INT: John Travolta
Joaquin Phoenix / John Travolta / Robert Patrick
In LADDER 49, John Travolta plays Mike Kennedy, fire chief and mentor to Joaquin Phoenix's character, the earnest neophyte Jack Morrison. Over the course of his short career Morrison develops a unique bond with Kennedy, and when he finds himself trapped at the bottom of a burning building, itís Kennedy who is called in to find a way to get him out.
Travolta is a fun guy to interview, primarily because he
seems to enjoy the process, the give-and-take with the journalists.
Though Iíve never been a huge fan of his work (I am,
however, looking forward to BE COOL), Iíve enjoyed the
opportunities I've had to chat with him.
All too often other actors make it abundantly clear that
theyíd rather be in the dentistís chair than at a roundtable,
but Travolta is always bright and engaging.
He was no different last week when I stopped by the Century
Plaza hotel in Los Angeles for the Ladder 49 junket.
He bounded into the room, shook everyoneís hand and talked
enthusiastically about his latest film.
He also dished a little about BE
COOL and another upcoming project, A
LOVE SONG FOR BOBBY LONG. Check it out.
Was part of the appeal of this movie that it provided you with a supporting instead of a lead role?
Yeah, it was, a little bit. I liked the idea,
because I knew that I could still... when I did Be
difficult was it to act on a walkie-talkie, as you have to do for
much of the film?
Oh my God. You hit the Ė did you ask Joaquin that? Because youíre the only one thatís asked me that, and that is the most challenging part of the whole movie, because it could so easily be one Adam twelve or emergency and when I read it I thought, ďOh God, oh man! How do I make that real?Ē† So what they did was they said, ďLook, to make it seem like something weíve not seen before, weíre going to add reality to it.Ē† So they had the burning building, they had Joaquin off-camera on a walkie-talkie with me. They had all of the layers because I had a graph of emotional heightening to portray with the end of it (being this) selfish choice, do you know what I mean? Ten men or my boy? And I had to do it all by myself with a camera and a microphone, so then they added the faces of the guys coming out, and all of that added to the life of it to some degree. So it was probably the most difficult part of the part.
you go through the firefighter boot camp with the other actors?
Oh gosh yes. I would have anyway, but we were
mandated for it. We had to do it because the director really wanted
us to be safe on the set. They wanted us to be accurate in our
technical knowledge, they wanted us to bond, and thereís no way of
doing that without really experiencing some of that together. He
picked the kind of actors that really are like firemen, meaning
these guys† are all kind of naturally macho, but thereís a
humanity in their presence that is undeniable, which I find that
firefighters have that. You know, the rough and ready guys,
thereís just this heart that bleeds out of them and itís hard to
were your heroes growing up?
Well, airline pilots were mine. I like airplanes. Firefighters wereÖI grew up in an Irish Catholic neighborhood so firefighters were a natural, but it was a little more romantic to see those planes go across the sky, you know, where are they going, what are they doing, whoís on board, where are we going to go next?† So thereís that, but in acting, I loved Jimmy Cagney, he was a hero of mine.
Did you feel a lot of pressure to portray this realistically?
Oh completely. If you had to say what was the
quintessential mandate, pressure, it would be getting it right for
these people. It was so important we didnít want to make a mistake
because we were the only film of this genre, hitherto this point.† Backdraft was about an arsonist Ė it was not about
firefighters Ė so we had a one-shot deal, like if we donít do it
right, they will probably never talk about.†
I mean theyíll probably never do firefighter films.†
And because they are innately humble and modest, they donít
demand any attention at all, so itís kind of like that kid in the
family thatís the best student is the best worker around the house
but he doesnít want any attention, but then you want to give that
on the attention. I felt like it was our time to give them the
attention they deserved, even though they donít like being
considered heroes. But they are.
did the production of the film change after September 11?
