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10.13.2008

IRON MAN screenwriter Mark Fergus spoke to MTV about his belief that the Hulk should be the villain in the upcoming AVENGERS movie that is being built towards:

"I hope ‘The Avengers’ embraces that... You don’t want like 10 super-badass good guys fighting together. Where’s the fun in that? Let’s break it off a little. Friends or colleagues who become enemies is always an interesting thing because you know it’s based on love and friendship and that’s always the worst thing to have turn bad — is someone you actually care about and someone you actually believe in.”

Louis Leterrier added:

“I left the door open for whoever’s going to direct ‘The Avengers’ with our last shot. Edward [Norton] and I, we consciously decided to make the last shot of the movie when he opens his eyes and he smirks at the camera... Is he enjoying it? Is he malicious? That’s what’s great about Edward. You don’t know if he’s a good guy or bad guy. He’s always on this edge and we’ve been sort of surfing that edge, that very thin edge during the entire movie.”

This, in my opinion, is an excellent choice. But what do you guys think?
Extra Tidbit: Leterrier sees the scene with Stark and General Ross in the bar as the first scene of THE AVENGERS.
Source: MTV

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6:25PM on 10/15/2008
Hulk doesn't need to be the main villain, but I love the idea of them fighting him as a second climax. They could just use the formula the Ultimates used. Have someone throw Banner out of an airplane to use as a bomb of sorts to fight the aliens. Once he's taken care of the invaders he's unstopable so the rest of the team has to step up and fight him. I like that the Hulk isn't really a member of the Ultimates, Banner is on a scientific level.
Hulk doesn't need to be the main villain, but I love the idea of them fighting him as a second climax. They could just use the formula the Ultimates used. Have someone throw Banner out of an airplane to use as a bomb of sorts to fight the aliens. Once he's taken care of the invaders he's unstopable so the rest of the team has to step up and fight him. I like that the Hulk isn't really a member of the Ultimates, Banner is on a scientific level.
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8:39AM on 10/15/2008

It worked in the animated Avengers movie!

I got to see Avengers the Movie the other day, and I gotta say, I loved the last 20 minutes in which Hulk goes crazy and starts fighting off the Avengers and completely demolishes Shields headquarters...I think that could work extremely well on film as well.
I got to see Avengers the Movie the other day, and I gotta say, I loved the last 20 minutes in which Hulk goes crazy and starts fighting off the Avengers and completely demolishes Shields headquarters...I think that could work extremely well on film as well.
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7:36AM on 10/15/2008

Hulk makes a good Villain

It would cool to watch the Hulk tear stuff up and poor Bruce Banner trying to make everything right especially against Tony Stark and the Avenger's. If Hollywood takes this movie a non-traditional route I think it has a chance and also, they have to stick to the comics as closely as possible. I know they want everyone and their mother to be in the theaters but seriously, if it's a REAL comic book movie, fanboys will be all over that! I know I would.
It would cool to watch the Hulk tear stuff up and poor Bruce Banner trying to make everything right especially against Tony Stark and the Avenger's. If Hollywood takes this movie a non-traditional route I think it has a chance and also, they have to stick to the comics as closely as possible. I know they want everyone and their mother to be in the theaters but seriously, if it's a REAL comic book movie, fanboys will be all over that! I know I would.
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10:10PM on 10/14/2008

Can't thank you enough

guys - and personally, I don't think your nerds - when we were kids some read comic books and others read Choose your own adventure books. I think the comics were much better.
guys - and personally, I don't think your nerds - when we were kids some read comic books and others read Choose your own adventure books. I think the comics were much better.
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8:42PM on 10/14/2008
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yep , that right.
cap fell off and got frozen during World War II , and got revived in the present time (or 1960s at that time).

sigh ... im a comic book nerd too
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yep , that right.
cap fell off and got frozen during World War II , and got revived in the present time (or 1960s at that time).

sigh ... im a comic book nerd too
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2:07PM on 10/14/2008

Comic Book

hunter8, in the comic book Cap falls off while hanging on to a fighter plane piloted by the Red Skull. Everyone thinks he dies, but actually falls into the Arctic. The Super Soldier formula somehow helps his body survive the fall and freezing temp putting him into a cryo-state where years later he is revived. I think the SubMariner was somehow involved in that unknowingly. Damn, do i feel like a nerd.
hunter8, in the comic book Cap falls off while hanging on to a fighter plane piloted by the Red Skull. Everyone thinks he dies, but actually falls into the Arctic. The Super Soldier formula somehow helps his body survive the fall and freezing temp putting him into a cryo-state where years later he is revived. I think the SubMariner was somehow involved in that unknowingly. Damn, do i feel like a nerd.
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12:42PM on 10/14/2008

