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Is Chuck Norris to blame for The Expendables 2 getting a PG-13 rating?

01.17.2012

There's this strange rumor going around that Chuck Norris is the reason for THE EXPENDABLES 2 getting a PG-13 rating.

Well, it might actually be true if what Chuck says goes. There's currently no rating for the film so I guess we will see when the MPAA slaps something on it.

What did the legendary Mr. Norris say? Thanks to the lovely Marcey over at AITH, who did some digging to find the facts for her article, we have the dirt.

During an interview with Gazeta (which had to be translated), Norris said this about THE EXPENDABLES 2:

First: "Playing in this movie was a lot of fun. I play a super hero, who saves everybody's life."

Then this happened: "In Expendables 2, there was a lot of vulgar dialogue in the screenplay. Fot this reason, many young people wouldn't be able to watch this. But i don't play in movies like this. Due to that i said i won't be a part of that if the hardcore language is not ereased. Producers accepted my conditions and the movie will be classified in the category of PG-13."

Back the f*ck up...what did he just say??? So we might have to tone down the awesomeness that is THE EXPENDABLES for Chuck Norris? Really? I've heard that he's not really into vulgar language and such but come on! Does he not realize what movie he signed up for? Also, did the producers really give in to that? Lots of action, no cursing.

Until we get a rating for the film, it's still up in the air.

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9:19AM on 01/19/2012

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6:38AM on 01/19/2012

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3:44AM on 01/19/2012
It makes sense. Chuck did start becoming a more hard core christian when he retired, so I am not surprised. Chuck's cool and all, but he's not the badass he used to be. Still, hoping this movie is better than the first. I'll watch anyway just to see Arnold, Chuck, Sly, and Jean in the same film.
It makes sense. Chuck did start becoming a more hard core christian when he retired, so I am not surprised. Chuck's cool and all, but he's not the badass he used to be. Still, hoping this movie is better than the first. I'll watch anyway just to see Arnold, Chuck, Sly, and Jean in the same film.
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3:38AM on 01/19/2012

FUCK CHUCK

fuck this movie...i hope it bombs

apparently sly has confirmed this(in some polish magazine) like cyphiere says its a weird set of morals to promote war on other countries and toning down the language so kids can see it.

bullshit cast are telling us:
yeah we had to cut out the swearing because i believe in a society where we dont have to use profanity to bring a great movie full of action and everything else people could possibly need out of a moviegoing experience.

the truth:
fuck this movie...i hope it bombs

apparently sly has confirmed this(in some polish magazine) like cyphiere says its a weird set of morals to promote war on other countries and toning down the language so kids can see it.

bullshit cast are telling us:
yeah we had to cut out the swearing because i believe in a society where we dont have to use profanity to bring a great movie full of action and everything else people could possibly need out of a moviegoing experience.

the truth:

the collective paycheques of the cast and budget went way higher than expected so we are gonna have to cut it down to a pg-13 to push the budget up

anyone see an uncut version in our near future?
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3:39AM on 01/19/2012
sorry push revenues up
sorry push revenues up
3:26AM on 01/19/2012

It's true

Sly has confirmed it's true. However, I bet $$$s dictated this decision, not Chuck Norris! [link]

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Sly has confirmed it's true. However, I bet $$$s dictated this decision, not Chuck Norris! [link]

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3:12AM on 01/19/2012

Morality check needed!

Weird set of morals there Chuck!
Weird set of morals there Chuck!
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12:59AM on 01/19/2012
Fuck Chuck.
Fuck Chuck.
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12:28AM on 01/19/2012
ironic how a guy who hasnt made a decent in movie since...well ever(yeah i said decent not awfully good material) who is only in this because of a paycheque would slander the morals of selling a movie to a target audience...if this is pg-13 consider me out

i thought the whole point of the expendables was like a throwback to the hard hitting r rated movies of the 80's where profanity laced one liners, extreme body counts and horrific deaths were pretty much the main selling point?
ironic how a guy who hasnt made a decent in movie since...well ever(yeah i said decent not awfully good material) who is only in this because of a paycheque would slander the morals of selling a movie to a target audience...if this is pg-13 consider me out

i thought the whole point of the expendables was like a throwback to the hard hitting r rated movies of the 80's where profanity laced one liners, extreme body counts and horrific deaths were pretty much the main selling point?
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11:37PM on 01/18/2012

