INT: The Hitcher
If you havent seen the original Eric Red classic THE HITCHER starring Rutger Hauer, C. Thomas Howell and Jennifer Jason Leigh, you are missing out. But this week you have the opportunity to see the latest in the horror remake craze with a very scary Sean Bean stepping into Mr. Hauers shoes. The newest version from Rogue Pictures keeps a bit of the suspense with Dave Meyer, the music video director at the helm. He is able to keep the flick moving with a great performance from Sean, and a couple of very capable kids in danger, played by Zachary Knighton and ONE TREE HILLS Sophia Bush.
Andrew Form and
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Any Cheney jokes on the shot gun day? And second, you did a great job of making this realistic; explaining things like the cell phone and making it believable, but the Zack, 15 minutes moment, could you justify the ultimate Ill be right back moment?
Brad Fuller (BF): You know we had to get Zack out of the room; we had to get him out because we debated how we were going to get Sean in the room. The response last night was obviously -- there was some fun to be had there and we had a great shower scene. [Laughs] It was fun for Sophia, so I dunno; we just kind of went with it. I mean I wish I could give you a better answer. You have something you want to add to that?
Andrew Form (AF): No, but its tricky, because how do you get Zack out of that room and get Sean in? Because we had this whole scene constructed where we did want Sean in bed with Sophia and we had to get Zack out of the motel room.
BF: And you know Sean is going to be in the bed. You know hes going to be there. And youre waiting for it to happen, so we
Sean Bean (SB): There was a scene where I was in bed with Sophia? [Laughs] Shit.
And a Cheney moment from the shotgun day?
BF: Its going to be on the DVD.
Sean, how difficult was this character to play for you because we dont really know anything about him.
SB: It was. There wasnt a great deal of back history to the guy. Not much information or where he came from which I thought was quite interesting really, because it allowed me the freedom to create what I wanted and to invent him as a person. And I always thought that it was scarier that you dont know anything about him or where he comes from. I always find that the less you know about people, the less you trust them. I usually like to have something to go on but for this particular movie I was pleased that he was like an angel of death. Wandering the freeways assuming different identities and that quite appealed to me.
This is for the producers; the fact we dont know much of the hitcher does that mean will there be a prequel?
BF: No. I dont see a prequel happening. As Sean said, give him a blank slate and let him do what hell do with it. There was no thinking about a prequel until you brought it up.
Sophia what are the challenges of playing a girl like this and avoiding the clichés?
Sophia Bush (SBu): Right, I think that was a big thing for me and something that we definitely looked into in a lot of moments in filming, because I dont want to be that girl running around whining and irritating, and at the same time I dont want to come out like Lara Croft with guns blazing, because thats not quite right either. And I think that its something that made it great was - greater for me rather was a lot of what Zach and I got to do together. Because we spent weeks just working on the chemistry of our relationship and how Jim and Grace behaved and reacted and the ways we kind of messed with one another and the way partners in a long standing relationship sort of do.
So, what we had, I think this gave me some license to go on the emotional roller coaster instead of just be one kind of woman or another was when Grace wasnt going to make it Jim pulled her up and when Jim wasnt going to make it, Grace pulled him up. And it was a very symbiotic relationship, so it allowed me to show both sides. And it allowed me to flip the scales from her being kind of happy go lucky to her being stripped down and very animalistic. It let me do that slowly more in a see saw than in one quick flip and I think thats a more accurate portrayal of how people change and how people sort of tap into their strengths.
Dave, this is really a lean film. Is there more stuff that got cut to bring it down to this running time? And how was your relationship with the MPAA?
Dave Meyers (DM): I had a really great MPAA experience. I didnt focus on violence in the film even though there is some. I tried to keep everything on thrills and suspense. We cut most of it out before we actually filmed it, which is sort of how we kept the budget [which] was extremely low, and yet we still have huge car action and all that stuff. And so, part of the relationship I had with the producers was trying to cut that stuff before we filmed it. And really cutting the fat everywhere we could. I pulled from my commercials and video background and keeping things really succinct. Its lean and there is only one scene that has about five different versions of it and that hopefully make it to the DVD.
What scene is that?
DM: Am I allowed to say?
DM: The motel scene. We shot that so many times I think Sean might be mad at me. He was like, Again?
Dave, can you talk about the musical decisions for the film? I enjoyed the scene with Closer [by Nine Inch Nails] coming into the scene.
