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Guess who is not a fan of Peter Jackson's Middle-Earth movies? The Tolkien family

Jan. 9, 2013by: Alex Maidy

No one has done more to promote the works of J.R.R. Tolkien than Peter Jackson. Despite their popularity for the decades they were in existence, it was not until THE LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy was released that the tales of Middle Earth truly skyrocketed to fame. It was assumed by the widespread love of the franchise and the success of the films that more liked them than disliked. But, until now, we never knew if the family of author JRR Tolkien approved.

The answer is, they do not approve.

ComicBookMovie shared an excerpt from an interview with Christopher Tolkien who continued to edit and publish his father's writings well after his death. Take a look at what he had to say:

"I could write a book on the idiotic requests I have received," sighs Christopher Tolkien. He is trying to protect the literary work from the three-ring circus that has developed around it. In general, the Tolkien Estate refuses almost all requests. "Normally, the executors of the estate want to promote a work as much as they can," notes Adam Tolkien, the son of Christopher and Baillie. "But we are just the opposite. We want to put the spotlight on that which is not Lord of the Rings."

Invited to meet Peter Jackson, the Tolkien family preferred not to. Why? "They eviscerated the book by making it an action movie for young people aged 15 to 25," Christopher says regretfully. "And it seems that The Hobbit will be the same kind of film."

This divorce has been systematically driven by the logic of Hollywood. "Tolkien has become a monster, devoured by his own popularity and absorbed into the absurdity of our time," Christopher Tolkien observes sadly. "The chasm between the beauty and seriousness of the work, and what it has become, has overwhelmed me. The commercialization has reduced the aesthetic and philosophical impact of the creation to nothing. There is only one solution for me: to turn my head away."

Wow. Granted, THE LORD OF THE RINGS and THE HOBBIT films are not 100% faithful to the texts, but Peter Jackson and his crew have done a phenomenal job of translating (literally) what Tolkien wrote for a cinematic audience. I think that Christopher is a bit rough here, but I can understand his perspective. Yes, there is a great deal of action in the movies, but they certainly are not PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN or TRANSFORMERS. THE HOBBIT: AN UNEXPECTED JOURNEY is definitely lighter than THE LORD OF THE RINGS, but it is still a film for fans of the books. Peter Jackson respects Tolkien more than anything. The movies are hardly an evisceration. But, everyone is a critic.

Do you agree with Tolkien? Read the full interview over at WorldCrunch.

UPDATE: Many comments in the talkbacks indicate Tolkien should be happy with the money they made off of the Peter Jackson films. The source of this quote indicates that JRR Tolkien sold the rights to THE HOBBIT and THE LORD OF THE RINGS in 1969 to United Artists for 100,000. So, the Tolkien family has made nothing off of the movies, which could also account for his bitterness.

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11:31AM on 01/12/2013
Wow ... so I guess, on principle, the Tolkien family refused the massive book sale profits as a result of the movies? Turned their nose up at all those new readers the movies created? I bought all three books for the first time after The Fellowship was released. He can reimburse me any time.
Wow ... so I guess, on principle, the Tolkien family refused the massive book sale profits as a result of the movies? Turned their nose up at all those new readers the movies created? I bought all three books for the first time after The Fellowship was released. He can reimburse me any time.
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9:03AM on 01/11/2013

Not new

If it is a new comment then it is news but it is not new in the sense that Christopher Tolkien made the same remarks when tLotR came out. Frankly, I think Christopher regards his father's writing as literature but his father, if he were still alive might not feel the same way: JRRT likened his writing to a tree that constantly grew new leaves. I don't think he would have disapproved of a six movie treatment of the Hobbit and tLotR. I rather think instead he would be sitting down with Jackson
If it is a new comment then it is news but it is not new in the sense that Christopher Tolkien made the same remarks when tLotR came out. Frankly, I think Christopher regards his father's writing as literature but his father, if he were still alive might not feel the same way: JRRT likened his writing to a tree that constantly grew new leaves. I don't think he would have disapproved of a six movie treatment of the Hobbit and tLotR. I rather think instead he would be sitting down with Jackson and talking with him about what the next trilogy would be.
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8:18PM on 01/10/2013
Christopher Tolkien sounds like Alan Moore's long lost brother. They should get together and complain sometime. Probably really hit it off.
Christopher Tolkien sounds like Alan Moore's long lost brother. They should get together and complain sometime. Probably really hit it off.
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6:58PM on 01/10/2013
"So, the Tolkien family has made nothing off of the movies, which could also account for his bitterness."
Pretty much, dude just sounds mad at himself.
"So, the Tolkien family has made nothing off of the movies, which could also account for his bitterness."
Pretty much, dude just sounds mad at himself.
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3:37PM on 01/10/2013

ummm....

