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James Cameron hopes that Avatar 2 will prove that the first one was no fluke

12.11.2015

Six years later and James Cameron's AVATAR is still the most profitable film in the world by quite a large margin. A sequel was pretty much a no-brainer but when it was revealed that Cameron was working on not one, but three, additional sequels to AVATAR, it seemed excessive. AVATAR obviously has its fans and the sheer spectacle of seeing the world of Pandora up on the big-screen was an unequaled experience, but three more sequels? James Cameron seems aware that he can't simply repeat what he did before; while speaking to Entertainment Weekly he expressed his desire for the sequel(s) to prove that AVATAR was no fluke.

Obviously, expectations are going to be very high on these films, especially on Avatar 2, to make sure it wasn’t just some big fluke the first time. So we’ve got to deliver. I’ve created a nice rod for my own back, so they say.

Work on the AVATAR sequels has been underway in some form ever since the first film was released and four different screenwriters have been working with James Cameron on each of the sequels which will film simultaneously. Cameron updated EW on where he and his team are at in the development process.

I’m in the process of doing another pass through all three scripts right now, just refining. That’s in parallel with the design process. The design process is very mature at this point. We’ve been designing for about a year and a half. All the characters, settings and creatures are all pretty much [set].

The first of the AVATAR sequels is expected to be released in late 2017.

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7:31PM on 12/14/2015
Great for all the people that enjoyed Avatar, I certainly was not one of them. The first time I heard about the movie was through a free poster I'd received in the packaging of the big Rancor released in 2009. I had no idea what the poster was advertising, it looked like a video game I'd have no interest in playing. The best part of the film for me was when the bad guy in his robot suit pulled out a giant knife. I burst out laughing in the theater.
Great for all the people that enjoyed Avatar, I certainly was not one of them. The first time I heard about the movie was through a free poster I'd received in the packaging of the big Rancor released in 2009. I had no idea what the poster was advertising, it looked like a video game I'd have no interest in playing. The best part of the film for me was when the bad guy in his robot suit pulled out a giant knife. I burst out laughing in the theater.
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5:39PM on 12/14/2015
The only reason avatar made the money it did was because it was left in theaters during the dump months and it ran for over 6 months and had 2 IMAX re releases. These sequels will under perform. Only the closed minded fools who are too stupid to realize this is a rip off of Pocahontas and dances with wolves. Not to mention the acting was pretty bad! Sam Worthington sucks. There's a reason we don't see that dude anymore.
The only reason avatar made the money it did was because it was left in theaters during the dump months and it ran for over 6 months and had 2 IMAX re releases. These sequels will under perform. Only the closed minded fools who are too stupid to realize this is a rip off of Pocahontas and dances with wolves. Not to mention the acting was pretty bad! Sam Worthington sucks. There's a reason we don't see that dude anymore.
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9:21AM on 12/14/2015
I swear, every few months he just makes a point to get out in front of the media to remind people that Avatar is still a thing. Given what all other studios have been doing in the time since Avatar came out, is anyone really anticipating Avatar 2? I mean, we have the MCU, an entire new Star Wars saga debuts next week, for the first time ever we'll be getting Batman and Superman in one movie. That's not even counting the other action/blockbuster films that have come out which not only pushed
I swear, every few months he just makes a point to get out in front of the media to remind people that Avatar is still a thing. Given what all other studios have been doing in the time since Avatar came out, is anyone really anticipating Avatar 2? I mean, we have the MCU, an entire new Star Wars saga debuts next week, for the first time ever we'll be getting Batman and Superman in one movie. That's not even counting the other action/blockbuster films that have come out which not only pushed the boundaries in terms of story/content, but also the way movies are filmed. I just don't think audiences really care about the world of Avatar 10 years later, nor Cameron's technology for 3D which hasn't really been prominent since Avatar (I know a lot of movies do #D rendering, but does anyone really care?).

