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04.24.2010

An unwarranted sequel to GHOST RIDER has been sputtering along for a while, but it's about to hit the throttle hard. Possibly out of necessity. And without its original star.

Vulture says that Columbia wants -- nay, needs -- to get a sequel into production by November, or it risks losing the rights to the character. You may recall that in the 90s during their financial devastation, Marvel sold off movie rights for various characters -- X-Men, Daredevil, Fantastic Four, Spider-Man -- and as long as their current homes continue to actively utilize the characters under their umbrella, they'll keep the rights.

The sticking point here is that Nicolas Cage may not have room in his schedule by then, since he's got a third NATIONAL TREASURE in the pipe after finishing Patrick Lussier's 3D revenge flick DRIVE ANGRY. Cage has expressed interest in returning as stuntman-turned-fireskulled-spirit-of-vengeance Johnny Blaze, and the studio seemed to want him back (despite recently describing the sequel as "pushing the reset button on the franchise").

The studio supposedly has a draft from "FlashForward" writers Scott Gimple and Seth Hoffman (overseen by producer David Goyer), and is putting together a list of possible directors (dry your eyes -- Mark Steven Johnson won't be back). The question is whether the sequel would be viable without Cage, who is still globally associated with the character (the first movie overcame lousy reviews and a February dump release to make $230 million worldwide).

Extra Tidbit: Cage may turn in some laughable acting (and hair), but the solid work in his filmography far outbalances the occasional WICKER MAN, as far as I'm concerned.
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3:29PM on 04/26/2010

I understand the hate for Daredevil...

although I still want to see Michael Clarke Duncan play the Kingpin again, but why trash Ghost Rider?
Is it the throwaway villains and the watered down Blackheart? Johnny Blaze listening to Karen Carpenter and watching cartoons? Eva Mendez?
Point is, the Director's cut is far superior to the theatrical release... Peter Fonda and Sam Elliot absolutely command the screen anytime they are in it, and at least Nick Cage wanted to do a second movie...in fact, he wanted a hard-R sequel. So I say
although I still want to see Michael Clarke Duncan play the Kingpin again, but why trash Ghost Rider?
Is it the throwaway villains and the watered down Blackheart? Johnny Blaze listening to Karen Carpenter and watching cartoons? Eva Mendez?
Point is, the Director's cut is far superior to the theatrical release... Peter Fonda and Sam Elliot absolutely command the screen anytime they are in it, and at least Nick Cage wanted to do a second movie...in fact, he wanted a hard-R sequel. So I say bring him back if at all possible, and for Marvel to buy up all their properties so they can bring back the guys who made the movies good...or at least watchable in the first place: Sam Raimi and Bryan Singer.
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10:42AM on 04/26/2010
Thumbs up on the tidbit. Those who doubt Cage do so at their own risk.
I love him purely for his quotables and delivery. Which can also be found in his "bad" movies.
"shoot him again, his soul is still dancing"
Thumbs up on the tidbit. Those who doubt Cage do so at their own risk.
I love him purely for his quotables and delivery. Which can also be found in his "bad" movies.
"shoot him again, his soul is still dancing"
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4:05AM on 04/26/2010

Give the property to Marvel Studios

Put this thing out of it's misery already and give it to people who actually has competence.
Put this thing out of it's misery already and give it to people who actually has competence.
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10:30PM on 04/25/2010
it'd be better without him. go for it
it'd be better without him. go for it
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8:31PM on 04/25/2010
Sorry, but Adaptation was the last good movie Cage was in before Kick-Ass came out, and that was all the way back in 2002. With that said, I'd like to see the rights go back to Marvel so that a real director (Mark Steven Johnson now directs rom/coms, where all shitty directors of his caliber need to go)so that an actual good movie can be made. And no Daniel Ketch version either. Ketch was a weak GR, that's why they keep bringing Johnny Blaze back from the dead.
Sorry, but Adaptation was the last good movie Cage was in before Kick-Ass came out, and that was all the way back in 2002. With that said, I'd like to see the rights go back to Marvel so that a real director (Mark Steven Johnson now directs rom/coms, where all shitty directors of his caliber need to go)so that an actual good movie can be made. And no Daniel Ketch version either. Ketch was a weak GR, that's why they keep bringing Johnny Blaze back from the dead.
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1:40PM on 04/25/2010

