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Idris Elba would love to play James Bond but he won't campaign for the role

Jul. 11, 2013by: Jesse Giroux

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Who doesn't love Idris Elba? He's done some fantastic work in television and film, and hopefully his popularity really explodes when PACIFIC RIM opens Friday. The actor also has THOR: THE DARK WORLD and the Nelson Mandela biography MANDELA: LONG WALK TO FREEDOM out this year and his crime drama NO GOOD DEED will be in theaters next year.

But what about those James Bond rumors? Daniel Craig will be back for at least one (maybe two) more films, but what about after that? Is Elba even interested in playing 007?

In an interview with Digital Spy, the actor was asked about the Bond rumors and if there was any truth to them:

It's not something that I actually hope to come to fruition. It would be lovely if it did, but it's a rumor. It's actually like the will of a nation type-thing. I'm not a champion of myself to be James Bond, but there are so many people who say, 'Hey, you'd be a great one. We'd love to see that'. That's a great feeling for me. That's such a national treasure for us in England, we love James Bond. To be considered as one of those actors who could play him is great.

To me it sounds like Idris Elba doesn't want to get his hopes up or focus too much on speculations and rumors at this point. If Daniel Craig signs on for two more films it will be awhile before it's Elba's turn to wear the legendary tuxedo, and by then he might be too busy with other projects. Still, since he is a British actor I'm pretty sure Elba will put almost any film on hold if it means he'll get a chance to play the classic character.

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9:20PM on 07/22/2013

WTF?!

Are you on crack, you m***F*** racist. Who cares if JB is black or white. Go back to your KKK fire pit and keep roasting your marshmallows. Leave the filmmaking to the professionals.
Are you on crack, you m***F*** racist. Who cares if JB is black or white. Go back to your KKK fire pit and keep roasting your marshmallows. Leave the filmmaking to the professionals.
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1:58AM on 07/26/2013
You act like you think you know what you are talking about. Yet you instantly throw insults around when none were thrown in your direction or in any direction rather. Did you even read part one of what i said? Probably not you just saw i disagreed and that was enough. But if you would read carefully enough, you would of saw that I said that if it were to happen, they would need to retire the old James Bond and state that it because of how good James has been it will now be a code name, because
You act like you think you know what you are talking about. Yet you instantly throw insults around when none were thrown in your direction or in any direction rather. Did you even read part one of what i said? Probably not you just saw i disagreed and that was enough. But if you would read carefully enough, you would of saw that I said that if it were to happen, they would need to retire the old James Bond and state that it because of how good James has been it will now be a code name, because he is in fact supposed to be the same character in all the movies. Different faces but that same one guy. So once you obtain some knowledge about James Bond then come back and we will have a civilized discussion. Until then practice learning how to make a point without swearing. It makes you sound uneducated.
6:55PM on 07/13/2013

Bond

First off idris Elba great actor but James Bond, no and never. The black thing has to be said, Bond is not black never was never will be. Unless they flat out say the original bond is retired and it is now going to be used as a code name. To a few of you who think he's a different person throughout the movies read below to see proof front the movies themselves.

All right, here are the clues that prove that the different agent/code name are BS

According to it, Bond 2 (Lazenby) had
First off idris Elba great actor but James Bond, no and never. The black thing has to be said, Bond is not black never was never will be. Unless they flat out say the original bond is retired and it is now going to be used as a code name. To a few of you who think he's a different person throughout the movies read below to see proof front the movies themselves.

All right, here are the clues that prove that the different agent/code name are BS

According to it, Bond 2 (Lazenby) had replaced Bond 1 in OHMSS. All well and good, except for one thing: when Bond 2 clears his office after presenting his resignation, why does he pick up mementoes from Bond 1's missions, and more importantly, why does he reminisce about them? The answer is because he lived them, that's why. After all, i doubt very much that Bond 1 would have mentioned which song Honey Ryder sung when he met her.

Bond 3 replacing Bond 1 and 2? I could accept it,except for two things: a) Anya Amasova mentions Bond's trragic marriage, and Bond reacts rather bluntly, in TSWLM, a reaction he wouldn't have if that tragedy hadn't happend to him. Furthermore, in FYEO, we see him visiting his wife's grave. So, Bond 3 is Bond 2, who we've established is Bond 1.

As for Bond 4, I could believe he would have replaced Bond 3, except for one little detail: if we admit that Bond is a code name, we have to admit also that Leiter is a codename as well. Then, why would Leiter 5 invite Bond 4 to be his best man in LTK, when the only Bond he would have met is Bond 3? Furthermore, another mention of Bond's wedding is made, in a nice bit of foreshadowing. So, Bond 4 is Bond 2 and 3.

Bond 5? Let's see: when we first meet him, he's in a mission in the Soviet Union. That means a mission that must have taken place when the USSR was still alive, which means when Bond 3 and 4 were active. Furthermore, in DAD, he shows a good knowledge of gadgets used by Bond 1 (the rocket pack, and more importantly the rebreather used in TB). Which is a clue that he is in fact Bond 1, 3 and 4.

Which means that James Bond is the same James Bond during the first 20 movies of the series, as for bond 21 and 22 they could be a different story line but skyfall brings them back to the previous 20 missions being tied in with each other. From the headstones on his parents graves, to king kade calling him by James Bond. To the shotgun with the initials on it just to name a few, Skyfall follows DAD. . QED.
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6:58PM on 07/13/2013
I'm not at all being racist these are facts in the films. That can't be overlooked. I'm sure ill get persecuted for it like everyone else who said no
I'm not at all being racist these are facts in the films. That can't be overlooked. I'm sure ill get persecuted for it like everyone else who said no
3:30PM on 07/22/2013
Usually when people say 'I'm not trying to be racist' they go ahead and say something racist. Too, people who 'think' they aren't racist, have the tendency to unconsciously be racist.