Ohh Chuck

I'm taking this as pure rumor and speculation for now...but if this is true, that makes me upset. First off, I'm A huge fan of Chuck Norris. I even met him while he was filming Lone Wolf McQuade in my hometown of El Paso. He is Christian, and I know all the values he stands for. But at the same time, what movie did he think he was signing up for?? I hope this is all a buncha bull. However, If this is true, let me quote a great man...
The needs of the many, outweigh the need of the few, or
I'm taking this as pure rumor and speculation for now...but if this is true, that makes me upset. First off, I'm A huge fan of Chuck Norris. I even met him while he was filming Lone Wolf McQuade in my hometown of El Paso. He is Christian, and I know all the values he stands for. But at the same time, what movie did he think he was signing up for?? I hope this is all a buncha bull. However, If this is true, let me quote a great man...
The needs of the many, outweigh the need of the few, or the one"
And the "Many" need a kick ass, profanity laced, blowing people in half, Bowie knife through the chest Hard R movie!!
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10:08PM on 01/18/2012
Personally, I don't believe a word of it. No disrespect to Chuck Norris, but he isn't exactly in a position to be calling the shots. He made some decent action movies in the 70s and early 80s, but currently has absolutely zero star power. He isn't considered a bankable star, so why is everyone so quick to believe that the producers and everyone else involved are all going to bend to his will. I mean seriously, all jokes in his honor aside, why would they make such a huge change to the
Personally, I don't believe a word of it. No disrespect to Chuck Norris, but he isn't exactly in a position to be calling the shots. He made some decent action movies in the 70s and early 80s, but currently has absolutely zero star power. He isn't considered a bankable star, so why is everyone so quick to believe that the producers and everyone else involved are all going to bend to his will. I mean seriously, all jokes in his honor aside, why would they make such a huge change to the production just because he doesn't like curse words? Not to mention, the violence will likely not allow for a PG-13 rating.
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7:30PM on 01/18/2012
How truly pathetic people have become in this country if they swear off a movie because the language might be toned down, including Niki Stephens. Seriously? People go find a dark corner, watch some porn (plenty of action, language and blood if you look hard enough) and drift off into the nothingness you really are.
How truly pathetic people have become in this country if they swear off a movie because the language might be toned down, including Niki Stephens. Seriously? People go find a dark corner, watch some porn (plenty of action, language and blood if you look hard enough) and drift off into the nothingness you really are.
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5:30PM on 01/18/2012
If this is true I have just lost all respect for Chuck Norris. Thanks for ruining what could have been one of the greatest action flicks ever Chuck. Chuck Norris hasn't made a good movie since what, the mid 80's? Fuck you Chuck.
If this is true I have just lost all respect for Chuck Norris. Thanks for ruining what could have been one of the greatest action flicks ever Chuck. Chuck Norris hasn't made a good movie since what, the mid 80's? Fuck you Chuck.
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4:57PM on 01/18/2012

Yeah it's fake.

Yeah this is a hoax. I haven't found any reputable sources that have reported on this. Unless it was explicitly written in his contract when he signed on to the film that he would have final say in something like the actual content that will be in the final cut, this is rumor nonsense created to generate clicks to some schmucks movie blog.
Yeah this is a hoax. I haven't found any reputable sources that have reported on this. Unless it was explicitly written in his contract when he signed on to the film that he would have final say in something like the actual content that will be in the final cut, this is rumor nonsense created to generate clicks to some schmucks movie blog.
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4:54PM on 01/18/2012

LMFAO... so did I just read that...

LMFAO. Seriously... LOL. that's all I have nothing to say. I could fuckin careless the first one was pure rubbish so I could careless about # 2 but I doubt it will be PG-13
LMFAO. Seriously... LOL. that's all I have nothing to say. I could fuckin careless the first one was pure rubbish so I could careless about # 2 but I doubt it will be PG-13
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7:01PM on 01/18/2012
Worry more about your grammar before you get on here and try to make a point.
Worry more about your grammar before you get on here and try to make a point.
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4:39PM on 01/18/2012
I'm mad. Chuck Norris is a true idiot. You don't get it, Chuck. Get the fuck out of the film. If this gets a PG-13, I will see it for free.
I'm mad. Chuck Norris is a true idiot. You don't get it, Chuck. Get the fuck out of the film. If this gets a PG-13, I will see it for free.
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4:28PM on 01/18/2012
I'e always been annoyed by idea that an R rating means a better, more "real" motion picture; it's just as single minded believing R's ruin movies. But this an example of when the R rated film should really be defended: when it's the appropriate rarting for the conceived content. If they'd conceived a great sequel that didn't need an R, I wouldn't care, but if the movie's just been snipped of R content for the sake of it, I'm dissapointed.
It's no high art, but The Expendables should be
I'e always been annoyed by idea that an R rating means a better, more "real" motion picture; it's just as single minded believing R's ruin movies. But this an example of when the R rated film should really be defended: when it's the appropriate rarting for the conceived content. If they'd conceived a great sequel that didn't need an R, I wouldn't care, but if the movie's just been snipped of R content for the sake of it, I'm dissapointed.
It's no high art, but The Expendables should be allowed to be what it is, whether it's PG-13 or R.
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4:01PM on 01/18/2012
Chuck Norris is protecting earth, if he swear once, he could doom the entire planet.
Chuck Norris is protecting earth, if he swear once, he could doom the entire planet.
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3:55PM on 01/18/2012

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3:27PM on 01/18/2012

What!

You suck Chuck! Take your Holier Than Thou belief and get off the set! l
You suck Chuck! Take your Holier Than Thou belief and get off the set! l
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2:59PM on 01/18/2012
I hope Chuck Norris has some room for my fist, because I'm going to ram it into his stomach!
I hope Chuck Norris has some room for my fist, because I'm going to ram it into his stomach!
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2:16PM on 01/18/2012
Chuck Norris donīt need to say "Fuck You", he letīs his fists do that!!!
Chuck Norris donīt need to say "Fuck You", he letīs his fists do that!!!
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1:49PM on 01/18/2012

Missing the point...

If the sequel has a decent plot with some good action sequences and better dialogue than the first film...I don't care if it has fewer F-Bombs. I see enough films and comedians nowadays try to be 'edgy' with their over the top usage of profanity as if that is a substitute for showcasing talent and being entertaining.

I also find it humorous that some people feel it would take away from the reality of the film...really? We're talking about The Expendables 2 here people. I don't think
If the sequel has a decent plot with some good action sequences and better dialogue than the first film...I don't care if it has fewer F-Bombs. I see enough films and comedians nowadays try to be 'edgy' with their over the top usage of profanity as if that is a substitute for showcasing talent and being entertaining.

