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Henry Cavill does not foresee Justice League happening in the very near future

Jun. 25, 2013by:

There has been a lot of MAN OF STEEL talk lately about whether or not the sequel is coming in 2014 or 2015 or if the success of the movie means JUSTICE LEAGUE is back on the front burner. Everything means something and nothing at the same time. But, regardless of whether or not we are getting more DC sooner rather than later, those actually involved in the films have their own take.

Superman himself, Henry Cavill, is an outspoken fan of comics and nerd culture. Frankly, a man that good looking has no right being a nerd because those of us who are average looking don't need the competition. But, having someone who cares about the culture and fanbase surrounding their film makes me feel better about the direction things are going.

Cavill was asked about all of the rumors of the fast-tracked MAN OF STEEL 2 by ABC News reporter Peter Travers and this was his answer.

“Justice League could be great if done correctly. It’s a very tough one to do because the DC Comics heroes are all godlike in their power so in the real-world setting we’re telling our story in it’s going to be tough to achieve that and it has to be done very delicately and with a lot of thought. So it won’t be right away, certainly not, or I hope it’s not anyway. It may take some time building other movies and other characters and then introduce them together in one way or another.”

“I think it would be great to do but I don’t think it’s around the corner.”

Cavill may not have much input when it comes to whether MAN OF STEEL 2 happens next year or not but he and Zack Snyder definitey want to put quality over quantity.  I am sure Warner Bros. is envious of how Disney has rolled out their Marvel films, but just when we assume WB is going to mimic them things could go differently.  The wise decision would be to plan, like Cavill says, and do JUSTICE LEAGUE when they have everything lined up to make it a success, not rush it to make a profit.  But, this is Hollywood, so maybe the rush is exactly what is going to happen.

Source: ScreenRant

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5:18PM on 06/25/2013

i dont get Cavill's statement.

superman is the most "god-like" our of all the super heroes. so it shouldn't be a problem to add lesser "god-like" characters into the world where the most "god-like" character already exists. you're telling me a world with a superman is "too realistic" for a flash? really? and i'm getting really sick of the comparison of super heroes to gods too. i mean... jeez just because Marvel or the Dark Knight did something one way doesn't mean that's the only way to do it! come on, take a risk! it's
superman is the most "god-like" our of all the super heroes. so it shouldn't be a problem to add lesser "god-like" characters into the world where the most "god-like" character already exists. you're telling me a world with a superman is "too realistic" for a flash? really? and i'm getting really sick of the comparison of super heroes to gods too. i mean... jeez just because Marvel or the Dark Knight did something one way doesn't mean that's the only way to do it! come on, take a risk! it's like nobody's trying to work to uphold a suspension of disbelief anymore. it can be done! transformers 2 literally had robot gods in it that resurrected human life. now, that movie sucked, but nobody walked out if it saying "man that was so unrealistic". i firmly believe there's a way to make a successful justice league movie right now without having to do solo films or place it in a TDK-esque "gritty real world setting".
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7:25PM on 06/25/2013
double post. 2 chainz!!!
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7:25PM on 06/25/2013
@Guy

the gritty realism was in reference to the paradigm set by TDK. the Marvel paradigm is that you have to have solo movies before the team up one. my point was that it seems DC/WB feels they have to do either (or both). i think they can do a non-gritty JL movie without solo films beforehand. and the ending of the Avengers was more Transformers 3 than anything. i'm not saying MoS/TDK/Avengers is the right way to do it. my point is more that there is no single (or two) "right way". take a
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the gritty realism was in reference to the paradigm set by TDK. the Marvel paradigm is that you have to have solo movies before the team up one. my point was that it seems DC/WB feels they have to do either (or both). i think they can do a non-gritty JL movie without solo films beforehand. and the ending of the Avengers was more Transformers 3 than anything. i'm not saying MoS/TDK/Avengers is the right way to do it. my point is more that there is no single (or two) "right way". take a risk and make your own "right way".
5:51PM on 06/25/2013
Marvel aren't doing gritty realistic at all.

Marvel are doing a man lost in time fighting alongside a god against another god in charge of an alien species attacking New york whilst a man in a metal suit flies a nuclear missile through a dimensional wormhole into space.

They then followed this up with a movie about a man fighting fire-breathing terminators.

There is no "gritty realism" to the Marvel movies, they're doing exactly what you claim you want which is cartoony fun "pop"
Marvel aren't doing gritty realistic at all.