HELP

I know this isn't the place, but I thought it was HULK related. We've all heard about Captain America being shown in the deleted opening sequence on the dvd frozen in the artic. Forgive my lack of comics knowledge, but why would he be frozen in the artic?
I know this isn't the place, but I thought it was HULK related. We've all heard about Captain America being shown in the deleted opening sequence on the dvd frozen in the artic. Forgive my lack of comics knowledge, but why would he be frozen in the artic?
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12:15PM on 10/14/2008

what about spidey?

Spider-man NEEDS to be in the Avengers. the Peter Parker/Tony Stark dynamic was one of my favorite parts of the comics.
Spider-man NEEDS to be in the Avengers. the Peter Parker/Tony Stark dynamic was one of my favorite parts of the comics.
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12:09PM on 10/14/2008

im down

let spilberg direct it and lucas produce it so we can all complain about it

but seriously im cool with favs right now but i wanna see a third party do it
let spilberg direct it and lucas produce it so we can all complain about it

but seriously im cool with favs right now but i wanna see a third party do it
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12:08PM on 10/14/2008
Meh, but the Hulk's a good guy. I disagree with Mark Fergus -- it's fun to team up a bunch of good guys. Whenever they split off and start hating each other, that's really hard to sell because it always feels like manufactured conflict that flies against their "good" natures.
Meh, but the Hulk's a good guy. I disagree with Mark Fergus -- it's fun to team up a bunch of good guys. Whenever they split off and start hating each other, that's really hard to sell because it always feels like manufactured conflict that flies against their "good" natures.
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12:07PM on 10/14/2008

im down

let spilberg direct it and lucas produce it so we can all complain about it

but seriously im cool with favs right now but i wanna see a third party do it
let spilberg direct it and lucas produce it so we can all complain about it

but seriously im cool with favs right now but i wanna see a third party do it
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3:59AM on 10/14/2008
Dear God! As long as they get anyone EXCEPT Leterrier to direct it. If I have to look at another five minute long helicopter shot over a Brazilian ghetto again, I'm going to have to hurt someone.

AND they need to hire someone that actually writes screenplays for a living. Norton's a good actor, but that script had a bad smell to it.
Dear God! As long as they get anyone EXCEPT Leterrier to direct it. If I have to look at another five minute long helicopter shot over a Brazilian ghetto again, I'm going to have to hurt someone.

AND they need to hire someone that actually writes screenplays for a living. Norton's a good actor, but that script had a bad smell to it.
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3:49AM on 10/14/2008
Hulk as a villian definately. That would be aweasome. whether banner is evil himself i'm not quite sure about. I like the idea of hulk just having ultimate power and banner no control.
Hulk as a villian definately. That would be aweasome. whether banner is evil himself i'm not quite sure about. I like the idea of hulk just having ultimate power and banner no control.
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3:44AM on 10/14/2008

Nice

I like this idea..and I'd like to see Louis direct the Avengers film....instead of Favs...but I dunno...maaybe a third party
I like this idea..and I'd like to see Louis direct the Avengers film....instead of Favs...but I dunno...maaybe a third party
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2:00AM on 10/14/2008

Meh...

I want to see more of a threat than just the Hulk. Why put together a team of superheroes just to fight another superhero.
I want to see more of a threat than just the Hulk. Why put together a team of superheroes just to fight another superhero.
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11:33PM on 10/13/2008
I LOVE IT!! Get the wheels in motion!!! Who should direct though??
I LOVE IT!! Get the wheels in motion!!! Who should direct though??
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9:08PM on 10/13/2008

Hell Yes

Man I enjoyed the Hulk and with Norton this can really work..
Man I enjoyed the Hulk and with Norton this can really work..
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8:17PM on 10/13/2008
Perfect.
Perfect.
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8:12PM on 10/13/2008
I love the crap out of this idea. Nothing like watching the Hulk rip through all the Avengers. Better than seeing him hanging around trying to be one.
I love the crap out of this idea. Nothing like watching the Hulk rip through all the Avengers. Better than seeing him hanging around trying to be one.
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8:01PM on 10/13/2008
When the Avenger's first came about, their main enemy was often the Hulk. This is clearly the path they should and will take.
When the Avenger's first came about, their main enemy was often the Hulk. This is clearly the path they should and will take.
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8:00PM on 10/13/2008
Errr, when isn't The Avengers going after The Hulk?