I also find it humorous that some people feel it would take away from the reality of the film...really? We're talking about The Expendables 2 here people. I don't think reality needs to come into the discussion of a film that could also be titled 'Grumpy Old Men 3: The Search for Schlock'.

I also find it hard to believe that the producers of this film could be shocked by Norris' stance. I'm fine if they cave to him and I'm fine if they cut him. I just hope that if this story is true that the makers of the film don't howl with surprise.
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3:47AM on 01/19/2012
i dont think anyone gives a shit about the reality of the film...its the fact that its been trimmed down to make money...and guess what pg-13 means no head shots less blood lower body count and less titties...couldnt really care less about the swearing...BUT I WANNA SEE ME SOME CHARISMA CARPENTER TITTIES GODDAMMIT!!!!!
i dont think anyone gives a shit about the reality of the film...its the fact that its been trimmed down to make money...and guess what pg-13 means no head shots less blood lower body count and less titties...couldnt really care less about the swearing...BUT I WANNA SEE ME SOME CHARISMA CARPENTER TITTIES GODDAMMIT!!!!!
1:45PM on 01/18/2012
With the PG-13 rating. Chuck Norris single handily destroyed the only character I cared to watch in Expendables 2 which was Dolph Lundgren's Gunnar Jensen. Gunnar need's and wants an R-rating.
With the PG-13 rating. Chuck Norris single handily destroyed the only character I cared to watch in Expendables 2 which was Dolph Lundgren's Gunnar Jensen. Gunnar need's and wants an R-rating.
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1:11PM on 01/18/2012
This guy has enourmous balls to say he is the reason this movie is PG-13. If there isn't alot of profanity, I want to see this douche rip the spines out of at least 40 people.
This guy has enourmous balls to say he is the reason this movie is PG-13. If there isn't alot of profanity, I want to see this douche rip the spines out of at least 40 people.
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12:55PM on 01/18/2012
It's not because people think it's cool to curse or they're impressed by it. It's because 'bad language' is commonly and casually used every day, and to not have it in a film, let alone an action film, takes away the realism.
Bullets flying past your head and explosions singeing off your ass hair, a gunshot wound and you're bleeding out...
"Oh, sugar, we better get going, guys!"
"Gosh darn, this really hurts, Sly. What the heck did you get me into?"

shut the fuck up you annoying assholes.
It's not because people think it's cool to curse or they're impressed by it. It's because 'bad language' is commonly and casually used every day, and to not have it in a film, let alone an action film, takes away the realism.
Bullets flying past your head and explosions singeing off your ass hair, a gunshot wound and you're bleeding out...
"Oh, sugar, we better get going, guys!"
"Gosh darn, this really hurts, Sly. What the heck did you get me into?"

shut the fuck up you annoying assholes.
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12:28PM on 01/18/2012
I am guessing the trolls on here calling Chuck Norris a pussy are ones who think it is cool to curse & are not old enough to smoke & drink. I think it could still get an R rating for the violence alone.

I am also starting to believe the ratings system is simply a marketing ploy now anyways. Studios are the only ones who assume a rating will bring in more money & the moviegoers simply do not care about a silly rating & see a movie anyway.
I am guessing the trolls on here calling Chuck Norris a pussy are ones who think it is cool to curse & are not old enough to smoke & drink. I think it could still get an R rating for the violence alone.

I am also starting to believe the ratings system is simply a marketing ploy now anyways. Studios are the only ones who assume a rating will bring in more money & the moviegoers simply do not care about a silly rating & see a movie anyway.
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12:38PM on 01/18/2012
Also lets be real, are people honestly gonna see this movie simply for chuck norris?
Also lets be real, are people honestly gonna see this movie simply for chuck norris?
12:14PM on 01/18/2012

doesn't matter...

anyway, it's going to get an R rating because of the insanely stupid kills this movie is going to have. which raises another issue, you dont like cussing but it's ok of roughly the population of a small island get shot to pieces? Chuck Chuck Chuck, you sound like you're fill of shit, oh sorry, i mean poopooca
anyway, it's going to get an R rating because of the insanely stupid kills this movie is going to have. which raises another issue, you dont like cussing but it's ok of roughly the population of a small island get shot to pieces? Chuck Chuck Chuck, you sound like you're fill of shit, oh sorry, i mean poopooca
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12:05PM on 01/18/2012
uuuuhhh what?
uuuuhhh what?
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11:40AM on 01/18/2012
I say it's a joke. I just don't see how one actor could have so much sway especially considering he hasn't had a hit movie in a long time. Really the biggest thing he had in his career was a very bad TV show. I seriously doubt Stallone and Statham would agree to this, and they have much more star power than Chuck Norris ever thought about having. I may end up eating these words but as of right now I'm calling bullshit
I say it's a joke. I just don't see how one actor could have so much sway especially considering he hasn't had a hit movie in a long time. Really the biggest thing he had in his career was a very bad TV show. I seriously doubt Stallone and Statham would agree to this, and they have much more star power than Chuck Norris ever thought about having. I may end up eating these words but as of right now I'm calling bullshit
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12:11PM on 01/18/2012
you haven't heard of Christian Bale and Terminator4
you haven't heard of Christian Bale and Terminator4
12:29PM on 01/18/2012
It seams you may have forgotten.... He is Chuck F-ing Norris.
It seams you may have forgotten.... He is Chuck F-ing Norris.
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10:13AM on 01/18/2012
They probably know that if the pull one behind his back, heīll roundhouse them in the face so it wouldnīt surprise me if they did what he wants.
They probably know that if the pull one behind his back, heīll roundhouse them in the face so it wouldnīt surprise me if they did what he wants.
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9:45AM on 01/18/2012
Anyway, fuck all the PG-13 apologists. I got some good news. Denzel's Safe House has been slapped with an R-rating for "strong violence throughout and some language".
Still, it's a sad day we find out that behind Chuck Norris' beard is a pussy.
Anyway, fuck all the PG-13 apologists. I got some good news. Denzel's Safe House has been slapped with an R-rating for "strong violence throughout and some language".
Still, it's a sad day we find out that behind Chuck Norris' beard is a pussy.
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9:40AM on 01/18/2012
Really don't see how it matters. I'm seeing it for the action, I stopped being impressed by cursing around age 13.
Really don't see how it matters. I'm seeing it for the action, I stopped being impressed by cursing around age 13.
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9:33AM on 01/18/2012
Use it while you can fellas! The word FUCK is about to be erased from the english vocabulary. If it's not approved by Norris, it cannot exist. SHIT is on his list too...
Use it while you can fellas! The word FUCK is about to be erased from the english vocabulary. If it's not approved by Norris, it cannot exist. SHIT is on his list too...
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9:24AM on 01/18/2012