Just Sell it Back Columbia!......Bums

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1:33PM on 04/25/2010

Just Sell it Back Columbia!......Bums

Tell you what... Have the Columbums just give the fu#k up, Already. Let the rights go back to whom they belong. I WILL watch another Dreadful Ghost rider movie but i will not pay for it. When Marvel get the rights back... Lets just say ive watched every Marvel Productions film 2-3 times in the theater. Im sure most of us have.

Cage, as a matter of fact, keep making those National Treasure movies. The guy makes a Mint with those. Stay the Hell away from Ghost Rider!

Im sorry, Piper but I
Tell you what... Have the Columbums just give the fu#k up, Already. Let the rights go back to whom they belong. I WILL watch another Dreadful Ghost rider movie but i will not pay for it. When Marvel get the rights back... Lets just say ive watched every Marvel Productions film 2-3 times in the theater. Im sure most of us have.

Cage, as a matter of fact, keep making those National Treasure movies. The guy makes a Mint with those. Stay the Hell away from Ghost Rider!

Im sorry, Piper but I loved Punisher: War Zone! It was Dark, action packed, Ruthless, the guy killed EVERYONE, Cold hearted, showed compassion in what he missed in his life;Family, Jigsaw has Alright but Looney Bin was a Sicko! I have brothers like that....Not the eating Spleans s#it but will do anything to Back up each other. Good movie. Good job, Lexi. If you guys havent seen it watch Green Street Hooligans. Lexi Alexander.

Im hoping this project doesnt leave the Draft. I hope Columbums just Give up the Movie Rights. I hope to see a Great Marvel Productions film of another Marvel Knights character. While were at it let remake Daredevil too. Get that Pu$$y Ben away from it. Make Mine Marvel!
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1:13PM on 04/25/2010
The first flick was such a letdown,nothing short of bringing in SCORSESE ,is gonna bring fans back for another serving of CRAP !!
The first flick was such a letdown,nothing short of bringing in SCORSESE ,is gonna bring fans back for another serving of CRAP !!
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1:11PM on 04/25/2010
Reboot, reboot, reboot!
Reboot, reboot, reboot!
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12:44PM on 04/25/2010
I was pretty pissed after the 1st film. I mean, this is such a badass character, and it had so much potential... but we all know how it turned out. No sequel necessary & Cage would be wise to stay away from this turd.
I was pretty pissed after the 1st film. I mean, this is such a badass character, and it had so much potential... but we all know how it turned out. No sequel necessary & Cage would be wise to stay away from this turd.
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10:13AM on 04/25/2010

An UNWANTED sequel to GHOST RIDER has been sputtering along for a while, but it's about to hit the throttle hard. Possibly out of necessity. And without its original star

^Fixed.

First was pure garbage.
^Fixed.

