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How Age of Ultron follows up Winter Soldier plus Black Widow film status

08.06.2014

So, towards the end of CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER, Cap sets out to hunt down the titular good/bad guy. It seems that CAPTAIN AMERICA 3 will directly follow up with this plot thread, which begs the question of how Captain America would sidestep this in order to deal with the Ultron threat. Joss Whedon actually addressed this in recently and I'm happy to hear it won't be ignored.

In Whedon's words:

The fact is, Ultron is a clear and present danger and Bucky's in the wind. We do mention the fact that that's his sort of primary thing, but he's also working with The Avengers too. We're not ignoring it, but he definitely has to deal with a mad 8 foot robot, because that's one of those things that you put it off and it just gets worse.

Perhaps we'll see Cap mention that he hasn't been able to track down The Winter Soldier early on? Obviously once the threat of Ultron is fully realized, Cap would of course focus his attention on that, but to Marvel's credit they've done such a great job tying all of these plot strands together that I have little doubt the character motivations won't make sense (unlike THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2). That also brings us to Black Widow. A stand-alone film has been teased in the past, but now there seems to be a little bit of pressure on studios to bring more female-centric superheroes to the big screen. One of the writers of GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY, Nicole Perlman, actually had tweeted a few tidbits of information on that front.

Scarlett Johansson has proved to be a charimatic Black Widow, and the character has certainly worked well within AVENGERS/THE WINTER SOLDIER, but I feel the big issue of a Black Widow film is budget. There's no way in hell that a Widow film is going to bring in the dollars of an Avengers, which means that it would have a truncated budget in comparison to your typical Marvel flick. However, if WINTER SOLDIER proved anything, it's that the quality of the action is relative to the story and characters. If you can make it compelling, I think audiences would be along for the ride. The Scarlett Johannson vehicle LUCY has grossed double it's budget so far, so if anything, that should prove to Marvel that a Black Widow movie could be profitable if done right. I would love to see one that would really flesh out the relationship between her and Hawkeye. In the meantime we'll have to settle for what we get in AGE OF ULTRON.

AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON will be released on May 1, 2015.

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8:12AM on 08/07/2014
I don't see the point of a solo Black Widow movie - she's a supporting character, on her own it'd just be an "ass-kicking female spy" movie which is hardly an original concept and doesn't need to be dealt with in a Marvel movie without some other hook - maybe having her lead a SHIELD team but that probably goes against the flow of the Marvel cinematic universe's priorities. Marvel would be better off developing some of their other female characters.
I don't see the point of a solo Black Widow movie - she's a supporting character, on her own it'd just be an "ass-kicking female spy" movie which is hardly an original concept and doesn't need to be dealt with in a Marvel movie without some other hook - maybe having her lead a SHIELD team but that probably goes against the flow of the Marvel cinematic universe's priorities. Marvel would be better off developing some of their other female characters.
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7:24AM on 08/07/2014

Netflix?

Black Widow, The Falcon, Hawkeye and the Winter Soldier could get the Netflix treatment.
Black Widow, The Falcon, Hawkeye and the Winter Soldier could get the Netflix treatment.
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7:15AM on 08/07/2014

Obviously...

The Black Widow and The Falcon will have a big role in Captain America 3. Guaranteed. People are speculating that Captain America will die in either Captain America 3 or Avengers 3. I doubt that. But I don't think we'll see either Captain America 4 or a Black Widow movie any time soon. I like the suggestion somebody made of a Secret Avengers movie focusing on Captain America, The Black Widow, The Falcon, Hawkeye and The Winter Soldier with Mighty Avengers 4 and 5 shifting the focus to The
The Black Widow and The Falcon will have a big role in Captain America 3. Guaranteed. People are speculating that Captain America will die in either Captain America 3 or Avengers 3. I doubt that. But I don't think we'll see either Captain America 4 or a Black Widow movie any time soon. I like the suggestion somebody made of a Secret Avengers movie focusing on Captain America, The Black Widow, The Falcon, Hawkeye and The Winter Soldier with Mighty Avengers 4 and 5 shifting the focus to The Vision, Ant Man, Wasp, the Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, War Machine, the Hulk and Thor. What about Iron Man? Well, Tony Stark obviously will feel bad about creating Ultron so he may quit after Avengers 3 and then return in Avengers 6 (in 2028?) which would be a major team up movie reuniting all the Avengers plus Doctor Strange, the Black Panther and Ms. Marvel and perhaps even Daredevil, Iron Fist, Powerman and Jessica Jones, assuming the Netflix series are a hit. I think we'll have to just wait and see if they ever do a solo Black Widow movie.
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8:52PM on 08/06/2014