With that said, it's up to the producers. There may be a lot of naysayers, but if the producers put him in the role with a good script and director, he WILL be James Bond despite what is said on a message board.
Usually when people say 'I'm not trying to be racist' they go ahead and say something racist. Too, people who 'think' they aren't racist, have the tendency to unconsciously be racist.

With that said, it's up to the producers. There may be a lot of naysayers, but if the producers put him in the role with a good script and director, he WILL be James Bond despite what is said on a message board.
2:11AM on 07/26/2013
Joel i agree with what you said ,It is up to the producers 100 percent, I truly don't think he has a chance to be Bond. Reason number 1 is AGE., seeing when Craig is done with role, Elba would almost 50. Which most people would agree is way too old to start off playing Bond. He would look his age from the start and be a one movie and done. They will sign someone in his mid to late 30s, so they can get a few movies out of him.
You are right, USUALLY when you start off by saying that it is a
Joel i agree with what you said ,It is up to the producers 100 percent, I truly don't think he has a chance to be Bond. Reason number 1 is AGE., seeing when Craig is done with role, Elba would almost 50. Which most people would agree is way too old to start off playing Bond. He would look his age from the start and be a one movie and done. They will sign someone in his mid to late 30s, so they can get a few movies out of him.
You are right, USUALLY when you start off by saying that it is a racist comment but if you look what i wrote I didn't say anything racist following me saying "I am not at all being racist". Was just pointing out my facts that James Bond is the same person in all of the films, if they can be disputed i'll listen, but it would be cause if someone actually watches the films they too will see that he is the same person throughout at least 21 of the films.
CR and QOS are kind on its own timeline. James Bond can be black all he wants(im not sure it would go over very well initially but I am sure ppl would come around if it was done well) It would NEED to state the former Bond has retired and for his excellent service, his name is going to be a code name to make sense with all the other films. Put that 2-3 min discussion in the film and I am fine with it.
11:50AM on 07/12/2013

SHIT IDEA LIKE A STUDIO EXEC CAME UP WITH IT

Skyfall made over 1bil. HOW?
By paying attention to story and hiring a director who had character development in mind.
A few throwbacks to original source material on BOND's ACTUAL ORIGIN and people LOVED IT.
NO TO ONE TRICK PONYS or just go ahead and bring back DALTON days.
Skyfall made over 1bil. HOW?
By paying attention to story and hiring a director who had character development in mind.
A few throwbacks to original source material on BOND's ACTUAL ORIGIN and people LOVED IT.
NO TO ONE TRICK PONYS or just go ahead and bring back DALTON days.
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8:28AM on 07/12/2013
If you haven't seen The Wire then you haven't seen what could be the best TV series of all time. Crawl back under that rock!
If you haven't seen The Wire then you haven't seen what could be the best TV series of all time. Crawl back under that rock!
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1:20AM on 07/12/2013

Fuck it...y not

I like Idris. I still like Daniel as bond though as well. It will just be kinda weird how Bond turned into a black guy.
I like Idris. I still like Daniel as bond though as well. It will just be kinda weird how Bond turned into a black guy.
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11:16PM on 07/11/2013
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"This I can get behind. I've always liked the theory of each different bond is actually a different person just taking over a code name. I'd welcome a black bond."
That's a really interesting way to look at it.
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"This I can get behind. I've always liked the theory of each different bond is actually a different person just taking over a code name. I'd welcome a black bond."
That's a really interesting way to look at it.
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10:19PM on 07/11/2013
Nope. Nope. Nope.
Bond villain? Perfect. Bond? Not so much.
Nope. Nope. Nope.
Bond villain? Perfect. Bond? Not so much.
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9:54PM on 07/11/2013
No.
No.
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2:35PM on 07/12/2013
wrong. But you've made a brilliant argument nonetheless.
wrong. But you've made a brilliant argument nonetheless.
9:03PM on 07/11/2013
I could see him more as being a bond villain than as bond himself. We all know bond has done a lot of nasty stuff in Africa. Its only a matter of time before one his mistakes will come back to haunt him.
I could see him more as being a bond villain than as bond himself. We all know bond has done a lot of nasty stuff in Africa. Its only a matter of time before one his mistakes will come back to haunt him.
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8:57PM on 07/11/2013
I'm surprised of the support for Elba on this site, I guess he is just that awesome. I think he would be a great choice, no reason James Bond has to be white, we've had enough white Bonds about time we shake it up.
I'm surprised of the support for Elba on this site, I guess he is just that awesome. I think he would be a great choice, no reason James Bond has to be white, we've had enough white Bonds about time we shake it up.
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8:23PM on 07/11/2013
sort of derails the continuum that all of the 6 Bonds are the same guy
sort of derails the continuum that all of the 6 Bonds are the same guy
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11:17PM on 07/11/2013
What? Daniel Craig is clearly a different Bond.
What? Daniel Craig is clearly a different Bond.
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7:09PM on 07/11/2013
If asked to choose between whether Bond had to be black...or Parker...gay...I'd go with a black Bond. So that proves I'm not racist... just homophobic...I guess. Of course, ignore my reasonings for not making Parker gay (fundamental changes to his relationships with Gwen, MJ and the Black Cat - major, major parts of his life) if you will. I would prefer my main protagonists to remain whatever race and gender I knew them as...but if it's means choosing between a superficial change and a change
If asked to choose between whether Bond had to be black...or Parker...gay...I'd go with a black Bond. So that proves I'm not racist... just homophobic...I guess. Of course, ignore my reasonings for not making Parker gay (fundamental changes to his relationships with Gwen, MJ and the Black Cat - major, major parts of his life) if you will. I would prefer my main protagonists to remain whatever race and gender I knew them as...but if it's means choosing between a superficial change and a change that actually requires fundamental alternations to the characters life events, I'll opt to protect the latter. Someone asked would people be happy with Blade and Shaft being played by white actors - by the same logic, there's no reason why Blade couldn't be played by a white actor...but changing Shaft's race would surely require a major change to the character's background and then surely we're just dealing with another character who just happens to be called Shaft. Incidentally, would Bonds Scottish affluent up bringing in a manor, prior to becoming an orphan need to be changed should he change race? I dont know how important that aspect of Bonds life is the whole character, but its one I really enjoyed being explored in Skyfall given that I've never known what his history is. It would be difficult to see a black person having that particular background...perhaps change the location and social status?
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7:06PM on 07/11/2013

Why not?