First was pure garbage.
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9:54AM on 04/25/2010
i would love to see a proper Ghost Rider movie. dont let anyone involved in the first near this one, it was horrible not just as an adaptation of the character but as a movie. start fresh with the OTHER ghost rider, dan ketch. he was always cooler than blaze in my opinion anyway. i love nick cage when hes in the right role, but when hes bad hes REALLY bad.
i would love to see a proper Ghost Rider movie. dont let anyone involved in the first near this one, it was horrible not just as an adaptation of the character but as a movie. start fresh with the OTHER ghost rider, dan ketch. he was always cooler than blaze in my opinion anyway. i love nick cage when hes in the right role, but when hes bad hes REALLY bad.
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5:00PM on 04/25/2010
That's perfect. Dan Ketch was basically a "reboot" of the franchise in print, so why not follow suit? I also like the Ketch character better, however, maybe Blaze could have a cameo in it, like Sam Elloit's character did in the first...
That's perfect. Dan Ketch was basically a "reboot" of the franchise in print, so why not follow suit? I also like the Ketch character better, however, maybe Blaze could have a cameo in it, like Sam Elloit's character did in the first...
2:49AM on 04/25/2010
I would have loved to see the franchise head back to its rightful owners, but sadly I doubt it'll happen. Columbia will churn out another lame-ass attempt and will, again, fail miserably. It's sad, because under the right supervision, Ghost Rider could be one badass sonoffabitch.
I would have loved to see the franchise head back to its rightful owners, but sadly I doubt it'll happen. Columbia will churn out another lame-ass attempt and will, again, fail miserably. It's sad, because under the right supervision, Ghost Rider could be one badass sonoffabitch.
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2:05AM on 04/25/2010
Here, here on the tidbit.
Here, here on the tidbit.
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12:50AM on 04/25/2010
I'm convinced that Nicolas Cage either has several identical twin brothers or a small army of clones, all working for him. It's the only way for any person to churn out as many films as this dude does.
I'm convinced that Nicolas Cage either has several identical twin brothers or a small army of clones, all working for him. It's the only way for any person to churn out as many films as this dude does.
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10:56PM on 04/24/2010
i don't see the point of a reboot if they just wanna get cage again.
i don't see the point of a reboot if they just wanna get cage again.
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10:10PM on 04/24/2010

No Bloody Way

It's just a dumb rumour. What would be next? Spidey without Toby? Let's get real.
It's just a dumb rumour. What would be next? Spidey without Toby? Let's get real.
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10:07PM on 04/24/2010

The first one sucked and so does Cage

The only time he's worth a damn is when a good director steers him towards tolerability. I don't even know how they fucked up the first one. Biker with flaming skull for a head fighting demons...the badassery writes itself from there. But hey we still haven't nailed an even easier comic book yet; The Punisher. Anybody other than cage should be an improvement in my book.
The only time he's worth a damn is when a good director steers him towards tolerability. I don't even know how they fucked up the first one. Biker with flaming skull for a head fighting demons...the badassery writes itself from there. But hey we still haven't nailed an even easier comic book yet; The Punisher. Anybody other than cage should be an improvement in my book.
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9:04PM on 04/24/2010
I was really disappointed at the way Blackheart looked in Ghost Rider because he was human. He looked badass in the comics! I think they should forget about it like the did with the Hulk (2003), bounce Nick Cage, and start over.
I was really disappointed at the way Blackheart looked in Ghost Rider because he was human. He looked badass in the comics! I think they should forget about it like the did with the Hulk (2003), bounce Nick Cage, and start over.
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8:16PM on 04/24/2010

Extra Tidbit:

I checked his filmography earlier, the man sucks. For every one gem, he has five bad movies. He has no business acting, period.

Step away from the delusion pills.
I checked his filmography earlier, the man sucks. For every one gem, he has five bad movies. He has no business acting, period.

Step away from the delusion pills.
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11:19PM on 04/24/2010
Captain Negativity strikes again!!!
Captain Negativity strikes again!!!
8:33AM on 04/25/2010
If you turn over one "Adaptation", I say help yourself to a Next and a Bankok Dangerous.
If you turn over one "Adaptation", I say help yourself to a Next and a Bankok Dangerous.
5:44PM on 04/25/2010
Terminal, you do not deserve the stark thumbs down this comment is getting, cage blows as an actor and we all know it, he has made maybe 5 watchable movies and the rest are just poorly acted suck fests
Terminal, you do not deserve the stark thumbs down this comment is getting, cage blows as an actor and we all know it, he has made maybe 5 watchable movies and the rest are just poorly acted suck fests
9:53PM on 04/25/2010
Making friends wherever you go I see. I guess some can't accept the truth.
Making friends wherever you go I see. I guess some can't accept the truth.
7:57PM on 04/24/2010
I hope they make this right--use the 90's comic reboot and cast a younger actor as GR II, Dan Ketch. That era of GR was the shit, and came off better than the 70's Ghost Rider.

