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In a recent interview with MTV, director James Cameron weighed in on what he thought the best direction for TERMINATOR 5 was, stating that he believes that the T-800 should be the focus of the film.

"I was talking to him back in fall about a new 'Terminator' film and quietly advising on that," he explained. "I was trying to be as encouraging as possible. Frankly, at that time, I thought it needed to be more about him. I told him he should not do it until it's focused on his character. I think there are some great stories that can be told about that character that haven't even been thought of yet."

With director Justin Lin dropping out of the project to focus on the FAST AND THE FURIOUS franchise, the chair is open to a new filmmaker to take the reigns.  However, it seems that the Terminator series is at a standstill right now, especially with Arnold lining up a number of films to do before donning the biker leather for another outing as the die hard T-800. 

Personally, I think Cameron is right.  We've seen enough of John Conner at this point.  He can easily take a step back as a side character.  I think a great direction would be to focus on a first generation T-800, the model that shaped all of the rest, who has survived longer than any other Terminator (which would account for Arnold's age) and have him end up joining the resistance and fighting against his own kind in the future.

There's a million different ways to go and Cameron is obviously savvy to that.  The best we can hope for is simply a good film and not a "hurry-up-and-make-another-one" retread of similar themes.  The first step would involve hiring a director who can spearhead the film.  My choice is Duncan Jones (SOURCE CODE) who has proven to have a fresh sci-fi vision, which is exactly what the Terminator franchise needs. 

What say you?  Agree or disagree with Cameron?

Extra Tidbit: Let's hear some other good names to direct the franchise...
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11:25PM on 04/19/2012

so yeah

I mostly agree with Cameron
I mostly agree with Cameron
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7:25PM on 04/18/2012
Seriously, can you imagine a 60+ year old Arnold playing the T-whatever? Truth be told I have never been in love with the Terminator franchise since it had none of Arnold's swagger which most of us love so much. I still haven't sat all they way through T3 and Salvation was pretty horrible. I'd love to see Arnold take on more aged and grizzled roles. An aging King Conan script is out there somewhere, but will Hollywood bite after the last Conan bombed?
Seriously, can you imagine a 60+ year old Arnold playing the T-whatever? Truth be told I have never been in love with the Terminator franchise since it had none of Arnold's swagger which most of us love so much. I still haven't sat all they way through T3 and Salvation was pretty horrible. I'd love to see Arnold take on more aged and grizzled roles. An aging King Conan script is out there somewhere, but will Hollywood bite after the last Conan bombed?
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7:45PM on 04/18/2012
Dude, that King Conan script was pretty damn epic. I know it will never get made, but it should.
Dude, that King Conan script was pretty damn epic. I know it will never get made, but it should.
2:07PM on 04/18/2012

Stop

please stop this. It would be much better to wait 15 years and remake it or reboot. Kids will be new to it, parents will remember the old one. But it won't cause conflict.
Instead of making a 5th one to add on to a old and aging classic.

cmon, a 5th? really? a 5th...
please stop this. It would be much better to wait 15 years and remake it or reboot. Kids will be new to it, parents will remember the old one. But it won't cause conflict.
Instead of making a 5th one to add on to a old and aging classic.

cmon, a 5th? really? a 5th...
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2:40PM on 04/18/2012
It's a sad fucking day when movie fans actually encourage remakes. I guess hollywood won. Shove shit down someone's throat long enough and they'll eventually forget its a bad thing.
It's a sad fucking day when movie fans actually encourage remakes. I guess hollywood won. Shove shit down someone's throat long enough and they'll eventually forget its a bad thing.
10:49AM on 04/18/2012
It's kind of hard to do a story about an obsolete model, being as they've decided to one-up themselves with the villain in every iteration.

Also, each T-800 model is destroyed in the first 3 movies - so there is no rogue surviving T-800. Not sure where that came from.

Arnold is too old to play the role. That's the fact. Take the sting and get over it. The idea of a T-800 who simply survived through time and is fighting it's creators is cool, but there's no plot opening for it and
It's kind of hard to do a story about an obsolete model, being as they've decided to one-up themselves with the villain in every iteration.

Also, each T-800 model is destroyed in the first 3 movies - so there is no rogue surviving T-800. Not sure where that came from.