No matter what story he comes up with, I think it will be a total bust. He's dragged his feet for too long, the heat on Avatar has cooled off and audiences have moved on. I mean, it's been 7 years since the first movie came out and he's been working on the sequel since Avatar's release, and he's only now gotten characters and design work completed? There's still A LOT more work to get done to actually have this filmed. So Cameron's pet project just hasn't kept up with audiences interest. I'm predicting a total bust when Avatar 2 debuts.
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8:53AM on 12/14/2015
Cameron knows what he's doing - cinematic history has plenty of evidence to that effect. Could him double or triple-dipping back into Avatar be his first massive screw-up? Tough call really. The first film made serious bank as it ushered in and milked the resurgence of 3D cinema which has significantly slipped out of favour in recent years. Unless Cameron's doing something clever with the format, he can't rely on the same numbers again. For additional Avatar films he doesn't have to spend so
Cameron knows what he's doing - cinematic history has plenty of evidence to that effect. Could him double or triple-dipping back into Avatar be his first massive screw-up? Tough call really. The first film made serious bank as it ushered in and milked the resurgence of 3D cinema which has significantly slipped out of favour in recent years. Unless Cameron's doing something clever with the format, he can't rely on the same numbers again. For additional Avatar films he doesn't have to spend so much screen-time explaining the concept and setting everything up, so perhaps what people perceived as a dearth of story or predictable narrative last time around won't be an issue here. It's tough to say whether Avatar could ever really have the massive fan-base the first film's numbers hinted at.
Bottom line, if Cameron has a good enough story to warrant further films I think people will still want to see them - I'm just not sure the lack of characters people genuinely love from the first film is something he can easily overcome. (which is to say - did the first film actually have any characters that people really liked?)
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10:24AM on 12/13/2015
Guys, what is this nonsense about most people not liking the first film? Outside of the movie fanatics like ourselves, it is quite evident and obvious that most of the mainstream movie-going public really liked the film. Sure, some of us prefer more character development and more original ideas in our movies, but the mainstream audience doesn't necessarily need that all the time. They need a movie to fulfill at least one basic requirement, to entertain, and entertain is exactly what this movie
Guys, what is this nonsense about most people not liking the first film? Outside of the movie fanatics like ourselves, it is quite evident and obvious that most of the mainstream movie-going public really liked the film. Sure, some of us prefer more character development and more original ideas in our movies, but the mainstream audience doesn't necessarily need that all the time. They need a movie to fulfill at least one basic requirement, to entertain, and entertain is exactly what this movie did in spades. Why do you think the fast and furious franchise is so successful? Are those movies objectively good? Maybe not, but most audiences enjoyed them and there's little doubt about that.
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11:53PM on 12/12/2015
I used to look forward to James Cameron films. Even after TITANIC, I thought "Well, you can't always make a winner." Too bad he's building on his losing streak.
I used to look forward to James Cameron films. Even after TITANIC, I thought "Well, you can't always make a winner." Too bad he's building on his losing streak.
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9:34PM on 12/12/2015
I could honestly care less at this point. I'm sure I'll see it when it comes out, but I didn't give a crap about the first one. The visuals were great, sure, but it was a borrowed, boring story that I haven't revisited since.
I could honestly care less at this point. I'm sure I'll see it when it comes out, but I didn't give a crap about the first one. The visuals were great, sure, but it was a borrowed, boring story that I haven't revisited since.
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4:38PM on 12/12/2015
Are you guys so far stuck up your own assholes that you're actually believing your own bullshit. Eveybody outside of you 15 or so Jerks loved AVATAR. Just because a few of you curmudgeons go on line and bashes something, doesn't make it true. And actually thinking it's going to fail because you few supposedly didn't like it, is hilarious. Get a life.
Are you guys so far stuck up your own assholes that you're actually believing your own bullshit. Eveybody outside of you 15 or so Jerks loved AVATAR. Just because a few of you curmudgeons go on line and bashes something, doesn't make it true. And actually thinking it's going to fail because you few supposedly didn't like it, is hilarious. Get a life.
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8:24PM on 12/12/2015
