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Johnny Depp is in talks to return for the Alice in Wonderland sequel

Jul. 12, 2013by:

Johnny Depp must not have gotten the memo that his last two films bombed at the box office. Both DARK SHADOWS and THE LONE RANGER were creatively lacking and critically panned and yet Depp continues to pretend that he is infallible. In fact, while he continues to pile on the crap-wagon with the upcoming fifth PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN movie, Depp has apparently also entered negotiations to return for Disney's Tim Burton-less sequel to ALICE IN WONDERLAND.

Deadline reports that Depp's multi-year first look deal with Disney that he signed back in March has him in talks to appear in the sequel being directed by James Bobin (THE MUPPETS). The first ALICE IN WONDERLAND grossed a billion dollars worldwide when it hit theaters in 2010, mainly due to being the first major 3D release after James Cameron's AVATAR.

Johnny Depp was beginning to look like he was giving the character shtick a rest with the first images from TRANSCENDENCE earlier today, but apparently he doesn't know when to say enough. I like Depp as an actor and a personality, but this is getting to Adam Sandler levels of ridiculousness. Does Depp truly not care about his "art" anymore?

Tim Burton was the lone element of appeal for me in seeing ALICE IN WONDERLAND. Having Depp back may be Disney's way of trying to ensure a positive box office return for the sequel, but after THE LONE RANGER, I am not so sure that is a lock anymore.

Source: Deadline

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1:20AM on 07/14/2013

Don't hate...

Listen to you all, doesn't respect his craft, sellout. etcetera. Get over yourselves!!! Like anyone here would turn down the millions upon millions down out of respect for your craft, what a joke! The mans job is to make movies, I'd make the movie that paid the most and so would you. Stop being hypocrites, you're completely transparent lol!
Listen to you all, doesn't respect his craft, sellout. etcetera. Get over yourselves!!! Like anyone here would turn down the millions upon millions down out of respect for your craft, what a joke! The mans job is to make movies, I'd make the movie that paid the most and so would you. Stop being hypocrites, you're completely transparent lol!
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10:42PM on 07/13/2013
I try to cut these big stars a break, because I know if I was been paid huge sums and having my butt kissed on a regular basis it would surely go to my head, but his schtick is getting a bit old. After Pirates II, I lost interest. His part in Alice was okay, but then I have seen him doing more traditional roles (i.e. Donny Brasco) and he can be very good.
I try to cut these big stars a break, because I know if I was been paid huge sums and having my butt kissed on a regular basis it would surely go to my head, but his schtick is getting a bit old. After Pirates II, I lost interest. His part in Alice was okay, but then I have seen him doing more traditional roles (i.e. Donny Brasco) and he can be very good.
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11:23AM on 07/13/2013
Dear Johnny,
Please don't make this movie. First was shite. Second will be shite. Tim Burton isn't Tim Burton anymore, we're sick of his wife and we don't want James Bobin getting ruined too. You owe us a lot of money already. Stick to odd bits of awesomeness like Fear & Loathing, 21 Jump Street and Rango. You're wearing out your welcome.
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Dear Johnny,
Please don't make this movie. First was shite. Second will be shite. Tim Burton isn't Tim Burton anymore, we're sick of his wife and we don't want James Bobin getting ruined too. You owe us a lot of money already. Stick to odd bits of awesomeness like Fear & Loathing, 21 Jump Street and Rango. You're wearing out your welcome.
Signed,
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4:47AM on 07/13/2013
No surprise, the man's a whore nowadays.
No surprise, the man's a whore nowadays.
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2:51AM on 07/13/2013
Glad I voted guilty this week.
Glad I voted guilty this week.
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2:19AM on 07/13/2013

This Is It

I think this is the kind of shit we are going to get from Johnny Depp from here on out. I think he has let his artistic side die for the almighty dollar. It is a shame but until a movie studio throws $30 million our way to sleep walk through some CGI filled piece of shit, we will never know how we would react in the same position. I'm sure most of us would like to believe we would turndown overblown, piece of shit, paycheck films for more artistic, challenging films but $20- $30 million is a
I think this is the kind of shit we are going to get from Johnny Depp from here on out. I think he has let his artistic side die for the almighty dollar. It is a shame but until a movie studio throws $30 million our way to sleep walk through some CGI filled piece of shit, we will never know how we would react in the same position. I'm sure most of us would like to believe we would turndown overblown, piece of shit, paycheck films for more artistic, challenging films but $20- $30 million is a lot of money to turndown when it is REALLY on the table in front of you!
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1:23AM on 07/13/2013

They had a whole article about Deep in EW

Saying that he needs to start doing normal characters and stop doing all these eccentric ones. I know he is going to be in Transendance next year. He was good in straight roles like Donnie Brasco, Finding Neverland, and Public Enemies. He has it in him.

As far as "Alice". I hated the first one. The second one will probably be piss poor like the original.
Saying that he needs to start doing normal characters and stop doing all these eccentric ones. I know he is going to be in Transendance next year. He was good in straight roles like Donnie Brasco, Finding Neverland, and Public Enemies. He has it in him.