Both of The Ultimate Avengers animated films dealt The Hulk being more or less a villain.
Errr, when isn't The Avengers going after The Hulk?

Both of The Ultimate Avengers animated films dealt The Hulk being more or less a villain.
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7:13PM on 10/13/2008
I thought the last shot in "Incredible Hulk" meant that Norton was able to finally fully control his transformations, that he had totally zenned-out or something.

I think it'd be even cooler if he once again lost that ability to control the Hulk. Having the Avengers try to take down the Hulk in at least one film would be fun to see.
I thought the last shot in "Incredible Hulk" meant that Norton was able to finally fully control his transformations, that he had totally zenned-out or something.

I think it'd be even cooler if he once again lost that ability to control the Hulk. Having the Avengers try to take down the Hulk in at least one film would be fun to see.
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6:52PM on 10/13/2008
as long as they don't let norton fiddle with the script/get somebody who doesn't give Banner unintentionally hilarious lines I think it could be a great idea.
as long as they don't let norton fiddle with the script/get somebody who doesn't give Banner unintentionally hilarious lines I think it could be a great idea.
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6:37PM on 10/13/2008
as many of you have stated since my first post on this article, my ideas are in fact taken from the ultimates. the first two volumes of that series were very obviously written with movie adaptations in mind. Just look at Nick Fury in the Iron Man movie, Sam Jackson, that says it all.

Most of marvels movies have been taking their cue from the ultimate line. and so they should really, since those books were modernized versions of marvels biggest classics.
as many of you have stated since my first post on this article, my ideas are in fact taken from the ultimates. the first two volumes of that series were very obviously written with movie adaptations in mind. Just look at Nick Fury in the Iron Man movie, Sam Jackson, that says it all.

Most of marvels movies have been taking their cue from the ultimate line. and so they should really, since those books were modernized versions of marvels biggest classics.
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6:19PM on 10/13/2008

What else is new...

Marvel "heroes" in-fighting. There is nothing new there. We have been seeing this for quite literally HALF A CENTURY!!
Marvel "heroes" in-fighting. There is nothing new there. We have been seeing this for quite literally HALF A CENTURY!!
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6:10PM on 10/13/2008
Id love it if it was based around the ultimates 1 and 2 storyline.
Id love it if it was based around the ultimates 1 and 2 storyline.
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5:51PM on 10/13/2008

Great Idea

Great idea.

Smart idea.

Not only does it make it more interesting, it opens up the issue of where is the line of hero and villain, and the nature of power. It's more nuanced, and just has great potential to be about something.

Also.. like he said.. what's the fun in watching 10 heroes beat up on something.. and what is that going to be? "Global Warming"? Aliens?

It would suffer from Superman syndrome.

Hulk as bad guy would be great.

Make it so.
Great idea.

Smart idea.

Not only does it make it more interesting, it opens up the issue of where is the line of hero and villain, and the nature of power. It's more nuanced, and just has great potential to be about something.

Also.. like he said.. what's the fun in watching 10 heroes beat up on something.. and what is that going to be? "Global Warming"? Aliens?

It would suffer from Superman syndrome.

Hulk as bad guy would be great.

Make it so.
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5:50PM on 10/13/2008
I think if the first half of the movie revolves around chasing down the hulk, its a great idea. But it seems anti-climatic to have him as the main villian because everyone knows the hulk won't be killed off or anything. I say introduce a villian towards the end, and lead in to a sequel.

BTW: is it just me or does this avengers movie feel a long way off, seeing as Cap't America, Thor, and Iron man 2 are still suppose to be released first?
I think if the first half of the movie revolves around chasing down the hulk, its a great idea. But it seems anti-climatic to have him as the main villian because everyone knows the hulk won't be killed off or anything. I say introduce a villian towards the end, and lead in to a sequel.