DM: I had a play list that I used to inspire me for the characters in the film. And it came through my exposure of music and what I loved and I was distinctly told by the producers Id never afford any of it. So, the film came out we put it together and we had all that music in there as my own personal thing. And then one day Brad called me and said, Guess what. The studio likes it and they are going to pay for this song. I called Dave Matthews people and got a deal on that song. And then I started going and Trent Reznor signed off on it, and then like three or four days ago the studio paid for it [Laughing] so it was just hanging on it. No, no, no, OK.
This question is for Sean, how difficult was it stepping into Rutger Hauers shoes?
SB: Well, Id seen the film when it first came out about 20 years ago. And it made a big impression on me. It was a very well constructed film and Rutger Hauer gives a very good performance and I remember being scared by it, and as I said, it made an impact but I really didnt want that running around my head and cluttering things up when we were making our version of it. So, I think working with Dave and obviously, Zach and Sophia, I think we created quite an interesting new version. And I didnt really have any reservations or concerns about being compared to another actor. I just wanted to stop and scratch and do it my way.
Zack and Sophia in the same outfits most of the movie getting worse for wear. How many different versions were there? How gross did they get by the end?
Zack Knighton (ZK): Ill be back in 15 minutes. [Laughs] It was the same outfit. I wore the same thing every day. It smelled really bad.
SBu: Yeah, there definitely got to a point where what did they have? For continuity sake they had to keep a couple of pairs of all that clothes.
ZK: Yeah, but there were different stages, because we shot out of sequence.
SBu: There were a couple of days when we would be in sequence and wed be in the same clothes and he looked at me one day and was like, We smell. And Im like, I know. [Laughs] It was interesting, but then again we were covered in dirt, blood and filth so we probably would have smelled anyway. I dont think anyone noticed, except for us.
Sophie, Zack and Sean how is the relationship between you guys and Sean since you had to be separate from him and scared of him?
SB: Its quite good in a way -- that they were scared of me.
ZK: Im still afraid. [Laughs]
SB: The first scene we did in Austin, Texas was a night shoot, was the scene in the car where they are picking up the garage and we shot the interior of the car which is quite a long scene and it was quite good that we didnt really know each other by then at all did we? Liked each other or not.
ZK: You didnt talk to us at all.
SB: Thats not unusual.
SBu: It took us a couple of weeks to all get speaking.
SB: But it actually worked for the scene because we werent supposed to know each other so Im glad we did that.
SBu: Our first conversation was about how hard you could push the knife into my face. And I was like, Hi. How are you? Feel free to hit me. (Laughs.)
Was it hard to shoot the scenes with the heavy rain?
ZK: I can tell you if you shoot in the rain youre going to have a lot of voice ADR to do after the movie and voice looping, stuff like that.
SB: Thats if youve got lines. [Laughs]
DM: I think rain is really restrictive to work in, but In our particular case we had 20 minutes of rain in a car and it couldnt have been any more challenging to keep it interesting and so that was one of my main focuses. Shooting a whole bunch of angles and catching the nuances of the scene and stuff so that the tension can stay alive; and with the sound effects people, every single day I said, I want 100 different tracks of rain. I want rain for this scene that sounds different than rain for the next scene. Its a really subtle thing and I dont know how many people will really pick up on it, but I was just worried the same type of rain, for 20 minutes, would put people to sleep.
Dave, what was the CG to practical ratio in the car chase sequence?
DM: About 99.9% real. There is no CG at all in it. The only thing that was done was that we broke cameras. I gambled correctly and put the camera right in harms way. So, we shot each sequence with ten cameras. So, four or five of the cameras would see some of the other cameras and we had to erase them. Its kind of just the art of invisibility. There is really only one major CG thing, which was the rabbit, which is pretty much out of the box now, but everything else was the art of trying not to have anything.
Sophia, how challenging is it to find quality scripts?
SBu: I think its definitely hard to find films of quality that you want to make and particularly even when this script came, its like; prior to reading it did I really know it was going to be anything other than a typical movie of a scary genre. And as I was going through it I realized that there was something special here. Because, not only did that tomboy side of me get to completely freak out and like, my stunt junkie way, do all of these amazing things and watch cars get blown up and watch helicopters fly over our faces and ride around the desert with guns, but there was such a development for this character and a real sort of slope for this girl to fall down.