If the movie does well enough, Cage can come back to reprise his Johnny Blaze role in a third movie.
I hope they make this right--use the 90's comic reboot and cast a younger actor as GR II, Dan Ketch. That era of GR was the shit, and came off better than the 70's Ghost Rider.

If the movie does well enough, Cage can come back to reprise his Johnny Blaze role in a third movie.
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7:45PM on 04/24/2010

As far as i'm concerned....

I dont care if Nic Cage returns or not, as long as Eva Mendes STAYS COMPLETELY AWAY from the franchise. That woman brings down any movie she's in. As long as she's gone, and they spend more money on the effects so they'll look better, the movie will be okay.

And Youre right, Nic Cage is a pretty good actor, when he has some decent material. (Leaving Las Vegas, Face/Off, Weather Man, Lord of War, Kick-Ass.) So we must not forget that just because he brings out some stinkers. I have faith if
I dont care if Nic Cage returns or not, as long as Eva Mendes STAYS COMPLETELY AWAY from the franchise. That woman brings down any movie she's in. As long as she's gone, and they spend more money on the effects so they'll look better, the movie will be okay.

And Youre right, Nic Cage is a pretty good actor, when he has some decent material. (Leaving Las Vegas, Face/Off, Weather Man, Lord of War, Kick-Ass.) So we must not forget that just because he brings out some stinkers. I have faith if he returns, he'll be okay...as long as he's not pining over some dumb woman whose hot and acts like she doesnt know it or whatever. This is about GHOST RIDER...it should be like the darkest movie ever...not that BS that came out before.
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7:45PM on 04/24/2010

bleh

No thanks.
No thanks.
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6:52PM on 04/24/2010
As a long time fan of Ghost Rider I hope to god that Cage is unable to return he was so horribly miscast in the first place. He made on of my favorite comic characters into a slow retard.
As a long time fan of Ghost Rider I hope to god that Cage is unable to return he was so horribly miscast in the first place. He made on of my favorite comic characters into a slow retard.
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6:42PM on 04/24/2010

Cage or Boot

I like Ghost Rider, I know I shouldn't really, it's lame on so many levels, but it still entertains me even after seeing its half a dozen times.

My take is if it's not Cage, re-boot it. i'm use to Cage as the Rider even though it's only been for one film, he is the part for me. If they can't get him back, if they MUST do another, they hsould just reboot it but it would have to be one MOFO of a movie to do any good.
I like Ghost Rider, I know I shouldn't really, it's lame on so many levels, but it still entertains me even after seeing its half a dozen times.

My take is if it's not Cage, re-boot it. i'm use to Cage as the Rider even though it's only been for one film, he is the part for me. If they can't get him back, if they MUST do another, they hsould just reboot it but it would have to be one MOFO of a movie to do any good.
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6:02PM on 04/24/2010
I really hope they fail to get this in production and the rights revert back to Marvel. Disney money= more movies in production
I really hope they fail to get this in production and the rights revert back to Marvel. Disney money= more movies in production
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5:46PM on 04/24/2010

RE-BOOT PLEASE

G R is my favorite character conceptually and a movie with the tone of TV's SUPERNATURAL would be awesome. I vote for Josh Holloway (SAWYER from LOST) to play Johnny Blaze he's got that southern charm a tragic soul and a sarcastic sense of humor.
G R is my favorite character conceptually and a movie with the tone of TV's SUPERNATURAL would be awesome. I vote for Josh Holloway (SAWYER from LOST) to play Johnny Blaze he's got that southern charm a tragic soul and a sarcastic sense of humor.
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5:43PM on 04/24/2010
From the writers of LOST would have been much more appealing. And yes, for all the paycheck films he does, I still love him when he delivers...
From the writers of LOST would have been much more appealing. And yes, for all the paycheck films he does, I still love him when he delivers...
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5:18PM on 04/24/2010
I hope Sony lose the rights of Ghost Rider.
I hope Sony lose the rights of Ghost Rider.
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5:07PM on 04/24/2010
Screw a sequel, this is one of the few comic book films that actually needs to be "rebooted", it has a lot of potential that was completely wasted on the Cage starring film.
Screw a sequel, this is one of the few comic book films that actually needs to be "rebooted", it has a lot of potential that was completely wasted on the Cage starring film.
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5:02PM on 04/24/2010
From the writers of Flash Forward? Now we know it's going to be sh*t.
From the writers of Flash Forward? Now we know it's going to be sh*t.
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3:44PM on 04/24/2010