Idris is great in anything he'd make a great Bond but I also agree if he'd replace Craig the time is now, who knows what's going in the market 2 or 3 films from now, maybe a younger guy is the hot ticket then.
Idris is great in anything he'd make a great Bond but I also agree if he'd replace Craig the time is now, who knows what's going in the market 2 or 3 films from now, maybe a younger guy is the hot ticket then.
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7:04PM on 07/11/2013

Got no problem with a black Bond if...

He's got the right attitude for the role. A female Bond on the other hand, well that's a garbage idea. The Bond character is essentially a heterosexual male. He's a caveman with a refined exterior. Take away his overblown heterosexual male characteristics and he's not Bond.
He's got the right attitude for the role. A female Bond on the other hand, well that's a garbage idea. The Bond character is essentially a heterosexual male. He's a caveman with a refined exterior. Take away his overblown heterosexual male characteristics and he's not Bond.
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11:19PM on 07/11/2013
I disagree. I'd be all for a female Bond, I think it'd be really interesting to explore. Keep the character the same, keep the libido the same, keep the attitude the same, but apply it to a woman. Awesome.
I disagree. I'd be all for a female Bond, I think it'd be really interesting to explore. Keep the character the same, keep the libido the same, keep the attitude the same, but apply it to a woman. Awesome.
5:46PM on 07/11/2013
By the time Craig's done with the next 2 Bonds, Elba will be pushing 50. So probably not a great idea, but if the plan is to do only 1 or 2 with him it might work.
By the time Craig's done with the next 2 Bonds, Elba will be pushing 50. So probably not a great idea, but if the plan is to do only 1 or 2 with him it might work.
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5:44PM on 07/11/2013
It's 2013 and people still can't grasp this idea?
And to some of you - no, Bond was not written as a WHITE male, he was written as a MALE and that's it. Was he always portrayed as white? Sure, just like most if not all the Birtish agents at the time of his inception were white, but the times have changed, even if you stay the same. If they kept this series a period piece, dealing with Cold War, it would be stupid to change his skin color but this is a constantly evolving franchise. If his
It's 2013 and people still can't grasp this idea?
And to some of you - no, Bond was not written as a WHITE male, he was written as a MALE and that's it. Was he always portrayed as white? Sure, just like most if not all the Birtish agents at the time of his inception were white, but the times have changed, even if you stay the same. If they kept this series a period piece, dealing with Cold War, it would be stupid to change his skin color but this is a constantly evolving franchise. If his gadgets can be upgraded why not his appearance? That's why a black James Bond isn't really that out of the ordinary. Actually he might be a little but for different reasons. If they really wanted to make him modern, he should probably be middle-eastern, since I'm guessing that's the region of the world where most of the international espionage might happen and the British probably have a lot of agents that could blend in in that part of the world.
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4:15PM on 07/11/2013
It's fascinating reading people's protestations and their reasoning, as most actually believe they have a reasonable, sound foundation for insisting Bond be white, not black. The problem is, these individuals don't see the problem. It's racist, plain and simple. Bond is a fictional character, a character that has been played by *many* different actors at this point. The fact that so many are insisting he cannot be black just shows how far we still have to come to reach equality, in general, in
It's fascinating reading people's protestations and their reasoning, as most actually believe they have a reasonable, sound foundation for insisting Bond be white, not black. The problem is, these individuals don't see the problem. It's racist, plain and simple. Bond is a fictional character, a character that has been played by *many* different actors at this point. The fact that so many are insisting he cannot be black just shows how far we still have to come to reach equality, in general, in this country. It's incredibly sad.
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4:27PM on 07/11/2013
Get out of your basement and join the real world, people of all different races have been coexisting peacefully for your entire lifetime. This has nothing to do with racism... It has to do with wanting to bank on the name of character, changing that character into something completely different than what its creator intended and than marketing the "re-imaging" of the character based on the originals success.

If studios were creative enough they would simply create new and original
Get out of your basement and join the real world, people of all different races have been coexisting peacefully for your entire lifetime. This has nothing to do with racism... It has to do with wanting to bank on the name of character, changing that character into something completely different than what its creator intended and than marketing the "re-imaging" of the character based on the originals success.