And I think thats it of me is really choosing something that gives me some work to do and things that I havent done before. It was something just really very exciting. And the relationships between our characters I think is phenomenal and real and something that gets overdone in our age range a lot. And to be working with Sean and it was like, Yeah, I want to make a movie with Sean Bean. Totally scary! [Laughs] And its so great, because we had a moment in that first sequence, like he says, barely knowing each other and were fighting and Im like, God, this guy is so strong and he has my face in his hand and this is great, this is great. And I made some noise that worried him and you looked at me and was like, Are you alright? And I was like, Yeah. And you were like, OK! And I was like, OK, were back in the scene. Beat me up some more.
SB: You liked that didnt you? [Laughs]
Question for Andrew and Brad any update on Friday the 13th?
AF: We are working on a script right now. And I think that next year, its not in the first two quarters for us, that movie, maybe at the end of the year next year. But right now we are still working on the screenplay.
AF: No director yet at all. I mean Jonathan Liebesman is attached to the movie right now, the director of Chainsaw.
BF: But it really depends on his schedule. Hes got a lot of things rolling around right now. So, if hes available when we have a script, wed love to work with him again. We had a great experience with him.
Dave, how did you come to the project and was it something you always wanted to remake?
DM: Brad, Drew and Michael are big fans of THE HITCHER and were sort of circling it and found rights to it. I was circling their operation of sort of being a home for video commercial guys, making that jump to movies. The president of the studio happened -- to a year before do a movie with him. All of these stars sort of aligned. I studied the film and realized like Sophia said, theres character arcs in there. There is something more special than the typical horror film. It just all sort of worked.
Sophia, what do you think the fascination with girls kicking ass is?
SBu: I think whats great about [it] is that weve seen so many great heroes in men and your iconic Dirty Harry and your Indiana Jones. Youve got that and were at a point where in our sociology weve evolved to realize that women can kick as much ass and want to see it. Theres something thats a little less expected about seeing the girlfriend end up with the shotgun. Its exciting and it really gives the guys something to root for, but it gives the girls in the audience something to root for too. You no longer have women being dragged to an action movie by their boyfriend. Couples are going together because theyre both really excited about the film and its something I enjoy. I really liked that whole end sequence in the movie. We had a good time with that one.
How close to the original script did you stay to and how long was the shoot?
DM: Shoot was 44 days. The original script of the remake?
Your original script of this?
DM: The structure of it stayed pretty close. We pretty much improved the whole movie. There was a green-lit draft that had a structure that had certain scenes that are still in the movie. I think one of the biggest things in these movies is creating believability. Everyday wed show up and see a block of the scene and go, oh thats not very real. So wed all go back to our corners and a lot of time it was the cast that would find the soul of it and wed help guide it. Thats why there is an authenticity in the film.
Sean, any favorite villains of movies past?
SB: Other villains? I used to like the old style ones James Cagney and Edward G. Robinson. People like that. Its quite hard to spring to mind. I suppose so, quite rough and ready, no-nonsense gangsters. I tried to play this guy without being too aggressive in a sense. John Malkovich is someone I always admire as a villain. I like him in general, but I think he has an assertive quality about him.
There was recent talk that they might do a prequel to LORD OF THE RINGS and a movie about THE HOBBIT? Would you consider coming back if Peter Jackson isnt involved?
SB: Yeah. I dont know. Its very much a creation of Peter Jackson. Its difficult for me to answer that question because I havent heard about it. It depends on the circumstances, the many, many circumstances. The director, the writing, the whole idea behind it and what they are trying to achieve.
Whats next for all of you?
BF: We are trying to put another picture for Rogue Pictures called ALONE.
An original script?
AF: An original script. Can you believe it?
BF: We start production in a few weeks on a movie called HORSEMAN. Its a thriller.
AF: In the vein of SEVEN with Dennis Quaid and Ziyi Zhang.
BF: Then weve talked about THE BIRDS. Thats out there. Theres another movie we might do for Rouge. We might do NEAR DARK for Rogue. We love the way Eric Red works.
THE BIRDS is still likely to happen?
BF: Absolutely. Yes. In the next two weeks, or the next week or so I think theyll announce it because theyre starting to talk about a new writer to come on and write that. It definitely feels like it is moving.
AF: And FRIDAY THE 13th, were still working on the script for.
SB: Im not really doing anything at the moment. I just finished this film in the artic called TRUE NORTH with Michelle Yeoh, which is also about three characters, but slightly different from this combination. So I was over there for awhile and Ive been flying around a bit. Im sick of it so Im off and looking and just looking at a few things now. Nothing definite.
