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George Lucas says Star Wars "stood on the shoulders" of Star Trek

Jul. 10, 2013by: Jesse Giroux

Star Wars/Star Trek

Ah, the classic STAR WARS vs STAR TREK debate. Younger readers might not remember, but there was a time when fanboys of both franchises would constantly argue about which one is the superior sci-fi adventure. These debates still continue today, however the intensity of those arguments has definitely subsided the past few years. You'll still find one or two super hardcore fans every now and then but it's not like it was in the past when sometimes it felt like Syria vs Israel between the two fanbases.

TREK NATION is an upcoming documentary about how STAR TREK impacted the lives of many people and it's narrated by Rod Roddenberry, creator Gene Roddenberry's son. The film came out on DVD yesterday and one of the bonus features is an interview with George Lucas about how STAR TREK helped open the door for STAR WARS.

STAR TREK softened up the entertainment arena so that STAR WARS could come along and stand on its shoulders. There was an effective group of people in the beginning who accepted it..that it wasn't that far out. For the studios it was way far out, [they said] 'what is this?', but there was a fanbase out there -- primarily the STAR TREK fanbase -- who understood sci-fi, understood visual sci-fi, and was ready for something like this (STAR WARS) to be in the feature arena.

It's nice to see Lucas giving credit where credit's due, even if what he is saying isn't something new or groundbreaking. Ironically it was STAR WARS success that helped bring STAR TREK to the big screen, so I think it's safe to say both franchises have benefited from having the other around. Now play nice guys and don't ever, EVER call Han Solo a bitch.

Extra Tidbit: Now we just have to get Marvel and DC fanboys to kiss and make-up.

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12:33PM on 07/10/2013

DC Vs Marvel

Arguing the comics is one thing, but the movies is another. DC and Marvel debate will subside when DC starts making good movies. Yes the first two Nolan films were pretty good and the third as well as Man of Steel were ok. But that doesnt off set the sparsity of their production timeline and producing crap-fest films like "Catwoman" and "Jonah Hex". With the exception of "Blade", Marvel really went for their A-team movies before diverging into more obscure properties. They did Xmen and
Arguing the comics is one thing, but the movies is another. DC and Marvel debate will subside when DC starts making good movies. Yes the first two Nolan films were pretty good and the third as well as Man of Steel were ok. But that doesnt off set the sparsity of their production timeline and producing crap-fest films like "Catwoman" and "Jonah Hex". With the exception of "Blade", Marvel really went for their A-team movies before diverging into more obscure properties. They did Xmen and Spiderman first, even with the Avengers they did Iron Man and Hulk first instead of Wasp or Hawkeye solo films. Whose Idea was it at DC to produce a Jonah Hex movie before a Flash or Wonder Woman movie?
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12:31PM on 07/10/2013
As a huge Trekkie, I never understood the point of the rivalry. Star Trek and Star Wars are two different franchises with only a few things in common. I mean yeah, they are the two most popular science fiction franchises but this fighting between the two fandoms is getting old. Just watch both and we as fans can get along.

Oh and like halloweenshaper said, check out Trek Nation. It's a really touching documentary that just came out on DVD yesterday.
As a huge Trekkie, I never understood the point of the rivalry. Star Trek and Star Wars are two different franchises with only a few things in common. I mean yeah, they are the two most popular science fiction franchises but this fighting between the two fandoms is getting old. Just watch both and we as fans can get along.

Oh and like halloweenshaper said, check out Trek Nation. It's a really touching documentary that just came out on DVD yesterday.
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12:18PM on 07/10/2013

TREK vs. WARS

TREK NATION is actually three years old and has been available on Netflix Streaming for a while, so this is not really news. It's a fine documentary about Gene Roddenberry and TREK, and it was very nice to see Lucas respectfully acknowledge how STAR TREK paved the way in pop culture to help STAR WARS break out. Similarly, STAR WARS would pave the way for STAR TREK to make a return in movie theaters in 1979. So the franchises are equally indebted to one another. Which franchise is superior
TREK NATION is actually three years old and has been available on Netflix Streaming for a while, so this is not really news. It's a fine documentary about Gene Roddenberry and TREK, and it was very nice to see Lucas respectfully acknowledge how STAR TREK paved the way in pop culture to help STAR WARS break out. Similarly, STAR WARS would pave the way for STAR TREK to make a return in movie theaters in 1979. So the franchises are equally indebted to one another. Which franchise is superior however can only be answered by the individual being asked. For me, it's STAR TREK.
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10:21AM on 07/10/2013
I've never understood that nerdy rivalry between Star Trek/Star Wars, Marvel/DC or even Playstation/Xbox. It's one thing to have different opinions and preference, it's another to be a douche about it.
I've never understood that nerdy rivalry between Star Trek/Star Wars, Marvel/DC or even Playstation/Xbox. It's one thing to have different opinions and preference, it's another to be a douche about it.
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10:01AM on 07/10/2013
Love that bit from Fanboys. That movie doesn't quite get the love it deserves.