Really?

You stay classy Schmoes.
You guys probably hi-five each other and clap everytime someone says FUCK in a movie. And we wonder why kids are braty, ill mannered little a holes when they have people like you who want them to hear foul language over seeing a little violence. yeah okay.
You stay classy Schmoes.
You guys probably hi-five each other and clap everytime someone says FUCK in a movie. And we wonder why kids are braty, ill mannered little a holes when they have people like you who want them to hear foul language over seeing a little violence. yeah okay.
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9:32AM on 01/18/2012
That's the whole fucking point of a fucking R-rating is that fucking kids aren't fucking admitted and don't fucking hear the fucking foul fucking language.
That's the whole fucking point of a fucking R-rating is that fucking kids aren't fucking admitted and don't fucking hear the fucking foul fucking language.
9:09AM on 01/18/2012

Overreact much?

Wow, do you guys overreact much? First off, this "scoop" is based off something said in a foreign publication. Could be made up, could be the result of broken english/translation language barriers, could be anything. Hardly the most credible source out there, considering I'd never heard of it until today.
Secondly, even IF Chuck really said all that, it mentions NOTHING about the actual content of the movie, action and violence-wise. So it might have a few less "f**k"s or "sh*t"s... so what?
Wow, do you guys overreact much? First off, this "scoop" is based off something said in a foreign publication. Could be made up, could be the result of broken english/translation language barriers, could be anything. Hardly the most credible source out there, considering I'd never heard of it until today.
Secondly, even IF Chuck really said all that, it mentions NOTHING about the actual content of the movie, action and violence-wise. So it might have a few less "f**k"s or "sh*t"s... so what? As Rob Zombie proves, having all that certainly does NOT make a movie better. Getting rid of it is hardly "toning down" a movie if the action remains guns a-blazing and full of blood and explosions. The fact that we KNOW Terry Crews' gun from the first one is in this should pretty much tell you it's going to be chewing up baddies again in glorious, over-the-top style.
Lastly, Chuck Norris hasn't headlined a major theatrical film since Top Dog. The "facts" definitely put Norris back on the map, but hardly gave him the kind of pull to be able to change an entire film on the stipulation that he takes part in it. It's crazy to even think that for a second, folks. Expendables 2 will be Rated R. Mark my words.
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9:04AM on 01/18/2012
A new meme is born.

Chuck Norris is a pussy.
A new meme is born.

Chuck Norris is a pussy.
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8:49AM on 01/18/2012

heh

Not surprising. He's probably realized that while this whole "no ones tougher then Chuck Norris" internet persona he has it won't pay his bills. So now it's looking like he want to make a come back and be the white Jackie Chan. And by that i mean a kung fu guy who sold out to do a bunch of kiddie movies to make but loads of money.
Not surprising. He's probably realized that while this whole "no ones tougher then Chuck Norris" internet persona he has it won't pay his bills. So now it's looking like he want to make a come back and be the white Jackie Chan. And by that i mean a kung fu guy who sold out to do a bunch of kiddie movies to make but loads of money.
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8:15AM on 01/18/2012

Real talk:

"Expendables" kinda sucked, but sucked in the kinda way a lot of cheesy '80s action flicks sucks. It offered one thing: retro, manly violence -- and it offered it in an updated, sleeker package. That was about all it was good for, and that's about what people expected from it. So, it worked.

To take that very essence away from it, and reduce the film from an R to a PG-13 rating, is basically undermining the *entire point* of the film. To have such a solid cast of hardcore '80s action heroes
"Expendables" kinda sucked, but sucked in the kinda way a lot of cheesy '80s action flicks sucks. It offered one thing: retro, manly violence -- and it offered it in an updated, sleeker package. That was about all it was good for, and that's about what people expected from it. So, it worked.

To take that very essence away from it, and reduce the film from an R to a PG-13 rating, is basically undermining the *entire point* of the film. To have such a solid cast of hardcore '80s action heroes -- in fact, this one has even more has-beens than the last one, which makes it even more prime for exploiting its stars' reputations -- and drop the saturated violence is to take away the punchline from a joke.