since when are these movies "action" movies? yes there are two large battle sequences that take up about 2 to 2 1/2 hours of so of film between TT and ROTK, but even rounding up to 3 hours ...that is still 6 or so hours of film and story NOT action. It's honestly amazing that Jackson was not only able to remain as faithful as he was, but that they let him do all 3 films and all being over 3 hours long. Trilogies weren't getting green lit by the bucketful back then. Sounds like the family needs
since when are these movies "action" movies? yes there are two large battle sequences that take up about 2 to 2 1/2 hours of so of film between TT and ROTK, but even rounding up to 3 hours ...that is still 6 or so hours of film and story NOT action. It's honestly amazing that Jackson was not only able to remain as faithful as he was, but that they let him do all 3 films and all being over 3 hours long. Trilogies weren't getting green lit by the bucketful back then. Sounds like the family needs to watch the extended version bonus features where jackson and the writers touch on the changes they made and things left out and the reasoning for doing so in context to the film medium.
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2:46PM on 01/10/2013

What do they expect?

They sold the rights to Hollywood - they're insanely lucky Peter Jackson did the translation to film rather than someone else. I wonder what they think of the cartoon versions from the 70's...
They sold the rights to Hollywood - they're insanely lucky Peter Jackson did the translation to film rather than someone else. I wonder what they think of the cartoon versions from the 70's...
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2:51PM on 01/10/2013
Cartoon Version of LOTRs, the first one, was very entertaining. I really enjoyed it. The second one however was awful. That was the made for tv one...Just terrible. Back then the original animated LOTRs cost a good amount to make so they didn't think they could make anymore when the movie didn't do as well as they exspected. Too bad, I'd still be into seeing a Lord of the Rings animated feature.
Cartoon Version of LOTRs, the first one, was very entertaining. I really enjoyed it. The second one however was awful. That was the made for tv one...Just terrible. Back then the original animated LOTRs cost a good amount to make so they didn't think they could make anymore when the movie didn't do as well as they exspected. Too bad, I'd still be into seeing a Lord of the Rings animated feature.
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2:45PM on 01/10/2013

OMG!!

That is so Disheartening to hear that he sold the rights at such a low low cost and the movies are generating Billions world-wide along with the licensing and such....Bad business decisions were common practice regarding film rights of media back then, not so sure about now but it does seem that most are a little more business savvy. Not many stories of a movie studio or record label screwing up and the artist winding up with the rights outright, except that little movie called Star Wars but
That is so Disheartening to hear that he sold the rights at such a low low cost and the movies are generating Billions world-wide along with the licensing and such....Bad business decisions were common practice regarding film rights of media back then, not so sure about now but it does seem that most are a little more business savvy. Not many stories of a movie studio or record label screwing up and the artist winding up with the rights outright, except that little movie called Star Wars but I'm sure they made sure that would never happen again. I bet the Tolkien family are doing much better than your average joe, in fact there probably down right rich even without the movie rights. I just wonder if the son has any rights to the characters in any fashion with new book material.
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10:37AM on 01/10/2013
It's not that I don't like Jackson's LOTR movies. And granted, I have yet to see the extended cuts of any of them. But as the series went on, they became more and more rushed. I love the Two Towers seige, but it went on so long that the encounter with Shelob (one of the most vivid action sequences from the book) became more like an afterthought in Return of the King. Return of the King annoyed me the most because they had to pack so much into the movie that there was barely any time not devoted
It's not that I don't like Jackson's LOTR movies. And granted, I have yet to see the extended cuts of any of them. But as the series went on, they became more and more rushed. I love the Two Towers seige, but it went on so long that the encounter with Shelob (one of the most vivid action sequences from the book) became more like an afterthought in Return of the King. Return of the King annoyed me the most because they had to pack so much into the movie that there was barely any time not devoted to extended battle sequences. Especially when they go to Black Gate, completely unphased by the long battle that has just taken place. I'm not even really upset with that except ROTK made a clean sweep at the Oscars, and it is by far my least favorite of the movies.