Arnold is too old to play the role. That's the fact. Take the sting and get over it. The idea of a T-800 who simply survived through time and is fighting it's creators is cool, but there's no plot opening for it and Arnold is once again way too old. A robot would not age.

I don't think there's really anything left that needs to be explored in the Terminator universe - but if you REALLY want to make a strong installment you have to let go of the past and create your own, STRONG, dynamic characters and story in that universe.
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8:33AM on 04/18/2012
They need to rehire the cast of Salvation and do a two part story that picks up after where that film left off. Probably won't happen but they should.
They need to rehire the cast of Salvation and do a two part story that picks up after where that film left off. Probably won't happen but they should.
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8:09AM on 04/18/2012
Cameron is a great writer. He has proven that with his scripts for Aliens, Terminator, T2, The Abyss, & Strange Days (which is one of the most intelligent sci-fi scripts to come out of Hollywood). He is also one of the best directors in Hollywood, and his mastery of storytelling is apparent in all of his movies.

Cameron is too talented to waste time on Avatar sequels. Cameron needs to return to what made him great. He needs to go back to the darker, adult oriented, films which he is so good
Cameron is a great writer. He has proven that with his scripts for Aliens, Terminator, T2, The Abyss, & Strange Days (which is one of the most intelligent sci-fi scripts to come out of Hollywood). He is also one of the best directors in Hollywood, and his mastery of storytelling is apparent in all of his movies.

Cameron is too talented to waste time on Avatar sequels. Cameron needs to return to what made him great. He needs to go back to the darker, adult oriented, films which he is so good at. If that means returning to his Terminator universe, then I'm all for it.
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3:31AM on 04/18/2012

leave Terminator alone

also no hurry up and make another one sequels? Well that wont be a problem since salvation came out in 2009 and it will be 2020 before another one can be "cranked out" thanks to hollywood moving at a snails pace...g'job hollywood!
also no hurry up and make another one sequels? Well that wont be a problem since salvation came out in 2009 and it will be 2020 before another one can be "cranked out" thanks to hollywood moving at a snails pace...g'job hollywood!
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2:50AM on 04/18/2012
Oh, about Arnold? So a really bad movie again? (With you know, the worst actor in history)
Oh, about Arnold? So a really bad movie again? (With you know, the worst actor in history)
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10:08PM on 04/17/2012

It's a good idea but...

How are you gonna do that? Obviously Arnold is not looking the same as he looked in the terminator days. Can we spect something similar to Tron Legacy?
How are you gonna do that? Obviously Arnold is not looking the same as he looked in the terminator days. Can we spect something similar to Tron Legacy?
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9:47PM on 04/17/2012

JC knows what he is talking about...

I've always thought there was so much they could explore with Arnold's character. Who was the guy that was designed after the T800, why was this specific model chosen among I'm sure a hundred different Terminators.
I've always thought there was so much they could explore with Arnold's character. Who was the guy that was designed after the T800, why was this specific model chosen among I'm sure a hundred different Terminators.
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9:35PM on 04/17/2012
For me, the reason why T3 didn't work was the fact that the T-800 character had become a parody of itself by that point, and I think if Arnold were to take it up again, the fifth would veer dangerously close to being an outright comedy (which the third became at certain points). I actually liked Salvation because of the fact that they at least tried to take it in the Future War direction instead of just retreading the first three. Keep it in that arena and give the franchise a definitive end,
For me, the reason why T3 didn't work was the fact that the T-800 character had become a parody of itself by that point, and I think if Arnold were to take it up again, the fifth would veer dangerously close to being an outright comedy (which the third became at certain points). I actually liked Salvation because of the fact that they at least tried to take it in the Future War direction instead of just retreading the first three. Keep it in that arena and give the franchise a definitive end, and I might be interested. Hell, I'd rather see Robert Patrick show up again and play a hardcore soldier that the T-1000 was based on, rather than watch Schwarzenegger try to convince everyone that his catchprases are still as fresh as they were in 1984.

As for a director, Duncan Jones sounds promising. Maybe Joe Cornish? He seems to have a good eye for how to shoot action.
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8:08PM on 04/17/2012
I actually like the idea of T800s aging. I mean, why not, it is "living tissue." Perhaps slower, but still aging. And we know from T2 that they CAN learn, so 50 years into the war, maybe longer, do they still feel the same way about humans? About Skynet? Do they learn on the battlefield? They are the most human of the Skynet robots, are they torn between their humanity and their roboticness? Do they join the humans and try to fit in?

