to all the people that fell in love with the original where it was blatantly obvious who shot who, but now you're being told, no that wasn't the case? C'mon!
Kinda makes a difference to all the people that fell in love with the original where it was blatantly obvious who shot who, but now you're being told, no that wasn't the case? C'mon!
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11:28PM on 02/09/2012
I don't care. This movie wasn't even that good.
I don't care. This movie wasn't even that good.
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11:13PM on 02/09/2012
And we still have Episode 1 in 3D. Did the studio make it themselves or Lucas has a dip in profit with the 3D release? They could erase Jar Jar Binks altogether for all I care.
And we still have Episode 1 in 3D. Did the studio make it themselves or Lucas has a dip in profit with the 3D release? They could erase Jar Jar Binks altogether for all I care.
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11:12PM on 02/09/2012
Thank you the original Star Wars films. As for the rest well go F yourself.
Thank you the original Star Wars films. As for the rest well go F yourself.
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11:10PM on 02/09/2012
if i wanted to read Devin Faraci's garbage, I'd still visit C.H.U.D.
if i wanted to read Devin Faraci's garbage, I'd still visit C.H.U.D.
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6:26AM on 02/10/2012
What the hell does that have to do with anything?

And Devin doesn't write for CHUD anymore either.
What the hell does that have to do with anything?

And Devin doesn't write for CHUD anymore either.
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11:05PM on 02/09/2012

Whaaat?

So Greedo has enough skills to track Solo down but completely misses him with a shot from 4 feet away? Makes sense....
So Greedo has enough skills to track Solo down but completely misses him with a shot from 4 feet away? Makes sense....
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10:46PM on 02/09/2012
"It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom."

A quick YouTube check says that you, Mr. Lucas, are full of shit. Or maybe just suffered a minor head injury (might want to get that checked out). There's no confusion, no unnecessary close-ups or sloppy editing. HAN FUCKING SHOOTS FIRST. It doesn't make him a "cold-blooded killer", it just means that he's practical. He leads a dangerous life and does whatever it takes to survive. That's what makes him
"It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom."

A quick YouTube check says that you, Mr. Lucas, are full of shit. Or maybe just suffered a minor head injury (might want to get that checked out). There's no confusion, no unnecessary close-ups or sloppy editing. HAN FUCKING SHOOTS FIRST. It doesn't make him a "cold-blooded killer", it just means that he's practical. He leads a dangerous life and does whatever it takes to survive. That's what makes him such a great character: he may be a hero, but he's in no way perfect. He has a sense of honor and ethics, but he's not a fucking boy scout.

I don't even know why I'm bothering to state all this, as it's completely obvious to anyone who watches the original film. Mr. Lucas, if you want to go and make fifty billion cuts of your movie, then fine, that's your right (unfortunately). But don't try to bullshit your fans with silly arguments like this one. It's just insulting.
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10:43PM on 02/09/2012

Who cares...

Why don't you give us some real star wars movies instead of your greedy 3D horse shit. Seriously who are you James fuckin cameron???
Why don't you give us some real star wars movies instead of your greedy 3D horse shit. Seriously who are you James fuckin cameron???
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10:25PM on 02/09/2012

i.. you know what?

*%#@ George Lucas... now he is lying to us and himself. glad he is retiring.
*%#@ George Lucas... now he is lying to us and himself. glad he is retiring.
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9:47PM on 02/09/2012
To reiterate what's already been said. He would receive considerably less hate if he'd release the original cuts (remastered for modern standards of course) so fans have the option to watch them.

I don't care about Star Wars anymore. I love the original trilogy, some of the books are great, and a few of the games are cool. But anything prequel related, or the animated series, I could care less.

There are too many tonal, stylistic, and content discrepancies between the original stuff and
To reiterate what's already been said. He would receive considerably less hate if he'd release the original cuts (remastered for modern standards of course) so fans have the option to watch them.

I don't care about Star Wars anymore. I love the original trilogy, some of the books are great, and a few of the games are cool. But anything prequel related, or the animated series, I could care less.

There are too many tonal, stylistic, and content discrepancies between the original stuff and the new stuff for me to care.