And speaking of jokes: see what your shitty Chuck Norris jokes did? The poor guy probably thinks people actually like his stiff acting now or something. For such a hardcore religious freak, you'd think he'd be happy with the body he believes God has chosen to give him; hey Chuck, why all the facelifts, Botox, hair colouring products and investment in body-workout products? Shouldn't you be happy with what God gave you and stop trying to change the way you naturally look? Nice beard, asshole.
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8:14AM on 01/18/2012
As long as it's better than the first film, I wouldn't care. It was one of the biggest disappointments for me and I hope the 2nd one makes up for it.
As long as it's better than the first film, I wouldn't care. It was one of the biggest disappointments for me and I hope the 2nd one makes up for it.
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8:14AM on 01/18/2012
Chuck Norris is nothing but a gimmick popularized by people making fun of Walker Texas Ranger and of him on the internet. The Expendables was made popular because people wanted more of what they saw in Rambo 4. And none of any of that was PG-13. And please, find me the mass of teenagers who are dying to see Chuck Norris.
Chuck Norris is nothing but a gimmick popularized by people making fun of Walker Texas Ranger and of him on the internet. The Expendables was made popular because people wanted more of what they saw in Rambo 4. And none of any of that was PG-13. And please, find me the mass of teenagers who are dying to see Chuck Norris.
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7:45AM on 01/18/2012
I would call chuck norris for this but then i endanger my life so i'll wait and see
I would call chuck norris for this but then i endanger my life so i'll wait and see
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7:25AM on 01/18/2012
I wonder if there'd be a scene of Chuck Norris using his exercise machine that he used to be a presenter for an infomercial channel. Can't remember the name but if it's there, it'd be very funny.
I wonder if there'd be a scene of Chuck Norris using his exercise machine that he used to be a presenter for an infomercial channel. Can't remember the name but if it's there, it'd be very funny.
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6:29AM on 01/18/2012

rofl

fuckin Chuck Norris, hahahaha, now we know who the ultimate bad ass is.
fuckin Chuck Norris, hahahaha, now we know who the ultimate bad ass is.
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6:16AM on 01/18/2012
Wow, thereīs a lot of hate for the Chuck out there! I remember those fanboy casting lists floating around after the 1st part and that guy who sucked so much an lacks personality (yeah, personality was a big draw for actionfans in the 80īs) was on every single one! So fuck off! And as it comes to the language? If thatīs all, who cares? The dialogue in the fist one wasnīt that great to begin with. And if that statement (from a translated article in a paper now one ever heard about before) is
Wow, thereīs a lot of hate for the Chuck out there! I remember those fanboy casting lists floating around after the 1st part and that guy who sucked so much an lacks personality (yeah, personality was a big draw for actionfans in the 80īs) was on every single one! So fuck off! And as it comes to the language? If thatīs all, who cares? The dialogue in the fist one wasnīt that great to begin with. And if that statement (from a translated article in a paper now one ever heard about before) is true, then blame the producers, not a single actor!!!
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4:49AM on 01/18/2012
Casino Royale was a PG-13, very violent and... how much profanity was in that film? *If* the writing is good it shouldn't matter. As long as the script is good and Arnold says "bull-shit" at some point, I'll be a happy man.
Casino Royale was a PG-13, very violent and... how much profanity was in that film? *If* the writing is good it shouldn't matter. As long as the script is good and Arnold says "bull-shit" at some point, I'll be a happy man.
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5:01AM on 01/18/2012
So was the Dark Knight, but both TDK and Casino Royale were action movies with substance.
So was the Dark Knight, but both TDK and Casino Royale were action movies with substance.
6:30AM on 01/18/2012
substance you say?
substance you say?
12:33PM on 01/18/2012
I thought X-Men:FC was quite violent also, the PG-13 ain't what it used to be.
I thought X-Men:FC was quite violent also, the PG-13 ain't what it used to be.
4:02AM on 01/18/2012
F*cking Chuck Norris
F*cking Chuck Norris
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4:02AM on 01/18/2012
Steve McQueen had it right on his press tour for Shame when he asked "Why do things like strong language and sexual situations put off so many people but ultra violence doesn't?" I cuss every day and all of us (hopefully) will have a sexual experiences in our lives but I've never shot a gun or used extreme measures to kill anyone in my life and I hope I (and many others)never have to. Chuck Norris isn't a quality actor, he's an internet meme that gained steam because of his ridiculousness. I
Steve McQueen had it right on his press tour for Shame when he asked "Why do things like strong language and sexual situations put off so many people but ultra violence doesn't?" I cuss every day and all of us (hopefully) will have a sexual experiences in our lives but I've never shot a gun or used extreme measures to kill anyone in my life and I hope I (and many others)never have to. Chuck Norris isn't a quality actor, he's an internet meme that gained steam because of his ridiculousness. I don't think any actor should have the right to damage a property because of their hangups.
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3:25AM on 01/18/2012

Meh... dont believe it just yet.

and they did NOT say "NO cursing", ok!??
The first one was "R" and well... check this out: Rated R for strong action and bloody violence throughout, and for some language.
SOME LANGUAGE??? that is from IMDB's page for The Expendables, noting that they STILL got the "R" for "some language" it was only for the bloody violence that it was rated "R" in the first place!!!!!
As long as they do away with the shaky cam action scenes that totally made the finale of the first one worthless then it
and they did NOT say "NO cursing", ok!??
The first one was "R" and well... check this out: Rated R for strong action and bloody violence throughout, and for some language.
SOME LANGUAGE??? that is from IMDB's page for The Expendables, noting that they STILL got the "R" for "some language" it was only for the bloody violence that it was rated "R" in the first place!!!!!
As long as they do away with the shaky cam action scenes that totally made the finale of the first one worthless then it should still be good, I think it's too early to say Norris is "to blame" considering the movie isn't even rated yet (is it even finished?)
I'm still kinda miffed that Rourke wont be in it AND Jet Li takes a dive... what crap... not Norris, he's cool.
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2:41AM on 01/18/2012