Cameron is right, a lot can be done with the T800 as a
I actually like the idea of T800s aging. I mean, why not, it is "living tissue." Perhaps slower, but still aging. And we know from T2 that they CAN learn, so 50 years into the war, maybe longer, do they still feel the same way about humans? About Skynet? Do they learn on the battlefield? They are the most human of the Skynet robots, are they torn between their humanity and their roboticness? Do they join the humans and try to fit in?

Cameron is right, a lot can be done with the T800 as a CHARACTER.
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7:46PM on 04/17/2012
I like the idea of Arnold as a human, but not a scientist, c'mon. It should follow the arch of the second film. The human Arnold was kicking ass and wiping the floor of with them, so the machines build the T-800 to fool the resistance and get inside. A complete arch of the 2nd film, where Linda Hamilton was scared to death of him, but instead their faith is betrayed by the mechanical Arnold.
I like the idea of Arnold as a human, but not a scientist, c'mon. It should follow the arch of the second film. The human Arnold was kicking ass and wiping the floor of with them, so the machines build the T-800 to fool the resistance and get inside. A complete arch of the 2nd film, where Linda Hamilton was scared to death of him, but instead their faith is betrayed by the mechanical Arnold.
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7:20PM on 04/17/2012
I'd be ok with Arnold being a scientist, but there's no reason for the T-800's to look like Arnold in the future since the machines have taken over, so forget that idea. I think it would be cool to focus on developing time travel. But the heart of the story has to be Conner & Reese. Does Conner want to get close to Reese to understand the man he never knew, even though it will be harder to send him back through time knowing what will happen to him.
I'd be ok with Arnold being a scientist, but there's no reason for the T-800's to look like Arnold in the future since the machines have taken over, so forget that idea. I think it would be cool to focus on developing time travel. But the heart of the story has to be Conner & Reese. Does Conner want to get close to Reese to understand the man he never knew, even though it will be harder to send him back through time knowing what will happen to him.
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6:55PM on 04/17/2012

Why not...

This franchise is so all over the place these days, I was just watching T2 the other day and thinking how infinitely better it was than any Terminator film after it.

I agree with everything in there except your desire for Duncan Jones. I thought Source Code was pretty terrible.
This franchise is so all over the place these days, I was just watching T2 the other day and thinking how infinitely better it was than any Terminator film after it.

I agree with everything in there except your desire for Duncan Jones. I thought Source Code was pretty terrible.
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6:51PM on 04/17/2012
Yeah, this is just a bad idea. Arnold is way too old to pull this off convincingly.

I have to agree that the franchise is broke beyond repair. The last two films were forgettable, and frankly T2 wasn't all that great either.

No one wants to see another "here comes the robot from the future - run!" movie.

Folks want to see the future war as it was depicted in the first and second films.

Anything else will be a waste of time.
Yeah, this is just a bad idea. Arnold is way too old to pull this off convincingly.

I have to agree that the franchise is broke beyond repair. The last two films were forgettable, and frankly T2 wasn't all that great either.

No one wants to see another "here comes the robot from the future - run!" movie.

Folks want to see the future war as it was depicted in the first and second films.

Anything else will be a waste of time.
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6:39PM on 04/17/2012
I'm sorry but I think this franchise is broken beyond repair. They had a chance to make a good movie about the war in the future and fucked it up. End of story.
I'm sorry but I think this franchise is broken beyond repair. They had a chance to make a good movie about the war in the future and fucked it up. End of story.
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6:37PM on 04/17/2012

hell no!

as much as I love Arnie and him as the Terminator, I do NOT want to see the next movie focus on him. I want the second and final chapters of the new trilogy (started by Salvation).

If I could have my way I would like to see the next movie be a prequel, showing how we got from T3, to Salvation -- showing the rise of John Connor as a leader and soldier. And then the final chapter of the trilogy would take place after Salvation and show the final war between man and machine, decalring a victor
as much as I love Arnie and him as the Terminator, I do NOT want to see the next movie focus on him. I want the second and final chapters of the new trilogy (started by Salvation).