If studios were creative enough they would simply create new and original characters, ones that are not banking on the success of decades old characters. What is incredibly sad here is your ignorance to reality, this has nothing to do with racism, stop calling the race card when their is no one here saying anything against Elba, his talent or his ability to act. He just simply is not James Bond, same as Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt should never be asked to play Blade, or Shaft.
2:33PM on 07/12/2013
wow, Mr Kutz, way to walk right into boynamed...'s point and bring it to life:

It's fascinating reading people's protestations and their reasoning, as most actually believe they have a reasonable, sound foundation for insisting Bond be white, not black.

do you not see how different Sean Connery, Roger Moore, Daniel Craig and the rest are aside from being white guys? And do you not see how Idris embodies the swagger, smarts and every other quality Bond has besides being portrayed by white
wow, Mr Kutz, way to walk right into boynamed...'s point and bring it to life:

It's fascinating reading people's protestations and their reasoning, as most actually believe they have a reasonable, sound foundation for insisting Bond be white, not black.

do you not see how different Sean Connery, Roger Moore, Daniel Craig and the rest are aside from being white guys? And do you not see how Idris embodies the swagger, smarts and every other quality Bond has besides being portrayed by white guys until now?
3:36PM on 07/11/2013
He'll be older than Daniel Craig is now when the time comes. I just don't think the age is right. Also, is it just me or is Idris Elba totally becoming the new Nathan Fillion? Seems people bring his name up for everything lately.
He'll be older than Daniel Craig is now when the time comes. I just don't think the age is right. Also, is it just me or is Idris Elba totally becoming the new Nathan Fillion? Seems people bring his name up for everything lately.
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3:05PM on 07/11/2013
I'm in no rush to push Daniel Craig out of the Bond franchise. When the time comes, I'd have no problem with Idris Elba...in fact, I'd rather see him than Fassbender...yes, I said that.
I'm in no rush to push Daniel Craig out of the Bond franchise. When the time comes, I'd have no problem with Idris Elba...in fact, I'd rather see him than Fassbender...yes, I said that.
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2:07PM on 07/11/2013
In the end if Elba got the role I'd still be thrilled cause I love the man. However at this point unless Michael Fassbender says no, he's the next Bond.
In the end if Elba got the role I'd still be thrilled cause I love the man. However at this point unless Michael Fassbender says no, he's the next Bond.
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2:31PM on 07/11/2013
The fact is that until all the racists like ElderPredator have long since been dead and buried, this non-issue will always be an issue. I just hope that someone with actual control over Bond is a little more evolved.
The fact is that until all the racists like ElderPredator have long since been dead and buried, this non-issue will always be an issue. I just hope that someone with actual control over Bond is a little more evolved.
2:33PM on 07/11/2013
Piss off douchebag, you're one of the typical social retards that automatically just think it's because I don't like black people. Go crawl back in your hole.
Piss off douchebag, you're one of the typical social retards that automatically just think it's because I don't like black people. Go crawl back in your hole.
2:35PM on 07/11/2013
Your hostility makes you sound defensive. Just take a deep breath, remember that at least Indiana Jones will always be white and get back to spitting on the grave of Frederick Douglass.
Your hostility makes you sound defensive. Just take a deep breath, remember that at least Indiana Jones will always be white and get back to spitting on the grave of Frederick Douglass.
2:38PM on 07/11/2013
You don't know hostility dude, I was being kind. I don't need your acceptance nor your approval. If you want to play the easy race card instead of opening for debate, you can go right ahead.
You don't know hostility dude, I was being kind. I don't need your acceptance nor your approval. If you want to play the easy race card instead of opening for debate, you can go right ahead.
1:42PM on 07/11/2013
The blatant racism & homophobia thats being posted in the strike backs is beyond embarassing. So & so must be white. So & so is not gay or can't be a woman. I mean who cares really?
The blatant racism & homophobia thats being posted in the strike backs is beyond embarassing. So & so must be white. So & so is not gay or can't be a woman. I mean who cares really?
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1:45PM on 07/11/2013
Love that you automatically call it racism and homophobia. If you don't care then don't comment.
Love that you automatically call it racism and homophobia. If you don't care then don't comment.
2:34PM on 07/11/2013
So its racist and homophobic to want to maintain the original creation of a character that has been around for decades??? Grow up and get yourself a reality check!
So its racist and homophobic to want to maintain the original creation of a character that has been around for decades??? Grow up and get yourself a reality check!
4:06PM on 07/11/2013
Scorpio has every right to comment on the reactions the community is having.

Until people can give legitimate reasons as to why a character like James Bond can't be Black, it's going to keep coming off as racism etc.
Characters that have been around as long as James Bond have undergone many changes and alterations and the franchises still keep on churning. Adding a little color will not destroy anything and when someone like Idris Elba knocks the role out of the park, these pointless
Scorpio has every right to comment on the reactions the community is having.

Until people can give legitimate reasons as to why a character like James Bond can't be Black, it's going to keep coming off as racism etc.
Characters that have been around as long as James Bond have undergone many changes and alterations and the franchises still keep on churning. Adding a little color will not destroy anything and when someone like Idris Elba knocks the role out of the park, these pointless aversions due to race will be revealed for what they really are. If you are such a "purist" then you should be against every film adaptation around right now.
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1:27PM on 07/11/2013

Just one problem though...

James Bond is white!
James Bond is white!
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3:57PM on 07/11/2013
so what? James Bond should only be from the Cold War! James Bond is not blonde! James Bond is Sean Connery!
It's all arbitrary dude, the man doesn't exist and it does nothing to alter his purpose or integrity by changing his skin color because his "white-ness" doesn't have anything to do with what makes him James Bond.

Try something new, you might even like it. Daniel Craig's whiteness sure saved Quantum from being a bad movie...oh wait
so what? James Bond should only be from the Cold War! James Bond is not blonde! James Bond is Sean Connery!
It's all arbitrary dude, the man doesn't exist and it does nothing to alter his purpose or integrity by changing his skin color because his "white-ness" doesn't have anything to do with what makes him James Bond.

Try something new, you might even like it. Daniel Craig's whiteness sure saved Quantum from being a bad movie...oh wait
4:14PM on 07/11/2013
Lol ya like lets make James bond a nunchuck wielding ninja from Iceland. His parents can be half African and half Iranian....