Um....most people didn't like Avatar. It was the most mocked film of all time due to it's simpleton script and one-dimensional stereotype characters (that were "borrowed" from other films). What it did have was a magnificent visual appeal that made people go back again and again. I saw it in IMAX with my daughter, and it was a wonderful experience. Then as we were leaving the theater, my 8 year-old turned to me and asked why all the characters started acting so stupidly in the last half of
Um....most people didn't like Avatar. It was the most mocked film of all time due to it's simpleton script and one-dimensional stereotype characters (that were "borrowed" from other films). What it did have was a magnificent visual appeal that made people go back again and again. I saw it in IMAX with my daughter, and it was a wonderful experience. Then as we were leaving the theater, my 8 year-old turned to me and asked why all the characters started acting so stupidly in the last half of the film.
5:43PM on 12/14/2015
I think you need to get a life bro. Lol
I think you need to get a life bro. Lol
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11:13AM on 12/12/2015
This'll turn out to be one of those sequels where way too much time has passed for people to really care. Lightning will definitely not strike twice for Avatar and it will surely not make nearly as much money. Will it make some money? Sure. But definitely not as much as the 1st. I'm calling it.
This'll turn out to be one of those sequels where way too much time has passed for people to really care. Lightning will definitely not strike twice for Avatar and it will surely not make nearly as much money. Will it make some money? Sure. But definitely not as much as the 1st. I'm calling it.
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9:52AM on 12/12/2015
I still don't understand why he waited six years for this. Avatar was a milestone in mo-cap special effects and 3-D technology. Today that's pretty much the norm. Between the successes of Titanic and Avatar, I'm generally of the opinion I don't know what audiences like when it comes to Cameron. Both movies were okay, and technically magnificent, but don't hold up as well under repeat viewings.
I still don't understand why he waited six years for this. Avatar was a milestone in mo-cap special effects and 3-D technology. Today that's pretty much the norm. Between the successes of Titanic and Avatar, I'm generally of the opinion I don't know what audiences like when it comes to Cameron. Both movies were okay, and technically magnificent, but don't hold up as well under repeat viewings.
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9:19AM on 12/12/2015
Oh if only he'd just let this go and direct Battle Angel Alita instead of handing it over to someone else...
Oh if only he'd just let this go and direct Battle Angel Alita instead of handing it over to someone else...
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5:09AM on 12/12/2015
First one is definitely a fluke.people went to see this because of the overhyped 3D thing and post-Titanic craze.Cameron may be waiting for the ticket prices to go up to release the sequel so that it could match to the collections of Avatar
First one is definitely a fluke.people went to see this because of the overhyped 3D thing and post-Titanic craze.Cameron may be waiting for the ticket prices to go up to release the sequel so that it could match to the collections of Avatar
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10:49AM on 12/12/2015
The film made as much money as it did because of repeat viewings though. A lot of peopled liked it, some didn't.
The film made as much money as it did because of repeat viewings though. A lot of peopled liked it, some didn't.
8:32PM on 12/12/2015
Agreed. The movie itself was awful on paper, but the visuals were spectacular. But I've seen the visuals. Since I know Cameron is incapable of making a good movie about the subject, I have no doubt these are going to bomb. What'll be really funny is seeing the studio scramble if the first one makes less than 1/2 of the original.
Agreed. The movie itself was awful on paper, but the visuals were spectacular. But I've seen the visuals. Since I know Cameron is incapable of making a good movie about the subject, I have no doubt these are going to bomb. What'll be really funny is seeing the studio scramble if the first one makes less than 1/2 of the original.
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4:39AM on 12/12/2015
I need to rewatch avatar as I only saw hit once and I cannot remember it.
I need to rewatch avatar as I only saw hit once and I cannot remember it.
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8:29PM on 12/12/2015
It's about a bunch of wonderful, nature-loving blue native-Pandorans who are set upon by greedy white men from Earth who just want to exploit their minerals for money (despite their planet dying, which would mean that there was no one to sell the minerals to). Sadly, that's the entire plot for a 2 1/2 hour movie about the most paper thin characters since It's A Wonderful Life.
It's about a bunch of wonderful, nature-loving blue native-Pandorans who are set upon by greedy white men from Earth who just want to exploit their minerals for money (despite their planet dying, which would mean that there was no one to sell the minerals to). Sadly, that's the entire plot for a 2 1/2 hour movie about the most paper thin characters since It's A Wonderful Life.
9:33AM on 12/13/2015
Cheers man, won't be rushing to watch it anytime soon.
Cheers man, won't be rushing to watch it anytime soon.
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2:02AM on 12/12/2015