And Lucas is completely out of touch with reality. Watch all the press stuff he did for Red Tails (interviews, especially the one with Oprah) for all the proof you need.
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9:45PM on 02/09/2012

Han was never a murderer

Mr Lucas - Something interesting happens when you are making art. Sometimes things you don't intend for, and can't plan on, turn into moments of true genius - or happy accidents. Maybe you didn't mean for Han to shoot first - maybe that wasn't the message you intended to give us. But we never thought he was a cold blooded murderer. We thought he was a smuggler, in a bind and willing to be a little underhanded when pushed into a corner by a real slime bucket like Greedo. He was defending
Mr Lucas - Something interesting happens when you are making art. Sometimes things you don't intend for, and can't plan on, turn into moments of true genius - or happy accidents. Maybe you didn't mean for Han to shoot first - maybe that wasn't the message you intended to give us. But we never thought he was a cold blooded murderer. We thought he was a smuggler, in a bind and willing to be a little underhanded when pushed into a corner by a real slime bucket like Greedo. He was defending himself. But what was ultimately important about that scene the way it was originally shot, was that Han - grows over the course of these films. He goes from being self involved to thinking about the greater good. From being a smuggler who would have eventually ended up in a bad way - to being a hero. That story arc is still present in your preferred version of the film, but it is a lessened a little by reediting that scene for clarity. That unexpected moment of brilliance came from allowing him to be a little less respectable in the beginning, so that we could truly appreciate how much he grows as a character over the course of the film. It's not that we think of him as a murderer, Star Wars fans don't celebrate murder. No more than we celebrate Indiana Jones for being a murderer in his duel. No sir. That could not be farther from the truth. We applauded Han for rising to the challenge, and learning to follow a higher calling. And we recognize how vital that scene really was in proving us with a clear understanding of how much Han really grows as a person, from being reckless and self serving, to one day being a man worthy of being loved.

I love the scene both ways, but prefer it as it was originally shot. Please consider preserving your art in both formats for all to enjoy as they prefer. You're the only one that can do this for the fans, I think Star Wars can stand to have two versions available. Your fans would thank you for it.
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11:20PM on 02/09/2012
Hear, hear. Part of what makes Han Solo an interesting character is his development from anti-hero - "I'm only in it for the money" - to the guy who leads the ground assault on Endor. Just like Luke Skywalker goes from being a whiny kid to the guy who can bring his dad back from the Dark Side. Showing their weaknesses and their less-noble moments doesn't make them less heroic. It makes them more human.
Hear, hear. Part of what makes Han Solo an interesting character is his development from anti-hero - "I'm only in it for the money" - to the guy who leads the ground assault on Endor. Just like Luke Skywalker goes from being a whiny kid to the guy who can bring his dad back from the Dark Side. Showing their weaknesses and their less-noble moments doesn't make them less heroic. It makes them more human.
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9:13PM on 02/09/2012

So now Indian Jones cant shoot first?

In Raiders of the Lost Ark Indian Jones shoots a man with a sword during the chase scene in the market. That was one of the most memorable and awesome things to see happen. Did anyone think wow Indian is a cold bloody killer? HELL NO! I thought he was badass.... The same goes for Han solo....He is a smuggler for gods sake not a door to door sales man. Han solo has to be quick and smart and for a guy that owes Jabba the Hutt money he must know he has to watch his back... Han will always shoot
In Raiders of the Lost Ark Indian Jones shoots a man with a sword during the chase scene in the market. That was one of the most memorable and awesome things to see happen. Did anyone think wow Indian is a cold bloody killer? HELL NO! I thought he was badass.... The same goes for Han solo....He is a smuggler for gods sake not a door to door sales man. Han solo has to be quick and smart and for a guy that owes Jabba the Hutt money he must know he has to watch his back... Han will always shoot first..... Sir Lucas you created Starwars but us fans made it what it is... Hurry up and croak and let someone else continue this awesome space opera.......
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9:12PM on 02/09/2012

I have to say

the movies that everyone else made that are better, more beloved and more profitable are they way to go. Oh wait none of you actually made a classic movie that will live for all time, you just complained about his. Internet assassins unite!
the movies that everyone else made that are better, more beloved and more profitable are they way to go. Oh wait none of you actually made a classic movie that will live for all time, you just complained about his. Internet assassins unite!
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9:09PM on 02/09/2012

Hear, Hear!!