Your argument sounds like you would like to use the existing brand of a successful, decades old character to sell a new character. If you want to see a black James Bond then do not use Bonds stigma to sell tickets. Create an original, new character with his or hers own origin story. Something to make this character stand out and maybe 30 years from now when people
Lol ya like lets make James bond a nunchuck wielding ninja from Iceland. His parents can be half African and half Iranian....

Your argument sounds like you would like to use the existing brand of a successful, decades old character to sell a new character. If you want to see a black James Bond then do not use Bonds stigma to sell tickets. Create an original, new character with his or hers own origin story. Something to make this character stand out and maybe 30 years from now when people want to change the character to a white guy you'll get the big picture.
4:39PM on 07/11/2013
Wow dude, you really aren't getting it.
Yea I would like to see a Black James Bond exactly BECAUSE it would be the same character. You've been so brainwashed into thinking that unless he is shuckin' and jivin' and riding in a purple cadillac then there is no point in making him Black. Hollywood has force-fed racial stereotypes since it's inception and it can be a VERY meaningful step forward towards disintegrating stereotype-driven media by showing someone like Idris Elba play the character of
Wow dude, you really aren't getting it.
Yea I would like to see a Black James Bond exactly BECAUSE it would be the same character. You've been so brainwashed into thinking that unless he is shuckin' and jivin' and riding in a purple cadillac then there is no point in making him Black. Hollywood has force-fed racial stereotypes since it's inception and it can be a VERY meaningful step forward towards disintegrating stereotype-driven media by showing someone like Idris Elba play the character of James Bond. Once more people see that Idris Elba inhabits that qualities of James Bond without ::gasp:: getting his blackness on the role, the general audience will begin to realize that actors' ability and appeal will stem from their talent and not from how marketable they are to predetermined demographics.

Absolutely NOTHING that James Bond has done since his departure from the Cold War era has been crucial to defining his character as white. It is completely reasonable for such a capable British actor such as Idris Elba to embody the role.
British. Charm. Handsome. Athletic. Masculine. That's about what you need and Idris has got them in spades.

People who don't see the HUGE error in comparing this to Hollywood whitewashing (which has already gone on for decades) clearly are missing the point entirely and aren't properly equipped to comment on the subject.
5:49PM on 07/11/2013
@Mr. Kurtz: Yeah dude you're taking it waaaaay too far now.
@Mr. Kurtz: Yeah dude you're taking it waaaaay too far now.
2:37PM on 07/12/2013
and what color is his hair?
and what color is his hair?
12:45PM on 07/11/2013
The next Bond should be a woman.

Oh, sorry, I thought I was on a 'Doctor Who' board for a moment.

Okay, next Bond is a lesbian, just so that it can still be said that Bond gets all the hot babes.
The next Bond should be a woman.

Oh, sorry, I thought I was on a 'Doctor Who' board for a moment.

Okay, next Bond is a lesbian, just so that it can still be said that Bond gets all the hot babes.
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12:39PM on 07/11/2013
Not sure what the big deal is regarding Bond being black. There is certainly nothing about his character which means he needs to be white. Bond is an interesting iconic character in that the right actor, regardless of skin color can inhabit the role. If the nay-sayers are trying to compare this to casting Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm in FF, I think it's actually two different situations. Bond is a solo action hero, as long as he's british, well built, and pull off the suave personality
Not sure what the big deal is regarding Bond being black. There is certainly nothing about his character which means he needs to be white. Bond is an interesting iconic character in that the right actor, regardless of skin color can inhabit the role. If the nay-sayers are trying to compare this to casting Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm in FF, I think it's actually two different situations. Bond is a solo action hero, as long as he's british, well built, and pull off the suave personality you have your Bond - race is not an important factor. Whereas with Johnny Storm, changing the race of his color actually affects the story as well - if you change his skin color you need to change the skin color of another character (Sue Storm). And if you choose not to change the skin color of Sue Storm, then you've changed much of the basis of the story due to character relationships.
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12:34PM on 07/11/2013
Not sure what the big deal is regarding Bond being black. There is certainly nothing about his character which means he needs to be white. Bond is an interesting iconic character in that the right actor, regardless of skin color can inhabit the role. If the nay-sayers are trying to compare this to casting Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm in FF, I think it's actually two different situations. Bond is a solo action hero, as long as he's british, well built, and pull off the suave personality
Not sure what the big deal is regarding Bond being black. There is certainly nothing about his character which means he needs to be white. Bond is an interesting iconic character in that the right actor, regardless of skin color can inhabit the role. If the nay-sayers are trying to compare this to casting Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm in FF, I think it's actually two different situations. Bond is a solo action hero, as long as he's british, well built, and pull off the suave personality you have your Bond - race is not an important factor. Whereas with Johnny Storm, changing the race of his color actually affects the story as well - if you change his skin color you need to change the skin color of another character (Sue Storm). And if you choose not to change the skin color of Sue Storm, then you've changed much of the basis of the story due to character relationships.
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12:24PM on 07/11/2013
Idris Elba would make a cool James Bond, following the awesomeness of Daniel Craig(especially if he -Elba - was supported by a good director and good script).....
Idris Elba would make a cool James Bond, following the awesomeness of Daniel Craig(especially if he -Elba - was supported by a good director and good script).....
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12:21PM on 07/11/2013
Not sure why posts objecting having James Bond not be black are getting thumbs down and in some quarters... going by the reaction on the Spider-Man story - accusations of being a racist and/or homophobic. I've enjoyed the characters of Blade, Luke Cage, Captain Jack Harkness or Agron (from Spartacus) enormously. I'd have reservations if these characters were changed in later incarnations. I was left very disappointed with the treatment of The Mandarin in Iron Man 3 such was the different
Not sure why posts objecting having James Bond not be black are getting thumbs down and in some quarters... going by the reaction on the Spider-Man story - accusations of being a racist and/or homophobic. I've enjoyed the characters of Blade, Luke Cage, Captain Jack Harkness or Agron (from Spartacus) enormously. I'd have reservations if these characters were changed in later incarnations. I was left very disappointed with the treatment of The Mandarin in Iron Man 3 such was the different treatment given to him. I'd have a problem with James Bond being black... or Spider-Man being gay because it's simply not characters I grew up with (and became a fan of). If you want a black 007 have Bond killed off and a new guy (say Idris Elba) replace him - what's wrong with that? How often do we see people complain about the drastic changes in the live action versions of say the Walking Dead or WWZ? I'm not someone who wants a page by page reenactment carried out live action form...but I'd like certain things to stay the same.
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12:11PM on 07/11/2013
Idris Elba should be Black Panther!
Idris Elba should be Black Panther!
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12:04PM on 07/11/2013
if you haven't seen Luther go marathon that shit right now
if you haven't seen Luther go marathon that shit right now
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12:09PM on 07/11/2013
Great show!
Great show!
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11:55AM on 07/11/2013
Double post!! Nothing to see here folks!! Move along!!
Double post!! Nothing to see here folks!! Move along!!
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11:48AM on 07/11/2013
This I can get behind. I've always liked the theory of each different bond is actually a different person just taking over a code name. I'd welcome a black bond.
This I can get behind. I've always liked the theory of each different bond is actually a different person just taking over a code name. I'd welcome a black bond.
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4:31PM on 07/11/2013
I like that theory as well, but I tought Skyfall pretty much killed it.
I like that theory as well, but I tought Skyfall pretty much killed it.
11:38AM on 07/11/2013
He'd be a great bond, but if time keeps passing, then we won't get him.
He'd be a great bond, but if time keeps passing, then we won't get him.
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11:06AM on 07/11/2013