If I could have my way I would like to see the next movie be a prequel, showing how we got from T3, to Salvation -- showing the rise of John Connor as a leader and soldier. And then the final chapter of the trilogy would take place after Salvation and show the final war between man and machine, decalring a victor once and for all (along with some cool throwbacks like sending Kyle Reese back)
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6:22PM on 04/17/2012
This would be cool to see! I always thought the biggest thing missing from Terminator Salvation was Arnold. It just didn't feel like a Terminator film without him! I think it would be cool to show him as a scientist for a few scenes of the film, and then the rest could be him as the T-800. Arnold as a human scientist is cool, but I prefer him as the BA T-800.
This would be cool to see! I always thought the biggest thing missing from Terminator Salvation was Arnold. It just didn't feel like a Terminator film without him! I think it would be cool to show him as a scientist for a few scenes of the film, and then the rest could be him as the T-800. Arnold as a human scientist is cool, but I prefer him as the BA T-800.
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5:20PM on 04/17/2012
Maybe a James Cameron terminator returns from the future and kills Edward Furlong just prior to filming T2, thereby forcing the present Cameron to recast the role. Then, he takes the legal paperwork that allows other filmmakers to pick up the franchise after T2 wraps, and lowers himself and said paperwork into molten metal at the end. Then, the epilogue on screen simply says.... "If Only...."
Maybe a James Cameron terminator returns from the future and kills Edward Furlong just prior to filming T2, thereby forcing the present Cameron to recast the role. Then, he takes the legal paperwork that allows other filmmakers to pick up the franchise after T2 wraps, and lowers himself and said paperwork into molten metal at the end. Then, the epilogue on screen simply says.... "If Only...."
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5:37PM on 04/17/2012
I laughed. Out loud. :P
I laughed. Out loud. :P
4:57PM on 04/17/2012
This should NOT be about another T-800 character of Arnold, but should be about Arnold the HUMAN as a scientist who made the first generation T-800. Maybe he was with Skynet at first, but then he join forces with John Connor, and using his expertise and knowledge about Skynet, FINALLY win the war against machines. That way they would've no problem with his advanced age, he's a scientist working with Skynet for a loong time afterall. He can be the main focus of the story, with Connor more of a
This should NOT be about another T-800 character of Arnold, but should be about Arnold the HUMAN as a scientist who made the first generation T-800. Maybe he was with Skynet at first, but then he join forces with John Connor, and using his expertise and knowledge about Skynet, FINALLY win the war against machines. That way they would've no problem with his advanced age, he's a scientist working with Skynet for a loong time afterall. He can be the main focus of the story, with Connor more of a side character.

As director, Cameron is and always will be the BEST choice. Other than him, why not give it to Brad Bird? He gave new life force to M:I series, maybe he can do that to Terminator too.
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4:24PM on 04/17/2012

just finish it

OK first off we have to forget all of these ideas of rebooting or telling a different story. You cant have it be the "wrong john conner" that would mean all of the caring we have done for the characters, all the worry when they are in trouble would be for not, we wasted our time then bc their deaths/lives meant nothing. The story needs an end. Am I the only person who wonders how you explain to your younger father that he has to go back in time and frak your mom so you can exist to defeat the
OK first off we have to forget all of these ideas of rebooting or telling a different story. You cant have it be the "wrong john conner" that would mean all of the caring we have done for the characters, all the worry when they are in trouble would be for not, we wasted our time then bc their deaths/lives meant nothing. The story needs an end. Am I the only person who wonders how you explain to your younger father that he has to go back in time and frak your mom so you can exist to defeat the machines? I mean how does that happen, how do you film it? Also the war is alluded to through all the films and even glanced at once in a while, I want to see that war and its resolution, how we overcame such odds. I think that if you just make another movie about arnold chasing or running for no other reason than to protect someone were all gonna be fed up. Cameron drew up this history and the reason he doenst even want to go there is bc the question I asked. He has no idea how to answer them, he just invented them to tell the story never thinking he would have to fully explain it. Actual deep storytelling and its consequences is not his strong suit, he is a technical wizard for sure but he is not JRR Tolkein. Give it a proper ending, keep Bale and make it epic.
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4:19PM on 04/17/2012
Tomas Alfredson, Tom Tykwer, Brad Bird, Nicolas Winding Refn.
Tomas Alfredson, Tom Tykwer, Brad Bird, Nicolas Winding Refn.
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4:08PM on 04/17/2012

As HoyleHaw Pointed out...