AVATAR 2 . etc might break a billion, but that's about it

note people --- Avatar makes a billion due to IMAX ticket sells, because it was something news --- Now that everyone has shaken off the imax experimence, me think people are not going to flock as before! Besides, new champ in the horizons .. shhh, don't tell anyone it's SW -- LOL
note people --- Avatar makes a billion due to IMAX ticket sells, because it was something news --- Now that everyone has shaken off the imax experimence, me think people are not going to flock as before! Besides, new champ in the horizons .. shhh, don't tell anyone it's SW -- LOL
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10:39PM on 12/11/2015
I don't mind Avatar. I mind that all of these sequels are preventing him from doing other films, genres, storylines, etc.
I don't mind Avatar. I mind that all of these sequels are preventing him from doing other films, genres, storylines, etc.
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8:33PM on 12/12/2015
No, Avatar was a crappy movie. It really sucks that Cameron is so addled that he thinks we are going to shell out for three more of these environmental nut-job spectacles.
No, Avatar was a crappy movie. It really sucks that Cameron is so addled that he thinks we are going to shell out for three more of these environmental nut-job spectacles.
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10:26PM on 12/11/2015

An Environmental Mesage...

.... Aaaaaargh! The Terror of real issues being alluded to!
I need my sci-fi dumb and meaningless!
.... Aaaaaargh! The Terror of real issues being alluded to!
I need my sci-fi dumb and meaningless!
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8:35PM on 12/12/2015
How about having it with realistic characters and complex motivations instead of one-dimensional stereotypes so the hapless director can preach without worrying about anything getting in the way of his activism?
How about having it with realistic characters and complex motivations instead of one-dimensional stereotypes so the hapless director can preach without worrying about anything getting in the way of his activism?
10:02PM on 12/11/2015
So many people did not like the first film that it would be very surprising if it made close to the same kind of business again.
So many people did not like the first film that it would be very surprising if it made close to the same kind of business again.
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5:42PM on 12/14/2015
It only did that business because it ran in the theater for over half a year during the dump months of movies. And they re released it in IMAX twice. That's the only reason.
It only did that business because it ran in the theater for over half a year during the dump months of movies. And they re released it in IMAX twice. That's the only reason.
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9:12PM on 12/11/2015
What he fails to realize is that the reason avatar made so much money is because it was the first of its kind visually, and technically.. 3D etc... The story was really thin and no one that I know will sit down for 2 hours and watch it again... This will fail at the box office, the novelty is long gone..
What he fails to realize is that the reason avatar made so much money is because it was the first of its kind visually, and technically.. 3D etc... The story was really thin and no one that I know will sit down for 2 hours and watch it again... This will fail at the box office, the novelty is long gone..
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1:42AM on 12/12/2015
Do you have many friends who are the "general audiences" for movies? I have some. And I know a few that absolutely loved it (one of these ppl thought paranormal activity was real bc it had no credits). I know a bunch of the "GA" that say Wolvie origins is the best X film. I hear what ur saying but avatar didn't get that box office from movie geeks. And the novelty has worn off? Novelty IS the most bankable thing in Hollywood right now.
Do you have many friends who are the "general audiences" for movies? I have some. And I know a few that absolutely loved it (one of these ppl thought paranormal activity was real bc it had no credits). I know a bunch of the "GA" that say Wolvie origins is the best X film. I hear what ur saying but avatar didn't get that box office from movie geeks. And the novelty has worn off? Novelty IS the most bankable thing in Hollywood right now.
8:49PM on 12/11/2015
Avatar was a pretty cool watch first time I saw it. Took my mom to go see it after and was bored an hour and a half through. All spectacle and a rehashed story. I think it's a solid movie. I watch bits of t when I see it on tv cause some of the action is entertaining. I just hate that the number one movie of all time isn't even a great one. I too am hoping Star Wars dethrones it.
Avatar was a pretty cool watch first time I saw it. Took my mom to go see it after and was bored an hour and a half through. All spectacle and a rehashed story. I think it's a solid movie. I watch bits of t when I see it on tv cause some of the action is entertaining. I just hate that the number one movie of all time isn't even a great one. I too am hoping Star Wars dethrones it.
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8:15PM on 12/11/2015

I almost walked out of Avatar

If I hadn't been with people I would have asked for my money back. Avatar was a tech demo with cliched story that ripped off dances with wolves and last of the mohicans.

Plus bludgeoning everyone in the head with an environmental message.
"Dances with Smurfs" should be a one off and move on.

I PRAY that SW dethrones this piece of crap.
If I hadn't been with people I would have asked for my money back. Avatar was a tech demo with cliched story that ripped off dances with wolves and last of the mohicans.

Plus bludgeoning everyone in the head with an environmental message.
"Dances with Smurfs" should be a one off and move on.

I PRAY that SW dethrones this piece of crap.
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8:37PM on 12/12/2015
I want the sequel to bomb just so we can watch Cameron and the studio scramble trying to salvage the rest of the trilogy.
I want the sequel to bomb just so we can watch Cameron and the studio scramble trying to salvage the rest of the trilogy.
8:10PM on 12/11/2015
Is he actually filming these movies, or has Cameron gone insane and in his head, they've already been released.
Is he actually filming these movies, or has Cameron gone insane and in his head, they've already been released.
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7:20PM on 12/11/2015
I will believe Avatar 2 is going to happen when they actually release it. I feel like we have been talking about the sequel for 5 years, and it is still at the script level. We better get a masterpiece with this much TLC.
I will believe Avatar 2 is going to happen when they actually release it. I feel like we have been talking about the sequel for 5 years, and it is still at the script level. We better get a masterpiece with this much TLC.
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7:13PM on 12/11/2015

cant wait!

don't care for the man personally but he sure knows how to make a handsome looking popcorn movie...
don't care for the man personally but he sure knows how to make a handsome looking popcorn movie...
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8:55PM on 12/11/2015
Agreed, while the story itself was weak, it was a great ride.
Agreed, while the story itself was weak, it was a great ride.
6:59PM on 12/11/2015
Just release the goddamn thing already.
Just release the goddamn thing already.
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6:58PM on 12/11/2015
Time for a new #1. Come on Force Awakens!
Time for a new #1. Come on Force Awakens!
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