BTW: is it just me or does this avengers movie feel a long way off, seeing as Cap't America, Thor, and Iron man 2 are still suppose to be released first?
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5:42PM on 10/13/2008
I have yet to see the Incredible Hulk (getting the DVD on wednesday) but from what I've heard it's an awesome movie (as opposed to the '03 version.) Anyways, to get to the point. I can totally see this happening. I mean come on, admit that all of you want to see Iron Man, Thor and Captain America kick some green butt (or get their butts kicked)! I just hope they make it REALLY well, I'd hate to see another X3/Spider-Man 3 fiasco.
I have yet to see the Incredible Hulk (getting the DVD on wednesday) but from what I've heard it's an awesome movie (as opposed to the '03 version.) Anyways, to get to the point. I can totally see this happening. I mean come on, admit that all of you want to see Iron Man, Thor and Captain America kick some green butt (or get their butts kicked)! I just hope they make it REALLY well, I'd hate to see another X3/Spider-Man 3 fiasco.
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5:34PM on 10/13/2008

Don't Like The Idea

I'm surprised at how many people are giving this a green box. I mean Hulk is one of my favorite super heroes of all time and I do not know if I would enjoy him being a villian in the Avengers movie.

In all honesty, the reason I am so on the fence about this is that the idea could go either way; if done in the right way of course.

If they were to go in this direction, I would love to have Norton back as Bruce Banner/Hulk.

It would be nice to see Norton play a villian again though.
I'm surprised at how many people are giving this a green box. I mean Hulk is one of my favorite super heroes of all time and I do not know if I would enjoy him being a villian in the Avengers movie.

In all honesty, the reason I am so on the fence about this is that the idea could go either way; if done in the right way of course.

If they were to go in this direction, I would love to have Norton back as Bruce Banner/Hulk.

It would be nice to see Norton play a villian again though.
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5:24PM on 10/13/2008

reznorchrist

This news sounds amazing and I'm pumped for it if it actually plays out.

In regards to reznorchrist and "end all spoilers"...it's pretty simple. If there is a news story on Joblo that regards a movie that you HAVEN'T seen, it might make sense for you not to read the story. Yes, I agree that spoilers should be kept out of the headlines so casual browzers (like you and I and several others) don't get spoiled just from simply looking at the site. Yet, I do believe that if Hulk is actually
This news sounds amazing and I'm pumped for it if it actually plays out.

In regards to reznorchrist and "end all spoilers"...it's pretty simple. If there is a news story on Joblo that regards a movie that you HAVEN'T seen, it might make sense for you not to read the story. Yes, I agree that spoilers should be kept out of the headlines so casual browzers (like you and I and several others) don't get spoiled just from simply looking at the site. Yet, I do believe that if Hulk is actually going to be villian in the Avengers that they are probably going to promote the hell out of it and everyone will know prior to the film's release...it won't be a plot twist.

So settle. Stop reading Hulk articles until you've seen the movie.
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5:24PM on 10/13/2008

Ultimates

Just adapt the first volume of Ultimates (minus the Cap intro assuming it'll be in his movie) and you've already got a great Avengers vs. Hulk story. Plus, the Hulk movie already introduced his origin (and abomination's) as being similar to Ultimate Hulk.
Just adapt the first volume of Ultimates (minus the Cap intro assuming it'll be in his movie) and you've already got a great Avengers vs. Hulk story. Plus, the Hulk movie already introduced his origin (and abomination's) as being similar to Ultimate Hulk.
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5:22PM on 10/13/2008

reznorchrist

This news sounds amazing and I'm pumped for it if it actually plays out.

In regards to reznorchrist and "end all spoilers"...it's pretty simple. If there is a news story on Joblo that regards a movie that you HAVEN'T seen, it might make sense for you not to read the story. Yes, I agree that spoilers should be kept out of the headlines so casual browzers (like you and I and several others) don't get spoiled just from simply looking at the site. Yet, I do believe that if Hulk is actually
This news sounds amazing and I'm pumped for it if it actually plays out.

In regards to reznorchrist and "end all spoilers"...it's pretty simple. If there is a news story on Joblo that regards a movie that you HAVEN'T seen, it might make sense for you not to read the story. Yes, I agree that spoilers should be kept out of the headlines so casual browzers (like you and I and several others) don't get spoiled just from simply looking at the site. Yet, I do believe that if Hulk is actually going to be villian in the Avengers that they are probably going to promote the hell out of it and everyone will know prior to the film's release...it won't be a plot twist.