“Why would I make any more,” Lucas says of the “Star Wars” movies, “when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?”

I'm glad that George has finally said it himself. I've been enjoying Star Wars and everything it is since 1977. Now, my 11-year old son loves it too.

Thanks, George for making a series of films that:
Changed the way I saw the world
Introduced to the excitement that originality can offer.
Showed me that anything is possible if you want
“Why would I make any more,” Lucas says of the “Star Wars” movies, “when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?”

I'm glad that George has finally said it himself. I've been enjoying Star Wars and everything it is since 1977. Now, my 11-year old son loves it too.

Thanks, George for making a series of films that:
Changed the way I saw the world
Introduced to the excitement that originality can offer.
Showed me that anything is possible if you want it enough.

I say - "SW was original. Keep making them."

Noel Coward said it best, "As a general rule, the most uppish people I have met, have been those who never achieved anything whatsoever."

If you haven't made a film anywhere near what Star Wars is, what right do you have to criticize the creator of it?
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1:47AM on 02/10/2012
we have a right bc we are the audience...and as the audience we have a right to prick up our ears when Lucas re-packs a load of shit and tries to sell it to us again, and contradicts his own idealogy...he was once a maverick we identified with because he stuck by what he felt was true and right about the work he gave us...now "he's more machine than man", re-tooling, and double-talking his way thru legions of fans he's been appreciated by for over 30 years...it's not the filmmaker we are
we have a right bc we are the audience...and as the audience we have a right to prick up our ears when Lucas re-packs a load of shit and tries to sell it to us again, and contradicts his own idealogy...he was once a maverick we identified with because he stuck by what he felt was true and right about the work he gave us...now "he's more machine than man", re-tooling, and double-talking his way thru legions of fans he's been appreciated by for over 30 years...it's not the filmmaker we are criticizing...it's the man the filmmaker has become.
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8:43PM on 02/09/2012

NICE JOB

are you happy now all you critical shit heads? he's leaving. thanks to you.
are you happy now all you critical shit heads? he's leaving. thanks to you.
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8:27PM on 02/09/2012
Complete denial caused by money blindness and having nothing but yes men stuck up his fat ass all day. This guy is beyond saving and his work is just pathetic now. Same ignorant asshole who refuses to release the original, un-ruined trilogy on bluray. Fucking chode.
Complete denial caused by money blindness and having nothing but yes men stuck up his fat ass all day. This guy is beyond saving and his work is just pathetic now. Same ignorant asshole who refuses to release the original, un-ruined trilogy on bluray. Fucking chode.
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8:17PM on 02/09/2012
Either he's the Ultimate A-hole, he's beyond delusion or he's going senile. My guess is he's just an A-hole.
Either he's the Ultimate A-hole, he's beyond delusion or he's going senile. My guess is he's just an A-hole.
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8:18PM on 02/09/2012
"delusional" that is
"delusional" that is
8:15PM on 02/09/2012
Little advice, Lucas - you can't be a billionaire movie mogul and a victim at the same time. It's one or the other. You fucked up a beloved movie franchise. You know it, they know it. Everybody knows it. So STFU and retire already. We're tired of hearing you try to defend your incompetency.
Little advice, Lucas - you can't be a billionaire movie mogul and a victim at the same time. It's one or the other. You fucked up a beloved movie franchise. You know it, they know it. Everybody knows it. So STFU and retire already. We're tired of hearing you try to defend your incompetency.
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7:46PM on 02/09/2012

Oh George

Do what you want to Star Wars. Add Jar Jar to every film in the original trilogy; I don't care. But give us the option to WATCH THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY IN A MODERN FORMAT. That's what fans are mad about
Do what you want to Star Wars. Add Jar Jar to every film in the original trilogy; I don't care. But give us the option to WATCH THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY IN A MODERN FORMAT. That's what fans are mad about
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7:37PM on 02/09/2012
does it really matter?
does it really matter?
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7:16PM on 02/09/2012
No one cares anymore, Lucas. But, counter-point, even your script says Han simply shot him.
No one cares anymore, Lucas. But, counter-point, even your script says Han simply shot him.
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