You could do a cool spin on Frankenstein, the T800 and his inventor, that might work, though I feel they're just beatin' a dead horse. On a side note, James Cameron said Avatar 2 will be all about himself....
You could do a cool spin on Frankenstein, the T800 and his inventor, that might work, though I feel they're just beatin' a dead horse. On a side note, James Cameron said Avatar 2 will be all about himself....
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4:06PM on 04/17/2012
Can't really get behind that idea. The most fascinating aspect of this series has been the war in the future that we haven't seen much of. We've seen plenty of time travel stories, and I like to think McG's film doesn't really count. What we need is a movie that is full on about the war in the future, and a good one. The series is ripe for a post-apocalyptic film, and it really should focus on that aspect. Show us more about this world after the machines take over. I agree, we've seen enough of
Can't really get behind that idea. The most fascinating aspect of this series has been the war in the future that we haven't seen much of. We've seen plenty of time travel stories, and I like to think McG's film doesn't really count. What we need is a movie that is full on about the war in the future, and a good one. The series is ripe for a post-apocalyptic film, and it really should focus on that aspect. Show us more about this world after the machines take over. I agree, we've seen enough of John Connor, so give us life in the post-apocalypse. Give us other people who fight to survive. I'd be down for some more T-800, but not as a main focus like the earlier films. I'd rather see the focus be on the people living in the future with support from some converted machines.
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3:58PM on 04/17/2012
So, Cameron wants to do an idea that's been done over and over and over again?

Can't say I'm surprised.
So, Cameron wants to do an idea that's been done over and over and over again?

Can't say I'm surprised.
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3:28PM on 04/17/2012

Reboot

What i'd like to see is an in cannon reboot. The next film should open with John Conner coming to the realization that he is the wrong John Conner and so he sends Kyle Reese back in time to intentionally save a different Sarah Conner. Thus creating an alternate reality that would tie up all the loose ends in the franchise. It would account for why different actors have played the role, and it would allow the Sarah Conner Chronicles to exist.

After all, there were other Sarah Conner's in the
What i'd like to see is an in cannon reboot. The next film should open with John Conner coming to the realization that he is the wrong John Conner and so he sends Kyle Reese back in time to intentionally save a different Sarah Conner. Thus creating an alternate reality that would tie up all the loose ends in the franchise. It would account for why different actors have played the role, and it would allow the Sarah Conner Chronicles to exist.

After all, there were other Sarah Conner's in the phone book that we never saw in the original film.

Whats also great about this, is that it would put the film back in the 80's, but the story itself could be very different. Like, perhaps Reese lives this time around. Or maybe the Sarah Conner that is saved is African American. Hell, what if this time its a T-1000 that is sent back in the form of the T-800. I'm full of ideas.
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4:23PM on 04/17/2012
No thanks.
No thanks.
3:17PM on 04/17/2012
Salvation was so laughably bad that I don't see how anyone can salvage this franchise.

That is unless Cameron comes back and writes & directs the next one, and show us what he means by focusing on The Terminator character. I give this a green because the idea of Cameron coming back would be a dream come true. Come on Cameron, make another Terminator film, save us fans from these god awful sequels.
Salvation was so laughably bad that I don't see how anyone can salvage this franchise.

That is unless Cameron comes back and writes & directs the next one, and show us what he means by focusing on The Terminator character. I give this a green because the idea of Cameron coming back would be a dream come true. Come on Cameron, make another Terminator film, save us fans from these god awful sequels.
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4:26PM on 04/17/2012
I'm sorry Salvation was way better than number 3. Someone needs to send a Terminator back in time to stop them from making the joke that is T3.
I'm sorry Salvation was way better than number 3. Someone needs to send a Terminator back in time to stop them from making the joke that is T3.
10:11PM on 04/17/2012
I hate to defend part 3, but at least the film made sense. The characters had motivations for their actions. Salvation felt like a bad student film with a mega-hollywood budget. The characters were stupid, and they just randomly did things. The story was a mess. They only thing Salvation had was solid effects and action.
I hate to defend part 3, but at least the film made sense. The characters had motivations for their actions. Salvation felt like a bad student film with a mega-hollywood budget. The characters were stupid, and they just randomly did things. The story was a mess. They only thing Salvation had was solid effects and action.
3:12PM on 04/17/2012

Great choice with Duncan Jones!