Marvel are doing a man lost in time fighting alongside a god against another god in charge of an alien species attacking New york whilst a man in a metal suit flies a nuclear missile through a dimensional wormhole into space.

They then followed this up with a movie about a man fighting fire-breathing terminators.

There is no "gritty realism" to the Marvel movies, they're doing exactly what you claim you want which is cartoony fun "pop" movies with a charming cast and respect shown to the source material.

ironically the one movie amongst all of these Superhero films that looked anything like the Transformers movies that you've used as an example....is the ending of Man of Steel.
5:19PM on 06/25/2013
Hope they take their sweet time and do it right. And when these characters to eventually get together and form a team, they should have a damn good reason plot wise.
Hope they take their sweet time and do it right. And when these characters to eventually get together and form a team, they should have a damn good reason plot wise.
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5:41PM on 06/25/2013
"Godlike powers... oh and then there's this guy who can talk to fish."
"Godlike powers... oh and then there's this guy who can talk to fish."
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12:44AM on 06/26/2013
hey dreamfall, guess what, that's just as lame as talking to the fish... actually, wait, it's more lame. he can't even hold a conversation with a fish with his powers.
hey dreamfall, guess what, that's just as lame as talking to the fish... actually, wait, it's more lame. he can't even hold a conversation with a fish with his powers.
9:22PM on 06/25/2013
Sorry to get all comic nerd on you, but he doesn't talk to fish. He can telepathically push them to help out, he isn't having conversations with them and saying "Hey fish! Fight for me!"
Sorry to get all comic nerd on you, but he doesn't talk to fish. He can telepathically push them to help out, he isn't having conversations with them and saying "Hey fish! Fight for me!"
8:02PM on 06/25/2013
No, but I can eat them. Pretty sure Aquaman wouldn't eat a fish. +1 ChosBeforeHos!!!!@!
No, but I can eat them. Pretty sure Aquaman wouldn't eat a fish. +1 ChosBeforeHos!!!!@!
5:46PM on 06/25/2013
Can you talk to fish? Didn't think so. +1 Aquaman
Can you talk to fish? Didn't think so. +1 Aquaman
5:49PM on 06/25/2013
I am still 50/50 on this. It's not really fair to pick on WB & try to compare DC to Marvel over & over again. I just think to WB it is more quantity over quality. Marvel planned this out years in advance & did not have to rely on the movies being successful.
I am still 50/50 on this. It's not really fair to pick on WB & try to compare DC to Marvel over & over again. I just think to WB it is more quantity over quality. Marvel planned this out years in advance & did not have to rely on the movies being successful.
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5:53PM on 06/25/2013
If the destruction in Man of Steel is anything to go by, when trouble lands on earth Superman will just instruct the Justice League to nuke the planet from it's space station and somehow consider the planet saved.
If the destruction in Man of Steel is anything to go by, when trouble lands on earth Superman will just instruct the Justice League to nuke the planet from it's space station and somehow consider the planet saved.
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6:08PM on 06/25/2013
Which is not really very Supermannish....

He's supposed to be above humans, which he would be if his earth father didn't keep telling him to hide away quietly and let kids die on buses.
Which is not really very Supermannish....

He's supposed to be above humans, which he would be if his earth father didn't keep telling him to hide away quietly and let kids die on buses.
6:00PM on 06/25/2013
Superman was raised as a human. Therefore he has human emotions such as anger which could cloud his judgement. The only thing he cared about was punching Zod for threatening is mom
Superman was raised as a human. Therefore he has human emotions such as anger which could cloud his judgement. The only thing he cared about was punching Zod for threatening is mom
5:55PM on 06/25/2013
Christ even I realise how bitter that sounded and already regret it.

Why didn't you want to save people Superman? Why did you drag Zod INTO Smallville, killing hundreds in silo collapses and petrol station explosions on the way when he was already out in the a farmland in the middle of nowhere?
Christ even I realise how bitter that sounded and already regret it.

Why didn't you want to save people Superman? Why did you drag Zod INTO Smallville, killing hundreds in silo collapses and petrol station explosions on the way when he was already out in the a farmland in the middle of nowhere?
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5:55PM on 06/25/2013

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Instead of wasting a post, enjoy this Superman related video.