A good friend of mine taught me that I could be a fan of both Star Wars and Star Trek, but Star Wars is the one I grew up being much more of a fan of. They are pretty different: Star Wars can be seen as science-fantasy space opera while Star Trek is more like a futuristic Horatio Hornblower-type adventure. But I'm sure fans from across both sides of the galaxy can agree that it's great to see new films being made
Love that bit from Fanboys. That movie doesn't quite get the love it deserves.

A good friend of mine taught me that I could be a fan of both Star Wars and Star Trek, but Star Wars is the one I grew up being much more of a fan of. They are pretty different: Star Wars can be seen as science-fantasy space opera while Star Trek is more like a futuristic Horatio Hornblower-type adventure. But I'm sure fans from across both sides of the galaxy can agree that it's great to see new films being made out of these franchises.
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9:41AM on 07/10/2013
It's good to hear this come from George Lucas. You just have to like the guy a little bit more when he's able to put it all in perspective like that and give Trek its due. JJ Abrams should only be so reverent. At first with the news of him directing the new Star Wars, I was angry and felt backstabbed. Now, after seeing how mediocre Star Trek Into Darkness was, I am legitimately relieved that Abrams will not be coming back to Star Trek. I am also worried for the future of Star Wars, because
It's good to hear this come from George Lucas. You just have to like the guy a little bit more when he's able to put it all in perspective like that and give Trek its due. JJ Abrams should only be so reverent. At first with the news of him directing the new Star Wars, I was angry and felt backstabbed. Now, after seeing how mediocre Star Trek Into Darkness was, I am legitimately relieved that Abrams will not be coming back to Star Trek. I am also worried for the future of Star Wars, because Into Darkness was a watered-down, boring version of Wrath of Khan...will that be the fate of Star Wars? I say fire Abrams from both franchises.
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9:38AM on 07/10/2013
It's good to see this kind of admiration from Lucas. Star Trek was something special in its day. The fan following proves it. Star Wars is my preference, but I see the value in the original Trek series to this day.
It's good to see this kind of admiration from Lucas. Star Trek was something special in its day. The fan following proves it. Star Wars is my preference, but I see the value in the original Trek series to this day.
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8:23AM on 07/10/2013
Well said, George. I love Star Trek, but also like Star Wars, a lot. I just prefer Trek. But I think there is room for both of these stories.

Just like there is room for both Marvel and DC. I prefer Marvel, but I still admit that Batman Begins is one of the best superhero movies of all time.
Well said, George. I love Star Trek, but also like Star Wars, a lot. I just prefer Trek. But I think there is room for both of these stories.

Just like there is room for both Marvel and DC. I prefer Marvel, but I still admit that Batman Begins is one of the best superhero movies of all time.
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8:18AM on 07/10/2013

Who cares?

What this hack has to say? Seriously someone muzzle the SOB. He has nothing to do with the next Star Wars movies (thank God), so who cares what he has to say?
What this hack has to say? Seriously someone muzzle the SOB. He has nothing to do with the next Star Wars movies (thank God), so who cares what he has to say?
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9:13AM on 07/10/2013
Oh, the irony of being a Star Wars fan and calling George Lucas a hack.
Oh, the irony of being a Star Wars fan and calling George Lucas a hack.
10:29AM on 07/10/2013
Yeah Hoylehaw, I don't get it either.
Yeah Hoylehaw, I don't get it either.
3:32PM on 07/10/2013
So the guy who invented Star Wars is a hack now?! [link] And the prequels were Amazing so suck it Trebek!
So the guy who invented Star Wars is a hack now?! [link] And the prequels were Amazing so suck it Trebek!
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