I know a lot of people adore these films. I'm glad they were made, and Jackson did probably the best that could be hoped for in adapting them. Jackson did revitalize some interest in Tolkien as an author (I probably wouldn't have read them otherwise, though I read The Hobbit long before).
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10:25AM on 01/10/2013

So...

So go write your own fantasy saga and stop living off JRR. I will never understand why this family has to basically shit on these movies. Until the movies were announced, i hadn't even thought about taking another stab at the books in twenty years. Now I have read them 4 times and enjoy the differences between the book and movies. Christopher Tolkien and his family sound like a bunch of silver-spooned leeches who just cry to sound relevant.
So go write your own fantasy saga and stop living off JRR. I will never understand why this family has to basically shit on these movies. Until the movies were announced, i hadn't even thought about taking another stab at the books in twenty years. Now I have read them 4 times and enjoy the differences between the book and movies. Christopher Tolkien and his family sound like a bunch of silver-spooned leeches who just cry to sound relevant.
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7:24AM on 01/10/2013
To be honest, the Tolkien family seem like a bunch of douche bags.
To be honest, the Tolkien family seem like a bunch of douche bags.
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6:56AM on 01/10/2013

Stuck up British old farts

I'm a Brit, so I can say this. LOTR and the Hobbit films are a celebration of J.R.R. Tolkien work, they are done with pride and passion by Jackson's crew. It brings Tolkien's work to a wider audience that may have never wanted to read his books, but these new admirers of these epic movies may just now pick up a copy of J.R.R. Tolikiens books. Jebus! would they rather that a new generation of kids never know about LOTR and the hobbit?
I'm a Brit, so I can say this. LOTR and the Hobbit films are a celebration of J.R.R. Tolkien work, they are done with pride and passion by Jackson's crew. It brings Tolkien's work to a wider audience that may have never wanted to read his books, but these new admirers of these epic movies may just now pick up a copy of J.R.R. Tolikiens books. Jebus! would they rather that a new generation of kids never know about LOTR and the hobbit?
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4:57AM on 01/10/2013

screw Christopher Tolkien

those movies are good
those movies are good
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11:29PM on 01/09/2013
Well, you can't please everybody. The books are brilliant works of art, and as I see it, so are the movies.
Well, you can't please everybody. The books are brilliant works of art, and as I see it, so are the movies.
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11:09PM on 01/09/2013

Basically

"Only I should be allowed to make money off of my dad's work"
"Only I should be allowed to make money off of my dad's work"
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10:10PM on 01/09/2013
Chris, write your own original sprawling fantasy series sell the rights cheap like a total dumbass and then you can bitch about what ever you want!
Chris, write your own original sprawling fantasy series sell the rights cheap like a total dumbass and then you can bitch about what ever you want!
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9:52PM on 01/09/2013
Well if I wasn't making money off of movies that are an improvement over my daddy's books, I might be pretty bitter too.
Well if I wasn't making money off of movies that are an improvement over my daddy's books, I might be pretty bitter too.
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8:03PM on 01/09/2013