I don't care as long as it doesn't make it cheesy

Sometimes I think directors throw bad language in a movie like this just cause they can. If the script is solid does it really need a lot of bad language, and does that language really make it all that much better? As long as they can replace the four letter words with words that don't sound cheesy than I don't really care.
Sometimes I think directors throw bad language in a movie like this just cause they can. If the script is solid does it really need a lot of bad language, and does that language really make it all that much better? As long as they can replace the four letter words with words that don't sound cheesy than I don't really care.
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2:33AM on 01/18/2012
We certainly wouldn't want to have any vulgarity mixed in with our death and destruction.
We certainly wouldn't want to have any vulgarity mixed in with our death and destruction.
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2:14AM on 01/18/2012
You don't "need" vulgar language to make this film still be as good as we are all hoping. However, theres more swearing in a night out, or in a bar fight... Soo to hear PG words inserted into this full blown testosterone should be R film... Just doesn't sit rite, and won't come off really as it should.

but nothings official yet
You don't "need" vulgar language to make this film still be as good as we are all hoping. However, theres more swearing in a night out, or in a bar fight... Soo to hear PG words inserted into this full blown testosterone should be R film... Just doesn't sit rite, and won't come off really as it should.

but nothings official yet
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1:41AM on 01/18/2012

Chuck Norris is officially a pussy

God, what a vagina
God, what a vagina
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1:38AM on 01/18/2012
Chuck Norris stinks. How about you take a moment and thank all those ironic hipster college liberals you hate so much for inventing the meme that gave you something resembling a career these past five years?

Chuck Norris blows and deserves zero comparison to any of the other stars of this movie. Never starred in one legitimately good movie (even Van Damme has JCVD to his name) has zero charisma onscreen and is a tinfoil hat birther offscreen.
Chuck Norris stinks. How about you take a moment and thank all those ironic hipster college liberals you hate so much for inventing the meme that gave you something resembling a career these past five years?

Chuck Norris blows and deserves zero comparison to any of the other stars of this movie. Never starred in one legitimately good movie (even Van Damme has JCVD to his name) has zero charisma onscreen and is a tinfoil hat birther offscreen.
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1:53AM on 01/18/2012
Ironic hipster college liberals can't really be thanked for much of anything. They mainly just smell.
Ironic hipster college liberals can't really be thanked for much of anything. They mainly just smell.
2:45AM on 01/18/2012
hmmm.. get your facts straight pal! He's been in plenty of good movies. missing in action, Missing in Action 2: The Beginning, Delta Force, Delta Force 2, just to name a few.
hmmm.. get your facts straight pal! He's been in plenty of good movies. missing in action, Missing in Action 2: The Beginning, Delta Force, Delta Force 2, just to name a few.
10:32AM on 01/18/2012
I rest my case. Fuckin' none of those are actually good movies. They only work as jingoistic 80s cheese. He has no First Blood, no Terminator, no Die Hard, no Once Upon a Time in China to his name like the other stars of this flick.
I rest my case. Fuckin' none of those are actually good movies. They only work as jingoistic 80s cheese. He has no First Blood, no Terminator, no Die Hard, no Once Upon a Time in China to his name like the other stars of this flick.
2:43PM on 01/18/2012
So he made no "classics", neither did Van Damme, Lundgren and Seagal but they still got a big fanbase. So whatÂīs your fucking point?
So he made no "classics", neither did Van Damme, Lundgren and Seagal but they still got a big fanbase. So whatÂīs your fucking point?
1:26AM on 01/18/2012
Chuck Norris says fuck you to foul language. That's pretty disappointing though. Not that I need foul language to make a movie good, but an R-rating allows the filmmakers more freedom, and can change the tone of the movie.
Chuck Norris says fuck you to foul language. That's pretty disappointing though. Not that I need foul language to make a movie good, but an R-rating allows the filmmakers more freedom, and can change the tone of the movie.
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1:13AM on 01/18/2012

Let's get some official confirmation,

shall we? Oh shit, I forgot I'm on an internet forum. Sorry about that; keep reaching for the pitchforks and torches, folks.
shall we? Oh shit, I forgot I'm on an internet forum. Sorry about that; keep reaching for the pitchforks and torches, folks.
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1:08AM on 01/18/2012
Totally not worth it.
Totally not worth it.
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12:50AM on 01/18/2012
Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain?
Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain?
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12:46AM on 01/18/2012
Chuck Norris the Internet meme is a much cooler guy than Chuck Norris the real person.
Chuck Norris the Internet meme is a much cooler guy than Chuck Norris the real person.
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1:30AM on 01/18/2012
Yes, the real person is a right wing moralist nutjob with exactly zero personality on screen or off.
Yes, the real person is a right wing moralist nutjob with exactly zero personality on screen or off.
12:41AM on 01/18/2012

I don't buy it.