He'd be a great Bond but he might be older than what they're looking for

Also, sidenote: we have a British Superman and Batman, an Australian Wolverine... how long until we have an American doing a british accent for MI6?
Also, sidenote: we have a British Superman and Batman, an Australian Wolverine... how long until we have an American doing a british accent for MI6?
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11:08AM on 07/11/2013
i was thinking the same thing. he's in his 40's now, so how will he age by the time Craig retires the tux?
i was thinking the same thing. he's in his 40's now, so how will he age by the time Craig retires the tux?
11:14AM on 07/11/2013
Spider man is also British.
Spider man is also British.
12:01PM on 07/11/2013
American actors and actresses have played british characters before...like a lot of time.
American actors and actresses have played british characters before...like a lot of time.
12:32PM on 07/11/2013
never bond tho
never bond tho
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11:00AM on 07/11/2013
Bond. Stringer Bond.
Bond. Stringer Bond.
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10:36AM on 07/11/2013
I'm sorry but I can't get behind changing the race of the main character. That's like remaking Shaft with a Japanese guy, it just doesn't work. Other characters sure, not the man main himself.

I love Elba as well and he would be the perfect Bond type but for some reason I don't think it would work because that's something that doesn't need to be changed. At this point in his career, Elba needs a new defining character like Black Panther, etc.

I would have this exact same problem if Nicky
I'm sorry but I can't get behind changing the race of the main character. That's like remaking Shaft with a Japanese guy, it just doesn't work. Other characters sure, not the man main himself.

I love Elba as well and he would be the perfect Bond type but for some reason I don't think it would work because that's something that doesn't need to be changed. At this point in his career, Elba needs a new defining character like Black Panther, etc.

I would have this exact same problem if Nicky Fury, Blade, Luke Cage or whoever was played by a white guy. If he or she was created that way, keep them that way.
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11:55AM on 07/11/2013
The reason turning caucasian characters into non-caucasian works is because majority of film characters, comic, etc are caucasian. The only reason they are caucasian is because the majority of people who use to run things are white. We're drifting into a time and place where now thats not the case and non-caucasian have more say and make more of the population. There are no reasons why charachers cant be interpreted with a different skin colour.
The reason turning caucasian characters into non-caucasian works is because majority of film characters, comic, etc are caucasian. The only reason they are caucasian is because the majority of people who use to run things are white. We're drifting into a time and place where now thats not the case and non-caucasian have more say and make more of the population. There are no reasons why charachers cant be interpreted with a different skin colour.
12:19PM on 07/11/2013
That's actually not the reason at all and that's your interpretation so to each his own. And yet people bitch and complain when Jake Gylenhaal is chosen to play a Persian. You think they won't complain when that idea is reversed?
That's actually not the reason at all and that's your interpretation so to each his own. And yet people bitch and complain when Jake Gylenhaal is chosen to play a Persian. You think they won't complain when that idea is reversed?
12:19PM on 07/11/2013
The difference is that Shaft is defined by his skin color so of course it would be strange to cast a Japanese guy. Bond's skin color has never been crucial nor defining of his character so it makes total sense to be more open minded now that general audiences have opened up to allow more and more non-caucasian actors to be in leading roles.

EDIT: You don't see what the difference is when people are whitewashing characters of color vs adding diversification to an overwhelming caucasian
The difference is that Shaft is defined by his skin color so of course it would be strange to cast a Japanese guy. Bond's skin color has never been crucial nor defining of his character so it makes total sense to be more open minded now that general audiences have opened up to allow more and more non-caucasian actors to be in leading roles.

EDIT: You don't see what the difference is when people are whitewashing characters of color vs adding diversification to an overwhelming caucasian presence in western media? People should feel a pang of guilt when Hollywood decides that we haven't evolved enough as a culture to expect someone at least of middle eastern decent to portray a Persian.

With an iconic character like Bond, there is an opportunity to prove through an existing and successful franchise that the majority of our hang ups as a general audience don't need to keep narrowing down our content. It allows the entire medium to move forward by allowing reasonable and justified change.