Only to the degree of getting it right, because the firefighters were in the limelight now and their courage was unquestionable. Their integrity was unquestionable, and now it was are you going to live up to that and get it right or youíre not? That was mostly the demand. The ball was in our court, kind of.
you have a dance scene with Uma Thurman in Be Cool?
Yeah- I hear itís great. I did it and I know
what it was about, but I havenít seen it yet.†
I was told it is awesome. I take full responsibility for that
dance and I tell you why- because I grew up in the 60s when there
was a certain Brazilian feeling in the air Ė you know, Stan Getz
and Jobim would fill the air on jazz stations and stuff Ė and I
associated that with a lot of good times as a kid. So the director
and Uma thought I was crazy because they said, ďWhy would you pick
a samba to dance?Ē† I
said because itís
you expect problems since MGM just got bought?
Well, I know itís their number one film theyíre working on, so whether it does or not, it will carry over to whoever takes it on, I think.
you do a third film if they asked you?
Only if Elmore Leonard wrote another book. The reason I liked it was because he wrote a book, and that book was taken to script, which legitimized it for me, because by nature Iím not really attracted to sequels. Theyíre not interesting to me Ė I like new units of time for creativity Ė but he made it different, made it like a different movie, a new movie.
you have anything coming up after that?
Yeah I do. The one that Iím most excited for
you to see is a movie called A Love Song for Bobby Long, and that
got tremendous acclaim at the Venice Film Festival. I was there and
I saw the standing ovation. I saw everything Ė it was awesome. But
the thing is that we will release it one week before the new year to
qualify, weíre going to show it
how daunting was this movie in comparison to other movies youíve
All of the were difficult. Even Urban Cowboy was difficult with the mechanical bull and country dancing, Saturday Night Fever was difficult, Staying Alive was difficult, theres been a lot of them that were difficult, so physical exhaustion is not new to me. This is more technically-oriented, like you really had to know your technical data, but I like it anyway.† Even though I donít... Iíd rather have a reason like this to do it, you know, youíve got a purpose, which is to learn firefighting and do it well to make it right, then I can get through all of that physical activity and exhaustion because of the bigger purpose to it. But for its own sake is when I get, like, not as interested, but if you give me a movie to do, with a lot of training involved, I rather like it. You know, it gives me a reason to exhaust myself.
you learn anything as a result of your firefighter training?
Yes, because I stay in an awful lot of hotels, and I fly in airplanes, and I have homes where it could be possible so I think that Iím better off for having done it. I learned that different buildings and different furnishings and accoutrement lead to different kinds of fires, and different ways of putting them out. Like for instance, a kitchen fire is the most dangerous, why, because of the nylon materials and the pans and things are made of. When you inhale them, they sloidify in your chest and you canít make it, so you have to be protected. Thatís why when they see a burning frying pan they say whoa, masks, and they put it out withy a certain chemical versus another thing, because if you steam it up, the particles get in the air and you breathe it in. You know, the whole underneath the smoke idea of feeling the doors, different types of materials are more vulnerable to flames and heat than other things, you know, interesting stuff that will save your life.
you keeping to your fitness regime?
Iíve been trying to. Itís not easy. I donít
like that we have to exercise, I really donít. Itís bothersome-
why canít we grow old gracefully? It
does help, you know, it makes you feel better and all of that stuff.
It probably helped you get through the fire academy.
It did. It was the only thingÖbecause I was the
oldest guy, it was probably the only thing that helped me make it.†
Iíve always been a natural athlete and all that and I can
do it all, itís just that itís a pain in the ass.
you and your loved ones, what would you take out of a burning
Just that. Thereís nothing in the material
world that is that important. The thing that worries me most is
admin, like because if you had administrative papers, it can goof up
your life. Iíd think, ďGet the admin out of there, get the will,
get the deeds, the rights.Ē Those would scare me the most about
not having, because paperwork is what the whole planet is based on,
do you know what I mean? So other than that, all I care about is the
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