Cage

I agree with the extra tidbit! For every "bad" performance or movie Cage does ie/ wicker man, bringing out the dead, ghost rider, you have to admit a)there's a good one to balance it out ie/ Adaptation, the Weather man, Leaving Las Vegas, Raising Arizona and ...cough...the Rock and b) the guy is ALWAYS entertaining to watch whether you agree with his acting choices or not.
I agree with the extra tidbit! For every "bad" performance or movie Cage does ie/ wicker man, bringing out the dead, ghost rider, you have to admit a)there's a good one to balance it out ie/ Adaptation, the Weather man, Leaving Las Vegas, Raising Arizona and ...cough...the Rock and b) the guy is ALWAYS entertaining to watch whether you agree with his acting choices or not.
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3:18PM on 04/24/2010
i never really liked cage as ghost rider and the film itself was a dissapointmen, i'd rather see a complete reboot with a better lead star and a better looking ghost rider, that skull head in the original just lookedf way too cheesey.
i never really liked cage as ghost rider and the film itself was a dissapointmen, i'd rather see a complete reboot with a better lead star and a better looking ghost rider, that skull head in the original just lookedf way too cheesey.
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3:16PM on 04/24/2010

Extra Tidbit:

you officially have no business writing for a movie site.

Cage had one good movie, in my opinion...Raising Arizona.

The rest were the drizzling shizz
you officially have no business writing for a movie site.

Cage had one good movie, in my opinion...Raising Arizona.

The rest were the drizzling shizz
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2:31PM on 04/24/2010

Oh please, oh please, oh please...

please let this one revert back to Marvel.
please let this one revert back to Marvel.
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2:03PM on 04/24/2010
Don't you love it when you hear studios want to throw a movie together only because they don't want to lose the rights to it? Yeah, me neither. I wouldn't expect much from a sequel, with or without Cage. This one needs a Reboot more tha just about any other Marvel property, including spiderman and daredevil.
Don't you love it when you hear studios want to throw a movie together only because they don't want to lose the rights to it? Yeah, me neither. I wouldn't expect much from a sequel, with or without Cage. This one needs a Reboot more tha just about any other Marvel property, including spiderman and daredevil.
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1:36PM on 04/24/2010
I'm no expert on the comics, but I'm pretty sure there's another character who becomes the Ghost Rider besides Johnny Blaze. So they should do a movie involving him instead of just recasting, and keep Nicolas Cage on the back burner for the next Ghost Rider movie if his schedule permits it next time. I loved Ghost Rider, and mostly because Nicolas Cage is hilarious.
I'm no expert on the comics, but I'm pretty sure there's another character who becomes the Ghost Rider besides Johnny Blaze. So they should do a movie involving him instead of just recasting, and keep Nicolas Cage on the back burner for the next Ghost Rider movie if his schedule permits it next time. I loved Ghost Rider, and mostly because Nicolas Cage is hilarious.
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5:58PM on 04/24/2010
Daniel Ketch was the second G R in the 90's but nobody liked him so they brought BLAZE back.
Daniel Ketch was the second G R in the 90's but nobody liked him so they brought BLAZE back.
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1:07PM on 04/24/2010
How about Billy Burke as Ghost Rider? I know all he's in lateley is the Twilight movies but something tells me he could be a badass ghostrider.
How about Billy Burke as Ghost Rider? I know all he's in lateley is the Twilight movies but something tells me he could be a badass ghostrider.
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1:02PM on 04/24/2010
Nicolas Cage better stay far away from this. If I have to suffer through another crappy Ghost Rider flick please let it be without this guy.
Nicolas Cage better stay far away from this. If I have to suffer through another crappy Ghost Rider flick please let it be without this guy.
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