DEAR TOLKIEN FAMILY

I certainly can understand that there is bitterness when the subject of the cinematic adaptations of JRR's books comes up. True, they are not true adaptations. In fact, the embellishments taken by Jackson in order to produce a thick literary work such as this are at the least faithful to the characters and essence of the books, at least from my understanding from reading all the books. This, in fact, brings me to my point. It is my belief that without the movies, millions of people may not
I certainly can understand that there is bitterness when the subject of the cinematic adaptations of JRR's books comes up. True, they are not true adaptations. In fact, the embellishments taken by Jackson in order to produce a thick literary work such as this are at the least faithful to the characters and essence of the books, at least from my understanding from reading all the books. This, in fact, brings me to my point. It is my belief that without the movies, millions of people may not have been exposed to the literary work. With that in mind, it is hard to be sympathetic to the Tolkien opinion of the movies since millions of copies of said books have been sold and significant publication royalties realized by the Tolkien estate. So, when you speak ill of these movies, please keep that in mind as you enjoy the fruits of JRR and Mr. Jackson's work.. JRR's work is reaching and enjoyed by millions more than even he could have imagined. Not very cricket if you ask me.
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7:59PM on 01/09/2013
Big f'ing deal. So the movies aren't entirely accurate. They certainly aren't a travesty. I suppose it doesn't matter that the films introduced a new generation to a series of books they otherwise wouldn't have read. The Tolkeins are disconnected from the times and need to get with the new age. Do they really think the new generation of children are going to go seek out LotR? Wouldn't count on it. They should feel lucky that the movies were made and the LotR is being kept relevant by such
Big f'ing deal. So the movies aren't entirely accurate. They certainly aren't a travesty. I suppose it doesn't matter that the films introduced a new generation to a series of books they otherwise wouldn't have read. The Tolkeins are disconnected from the times and need to get with the new age. Do they really think the new generation of children are going to go seek out LotR? Wouldn't count on it. They should feel lucky that the movies were made and the LotR is being kept relevant by such things as films and video games. Otherwise, chances are, the current generation wouldn't give a damn.
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7:53PM on 01/09/2013
Once Christopher Tolkien kicks the bucket, the rest of the family, I believe, will be more than happy to accept a big fat check from Warner Bros. for the rights to the remaining collective works of J.R.R. Tolkien.

Has Christopher actually even seen the movies? Or is just like Spike Lee and bitching about shit he knows nothing about?
Once Christopher Tolkien kicks the bucket, the rest of the family, I believe, will be more than happy to accept a big fat check from Warner Bros. for the rights to the remaining collective works of J.R.R. Tolkien.

Has Christopher actually even seen the movies? Or is just like Spike Lee and bitching about shit he knows nothing about?
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7:31PM on 01/09/2013
This is actually a new quote, but old news. They announced their displeasure for the movies back in 2001 after Fellowship was released.
This is actually a new quote, but old news. They announced their displeasure for the movies back in 2001 after Fellowship was released.
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7:27PM on 01/09/2013

Ugh

You want the book, Christopher, then read the fucking book. There's nothing as inane as criticising a film for not being "faithful" to something else. Why should it be? It's a separate entity in an entirely separate medium. I despair when I see otherwise intelligent people taking such a lowbrow approach to film-criticism.
You want the book, Christopher, then read the fucking book. There's nothing as inane as criticising a film for not being "faithful" to something else. Why should it be? It's a separate entity in an entirely separate medium. I despair when I see otherwise intelligent people taking such a lowbrow approach to film-criticism.
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6:13PM on 01/09/2013

Disappointing

Christopher Tolkien is becoming more and more of a distanced recluse since he's already stated that he won't be giving over the rights of The Silmarillion or any other Tolkien text for future film adaptations. What that means is that Jackson had to be insane careful in what he could and could not use in the added parts of The Hobbit, otherwise they would've sued the studios and probably gotten the movie condemned. On one hand I can respect his privacy and his desire to keep his father's work
Christopher Tolkien is becoming more and more of a distanced recluse since he's already stated that he won't be giving over the rights of The Silmarillion or any other Tolkien text for future film adaptations. What that means is that Jackson had to be insane careful in what he could and could not use in the added parts of The Hobbit, otherwise they would've sued the studios and probably gotten the movie condemned. On one hand I can respect his privacy and his desire to keep his father's work as a product of another time and place even though I completely disagree with it, but on the other I fucking hate everything about his current mind-set. Middle-Earth has taken on a life of it's own and like other great pieces of literature and movie franchises (Star Wars, Harry Potter, etc.) it is now a part of pop-cultural and somewhat belongs to the fans. For him to rob them of any future works and cling to the fibers of his stories to remain locked up in the Tolkien Estate somewhere just makes him come off as an egotistical control-freak. Couple that with the numerous quotes he's had about his history, his hate of being in his father's shadow and wanting nothing to do with him (yet he writes a book from his father's work? Fuck off) and you get this dry, negative stigma all over his outside presence. Jackson, Weta, New Line and Warner Brothers have already shown that they can and will handle the property with the utmost care and respect it requires, so I don't understand his decision-making process or what is going on in his mind. It's a shame that it's been such a struggle for the filmmakers to touch his work and that he's been so "disappointed" with how they've handled the film transition.. and it's all just kind of shocking too. This entire situation is just sad, really.
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7:33PM on 01/09/2013
Just another example of how backwards this whole business of having "estates" is. You get braindead mediocrities strangling the work of their genius relatives, leeching off the popularity and reaping the rewards. The Brecht estate have been suffocating Bertold's work for decades, kneecapping interesting interpretations time and time again. What we have with Tolkien is a unique opportunity to adapt his extensive literary world into the film medium. But of course, the surviving family dilettantes
Just another example of how backwards this whole business of having "estates" is. You get braindead mediocrities strangling the work of their genius relatives, leeching off the popularity and reaping the rewards. The Brecht estate have been suffocating Bertold's work for decades, kneecapping interesting interpretations time and time again. What we have with Tolkien is a unique opportunity to adapt his extensive literary world into the film medium. But of course, the surviving family dilettantes refuse to let this happen. Tragic.