But even if it was true, who gives a shit? A couple of "fuck you"s and "shit"s and such aren't going to make or break the movie. Chuck obviously has no problem with violence, looking at his film history, so the film would be otherwise unaffected.
But even if it was true, who gives a shit? A couple of "fuck you"s and "shit"s and such aren't going to make or break the movie. Chuck obviously has no problem with violence, looking at his film history, so the film would be otherwise unaffected.
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12:36AM on 01/18/2012
FACT: the only thing Norris ever did that was memorable was get his ass kicked by Bruce Lee.
FACT: the only thing Norris ever did that was memorable was get his ass kicked by Bruce Lee.
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12:29AM on 01/18/2012

This sounds like crap

Chuck Norris has that kinda pull only in his facts, not Hollywoood.
Chuck Norris has that kinda pull only in his facts, not Hollywoood.
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12:18AM on 01/18/2012
I know people are enamored with the whole "chuck norris is a bad mofo" but is he really so big a draw to this movie that they start giving into his demands? I guess I've just never understood his appeal, I never watched a movie of his as a kid, never until I saw him with bruce lee. But Expendables sort of worked because it was over the top.
I know people are enamored with the whole "chuck norris is a bad mofo" but is he really so big a draw to this movie that they start giving into his demands? I guess I've just never understood his appeal, I never watched a movie of his as a kid, never until I saw him with bruce lee. But Expendables sort of worked because it was over the top.
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12:09AM on 01/18/2012
If this is true...fuck chuck norris. woulda rathered Jackie Chan anyway...wtf is this asshole? He's only recognizable to me due to Bruce lee anyway...wtf? this was a priveleged opportunity for him to be part of a union of sorts...if this info is true, FUCK HIM!!!!! He's not down for vulgure labguage, but promotes violence in his movies which are ALL violent movies. double standard ass bastard
If this is true...fuck chuck norris. woulda rathered Jackie Chan anyway...wtf is this asshole? He's only recognizable to me due to Bruce lee anyway...wtf? this was a priveleged opportunity for him to be part of a union of sorts...if this info is true, FUCK HIM!!!!! He's not down for vulgure labguage, but promotes violence in his movies which are ALL violent movies. double standard ass bastard
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11:31PM on 01/17/2012
I fucking hate Chuck Norris and all of his awful movies. I loved The Expendables but come on, the last thing a movie like this needs is to be toned DOWN. Bah. He's a moron.
I fucking hate Chuck Norris and all of his awful movies. I loved The Expendables but come on, the last thing a movie like this needs is to be toned DOWN. Bah. He's a moron.
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11:17AM on 01/18/2012
Apparently people like this self-righteous, homophobic, and above all else untalented douchebag? Fascinating.
Apparently people like this self-righteous, homophobic, and above all else untalented douchebag? Fascinating.
11:16PM on 01/17/2012
First one sucked and so will this one. If only they didn't make the first one so cheesy. This one seems like an improvement over the first already with a better cast, but I am not holding my breath nor is it getting my $10.
First one sucked and so will this one. If only they didn't make the first one so cheesy. This one seems like an improvement over the first already with a better cast, but I am not holding my breath nor is it getting my $10.
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12:37PM on 01/18/2012
seems you have sold yourself out cuz of all the cirticism you get, i seem to remember you liking the first one, way to try to fit in dude.
seems you have sold yourself out cuz of all the cirticism you get, i seem to remember you liking the first one, way to try to fit in dude.
11:07PM on 01/17/2012

FACT:

Chuck Norris' long running Walker Texas Ranger was the most violent series on television during its run in a pre-HBO originals world AND is still top of the heap for total acts of violence depicted on the series. Just because the show espoused Christian values and G-rated humor in the down time scenes between Walker and his fellow rangers, doesn't change the fact that the stories of villains were some of the most depraved, violent and depressing on television, plus the fact that every problem
Chuck Norris' long running Walker Texas Ranger was the most violent series on television during its run in a pre-HBO originals world AND is still top of the heap for total acts of violence depicted on the series. Just because the show espoused Christian values and G-rated humor in the down time scenes between Walker and his fellow rangers, doesn't change the fact that the stories of villains were some of the most depraved, violent and depressing on television, plus the fact that every problem was solved through unrealistic violence, the kind that could give impressionable kids the wrong idea about to to settle their problems and the danger (or lackthereof) of making things physical. And yet Norris cares about a few fucks, shits and hells... WTF.
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11:03PM on 01/17/2012
He's hardcore Christian Conservative. I'm not surprised.
He's hardcore Christian Conservative. I'm not surprised.
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11:00PM on 01/17/2012
So what if it is PG-13 because they didn't want vulgar language? It doesn't add to the story to say fuck you cunt bitch whore shit eating cockasaurus!

It adds nothing
So what if it is PG-13 because they didn't want vulgar language? It doesn't add to the story to say fuck you cunt bitch whore shit eating cockasaurus!

It adds nothing
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2:49AM on 01/18/2012
exactly what I thought
exactly what I thought
5:03AM on 01/18/2012
Some of the greatest writers of our time - Tarantino, Mamet, Woody Allen - would disagree with you.
Some of the greatest writers of our time - Tarantino, Mamet, Woody Allen - would disagree with you.
10:51PM on 01/17/2012
It's too bad they didn't write that sensibility into his character, kind of like the John Glenn character in The Right Stuff.
Having said that, the only real question left to us is when is the MPAA going to be dissolved?
It's too bad they didn't write that sensibility into his character, kind of like the John Glenn character in The Right Stuff.
Having said that, the only real question left to us is when is the MPAA going to be dissolved?
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10:48PM on 01/17/2012

What a dumbass.

He'd rather kids see violence, than hear vulgar language. Fuck you Chuck Norris!
He'd rather kids see violence, than hear vulgar language. Fuck you Chuck Norris!
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10:43PM on 01/17/2012

Hold the phone.

Bear in mind, fellas, the first Expendables had a major pg-13 buzz as well, but it was all denied later on. Chuck could just be talking out of his ass at this point. The guy's lost his marbles.

