INT: Pegg & Frost!
Simon Pegg and
Nick Frost are damn funny guys and they happen to make damn funny
movies together. Whether
its the fantastic SHAUN OF THE DEAD, or the brilliant
action/comedy/horror of HOT
FUZZ, they work wonders.
And as far as the
I got the chance
to meet with Simon and Nick at The Four Seasons in
|Simon Pegg||Nick Frost|
You guys have been working together for so long. Youve known each other for so long. Youre friends. Does that make it easier? Do you ever discover new about each other?
Simon Pegg (SP):
Every single day. Its
nice because its an enduring friendship and it makes working
together fun. He still
surprises me. I was very
impressed by him on Hot Fuzz just as he grows as an actor.
When I met Nick he was a waiter, and he wasnt even a
waiter trying to be an actor like everyone here in
the reaction been in the
Yeah, its been enormous.
I think its been record-breaking.
Weve made three times what Shaun of the Dead made
theatrically and we out grossed its entire takings in the first
weekend of release for the
Nick Frost (NF): Yeah, we enjoy selling it really.
Are you great fans of Jerry Bruckheimer, and have you heard from him about this movie?
SP: No, I think Shane Black has seen it and he really likes it, but we havent heard from Bruckheimer or Bay the big Bs. Fan is a strange word to use with those guys in context. I think Im just an admirer of just the bombast of those films. After having attempted to make an action movies you realize how hard it is to pull off. Obviously we were fighting against the fact that we only had an eighth of Bad Boys 2 [budget]. You literally can make eight and a half Hot Fuzzes for one Bad Boys 2. Thats a hell of a trade off. And actually eight Hot Fuzzes are almost as long as one Bad Boys 2 as well. Just the wherewithal and gumption that it takes to pull off an action film is quite impressive. Dismissing those movies is not so easy now.
Nick did something very method for Shaun of the Dead, shaving your [pubic hair] to make sure you itched. Did you do anything method like that [for Hot Fuzz]?
NF: Actually I joined the Dutch police force for four years.
SP: They were the only ones that would have him.
NF: They are the only ones that would have me. The uniforms fit. No, not really, but I did watch Bad Boys 2.
SP: To me the whole shaving the [pubic hair] was just an excuse to actually do that. You palmed off as some kind of method thing but you actually just wanted to [trim] the scrotum.
Why only Bad Boys 2 and not [the original Bad Boys]?
NF: Is there a [Bad Boys] one? Its in none of the clips.
SP: I think because it was an odd thing, and I think they kind of knew it wasnt an entirely requested sequel really. It was like everyone went, oh there was Bad Boys but I think that in order to kind of [counter] that they just made the most impudent, excessive movie possible, and now because of that it exists solely without the need of its predecessor. Its like Bad Boys 2; forget Bad Boys 1. It kind of makes it obsolete.
Ok, Hot Fuzz 2?
NF: I dont know really. I think it might be silly to do [a sequel].
SP: Its an easier sequel to do than Shaun of the Dead because its just Danny and Angel getting into another adventure. But Hot Fuzz is like an origin story, its how they become Hot Fuzz, and I think once you have them just being Hot Fuzz its just less fun and just makes it two and a half hours of the last 30 minutes of Hot Fuzz, which would be tiring.
So are you a little sad that [the TV series] Extras is over and you dont have a chance to spoof yourself on a season three?
SP: The series Extras? Im not a fan.
Is the title Hot Fuzz a take off on [the rock group] The Killers Hot Fuss?
No, it came before that although it was a simultaneous sort
of moment. We were in
NF: We saw The Killers recently at a thing.
SP: [to Nick] And we didnt stop to talk to about it, did we? We just sort of said hello to them.
NF: We were giving them an award so we didnt really have time to chat, between their acceptance speech and being on camera.
So what was behind the title of the film?
SP: We just wanted to make a title that had very little meaning, and also to appeal to the two word titles of the 80s and 90s action flicks, like Lethal Weapon and Point Break.
NF: And Exit Wounds.
Yeah, all those film. All
those titles seemed to be generated from two hats filled with
adjectives and nouns and you just pull one [from each hat] and
youre like, ok this is it. And
also with Shaun of the Dead because it a pun on a specific
English phrase, it got changed a lot so we figured lets start off
with something that means nothing and that way they arent going
to change it, but I think they are still going to change it.
NF: Its very Euro, isnt it?
Simon, do you and Edgar collaborate in the script. How involved is Nick in the writing process?
SP: We have this period of rehearsal that takes place 4 weeks before we start shooting and Nick is the first person to get the script and the first person we have in, and we have a like week of improvising and just rehearsing. If anything comes up during the line readings, if Nick brings something else to it, then well integrate it to the script. But in terms of when were on set, its pretty rigid. Were quite anal about the right things being said at the right times. Sometimes its very necessary for things to be said in this particular way.
NF: I call it bringing the funny.
What is going to be the next thing you are going to write together?
SP: The next thing Nick and I write together, which we are busy working on at the moment, is a little side project. It wont be the third thing from Edgar and me, it will be something extra. Edgar wont work on it as a director, hell probably be a script editor or something. But me and Edgar as well had an idea as well for our third run in the Shaun of the Dead Hot Fuzz
NF: The Blood and Ice Cream trilogy.