I say chuck it into the public domain when the artist dies. Nobody else should own art, it's for all of us.
5:58PM on 01/09/2013
Sorry but if it wasn't for Jackson and Co's Lotr films then the Tolkien foundation wouldn't have gotten a cent from me. I'm not a big reader ( too lazy) but after seeing Fellowship I went straight out a bought the books......Twice and the Hobbit too. C. Tolkien and family need to stop riding on the coat tails of a great man. The books still exist and always will. People will still read them, some of them twice or more a year.
Sorry but if it wasn't for Jackson and Co's Lotr films then the Tolkien foundation wouldn't have gotten a cent from me. I'm not a big reader ( too lazy) but after seeing Fellowship I went straight out a bought the books......Twice and the Hobbit too. C. Tolkien and family need to stop riding on the coat tails of a great man. The books still exist and always will. People will still read them, some of them twice or more a year.
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5:58PM on 01/09/2013
Tolkien's a twat, talk about biting the hand that feeds you and feeds you well.
Tolkien's a twat, talk about biting the hand that feeds you and feeds you well.
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5:55PM on 01/09/2013

wow.

Almost makes me want to burn the books I have that the ungrateful son had edited and finished. D-ouche.
Almost makes me want to burn the books I have that the ungrateful son had edited and finished. D-ouche.
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5:34PM on 01/09/2013

This is the smallest harp on the planet playing for this dude

My heart goes out to to the estate and their heartbreaking dilema, I've come up with a solution for them as well: send the money bags you recieve widespread from Jackson's films, merchandise, etc to me instead, that way when they take the high horse they won't come off as a god damn hypocrites.
My heart goes out to to the estate and their heartbreaking dilema, I've come up with a solution for them as well: send the money bags you recieve widespread from Jackson's films, merchandise, etc to me instead, that way when they take the high horse they won't come off as a god damn hypocrites.
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4:54PM on 01/09/2013

Agreed with SauronsBANE

I don't mind the movies but it is true that they don't really capture the feeling or subtleties of the book (barring maybe FOTR). The films are good and do portray the events that occur (mostly accurately), but it's just not the same. Perhaps the Tolkiens are just tired of movie goers who think they "know" the LOTR universe through the movies alone?
I don't mind the movies but it is true that they don't really capture the feeling or subtleties of the book (barring maybe FOTR). The films are good and do portray the events that occur (mostly accurately), but it's just not the same. Perhaps the Tolkiens are just tired of movie goers who think they "know" the LOTR universe through the movies alone?
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4:40PM on 01/09/2013

Ass

No, the films aren't 100%, down to the last comma accurate to the novels. But they are pretty goddamn faithful. Book purists annoy me to no end. I don't think one single decision that Jackson and Co. made while making these films was made in haste or an after thought. Their love for the material is so obviously apparent I think Mr. Sour Ass needs to put a little perspective on the situation. Does he need to agree and like everything they've done? No of course not, but to act this way is
No, the films aren't 100%, down to the last comma accurate to the novels. But they are pretty goddamn faithful. Book purists annoy me to no end. I don't think one single decision that Jackson and Co. made while making these films was made in haste or an after thought. Their love for the material is so obviously apparent I think Mr. Sour Ass needs to put a little perspective on the situation. Does he need to agree and like everything they've done? No of course not, but to act this way is childish and mean. Actions films for little boys...whatever.
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4:32PM on 01/09/2013

He's not COMPLETELY wrong...