Hawkeye movie

I'm all for a Black Widow movie, but what I really want is a Fraction/Aja-style Hawkeye film. I feel like that would translate really well and could do something truly great with the Hawkeye character that they'd be hesitant to do with any bigger characters.
I'm all for a Black Widow movie, but what I really want is a Fraction/Aja-style Hawkeye film. I feel like that would translate really well and could do something truly great with the Hawkeye character that they'd be hesitant to do with any bigger characters.
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8:21PM on 08/06/2014
There need to be more female writers in the big-budget Hollywood blockbuster game. I'm sure Nicole Perlman could take a crack at the Expendabelles and come up with something 100 times better than "high-class hookers undercover".
There need to be more female writers in the big-budget Hollywood blockbuster game. I'm sure Nicole Perlman could take a crack at the Expendabelles and come up with something 100 times better than "high-class hookers undercover".
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12:28AM on 08/08/2014
amen
amen
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7:01PM on 08/06/2014
Given how well Widow came out in Winter Soldier, I'm not sure a Widow and Hawkeye movie would work now. Sure, it helped that as a couple, Rodgers and Widow are played by two fine looking individuals, but the characters had great chemistry. A Widow and Hawkeye relationship will inevitably be compared to that...and it'll most likely fail. The irony is, Avengers Assemble tells us they've had a close working relationship that one would think should hold more importance to Widow than anything
Given how well Widow came out in Winter Soldier, I'm not sure a Widow and Hawkeye movie would work now. Sure, it helped that as a couple, Rodgers and Widow are played by two fine looking individuals, but the characters had great chemistry. A Widow and Hawkeye relationship will inevitably be compared to that...and it'll most likely fail. The irony is, Avengers Assemble tells us they've had a close working relationship that one would think should hold more importance to Widow than anything she's developed with Rodgers. Still, I'd welcome a Widow and Hawkeye movie that is as much a blast as Hansel and Gretel Witch Hunters was (it's a shame the film was such a flop). Oh and Lucy looks like a lot of fun...surely it can't be hard to make a successful standalone Widow movie...if that's the route they take.
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6:55PM on 08/06/2014
Should def have small roles for Stark and Cap in a BW film I think. That would be kind of cool. Maybe even the Falcon.
Should def have small roles for Stark and Cap in a BW film I think. That would be kind of cool. Maybe even the Falcon.
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4:49PM on 08/06/2014
I'm pretty much convinced at this point that Scarlett was pushed to do Lucy by Marvel as a way to see if a Black Widow movie could be profitable. If I'm right, then that means they're totally going for it.

In regards to the first news - that wasn't ever something I was concerned about ever. Not that hard to explain away Cap not chasing after Bucky when there's Hydra on one hand and a robot apocalypse happening on the other. What HAS made me curious is how Tony got Thor back into the fold
I'm pretty much convinced at this point that Scarlett was pushed to do Lucy by Marvel as a way to see if a Black Widow movie could be profitable. If I'm right, then that means they're totally going for it.

In regards to the first news - that wasn't ever something I was concerned about ever. Not that hard to explain away Cap not chasing after Bucky when there's Hydra on one hand and a robot apocalypse happening on the other. What HAS made me curious is how Tony got Thor back into the fold again. There was no indication at the end of Thor 2 that he had any intention of seeking out the Avengers while he was hanging out on Earth.
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7:03PM on 08/06/2014
Probably some really cool never filmed scene where he bumps into Stark during a mission, team up, kicks ass, grabs a pizza while discussing Avengers initiative 2.0
Probably some really cool never filmed scene where he bumps into Stark during a mission, team up, kicks ass, grabs a pizza while discussing Avengers initiative 2.0
4:12PM on 08/06/2014
Just don't make a boring cabin retreat like Elecktra.
Just don't make a boring cabin retreat like Elecktra.
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3:04PM on 08/06/2014

Black Widow Will Be Hit

But first of all, there is absolutely no pressure on the studios to make a female superhero movie. That's just media bullshit.
But first of all, there is absolutely no pressure on the studios to make a female superhero movie. That's just media bullshit.
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2:40PM on 08/06/2014

