INT: Matt Dillon
Matt Dillon is one of those guys that is just a cool cat. The dude has been an OUTSIDER, a DRUGSTORE COWBOY and has even done the WILD THING with Denise Richards and Neve Campbell. He can also add Oscar nominee to his list after his performance in last years Academy Award-winning Best Picture CRASH (sorry, Brokeback).
One of the few teen stars to carry out a complex and versatile career and become one of the most respected actors of his generation. He had lots to say about his current comedy YOU, ME AND DUPREE and a little about his upcoming project FACTOTUM.
Matt is the type of guy that takes his work very seriously. Come on; if this guy never did anything besides Drugstore Cowboy hed still be cool. But with his work he doesnt seem to have the ego thing going. Soft spoken and a little intense, he comes across as one serious dude, albeit a serious dude who likes his music loud.
Matt, are you the you or the me in the title?
I think its gotta be I think its gotta be you. I think its gotta be me. I mean it depends on whos more of the protagonist. Thats I guess it depends on how you interpret it. Or maybe its Owen. Who knows, with his reality?
Can you talk about working with Owen in this where youre supposed to be best friends but you come from different places as actors?
Well in fact, I think we have different background or training, whatever. But I found that I was really pleasantly surprised. Owen worked very spontaneously (with) a fair amount of adlibbing. I found that really refreshing because I like to work that way. And in comedy that can be gold. Because you never know whats going to work. A kind of a magic thing can happen, it also keeps you connected. I like the way Owen works, very natural.
You might think after Crash youd get a lot more heavy dramatic roles but it seems like youve been reasserting your gift for comedy since then with Herbie and this, has that been the case?
Well generally I like to do comedy but Ill be perfectly honest, I prefer to do drama or character driven stuff, generally. But I like to do comedy and I found this to be one of the more difficult roles that Ive had to play. It was more challenging because the characters kind of a straight guy, hes very reactive. And I think where the comedy is with that character is in like a look or a reaction. And God knows I had plenty of those in this film. So I felt like, for me, it was really important that in the end, that Carl stands up for himself.
And also that he somehow had a hand in all this chaos. That, in fact, he was the one who made the decision to invite Dupree into his home. So he kind of deserves, to a certain extent, whatever he gets. I think Carls the character that more people will identify with. But weve all had, well, I dont know if weve all had but Ive certainly had multiple Duprees in my life over the years. You know characters like that.
Have you ever had a girl come between friendships?
Well they say good neighbors make good fences. This is clearly not something that Dupree lives by. He has real boundary problems. That is maybe the worst aspect of Dupree. Worse than the fact that he burns down their living room and the sofa and that he runs around naked, more the way that he puts Carl in the doghouse. That is really unforgivable, to get (Carl) in trouble with his girlfriend, or his wife as it is in this case.
When you did My Bodyguard, as a young actor did you pick up tips from other actors at that point which echo your life today?
Well, I was pretty young at that point and I had studied a fair amount as an actor. I was certainly very serious about it, you know I remember at that age the actors that were admired. I admired the great actors, you know, (Marlon) Brando, (James) Dean, (Montgomery) Clift, those guys and the next generation of guys, (Al) Pacino, (Robert) DeNiro, Gene Hackman, Dustin Hoffman But I remembered, one of the things that I was encouraged was, which is what I like about Owen, is to keep it fresh. Be spontaneous.
Thats the magic of film often those mistakes often, Ive noticed at times throughout my career the scenes that Ive done where I was like that was just awful turn out to be the best scenes, some of my best work. So its interesting, you know. And its because something authentic is happening. I forgot my line or I didnt know what I was doing at that moment or I lost focus, what in fact happened is something really organic and real happened in that moment. So, I think thats what Ive learned is that those are the real magic moments that happen if youre willing to be spontaneous. You know, fresh.
Any tips on hiding your porn stash because apparently writing Carls Camping Equipment doesnt work?
You know I thought that was a pretty clever. I thought that it was maybe too clever for his own good. How man guys write on a box Carls Camping Equipment? You know what I felt was interesting was that he chose to keep the collection. He had a sentimental attachment to that porn collection. So that when hes throwing them out its really like saying goodbye to an old friend.
How do you find your inner Matt-ness? And have you ever been the Dupree to Kevin (Dillon) or has Kevin ever been the Dupree to you?
In a different way, yeah, I had that with all my brothers at one point. And friends, Ive had a number Duprees in my life. You know, friendships important so you end up putting up with things, you know, you like this guy in spite of his shortcoming because hes your friend. And then brothers obviously you deal with it. Theyre brothers and blood is thicker than water. But its hard to know because Dupree is unaware of the fact that hes this crazy maker, so Im sure that Ive been that to somebody but I was probably unaware of it. And I say if Im a houseguest, I have a tendency to like my music loud you know. That might be something that bothers people. My driving too Ive been accused of not being good at driving.
Two questions, what is the status of Factotum? And any new directing opportunities coming up?
The first one is, Factotum is coming out the first or second week of August which is a comedy of a different variety. You know, very character based. I really liked it; I had a great time doing it. The filmmaker (Bent Hamer) is really interesting because he lets you do things, he lets the scene play out in front of the camera without doing a lot of editing, without doing a lot of coverage. Of course, I had my concerns about that because, whats he gonna do, hows he gonna bridge those performances? Then what I discovered is, thats really whats great about it, the performance can be unadulterated, (he) puts it back in the actors hands. Anyway, it was fun. A different kind of comedy, in that one I get to run around bare-assed it was fun. There were a lot of things that I liked about it because I felt like it was a film that I hadnt seen before. So its coming out, IFC is releasing it in August.