I think Duncan Jones was a great choice, they way he shot the Moon landscape for the film MOON was breathtaking, and such an eye for landscape is needed when trying to present the awesome post apocalyptic vision James Cameron presented in the first two films, a vision we have not seen replicated since. I think the terminator movies just aren't the same without Arnold, unless you can find someone who has the same awe inspiring presence that Arnold had back in 1984, some one who is almost
I think Duncan Jones was a great choice, they way he shot the Moon landscape for the film MOON was breathtaking, and such an eye for landscape is needed when trying to present the awesome post apocalyptic vision James Cameron presented in the first two films, a vision we have not seen replicated since. I think the terminator movies just aren't the same without Arnold, unless you can find someone who has the same awe inspiring presence that Arnold had back in 1984, some one who is almost inhumanly perfect, godlike, cause lets be honest, Arnold is like the perfect human specimen, hence him being Mr. Universe.
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2:56PM on 04/17/2012
I'd like to see Neill Blomkamp.
I'd like to see Neill Blomkamp.
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2:49PM on 04/17/2012
I don't know about Arnold as a T-800, but since they cut that scene from T3, they could make it about the man who they based the T-800 on.

I have zero investment in another Terminator movie, but since I know better than to expect Hollywood to stop making them, it could make for an interesting angle on overworked material.

Or they could do the fashionable thing, and just reboot the damn franchise. At this point I really don't care.
I don't know about Arnold as a T-800, but since they cut that scene from T3, they could make it about the man who they based the T-800 on.

I have zero investment in another Terminator movie, but since I know better than to expect Hollywood to stop making them, it could make for an interesting angle on overworked material.

Or they could do the fashionable thing, and just reboot the damn franchise. At this point I really don't care.
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2:46PM on 04/17/2012
How does he think that's a good idea? The first Terminator film was tremendous, and the reason was because it had a compelling story about humans who were fighting for their lives against an evil, inhuman opponent. He's a robot, good or evil he doesn't have "character." Cameron has made some great films, but he sure says some stupid shit sometimes.
How does he think that's a good idea? The first Terminator film was tremendous, and the reason was because it had a compelling story about humans who were fighting for their lives against an evil, inhuman opponent. He's a robot, good or evil he doesn't have "character." Cameron has made some great films, but he sure says some stupid shit sometimes.
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3:26PM on 04/17/2012
Plenty of great stories have focused on robots. The T-800 in T2 was certainly a character, and it was an emotional punch to the gut to see him die in the end. Cameron did an amazing job making the audience care for a soulless robot.
Plenty of great stories have focused on robots. The T-800 in T2 was certainly a character, and it was an emotional punch to the gut to see him die in the end. Cameron did an amazing job making the audience care for a soulless robot.
4:15PM on 04/17/2012
I disagree on a certain counts. When robots work as characters, in the traditional sense, it almost always because they're part human or becoming human or grappling with humanity (I,Robot, A.I., etc.) In this case, he's none of those things. He's a killing machine who's either evil or who's been reprogrammed to be good. There is no development on his end, no change, no arc. The human characters can change in reaction to him, but he, at least as he was portrayed in the first three films, cannot
I disagree on a certain counts. When robots work as characters, in the traditional sense, it almost always because they're part human or becoming human or grappling with humanity (I,Robot, A.I., etc.) In this case, he's none of those things. He's a killing machine who's either evil or who's been reprogrammed to be good. There is no development on his end, no change, no arc. The human characters can change in reaction to him, but he, at least as he was portrayed in the first three films, cannot be the heart of the story. They did, however, try something different in 'Salvation.' They had a robot struggling with humanity, and it worked fairly well. I just think Cameron is way off base here. Also, and I know I'm in the minority, but T2 is my least favorite of the series.
4:20PM on 04/17/2012
"T2 is my least favorite of the series. "

Your point just became invalid. :P
"T2 is my least favorite of the series. "

Your point just became invalid. :P
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2:45PM on 04/17/2012
I'm gonna have to disagree. With both of you. Arnold is the star of the franchise, that's for sure, and if their objective is only to make money (which I believe Cameron is relying too much on nowadays) than yeah, that's what they should do. But if you want to make a good movie you have to understand that Arnold's character is not the cornerstone of the storyline. It's John Connor, always has been. And by saying that he had his time I don't really understand. Even in a movie about him,
I'm gonna have to disagree. With both of you. Arnold is the star of the franchise, that's for sure, and if their objective is only to make money (which I believe Cameron is relying too much on nowadays) than yeah, that's what they should do. But if you want to make a good movie you have to understand that Arnold's character is not the cornerstone of the storyline. It's John Connor, always has been. And by saying that he had his time I don't really understand. Even in a movie about him, Salvation, he wasn't given enough time. Instead of a completely unnecessary Marcus they should have just make it all about the war and Connor. That's what I want from a sequel - the proper war, 2029!
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2:44PM on 04/17/2012

Which character?