I don't agree with all the comments saying he's jealous or bitter or that he should shut up since he's making a bunch of money off the movies. If anyone actually took the time to read the FULL ARTICLE that the excerpts are from, you'd see that's way off base. Yes he went too far, because by no means is LOTR simply a mindless action flick. Not even close. BUT it's true that Jackson wasn't very faithful to the books, the FOTR excluded. IMO that was the strongest of the trilogy, and unsurprisingly
I don't agree with all the comments saying he's jealous or bitter or that he should shut up since he's making a bunch of money off the movies. If anyone actually took the time to read the FULL ARTICLE that the excerpts are from, you'd see that's way off base. Yes he went too far, because by no means is LOTR simply a mindless action flick. Not even close. BUT it's true that Jackson wasn't very faithful to the books, the FOTR excluded. IMO that was the strongest of the trilogy, and unsurprisingly it was the closest to the book. The rest...not so much. Although I did enjoy them thoroughly. But they're flawed when compared to the books. If Christopher Tolkien was only talking about The Hobbit, then I'd 100% agree with him...that movie doesn't do the book any justice at all. But come on, if any of us were in his situation, I bet we'd be feeling the same way. Also, if you read the article, you'd see that these are the first public comments, of any sort, that he's made in DECADES. He's obviously not seeking attention or any of that stuff. He's just speaking his mind, and I respect that.
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4:28PM on 01/09/2013

All due respect...

As "action-packed" as those films were, they introduced those not aware of the books to his father's novels, with many choosing the novels over the movies, despite watching them first. Millions of those books have been sold around the world. In the last 10 years or so, it's been because of Jackson's movies. He did the Tolkien estate a huge favor and this guy is either pissed he didn't get a slice of that pie for sticking his foot in his mouth or he really is a pretentious douchebag.

This
As "action-packed" as those films were, they introduced those not aware of the books to his father's novels, with many choosing the novels over the movies, despite watching them first. Millions of those books have been sold around the world. In the last 10 years or so, it's been because of Jackson's movies. He did the Tolkien estate a huge favor and this guy is either pissed he didn't get a slice of that pie for sticking his foot in his mouth or he really is a pretentious douchebag.

This guy and Alan Moore would get along famously, though.
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5:22PM on 01/09/2013
Alan Moore got fucked over and over by publishers and producers. He's not complaining that the movie adaptation deviates from the source. He doesn't care about that. He knows a two hour movie is different than a 12 issue comic. What he doesn't like is DC for screwing him out of his Watchmen property, he doesn't like Fox for settling a court case which made him look like a copycat and he doesn't like it when producers claim he endorses their movie when he doesn't.
Alan Moore got fucked over and over by publishers and producers. He's not complaining that the movie adaptation deviates from the source. He doesn't care about that. He knows a two hour movie is different than a 12 issue comic. What he doesn't like is DC for screwing him out of his Watchmen property, he doesn't like Fox for settling a court case which made him look like a copycat and he doesn't like it when producers claim he endorses their movie when he doesn't.
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4:07PM on 01/09/2013

Its Jealousy, nothing more.

C. Tolkien is merely jealous that someone could do what he was never able to do, bring his fathers work to the masses. He's been trying to keep up his dad's work for years now with little to show for it. Then Jackson comes along and successfully adapts it for cinema and makes it big. C. Tolkien is just bitter that he had little more to do with the success then saying "ok"

First off LotR is not some literary master piece, its a great story that has its problems like any other. Tolkien was
C. Tolkien is merely jealous that someone could do what he was never able to do, bring his fathers work to the masses. He's been trying to keep up his dad's work for years now with little to show for it. Then Jackson comes along and successfully adapts it for cinema and makes it big. C. Tolkien is just bitter that he had little more to do with the success then saying "ok"

First off LotR is not some literary master piece, its a great story that has its problems like any other. Tolkien was not a writer, he was a language teacher, and as such he was not aware of how to do things like how structure a story properly. This makes the book difficult to read at times cause the pacing is horrible. The Books are a bit all over the place and what the movies do is bring the story into focus around the main conflict which is destroying the ring and the ensuing war if they can't. The other thing was that the books were only ever a part of the overall lore of Middle Earth that Tolkien created. There were too many things that never got any explanation (out side of the appedicies) and you can not get away with that kind of shit in a movie in this day and age.