SBu: Im finishing the fourth season of One Tree Hill. We start on hiatus half way through April and so its sort of in the next few weeks that we pull things that have started coming together and all the things that will be put together and figure out what pool we feel like diving in for the summer.
How long do you think One Tree Hill will go for?
SBu: We never really do and I think its hard to say. Depends how long the kids keep watching. How long we keep the teenagers entertained. Well see.
ZK: Im about to start a job as Sean Beans new personal assistant. [Laughing] I am currently sort of in the mix for some things and hoping that something works out and basically just hanging out on the west side and surfing.
DM: Im just waiting for the movie to come out. A lot of times with a first time film, people wait to see the film before they decide what want to offer you. A lot of what I have been offered is sort of clones of THE HITCHER and I dont really want to do that. Im developing a movie called WITCH HUNTER with Arnold Kopelson and New Regency. That will be the A plan if that actually gets green-lit. Its extremely expensive and I dont know where it stands, but its being read and if that happens, then that will be the immediate one. Otherwise, Ill wait.
Can you talk about casting? I understand Zach went through a rigorous audition process.
DM: Ill hand that one to Brad.
BF: Zack specifically? With Sophia it was very simple. She was an actress we had heard about and for Drew and myself, we get a lot more from sitting down with an actor and actresses then actually auditioning them. Thats how we found Jessica Biel from THE TEXAS CHAINSAW. Thats how we found Jordana Brewster for the other CHAINSAW [THE BEGINNING]. We had heard wonderful things about Sophia and she came in and we just kind of fell in love with her. We just kind of said were working on this thing called THE HITCHER and it was early on.
When this script was being developed she was the person we had in mind and we kept her up to speed with what was happening with it. It was always Sophias movie. By design, she fits the bill for us. We thought she was likeable and at the same time can carry that gun. That worked out. As far as Zack, Zack had a much more torturous process to getting this role. Zach was a guy who we really wanted to be in the CHAINSAW: THE BEGINNING, that we had just finished. For whatever reason it came down to Zach and this other guy and the other guy got the role.
We loved him and you gotta choose an actor, Sophia is really hot and youve got to choose a guy who you believe is such a cool guy because she can get any guy she wants. Youve got to get a guy thats a real guys guy. When youre casting actors; that was always a real hard thing for us to find, a guy who you believe is going to drive a Ford 42 and land Sophia and be in those situations. Zach kept coming back. We didnt want to cut him and we kept on seeing other actors for lack of a better term, bigger names and people who are more well know.
Zach, to his credit, doesnt have many credits. He did one show and that was pretty much it. But, he just kept coming back and every time he came back, he was better and better. At the end of it, you cant think of the role any other way. He was the only guy who nailed it six times. I think you actually did come back six times. How do you not give the guy the role? He kept coming back. No one else had that longevity.
ZK: I also happened to be in the habit of drinking beers at the time and I had to drop a few pounds. I actually lost I think I lost 13 pounds in five days
Did you stop drinking beer?
ZK: Yeah. I pretty much stopped everything. I realized that Im not the pretty boy type that you see in this film and I thought that Id try to improve myself physically and mentally for the thing.
BF: For Sean too. It was very simple. For THE HITCHER, we were looking for a Sean Bean type; we didnt think wed actually get Sean. [We needed] this great elegant actor who could play this role. Wed checked on Sean and his dates werent working and it wasnt good. Sean had just worked with out partner Michael Bay on THE ISLAND, and Drew and I went to Michael and said come on lets get Sean. Lets try to figure it out. We moved some dates around and then his dates opened up and we just got lucky.
There was a rumor online about Naomi Watts being up for THE BIRDS?
BF: No actor or actress is going to commit to everything with a script. Weve sat down with her and conceptually I think we all want to make the same movie, but until we have a script and a director, I think its a little premature. But, were all talking and shes who wed like to have as the lead.
What else do you have planned for the DVD?
DM: I dunno, whatever Brad and Drew let me put on there. Theres a lot of material that we can play with.
The Motel scene?
DM: I think itd be fun to have that. We actually have five complete scenes of how we addressed the motel each with their own flaw.
Producers at the same time: ...and two endings.
Sean any plans to go back to the Sharp series?
SB: I dont know. We did one in India last year called Sharps challenge, which was a lot of fun. it would be good to maybe resurrect it one day so long as there is something to talk about. As long as were not just going on for the sake of it because it was popular and it was successful. But I would like to think there is life in it as long as its meaningful and we are just not repeating what we did already. Its particularly, obviously a favorite of mine.
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