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7:04PM on 06/25/2013

I'm still waiting for an actual Superman movie

But Man of Steel was a pretty decent Hulk movie.
But Man of Steel was a pretty decent Hulk movie.
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7:39PM on 06/25/2013
Exactly, I find it odd no one's really remarked that Goyer basically ripped off the 70's Hulk show.
Exactly, I find it odd no one's really remarked that Goyer basically ripped off the 70's Hulk show.
7:14PM on 06/25/2013
In an interview from an argentinian web site the reporter asked Henry about what he prefer between a JLA movie or a Batman/Superman movie. And Henry answer that "in an ideal world" it would be more interesting a Superman/Batman movie first. And seriously... I thinks thatll be great. Because really guys... the reason to see a JLA movie (at least for a lot of people like me) is to see them together, I dont care about the rest (ok maybe Flash...). A good Batman & Superman movie will make tons
In an interview from an argentinian web site the reporter asked Henry about what he prefer between a JLA movie or a Batman/Superman movie. And Henry answer that "in an ideal world" it would be more interesting a Superman/Batman movie first. And seriously... I thinks thatll be great. Because really guys... the reason to see a JLA movie (at least for a lot of people like me) is to see them together, I dont care about the rest (ok maybe Flash...). A good Batman & Superman movie will make tons of money, probably in Avengers level. TDK made 534 million domestic, just a little money less than Avengers, so you dont need a big DC superhero team to compete. Just do things right! And it will be a more original treatment. Marvel did it great in terms of assemble the avengers movie, but DC dont need to do exactly the same. Just make a great movie with the two biggest heros, and then make some decent Flash, Wonder Woman and Aquaman movies. Its not necesary a team up to make tons of money...
Anyway here is the interview I was talking about, at 3:00
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6:22AM on 06/26/2013
Tae, I hate to break it to you, but little girls aren't looking up to Wonder Woman. They're looking up to Snookie, Nicki Minaj and the like. Humanity is doomed
Tae, I hate to break it to you, but little girls aren't looking up to Wonder Woman. They're looking up to Snookie, Nicki Minaj and the like. Humanity is doomed
7:31PM on 06/25/2013
Batman/Superman dynamic is awesome. but so is the Green Lantern/Flash dynamic. and i bet a ton of little girls are waiting to look up to Wonder Woman. u have a point, but.... it's like... Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen were awesome together. i would definitely watch them play 2 on 2 games, but it wouldn't have the same moments as the whole Chicago Bulls team playing together.
Batman/Superman dynamic is awesome. but so is the Green Lantern/Flash dynamic. and i bet a ton of little girls are waiting to look up to Wonder Woman. u have a point, but.... it's like... Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen were awesome together. i would definitely watch them play 2 on 2 games, but it wouldn't have the same moments as the whole Chicago Bulls team playing together.
9:25PM on 06/25/2013
I hope it doesn't happen at all now. I hated Man of Steel and if a JL movie is going to have the same serious tone and style, then I don't want one. I know DC is "darker" than Marvel at times, but a good light hearted movie similar to The Avengers it totally possible for a JL movie. I mean go back to the early 2000's cartoon series, it's fantastic without being grimly serious and dull like Man of Steel was.
I hope it doesn't happen at all now. I hated Man of Steel and if a JL movie is going to have the same serious tone and style, then I don't want one. I know DC is "darker" than Marvel at times, but a good light hearted movie similar to The Avengers it totally possible for a JL movie. I mean go back to the early 2000's cartoon series, it's fantastic without being grimly serious and dull like Man of Steel was.
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10:15PM on 06/25/2013
I really hope that someday we do get a great Justice League film. I think with the right build up, character development, and talent, a Justice League film could be just as good, if not better than The Avengers (not knocking the film. It's amazing). I just always thought a Justice League film would be more epic to see and the fact that we would see the two most iconic Superheroes of all time, Superman AND Batman fighting together side by side.

But the only way this works is if DC is smart
I really hope that someday we do get a great Justice League film. I think with the right build up, character development, and talent, a Justice League film could be just as good, if not better than The Avengers (not knocking the film. It's amazing). I just always thought a Justice League film would be more epic to see and the fact that we would see the two most iconic Superheroes of all time, Superman AND Batman fighting together side by side.

But the only way this works is if DC is smart and doesn't rush into it. Develop the other characters and take your time with the stories. Quality over quantity. Having Snyder direct Justice League would be a great step in the right direction.
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10:36PM on 06/25/2013
A little off topic, but I love how our favorite superheroes are generally and genuinely nice people in real life. Hugh Jackman, Christian Bale, Henry Cavill, Rob Downey Jr. It really helps when these on-screen icons are good people on the outside as well, instead of being rude, obnoxious douches who throw their weight around.