I love Lord of the Rings (the hobbit is a book aimed at 12 year olds and not my cup of tea) but i can also see it for what it really is. A good story that helped some ppl fall in love with Fantasy.
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4:05PM on 01/09/2013
Granted The Hobbit for my money is the least like its literary counterpart in Jackson's series, the success of the franchise has created a new legion of fans who are only now interested in the books... it's pretty nasty to publicly bash him for that.
Granted The Hobbit for my money is the least like its literary counterpart in Jackson's series, the success of the franchise has created a new legion of fans who are only now interested in the books... it's pretty nasty to publicly bash him for that.
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4:02PM on 01/09/2013
I love it. So they get to collect royalties and then stab Jackson in the back to make themselves look good in front of the Tolkien purists. There truly is no bottom for people.
I love it. So they get to collect royalties and then stab Jackson in the back to make themselves look good in front of the Tolkien purists. There truly is no bottom for people.
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3:54PM on 01/09/2013

What a fuckin tool...

An action movie ? LMFAO Lord of the rings is an action film. Since when ? It has forms of action in it yes but its by far from an action film. LOL. Its a fantasy film. And peter jackson took some of the scenes straight from the book so thats saying that JRR made an action book. W/e.
An action movie ? LMFAO Lord of the rings is an action film. Since when ? It has forms of action in it yes but its by far from an action film. LOL. Its a fantasy film. And peter jackson took some of the scenes straight from the book so thats saying that JRR made an action book. W/e.
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3:51PM on 01/09/2013

Never underestimate English snobbery

1) no they are not action films
2) all subtext and philosophical points were not just maintained but improved upon.
3) why doesn't anyone else in his family try writing something decent instead of coasting on a dead relative's success?
1) no they are not action films
2) all subtext and philosophical points were not just maintained but improved upon.
3) why doesn't anyone else in his family try writing something decent instead of coasting on a dead relative's success?
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3:40PM on 01/09/2013
Isn't this the same thing as that kid from TWO AND A HALF MEN bitching about how his show blows, yet collecting $$$ paychecks? I wonder how much wealthier this dude has become because of Peter Jackson, and now he's bashing him publicly? Pretty uncool.
Isn't this the same thing as that kid from TWO AND A HALF MEN bitching about how his show blows, yet collecting $$$ paychecks? I wonder how much wealthier this dude has become because of Peter Jackson, and now he's bashing him publicly? Pretty uncool.
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5:37PM on 01/09/2013
There's more to life than money....
There's more to life than money....
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3:38PM on 01/09/2013

lmao

I remember hearing this years ago about their reaction to the LOTR movies, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised by their reaction to The Hobbit movies (though I wonder if they even actually saw it...) but still, this is just too funny... I bet literally 99% of people who saw the LOTR films either liked or loved them... the Tolkien family seems to be the only ones who view them as a 'disgrace' and all this b.s. whatever though, to each their own... they can have their own opinion, slouching and
I remember hearing this years ago about their reaction to the LOTR movies, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised by their reaction to The Hobbit movies (though I wonder if they even actually saw it...) but still, this is just too funny... I bet literally 99% of people who saw the LOTR films either liked or loved them... the Tolkien family seems to be the only ones who view them as a 'disgrace' and all this b.s. whatever though, to each their own... they can have their own opinion, slouching and pouting in the corner alone -- while damn near everyone else celebrates these films worldwide.

Honestly the only thing that bugs me about this is The Silmarillion which I think they still have the rights to, and likely will not license it to Jackson and co after all this... shame.
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3:36PM on 01/09/2013

Wow

I don't know what he was expecting. I mean they're pretty damned faithful - especially the extended cuts.
I don't know what he was expecting. I mean they're pretty damned faithful - especially the extended cuts.
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3:32PM on 01/09/2013
Well you can go fuck yourself. Respectfully.
Well you can go fuck yourself. Respectfully.
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