All you have to do is see a few episodes of Luther and it's easy to see that it's not some conspiracy from the dreaded minority to force feed caucasians some darkness. Idris Elba would embody Bond perfectly, to not consider him because of his skin color is asinine.
12:24PM on 07/11/2013
Shaft is defined by his skin color? No he's not. Just because he's black you're saying now that he can only be black. He's defined by the environment he inhabited. I too think Elba would embody Bond perfectly but I think he'd be better off playing a new character. Bond is just too massive of a character to mess with like that.
Shaft is defined by his skin color? No he's not. Just because he's black you're saying now that he can only be black. He's defined by the environment he inhabited. I too think Elba would embody Bond perfectly but I think he'd be better off playing a new character. Bond is just too massive of a character to mess with like that.
12:47PM on 07/11/2013
O_o Shaft wasn't defined by his skin color, but by his environment?
You mean Harlem? in the 70's? Defending the neighborhood and solving crimes perpetrated by other identifiable ethnic groups that the Man couldn't / wouldn't? Are we talking about the same iconic blaxploitation character or not?
Idk man I think you may have lost track of your argument there...

O_o Shaft wasn't defined by his skin color, but by his environment?
You mean Harlem? in the 70's? Defending the neighborhood and solving crimes perpetrated by other identifiable ethnic groups that the Man couldn't / wouldn't? Are we talking about the same iconic blaxploitation character or not?
Idk man I think you may have lost track of your argument there...

1:21PM on 07/11/2013
But that IS the reason majority of film characters are white, played by white actors/actresses, directed by caucasian directors etc. This happened because the majority of the US population use to be caucasian and when you're the majority Hollywood will pander to you. This is the same reason why Bollywood is filled with Indian actors and actresses and not black or white actors. The US is becoming more diverse and the world is having more of a say and input on American films. That doesnt take
But that IS the reason majority of film characters are white, played by white actors/actresses, directed by caucasian directors etc. This happened because the majority of the US population use to be caucasian and when you're the majority Hollywood will pander to you. This is the same reason why Bollywood is filled with Indian actors and actresses and not black or white actors. The US is becoming more diverse and the world is having more of a say and input on American films. That doesnt take away anything from hollywood but in fact builds it much stronger.

The reason people complained about Jake in Prince of Persia is because you have a majority playing a minority.
1:40PM on 07/11/2013
You guys can believe what you want, that's just my opinion on it. And I'm not arguing Gendo_Ikari, I'm just stating that if a character starts in a certain way, it should always stay that way. If they want to change things, create a new character and a new legacy.

If you think Blade, Luke Cage, Nick Fury, Black Dynamite and every other famous black character could one day be played by a white guy, I'd hugely disagree with you on that as well. But I know you want say that.
You guys can believe what you want, that's just my opinion on it. And I'm not arguing Gendo_Ikari, I'm just stating that if a character starts in a certain way, it should always stay that way. If they want to change things, create a new character and a new legacy.

If you think Blade, Luke Cage, Nick Fury, Black Dynamite and every other famous black character could one day be played by a white guy, I'd hugely disagree with you on that as well. But I know you want say that.
2:18PM on 07/11/2013
How come you're okay with Nick Fury being a black character and not bond? You do know Nick Fury was originally created as a cascasian character. He was white for over 35 years before they changed his skin colour. I'm guessing you either didnt care or only found about the character after he was changed to a black character and became acustom to his skin.
How come you're okay with Nick Fury being a black character and not bond? You do know Nick Fury was originally created as a cascasian character. He was white for over 35 years before they changed his skin colour. I'm guessing you either didnt care or only found about the character after he was changed to a black character and became acustom to his skin.
4:19PM on 07/11/2013
ElderPredator I think you are completely missing the point, but I can't be sure due to your wording.
I AM saying that Blade, Luke Cage, and Black Dynamite (wtf Nick Fury??) should stay Black because they were created to BE black and a MAJOR aspect of their purpose is to be representative of certain ideals attributed to the community they were created for.

I don't think you know what 'argument' means, because you are clearly arguing a point. I'm just 'stating' that by taking a character
ElderPredator I think you are completely missing the point, but I can't be sure due to your wording.
I AM saying that Blade, Luke Cage, and Black Dynamite (wtf Nick Fury??) should stay Black because they were created to BE black and a MAJOR aspect of their purpose is to be representative of certain ideals attributed to the community they were created for.

I don't think you know what 'argument' means, because you are clearly arguing a point. I'm just 'stating' that by taking a character like Bond and showing to the general audience that race doesn't matter it can do a lot more towards acceptance in racial diversity in Hollywood. It's not some Black agenda, it's just the reality that media pushes very specific portrayals of non-whites and it would make great strides towards shattering pointless stereotypes and reservations that people like yourself have of non-whites. Call it what you want, but the kind of reactions that come from stories like this have all the familiar symptoms of racism and it's like that way for a reason.
We should all just be more open minded so that we can make some cultural advancement, rather than just cling to the comfort of our predispositions.
4:30PM on 07/11/2013
I understand what you're saying and maybe I'm not making my point clear but it just seems odd to take a character that has been a Caucasian male for 50 years and was written as a Caucasian male and suddenly change his race. For most other major characters I don't see that being any problem but Bond in particular just seems weird to change like this. I'm not against it, it's just odd.
I understand what you're saying and maybe I'm not making my point clear but it just seems odd to take a character that has been a Caucasian male for 50 years and was written as a Caucasian male and suddenly change his race. For most other major characters I don't see that being any problem but Bond in particular just seems weird to change like this. I'm not against it, it's just odd.
2:49PM on 07/12/2013
did you really just reference Nick Fury? And having a problem if he were played by a white guy?