So settle. Stop reading Hulk articles until you've seen the movie.
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5:07PM on 10/13/2008

END ALL SPOILERS

I am sure most won't agree with my opinion, but I have had it with spoilers of any kind. Whether one is warned or not, I have had it. This story revealing the last frame of "Incredible Hulk", while it does not ruin the movie I HAVE NOT YET SEEN - it would have been nice to have not known this. By now I should easily smell a spoiler about to drop like a pile of dung. But this is the best galdarn site in all of movie news, and I won't stop reading your headlines. I can only hope you'll stop
I am sure most won't agree with my opinion, but I have had it with spoilers of any kind. Whether one is warned or not, I have had it. This story revealing the last frame of "Incredible Hulk", while it does not ruin the movie I HAVE NOT YET SEEN - it would have been nice to have not known this. By now I should easily smell a spoiler about to drop like a pile of dung. But this is the best galdarn site in all of movie news, and I won't stop reading your headlines. I can only hope you'll stop posting bits, large or small, that could potentially ruin films for people. Now let the hate on me commence.
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5:04PM on 10/13/2008
This sounds like an epic battle. I dig the idea with Hulk being hunted by other super heroes.

deja vu called it with their post and user name!
This sounds like an epic battle. I dig the idea with Hulk being hunted by other super heroes.

deja vu called it with their post and user name!
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4:49PM on 10/13/2008
i think that would work wondefully, it worked in the Ultimates comics which the avengers movie seems to be leaning towards
i think that would work wondefully, it worked in the Ultimates comics which the avengers movie seems to be leaning towards
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4:38PM on 10/13/2008

Well spiffy

It makes a lot of sense. They'd have to change some shiz of course.

But um... Seems a bit familiar, as others posted. I was partially expecting that.

It makes a lot of sense. They'd have to change some shiz of course.

But um... Seems a bit familiar, as others posted. I was partially expecting that.

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4:32PM on 10/13/2008
wasnt that the story of the avengers vs hulk back in the 60s? the hulk was being tracked heading to nyc and the avengers teamed up with the ff to fight the hulk. massive nyc demolition ensued.
wasnt that the story of the avengers vs hulk back in the 60s? the hulk was being tracked heading to nyc and the avengers teamed up with the ff to fight the hulk. massive nyc demolition ensued.
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4:31PM on 10/13/2008
you dont have to have the ultimate outcome being the hulk becoming a hero. in the first film it would be a better choice to have them chasing down the hulk for the bulk of the movie and have him captured in the end, imprisoned and sentenced for his distruction and possibly even for a murder or two.

then in a second film you can have a new villain, doesnt really matter which one, and have the avengers get in a pickle that they cant seem to get out of on their own, here we bring in the hulk,
you dont have to have the ultimate outcome being the hulk becoming a hero. in the first film it would be a better choice to have them chasing down the hulk for the bulk of the movie and have him captured in the end, imprisoned and sentenced for his distruction and possibly even for a murder or two.

then in a second film you can have a new villain, doesnt really matter which one, and have the avengers get in a pickle that they cant seem to get out of on their own, here we bring in the hulk, making him the hero he is meant to be.

so in a two picture deal we get the hulk as a hero, and eliminate the need for two villains in the first film, thus eliminating the x3/spiderman 3 syndrome or too many characters in a movie that will already have its share of characters to push the story along.

wow that took a lot to say just to address the post before mine. now then, I think hulk as a villain would be great, bring it on. bruce banner has many a reason to oppose the [link]
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4:20PM on 10/13/2008

May need more than just Hulk

I think it could work, but then again the ending risks being a foregone conclusion. You need an epic foe like the Hulk, but ultimately we know the Hulk ends up a hero, so it limits your story outcome. Personally I'd like to see something like Annihilus
I think it could work, but then again the ending risks being a foregone conclusion. You need an epic foe like the Hulk, but ultimately we know the Hulk ends up a hero, so it limits your story outcome. Personally I'd like to see something like Annihilus
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4:16PM on 10/13/2008

the incredible villain

This is an awsome idea to kick off the Avengers film, besides, he's been known for going up against numerous Marvel hereoes if not all of them, this would be perfect fo the first film.
This is an awsome idea to kick off the Avengers film, besides, he's been known for going up against numerous Marvel hereoes if not all of them, this would be perfect fo the first film.
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4:10PM on 10/13/2008
A very radical idea that might actually work. And I love the extra tidbit of this one.
A very radical idea that might actually work. And I love the extra tidbit of this one.
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3:53PM on 10/13/2008
Awesome idea.
Awesome idea.
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3:36PM on 10/13/2008
Why define him as the villain?

Have every side iron man/hulk/etc take turn, each with his own motives and let the audience decide!
Why define him as the villain?

Have every side iron man/hulk/etc take turn, each with his own motives and let the audience decide!
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3:33PM on 10/13/2008

In the comics...