Hell yeah

I'd like to see the origins of a BW story explored with stuff like what Loki mentioned in the Avengers film but I think if you could keep the costs down and do a potential BW and hawkeye origins story I'd be up for that. To be fair as well neither HE or BW have special talents that would require a lot of VFX and you never know produce something in the region of 80-100mil production costs and see where it goes - come on when was the last time marvel bombed out on a film? On a side note I'd like
I'd like to see the origins of a BW story explored with stuff like what Loki mentioned in the Avengers film but I think if you could keep the costs down and do a potential BW and hawkeye origins story I'd be up for that. To be fair as well neither HE or BW have special talents that would require a lot of VFX and you never know produce something in the region of 80-100mil production costs and see where it goes - come on when was the last time marvel bombed out on a film? On a side note I'd like to see a nick fury film that encompasses the formation of shield and maybe has a younger SLJ character and the character played by RR in winter soldier
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2:11PM on 08/06/2014

extra tidbit

she is just a girl with guns. Ive seen it before and we will see it again, the only difference is she hangs with Marvel characters. If they develop her WAY more and have a GREAT script. Why not.
she is just a girl with guns. Ive seen it before and we will see it again, the only difference is she hangs with Marvel characters. If they develop her WAY more and have a GREAT script. Why not.
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2:10PM on 08/06/2014

anyone baffled by this comment?

"but to Marvel's credit they've done such a great job tying all of these plot strands together that I have little doubt the character motivations won't make sense (unlike THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2). "

either im tired as Fk or he means the other way around and that the characters motivations WILL make sense unlike spidey 2
"but to Marvel's credit they've done such a great job tying all of these plot strands together that I have little doubt the character motivations won't make sense (unlike THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2). "

either im tired as Fk or he means the other way around and that the characters motivations WILL make sense unlike spidey 2
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2:34PM on 08/06/2014
It is a double negative. He is saying that the chance that the motivations won't make sense is small (he had little doubt that this will be the case). Grammatically speaking, double negatives should be avoided. However, the way it is phrased is correct. Something more correct would be, " I am fairly confident that the character motivations will make sense (unlike ASM2)."
It is a double negative. He is saying that the chance that the motivations won't make sense is small (he had little doubt that this will be the case). Grammatically speaking, double negatives should be avoided. However, the way it is phrased is correct. Something more correct would be, " I am fairly confident that the character motivations will make sense (unlike ASM2)."
5:13PM on 08/06/2014
Cut the writers some slack and you will enjoy this site much more. It's pretty clear from context that the sentence should read "will" instead of "won't."
Cut the writers some slack and you will enjoy this site much more. It's pretty clear from context that the sentence should read "will" instead of "won't."
7:21AM on 08/07/2014
But "I have little doubt" means "I am very confident" so he should have said "I have little doubt the character motivations will make sense" and not "won't".
But "I have little doubt" means "I am very confident" so he should have said "I have little doubt the character motivations will make sense" and not "won't".
1:47PM on 08/06/2014
I've already had my fill of Black Widow movies.
I've already had my fill of Black Widow movies.
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1:36PM on 08/06/2014
The movie could definitely work. But the idea that they need to set a budget in the Avengers range of money is stupid. There's no reason why an action sequence and set piece has to resemble anything else in comparison to the other Marvel movies. Black Widow is a spy, have a story centered around her doing spy stuff within the Marvel universe. Make the movie what Agents of SHIELD was supposed to be.
The movie could definitely work. But the idea that they need to set a budget in the Avengers range of money is stupid. There's no reason why an action sequence and set piece has to resemble anything else in comparison to the other Marvel movies. Black Widow is a spy, have a story centered around her doing spy stuff within the Marvel universe. Make the movie what Agents of SHIELD was supposed to be.
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1:35PM on 08/06/2014
I actually think it would be a cool idea if we got a Black Widow and Hawkeye film that really fleshed out their characters more then we have previously seen. I mean, I think it would work wonders for Renner's Hawkeye and he and Scarlett both have the star power to carry this film, so why not.
I actually think it would be a cool idea if we got a Black Widow and Hawkeye film that really fleshed out their characters more then we have previously seen. I mean, I think it would work wonders for Renner's Hawkeye and he and Scarlett both have the star power to carry this film, so why not.
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1:24PM on 08/06/2014

black widow film?

no. I'd read the plot spoilers on wikipedia when it comes out in the event something interesting happens.
no. I'd read the plot spoilers on wikipedia when it comes out in the event something interesting happens.
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