He was four different T-800's over the course of the franchise and they all died. He'd have to play another one, unless he played one before it was sent back, but his age would be a problem so they'd probably have to CG him like they did in the last movie anyway so whats the point? There's only one story left to be told with this series and it's how John finally defeats Skynet.
He was four different T-800's over the course of the franchise and they all died. He'd have to play another one, unless he played one before it was sent back, but his age would be a problem so they'd probably have to CG him like they did in the last movie anyway so whats the point? There's only one story left to be told with this series and it's how John finally defeats Skynet.
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2:43PM on 04/17/2012
James Cameron doing a Ridley Scott perhaps ?

Going back to the franchise.
James Cameron doing a Ridley Scott perhaps ?

Going back to the franchise.
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2:41PM on 04/17/2012
Duncan Jones does original, thought-provoking sci-fi. He's well above handling someone else's tired sloppy seconds.
Duncan Jones does original, thought-provoking sci-fi. He's well above handling someone else's tired sloppy seconds.
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2:45PM on 04/17/2012
"Duncan Jones does original, thought-provoking sci-fi." Which is EXACTLY why he'd be so good for this franchise. I'm glad James Cameron didn't take that approach towards the ALIEN franchise.
"Duncan Jones does original, thought-provoking sci-fi." Which is EXACTLY why he'd be so good for this franchise. I'm glad James Cameron didn't take that approach towards the ALIEN franchise.
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2:40PM on 04/17/2012
I can get down with Paul's idea of an aged T800 to explain Arnold's older appearance. I can't see the Governator pulling it off if any other way at this point. As for director, I LOVE Duncan Jones and I hope he stays in the sci-fi genre. If not Jones...an obvious choice for me would be J.J. Abrams. I would also like to see Brad Bird take the helm since he handled the transition to live action so excellently with the latest Mission Impossible installment.
I can get down with Paul's idea of an aged T800 to explain Arnold's older appearance. I can't see the Governator pulling it off if any other way at this point. As for director, I LOVE Duncan Jones and I hope he stays in the sci-fi genre. If not Jones...an obvious choice for me would be J.J. Abrams. I would also like to see Brad Bird take the helm since he handled the transition to live action so excellently with the latest Mission Impossible installment.
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2:35PM on 04/17/2012

MEH

Look the t-800 has had his day in the sun. Come on man. We need a wrap up to this thing. its so drawn out now and repetitive already. Come on. How's it end
Look the t-800 has had his day in the sun. Come on man. We need a wrap up to this thing. its so drawn out now and repetitive already. Come on. How's it end
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2:27PM on 04/17/2012
I love the Terminator universe are people so non-creative that they cant do another Terminator movie without Arnold? I was a huge fan of Salvation and would'nt mind seeing more of the story from that perspective.
I love the Terminator universe are people so non-creative that they cant do another Terminator movie without Arnold? I was a huge fan of Salvation and would'nt mind seeing more of the story from that perspective.
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2:23PM on 04/17/2012

Meh

They'll never top T2, so what's the point?
They'll never top T2, so what's the point?
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2:23PM on 04/17/2012
I'd rather them continue with what they did on Salvation. I am tired of Cameron thinking he is a genius. I really don't buy him or his ideas anymore. The man has such an ego and he earned withhis blockbuster movies I guess, but there is a reason I'm not keen on seeing anything he does anymore. Arnold is really too old for me to buy as a terminator at this point too
I'd rather them continue with what they did on Salvation. I am tired of Cameron thinking he is a genius. I really don't buy him or his ideas anymore. The man has such an ego and he earned withhis blockbuster movies I guess, but there is a reason I'm not keen on seeing anything he does anymore. Arnold is really too old for me to buy as a terminator at this point too
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