Well, I think it goes back to when I did Factotum. I was working on a screenplay and I put it down because I had to get to work on (Factotum). I did Dupree, then right after that we had the whole award season and that took up a lot of time and now Im ready. And also just, you know, its funny doing comedy. Its very, very physically challenging. Its really interesting; something thats so light and easy can be so trying, physically. You do a lot of takes, a lot of takes and some of the scenes where Im really at the high pitch, exploding and yelling, my voice, you know So, Im getting sidetracked there a little bit but direction yeah, Im gonna finish up the screenplay. I just wanna say that Im really happy when Im directing. I really like that process.
Owen works with his brothers a lot. Are you going to work with your brother on his show Entourage?
Well, I dont know. I think the hard thing about that show is that hes got a brother already. So I dont know if that will work out. But when we talk about it I say listen Id love to direct one. Hed love that. But also we talk about over the years that weve never really found a script that in fact I had a part for him in City of Ghosts in the beginning of the film but it got cut out; but we talk about doing something over the years. Hopefully well find something. Itd be a lot of fun.
You cut your brother out of your own movie?
No, I Listen, I tell ya, I ended up cutting out fifteen pages of the script. This is something Ive learned. Fifteen pages of the script before I started shooting and then I probably cut out about fifteen minutes at the beginning of the movie; I spoke to a filmmaker once he said every movie he worked on, he always cut out like the first fifteen minutes and I think thats really interesting. I heard a writer once say, always start the scene as late as you possibly can in a film.
I think rules are meant to be broken but I think thats a good rule, because I prefer short scenes; short, crisp, to the point. I think thats what it does, streamline, get down to the core of the scene. You know, I always find the introduction sort of like, unless there is a real reason for the characters to introduce themselves to each other, tell us something about who they are lets just cut to the chase. Theyve already met each other and now Im getting to what the meetings about. What the relationship is about.
(Dupree) talked about Audrey Hepburn being the perfect girl. Who is the perfect girl for you, how would you describe her?
I like a girl with a great sense of humor. I think thats really important. Someone whos easy going, you know, I think the best relationship to get in with a woman is a woman who knows where your buttons are. You dont want to be in a relationship where she knows where your buttons are and pushes your buttons. But you want them to know where they are, you want them to be clued in to where they are. So I think thats pretty ideal. I always liked Carole Lombard. If you want to go back further, talk about Audrey Hepburn but Carole. She was great, very funny. I kinda had a crush on her.
And favorite romantic film, Roman Holiday?
Theres a film made by (Emerich) Pressburger, (Michael) Powell called I Know Where Im Going. A Scottish film? An English film, set in Scotland. Its a very romantic film.
Did you ever get hurt because you had to be on a skateboard and you jumping on the table was that you?
Are you kidding?
You think they would let me get on a skateboard in the middle of making that film? Thank God they didnt. I wasnt much of a skateboarder.
You did jump over the table though.
That? I did launch myself over the table though. That was fun. But then again tore my vocal cords up; so the director, the next day on the set, there was a scene with Kate and I, kind of a quiet scene, then he said, You know, were going to move on to a different scene., I said Why?, he said, Because you sound like you got beat up with a baseball bat. Your voice is so shot. So that was the extent of the physical (injury). But I remember that day when we were like skateboarders, we did all kind of stunts at the bottom of the ramp, you know, easy stuff. But I remember thinking to myself, wow, we are on this skateboard ramp rolling around this is like, a great job. We get to be kids, you know, we get to have fun. It really is a great job, you get to play. And thats what we do as actors.
Youve been doing this since you were a kid to when you got your first Oscar nomination last year. What did that feel like, did it change anything and did it make a difference?
More bad scripts Thats not right I wanted to say that that was a lot of fun, that was a great experience. Obviously it doesnt happen every time; you can see that with all the terrific films made last year that didnt get recognized and performances. So its really an honor to get recognized like that, it was a lot of fun. I have to say I really enjoyed it. Some people say, you know, that a lot of people are upset that (Crash) won, Brokeback (Mountain) didnt win.
I said what are you bothering getting upset about? The fact is that all those movies that got nominated won. And at the end of the day its really, its a great honor but whats important is that, at the end of the day I dont say that that film is my favorite film because it won the Oscar in 1956, you know. I judge films on the way they were made so I was proud to be a part of that film and to me, I just show up like I do and some of the parts, I think the weightiness of that part really lent itself so this is the kind of work that I like to do.
No, for me I dont feel like Ive ever been in a better time career wise and I especially feel that way because it was fun to do this comedy, this big studio comedy, which is different, its a nice contrast to what I did with that. But also because I have this film Factotum coming out it was great to be a part of that and its just been a really good period of time for me. And Im excited about the future so I really feel like I couldnt be in a better situation than where I am at right now.
Do you know whats next?
No, I dont know whats next in the terms of Ive been reading scripts and to be honest one of the things I have to do is get back to what I was doing before I took on Factotum and finish this script, you know. Follow through. Its something that Ill most likely direct.
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