Let's keep the nice-guy ball rolling by signing Dwayne Johnson to play a "super-something".
A little off topic, but I love how our favorite superheroes are generally and genuinely nice people in real life. Hugh Jackman, Christian Bale, Henry Cavill, Rob Downey Jr. It really helps when these on-screen icons are good people on the outside as well, instead of being rude, obnoxious douches who throw their weight around.

Let's keep the nice-guy ball rolling by signing Dwayne Johnson to play a "super-something".
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6:15AM on 06/26/2013
I guess you missed Bale's "nice guy moment" on the set of Terminator Salvation.
I guess you missed Bale's "nice guy moment" on the set of Terminator Salvation.
10:36PM on 06/25/2013
I'm not holding my breath, but I think that eventually, it can and will happen and that Man of Steel is a solid-enough base to build a DC cinematic universe upon.
I'm not holding my breath, but I think that eventually, it can and will happen and that Man of Steel is a solid-enough base to build a DC cinematic universe upon.
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10:44PM on 06/25/2013

are solo films really necesarry? - my rant

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10:45PM on 06/25/2013

are solo films really necesarry? - my rant

i mean, did we absolutely NEED to see the edward norton hulk movie in order to understand the hulk's motivations in the avengers? what did the thor movie tell us about the characters that couldnt have been told via a few thor/loki flashback scenes? what did the captain america movie teach us about the tesseract that couldn't have been explained in an opening narration? (cap actually gets some flashbackstory in the avengers). i don't think that individual solo films are necessary to tell a great
i mean, did we absolutely NEED to see the edward norton hulk movie in order to understand the hulk's motivations in the avengers? what did the thor movie tell us about the characters that couldnt have been told via a few thor/loki flashback scenes? what did the captain america movie teach us about the tesseract that couldn't have been explained in an opening narration? (cap actually gets some flashbackstory in the avengers). i don't think that individual solo films are necessary to tell a great team story. all that the Marvel solo films did was get the general audience adept to the concept of superhero teams. had they gone with an avengers movie w/o the solo films, the general audience would have just written it off as "another superhero movie" instead of accepting it as a "massive superhero team up spectacle". now, given the avengers success at mass appeal and the flood of superhero movies since 2008, that battle is done. DC doesn't have to worry about that.. i think they can announce a JLA movie without solo films, and people will understand it is a "massive superhero team up spectacle". JLA could be it's own trilogy without any solo films and still have enough space to tell an epic story with deep characterization. this also allows you to make solo films AFTER the team up movie when you know which characters worked and which didn't (they can even do prequel origin stories!). i really don't get why DC/WB feels they have to follow the Marvel/Disney model instead taking the risk of navigating on their own. it's sad.
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9:51AM on 06/26/2013
@the_soloist. did u even read what i wrote? you're point is EXACTLY what i explained isn't necessary.
@the_soloist. did u even read what i wrote? you're point is EXACTLY what i explained isn't necessary.
9:50AM on 06/26/2013
@damien6. in an ideal world stretching everything out and doing many solo films before the team up film will make tons of money. but it's also a giant risk. what if the solo films flop? what if you have a really good batman movie, a really good superman movie, but then drop the ball with wonder woman, flash, green lantern, etc?. what if they LOSE money on those films? then they'd be in a worse position to make the JLA movie. by introducing all the characters at first, then they can judge which
@damien6. in an ideal world stretching everything out and doing many solo films before the team up film will make tons of money. but it's also a giant risk. what if the solo films flop? what if you have a really good batman movie, a really good superman movie, but then drop the ball with wonder woman, flash, green lantern, etc?. what if they LOSE money on those films? then they'd be in a worse position to make the JLA movie. by introducing all the characters at first, then they can judge which ones should get a proper solo film.
8:12AM on 06/26/2013
Why make 1 billion dollars from one film when u can make 15638191515373001 billion from 5 films? Not taking into account stock evaluation and general ball fry envy from rival studios...
Why make 1 billion dollars from one film when u can make 15638191515373001 billion from 5 films? Not taking into account stock evaluation and general ball fry envy from rival studios...
12:06AM on 06/26/2013
Because people like myself enjoy good storytelling and character development. And also seeing a good origins story for each superhero.

And the anticipation of finally seeing them all come together as one big team.
Because people like myself enjoy good storytelling and character development. And also seeing a good origins story for each superhero.