Edler, the snake is eating it's ail at this point. You've obliterated the shit out of your own point.
did you really just reference Nick Fury? And having a problem if he were played by a white guy?

Edler, the snake is eating it's ail at this point. You've obliterated the shit out of your own point.
10:35AM on 07/11/2013
Elba is a top quality actor. Skyfall proved you can't change Bonds race. It's not a code name it's his actual name. There's no reason they can't make Elba a different 00 agent and do spinoffs if he gets a favorable response, which I'm sure he would.
Elba is a top quality actor. Skyfall proved you can't change Bonds race. It's not a code name it's his actual name. There's no reason they can't make Elba a different 00 agent and do spinoffs if he gets a favorable response, which I'm sure he would.
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10:55AM on 07/11/2013
Skyfall sucked tho. Craig won me over as Bond but his films do not feel like Bond movies. Let's hope the franchise doesn't take its cues from some of its weakest entries (Quantum is legit one of the worst movies i think i've ever seen)
Skyfall sucked tho. Craig won me over as Bond but his films do not feel like Bond movies. Let's hope the franchise doesn't take its cues from some of its weakest entries (Quantum is legit one of the worst movies i think i've ever seen)
11:06AM on 07/11/2013
I believe Daniel Craig was supposed to be a "reboot" of the Bond character. Elba as another 00 agent would be cool, but people want to see him play a character with the specific Bond characteristics (suave, man-slut, etc.). I guess the logic is, if you're going to make another 00 agent character who acts just like Bond, then might as well make him Bond.
I believe Daniel Craig was supposed to be a "reboot" of the Bond character. Elba as another 00 agent would be cool, but people want to see him play a character with the specific Bond characteristics (suave, man-slut, etc.). I guess the logic is, if you're going to make another 00 agent character who acts just like Bond, then might as well make him Bond.
10:15AM on 07/11/2013

He won't be Bond...

which is a kinda sad reality to it, but he would make a great double-0 or even a great villain.
which is a kinda sad reality to it, but he would make a great double-0 or even a great villain.
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9:41AM on 07/11/2013
I'm w Molaram. Black means nothing. Age, unfortunately, does...
I'm w Molaram. Black means nothing. Age, unfortunately, does...
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9:39AM on 07/11/2013
My concern is certainly not his race, but his age. He'll turn 41 this year. Craig is 45, but he has three films under his belt now. I'm concerned about his age going forward as well. The last thing anyone wants is a repeat of the last few Roger Moore films (dude was ancient in those). On the other hand, despite being 45, Craig is still kicking ass and taking names, so it may be a non-issue after all. Go Elba! I'd love to see it!
My concern is certainly not his race, but his age. He'll turn 41 this year. Craig is 45, but he has three films under his belt now. I'm concerned about his age going forward as well. The last thing anyone wants is a repeat of the last few Roger Moore films (dude was ancient in those). On the other hand, despite being 45, Craig is still kicking ass and taking names, so it may be a non-issue after all. Go Elba! I'd love to see it!
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9:31AM on 07/11/2013

As much as I love the guy...

He's a very good actor and quite capable of being Bond, but if you thought people were mad because he was a "BLACK" Heimdal, just wait
He's a very good actor and quite capable of being Bond, but if you thought people were mad because he was a "BLACK" Heimdal, just wait
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9:26AM on 07/11/2013
Having Elba as the next Bond should seriously be considered.
Having Elba as the next Bond should seriously be considered.
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9:11AM on 07/11/2013

Yes

YES. Where do I sign the petition.
YES. Where do I sign the petition.
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9:06AM on 07/11/2013
It'll never happen. Mainly because Michael Fassbender will be the next bond after Craig.
It'll never happen. Mainly because Michael Fassbender will be the next bond after Craig.
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9:24AM on 07/11/2013
Fassbender is too rugged, doesn't have the right look for bond. Plus, getting the role would hold off him being in anything else for a while, so that's a bad thing.
Fassbender is too rugged, doesn't have the right look for bond. Plus, getting the role would hold off him being in anything else for a while, so that's a bad thing.
9:35AM on 07/11/2013
You're saying Craig doesn't look more rugged than prior Bonds??
You're saying Craig doesn't look more rugged than prior Bonds??
9:43AM on 07/11/2013
Craig's face makes Fassbender's look like a cabbage-patch kid's....
Craig's face makes Fassbender's look like a cabbage-patch kid's....
10:24AM on 07/11/2013
To rugged? Wow... Do you know who Michael fassbender is?? Maybe you need to look him up again.
To rugged? Wow... Do you know who Michael fassbender is?? Maybe you need to look him up again.
12:10PM on 07/11/2013
Fassbender would make an excellent Bond. He's maybe the only actor I could see getting the role next based off his current success and age.
Fassbender would make an excellent Bond. He's maybe the only actor I could see getting the role next based off his current success and age.
4:11PM on 07/11/2013
Hang on, Fassbender was in the Fast and the Furious right ?
Hang on, Fassbender was in the Fast and the Furious right ?
9:02AM on 07/11/2013

I'd love to see this happen.

But now comments will flood in about how James Bond shouldn't be black...
But now comments will flood in about how James Bond shouldn't be black...
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9:52AM on 07/11/2013
I don't care about him being black. I just don't want him to be gay.
I don't care about him being black. I just don't want him to be gay.
4:17PM on 07/11/2013
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I'm sure you'd say the same thing about a lot of people. Hopefully you won't have a homosexual child, as I cannot imagine the pain they'd endure being brought up with that logic.
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I'm sure you'd say the same thing about a lot of people. Hopefully you won't have a homosexual child, as I cannot imagine the pain they'd endure being brought up with that logic.
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