The Hulk was brainwashed by Loki into turning on the Avengers. They could do this in the movie. And having Loki there could lead into Thor's movie (if it's to come out after Avengers?). Thor could cameo by helping out the Avengers in trying to take down Hulk.

But the Hulk turning 'bad' would best work as a plot that builds up throughout the film; Loki pulling strings from the start.

The Avengers could spend the movie taking out Hydra or AIM cells, as we the audience get to know the

The Hulk was brainwashed by Loki into turning on the Avengers. They could do this in the movie. And having Loki there could lead into Thor's movie (if it's to come out after Avengers?). Thor could cameo by helping out the Avengers in trying to take down Hulk.

But the Hulk turning 'bad' would best work as a plot that builds up throughout the film; Loki pulling strings from the start.

The Avengers could spend the movie taking out Hydra or AIM cells, as we the audience get to know the characters.

And again, having Hydra there could come from the back of Captain America's movie, if the Red Skull and Hydra are used there.

So many possibilites...
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3:21PM on 10/13/2008
Well, this was expected. Nothing new here, although I think it's gonna be hard to get Norton to do this ...
Well, this was expected. Nothing new here, although I think it's gonna be hard to get Norton to do this ...
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3:19PM on 10/13/2008
I like the idea of the assembled Avengers having to put the Hulk down at some point in the film, because let's face it -- Hulk SMASH! But I hope he isn't the major threat to the team, because let's face it -- Hulk just want to be left alone. I wanna see Kang or Ultron or... hell, I dunno. The Masters of Evil? You could tie that into the Cap movie pretty good, with Zemo and all.
I like the idea of the assembled Avengers having to put the Hulk down at some point in the film, because let's face it -- Hulk SMASH! But I hope he isn't the major threat to the team, because let's face it -- Hulk just want to be left alone. I wanna see Kang or Ultron or... hell, I dunno. The Masters of Evil? You could tie that into the Cap movie pretty good, with Zemo and all.
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3:17PM on 10/13/2008
Hulk as the villain? Blegh. If they wanted to spend the first part of the movie chasing down the big guy and convincing him that he should join the Avengers to put his powers to good use, that's one thing. But if he turns out to actually be the "villain" of the piece ... fuck that. There's only one logical choice for the "Avengers" villain, and that's Ultron.
Hulk as the villain? Blegh. If they wanted to spend the first part of the movie chasing down the big guy and convincing him that he should join the Avengers to put his powers to good use, that's one thing. But if he turns out to actually be the "villain" of the piece ... fuck that. There's only one logical choice for the "Avengers" villain, and that's Ultron.
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3:02PM on 10/13/2008

Thats the best way to connect the whole story

If they are trying to make a story that creates the Marvel Universe as a real living thing, then this is the best idea on earth. IF they want to make a bunch of crap toys and see where they can go with the characters over the next 200 years in film then they wont and we'll get some kind of messed up half assed movie in the end. The Avengers aren't cool as a group and there villains all suck. Or at least would be really cheesy on film. This is the best thing they can do. Have the most powerful
If they are trying to make a story that creates the Marvel Universe as a real living thing, then this is the best idea on earth. IF they want to make a bunch of crap toys and see where they can go with the characters over the next 200 years in film then they wont and we'll get some kind of messed up half assed movie in the end. The Avengers aren't cool as a group and there villains all suck. Or at least would be really cheesy on film. This is the best thing they can do. Have the most powerful combined fighting group face the most powerful being we have seen in a marvel film.

And please lets just forget the Silver Surfer and whatever that cloud really was. I know someone is going to want to fight on my “most powerful” statement and using the fantastic four movies as a bridge to build an argument with isn’t worth the effort.
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2:47PM on 10/13/2008

YESSSS!

In my opinion this is the best and most obvious choice. I don't know if the Hulk/Bruce Banner could carry the entire movie as a villain but this should certainly be the climax. Maybe include another conflict/villain that acts as a catalyst to the Hulk turning on the Avengers towards the end. Anyone who saw the animated Avengers movie knows that the final fight scene with the Hulk was the only redeeming quality about that flick. Just thinking about that scene in live action is ridiculously
In my opinion this is the best and most obvious choice. I don't know if the Hulk/Bruce Banner could carry the entire movie as a villain but this should certainly be the climax. Maybe include another conflict/villain that acts as a catalyst to the Hulk turning on the Avengers towards the end. Anyone who saw the animated Avengers movie knows that the final fight scene with the Hulk was the only redeeming quality about that flick. Just thinking about that scene in live action is ridiculously awesome.
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