...at least I hope that's the case.
Bear in mind, fellas, the first Expendables had a major pg-13 buzz as well, but it was all denied later on. Chuck could just be talking out of his ass at this point. The guy's lost his marbles.

...at least I hope that's the case.
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10:40PM on 01/17/2012
FUCK PG-13
FUCK PG-13
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10:35PM on 01/17/2012

TROLOLOL

I might as well be listening to the TROLOLOL song while reading this article. JOBLO editors shouldn't waste our time with these kind of ludicrous articles. This article probably has the same weight as the one that said Matt Damon died in a freak hiking accident.
I might as well be listening to the TROLOLOL song while reading this article. JOBLO editors shouldn't waste our time with these kind of ludicrous articles. This article probably has the same weight as the one that said Matt Damon died in a freak hiking accident.
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2:02AM on 01/18/2012
And if this article wasn't posted, you would be seeing comments on other articles complaining that joblo hadn't covered this story yet..
And if this article wasn't posted, you would be seeing comments on other articles complaining that joblo hadn't covered this story yet..
10:29PM on 01/17/2012
This film cannot lose its edge over the demands of a 70yo has-been, who's entire career in the 80s was built on R-rated motherfucking movies.
This film cannot lose its edge over the demands of a 70yo has-been, who's entire career in the 80s was built on R-rated motherfucking movies.
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10:28PM on 01/17/2012
So Chuck is ok with young people watching people get punched, kicked, shot, stabbed, blown-up, and beat to a bloody pulp, as long as they don't have to hear a few f-bombs?
So Chuck is ok with young people watching people get punched, kicked, shot, stabbed, blown-up, and beat to a bloody pulp, as long as they don't have to hear a few f-bombs?
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10:24PM on 01/17/2012

Really

It will probably be just as violent just not tons of profanity. There really wasn't a whole lot in the first even outside of the church scene.
It will probably be just as violent just not tons of profanity. There really wasn't a whole lot in the first even outside of the church scene.
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10:17PM on 01/17/2012
I think a great (even R-rated) action movie can be made with minor vulgarity. Oddly enough I really have to scratch my head to remember the vulgarity in "The Expendables." I know it was there, but the only line I remember was when Mr. Church is threatening Barney. I mainly remember that, maybe apart from Statham, the profanity felt forced, as in, Stallone is in John Wayne mode, and throwing the f-bomb out in essentially a John Wayne role felt forced. Norris didn't say he got them to tone the
I think a great (even R-rated) action movie can be made with minor vulgarity. Oddly enough I really have to scratch my head to remember the vulgarity in "The Expendables." I know it was there, but the only line I remember was when Mr. Church is threatening Barney. I mainly remember that, maybe apart from Statham, the profanity felt forced, as in, Stallone is in John Wayne mode, and throwing the f-bomb out in essentially a John Wayne role felt forced. Norris didn't say he got them to tone the violence down. Wonder what'll happen when/if Stallone once again gives the fans what they want.
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10:21PM on 01/17/2012
Yeah, I'm with you...i genuinely only remember Sly saying "Shit" once, maybe twice and some innuendo about deflating balls.
Yeah, I'm with you...i genuinely only remember Sly saying "Shit" once, maybe twice and some innuendo about deflating balls.
12:32AM on 01/18/2012
same...the cursing is outta character for Barney Ross if he's dropping em all over the place...was more in character for Eric Roberts' role.
same...the cursing is outta character for Barney Ross if he's dropping em all over the place...was more in character for Eric Roberts' role.
10:13PM on 01/17/2012

The most hilarious part though...

The first movie was supposed to be the ultimate violent action flick yet compared to the last RAMBO movie, it was a kids flick.
The first movie was supposed to be the ultimate violent action flick yet compared to the last RAMBO movie, it was a kids flick.
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10:09PM on 01/17/2012

Tidbit: R rating

Part of what made The Expendables so awesome was how over the top violent it was. Personally, I think this is Norris stroking his ego. The first one was a successful R-rated movie, I doubt they'd alter the rating just to appease him.
Part of what made The Expendables so awesome was how over the top violent it was. Personally, I think this is Norris stroking his ego. The first one was a successful R-rated movie, I doubt they'd alter the rating just to appease him.
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10:11PM on 01/17/2012
but i can see them toning it down to get more people in to the theatres to see it.
but i can see them toning it down to get more people in to the theatres to see it.
10:06PM on 01/17/2012
I certainly hope this isn't true. It is a rough sounding translation. Maybe Norris was just referring to his character's dialogue being too vulgar and them just cutting that down to PG-13. That's what I hope anyway.
I certainly hope this isn't true. It is a rough sounding translation. Maybe Norris was just referring to his character's dialogue being too vulgar and them just cutting that down to PG-13. That's what I hope anyway.
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10:06PM on 01/17/2012
I don't believe it at all. I can't see one actor out of the entire cast determining the overall rating and content of the film, especially when being hard R was so profitable for the first film.
I take this with a microscopic grain of salt. I seriously doubt the producers gave in to demands that extreme just to have Chuck in it.
Oh by the way Chuck, fuckity fuck fuck fuckity fuck fuck! Did that offend you cause I don't care.
I don't believe it at all. I can't see one actor out of the entire cast determining the overall rating and content of the film, especially when being hard R was so profitable for the first film.
I take this with a microscopic grain of salt. I seriously doubt the producers gave in to demands that extreme just to have Chuck in it.
Oh by the way Chuck, fuckity fuck fuck fuckity fuck fuck! Did that offend you cause I don't care.
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