And the anticipation of finally seeing them all come together as one big team.
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10:59PM on 06/25/2013

movie was great

I loved the tone finally superman wasn't a wimp
I loved the tone finally superman wasn't a wimp
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11:25PM on 06/25/2013
Get Mark Strong in MoS II, as rumored, and have him be the "holy shit there's an alien who brought massive destruction to our world and he should absolutely be stopped before he takes over on a whim" version of Luthor. He approaches fellow captain of industry Bruce Wayne about this issue, as they have the means and fortitude to do something about. Share some kryptonite. Lex goes all out trying to stop Superman, but Wayne takes a more hands off approach while he evaluates the situation more.
Get Mark Strong in MoS II, as rumored, and have him be the "holy shit there's an alien who brought massive destruction to our world and he should absolutely be stopped before he takes over on a whim" version of Luthor. He approaches fellow captain of industry Bruce Wayne about this issue, as they have the means and fortitude to do something about. Share some kryptonite. Lex goes all out trying to stop Superman, but Wayne takes a more hands off approach while he evaluates the situation more. Wayne sees Luthor's failings and formulates his plan to stop Superman if he has to. Enter JLA and their uneasy alliance.

You can have that one for free, Warners.
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11:15AM on 06/26/2013
I think WB should follow Marvel/Disney's model and get started on building the universe and making solo movies for core characters. To be honest, as great as the Marvel Cinematic Universe is, I don't see it having the strength to continue as successfully beyond Phase 3. By the time WB would be ready to make a Justice League film, it will be around the time that the MCU is starting to falter, which means there would be a void in the market for something new. That means WB can fill the void
I think WB should follow Marvel/Disney's model and get started on building the universe and making solo movies for core characters. To be honest, as great as the Marvel Cinematic Universe is, I don't see it having the strength to continue as successfully beyond Phase 3. By the time WB would be ready to make a Justice League film, it will be around the time that the MCU is starting to falter, which means there would be a void in the market for something new. That means WB can fill the void and reap all the financial benefits. Rushing the project now is only going to churn out a subpar movie that will most likely be laughed at by fans and Marvel as well.
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10:42PM on 06/26/2013
A lot of things come in cycle, movies are no exception, I would rather DC take their time, but from a business point of view, in this case DC/WB, I can understand them wanting to rush things a little. I am not saying it's the smartest thing to do. But if they do take their time like Marvel did, well by the time they get to a JLA movie, the superhero movie trend/cycle might be over and done and they will have missed the boat! ...it could also be the movie to, by the time it gets released, sink
A lot of things come in cycle, movies are no exception, I would rather DC take their time, but from a business point of view, in this case DC/WB, I can understand them wanting to rush things a little. I am not saying it's the smartest thing to do. But if they do take their time like Marvel did, well by the time they get to a JLA movie, the superhero movie trend/cycle might be over and done and they will have missed the boat! ...it could also be the movie to, by the time it gets released, sink said boat or reignite the genre. Who knows. All I have to say is I rather they start opening their cinematic universe like Iron Man 1 and every subsequent Marvel movies did.
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11:21AM on 06/27/2013
In my opinion they need to focus on MoS 2 introducing the Lex Luthor character as an industrialist who is hell bent on proving that other alien life exists and that they are all dangerous, including Superman. Lex sends out a signal calling for other alien life. In comes a villain such as Brainiac. Superman needs to save the day but in the wake of the first MoS and now these events people are questioning superman. Give the new (non Nolan) Bruce Wayne a cameo as someone Lex was attempting to team
In my opinion they need to focus on MoS 2 introducing the Lex Luthor character as an industrialist who is hell bent on proving that other alien life exists and that they are all dangerous, including Superman. Lex sends out a signal calling for other alien life. In comes a villain such as Brainiac. Superman needs to save the day but in the wake of the first MoS and now these events people are questioning superman. Give the new (non Nolan) Bruce Wayne a cameo as someone Lex was attempting to team with on this venture. Batman is a well enough known character that he doesn't require a stand alone film before a JLA film. Now after Superman wins we see the arrival of two other aliens. Wonder Woman and Martian Man Hunter. Now you have established why they have arrived and can give some backstory on them at this point or early in JLA. You already have an established Green Lantern(even if the movie didn't do well and some people don't like Reynolds, deal with it he is an established character already). Now the only one that still needs established is The Flash. They can give him an origin story early in JLA or film a solo film in conjunction with JLA with a release 2-3 months prior to JLA. Now your team is established and you can make JLA and follow it with solo films.
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