The Blood and Ice Cream trilogy were calling it.
Which we had when we landed in
Could you give an update for your fans of what you guys are working on now, and what your schedule is like for the next year?
Ive got a show called
SP: Im doing a film in the interim of Toby Youngs book, How to Lose Friends and Alienate People which is directed by Bob Weide who did Curb Your Enthusiasm, and its me and Kirsten Dunst at the moment, but Im not sure of the rest of the cast.
Do you have
plans on the
SP: Yeah, its all done. It has to be done so quickly now because its 3 months after release that they want to get it out. It seems awfully fast but youre barely done making the thing and youre doing commentary and putting the extras together. We wanted to do something that was as good, if not better than the Shaun [of the Dead] DVD, so theres loads of behind the scenes footage and little films we made.
NF: Everything is covered from the very first rehearsal.
So you really thought about it when you were shooting?
SP: Oh yeah, you have to now.
NF: It can be an odd thing when you come off set from shooting all day and then you have to shoot a blog in your trailer. So youre constantly shooting. And even when youre not filming, theres something to be blogged. Were blogged out. We got a blogger with us, a friend of ours called Joe, who comes and blogs everything.
SP: Actually for the American DVD were putting together a special little documentary about this tour. I think it will be different. It might be a case of the completists with their region-free players will have to buy two.
Can you talk about working with all these veteran character actors in the film?
SP: It was great. It was really good. They were such a marvelous sort of people.
NF: I wish we had a bit of gossip for you but they were great. There is a reason why they are the top of their game because they are the whole package. Theyre prompt, they remember their lines, theyre nice, and there were no egos. Theyre good at what they do.
SP: Hot Fuzz was just one long anecdote. Youve acting alongside people who have acted alongside [Laurence] Olivier and worked for Samuel Beckett. It was just fantastic to sit around between shots and listen to them talk to each other.
NF: When were rehearsing, before every rehearsal time, wed get half an hour of anecdote time. So you could hear Edward Woodward talk about [working on the TV series] The Equalizer.
SP: I think that was his way of getting into the swing of things. Hed just sit and tell a story. Hes 76 [years old] now, you know hes getting on. But hes absolutely amazing. As is Billy [Nighy]. Jim Broadbent actually came to us after Shaun of the Dead and sort of said, would you consider working with me in one of your future projects. We were kind of like NO! [Laughter] So we really wrote [the character of] Frank Butterman for him.
NF: Take your Oscar with you.
SP: Yeah, it doesnt mean anything here.
big, loud American action moves as big in
Oh yeah, because its not just a number of movies.
Its a whole genre that has fed into British culture since
the 50s and in all its incarnations, right through the hard bits
The French Connections, Serpicos of the 70s,
through to the more high concept Lethal Weapons and Die
Hards and Last Boy Scouts and right up to Bad Boys 2.
Its evolved into the British consciousness.
And also, were very hungry for American culture in the
NF: They drive Ferraris.
So the two movies you guys spoof the most are Point Break and Bad Boys 2. Were there other movies you were interesting in doing but you couldnt get the rights?
NF: We dont like to use the s word by the way.
SP: Yeah, we dont use spoof.
Were you thinking homage?
SP: I think more spasticious, I think ultimately the film is what it is taking on. For Shaun of the Dead we wanted to make a zombie film. We didnt want to make fun of zombie films. At no point do we ever make fun of zombie films. There are elements in Hot Fuzz where were drawing attention to some of those grounded clichés that are always employed, like the never-ending magazine full of bullets, and that they manage to fire and not hit anything.
NF: Someone saying, Ill give you information in five minutes and then theyll be dead in 5 minutes.
SP: Yeah, they only 5 minutes to live. But basically its more like inhabiting that genre comedicly rather than making fun of it. Theres no derision in Hot Fuzz. We dont feel superior to the sort of material at all. And in a way the film is saying, its ok to be dumb, as long as you temper it with some intelligence occasionally its ok to watch a fireworks display. You dont have to watch Ibson all day long. We were going to mention Lethal Weapon but I dont think Mel Gibson has got a sense of humor.
So what is something we can ask Edgar that he wouldnt be expecting this morning?
NF: Why did you murder that boy? Watch the blood drain from his face. Ask him about cake flushing.
SP: [Ask him], Texas sewers have been jammed up with cake, can you explain?
NF: Seriously, if you get a chance to flush a cake, do it, because its joyous. Its like my pay-it-forward to you.
SP: It was Nicks birthday.
How do you do it?
NF: You put it in the toilet and you flush it. And you video tape it.
Piece by piece?
SP: If you want.
NF: If its a small cake, you can put it down all in one. Your American toilets, they f*ckin
SP: Suck cake like no one!
NF: I got given such a massive cake in Atlanta that I had to cut it into pieces with a shoe horn and flush it.
SP: We videoed the flushing as well.
Is that going to be on the DVD?
SP: I hope so.
NF: Our tour finale in New York, Im going to flush a wedding cake.
SP: Tier by tier.
NF: Im also doing apple pie but Im going to leave it in the toilet all day to let it steep and then flush it later.
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