As far as "Alice". I hated the first one. The second one will probably be piss poor like the original.
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12:06AM on 07/13/2013
"yet Depp continues to pretend that he is infallible"
um, Depp doing sequels to Pirates and Alice is the exact opposite. He's going for safe, guaranteed hits. Not saying I like it, because I don't; it's the easy and safe move, but it's also not exciting.
"yet Depp continues to pretend that he is infallible"
um, Depp doing sequels to Pirates and Alice is the exact opposite. He's going for safe, guaranteed hits. Not saying I like it, because I don't; it's the easy and safe move, but it's also not exciting.
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11:38PM on 07/12/2013

Obviously in the minority . . .

. . . but I enjoyed "Alice in Wonderland."

I feel like too many people were expecting something other than what it was intended to be . . . a movie geared towards children. And let's see . . . Mad Hatter? Yup, I'm pretty sure that character was supposed to be over-the-top.

I'm not saying it was a movie masterpiece, because it obviously wasn't . . . but based on the money it grossed, I'm willing to bet that it was viewed more than once by many a movie goer. There was obviously a
. . . but I enjoyed "Alice in Wonderland."

I feel like too many people were expecting something other than what it was intended to be . . . a movie geared towards children. And let's see . . . Mad Hatter? Yup, I'm pretty sure that character was supposed to be over-the-top.

I'm not saying it was a movie masterpiece, because it obviously wasn't . . . but based on the money it grossed, I'm willing to bet that it was viewed more than once by many a movie goer. There was obviously a demand, so it makes perfect sense to make another.

Lately, it seems like the new trend on this site is to trash actors and/or directors who "used to be cool," as if it's a way to show your own uniqueness, when in reality, most people are just jumping on the bandwagon to get thumbs up and/or avoid thumbs down (as if that shit really matters anyway).

Sorry for the rant . . . I don't post a lot on here, so I don't expect my opinion to hold any weight anyway.
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12:50AM on 07/13/2013
I agree. There is definitely a hipster vibe on this site.
I agree. There is definitely a hipster vibe on this site.
10:31PM on 07/12/2013
It is a little tiring seeing him in these types of roles but I don't think it's reaching Adam Sander levels of ridiculousness. That's going a bit far don't you think?
It is a little tiring seeing him in these types of roles but I don't think it's reaching Adam Sander levels of ridiculousness. That's going a bit far don't you think?
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10:31PM on 07/12/2013
It is a little tiring seeing him in these types of roles but I don't think it's reaching Adam Sander levels of ridiculousness. That's going a bit far don't you think?
It is a little tiring seeing him in these types of roles but I don't think it's reaching Adam Sander levels of ridiculousness. That's going a bit far don't you think?
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10:44PM on 07/12/2013
Its getting Sandler level. Recently, there's more concentration on 'We have Johnny Depp playing a whacky character' than there is on the plot or storyline - which is the same pitch for Sandler movies. As someone already said, he's essentially getting paid to be a clown as opposed to doing any actual acting with his last few movies.
Its getting Sandler level. Recently, there's more concentration on 'We have Johnny Depp playing a whacky character' than there is on the plot or storyline - which is the same pitch for Sandler movies. As someone already said, he's essentially getting paid to be a clown as opposed to doing any actual acting with his last few movies.
10:10PM on 07/12/2013
Just because something made money, doesn't mean that people want more.
Just because something made money, doesn't mean that people want more.
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9:48PM on 07/12/2013
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little
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8:47PM on 07/12/2013
pretty sure he did get the memo, seeing as how he's making sequels to movies that banked...
pretty sure he did get the memo, seeing as how he's making sequels to movies that banked...
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8:01PM on 07/12/2013

ugh

Disney is desperate for a new franchise. They've are trying to match the success of Pirates with other movies and it's not working. Sorcerer's Apprentice , Prince of Persia, John Carter, Lone Ranger. None of them seemed to have done the same impact as the Pirate movies. Alice In Wonderland at least made the studio major tickets sales. So they are going back to that.

Next year we have both "Maleficent" and "Tomorrowland" which could both start franchises (seems unlikely to me, but possible).
Disney is desperate for a new franchise. They've are trying to match the success of Pirates with other movies and it's not working. Sorcerer's Apprentice , Prince of Persia, John Carter, Lone Ranger. None of them seemed to have done the same impact as the Pirate movies. Alice In Wonderland at least made the studio major tickets sales. So they are going back to that.

Next year we have both "Maleficent" and "Tomorrowland" which could both start franchises (seems unlikely to me, but possible). I suggest they make another ride into an action movie. Swiss Family Robinson, Space Mountain, and Jungle Cruise could all work as movies. (Jungle Cruise is already partially based on "The African Queen")
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7:46PM on 07/12/2013

Movie Jail

If anyone voted 'not guilty' on his movie jail column, nows the time to go change your vote
If anyone voted 'not guilty' on his movie jail column, nows the time to go change your vote
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7:30PM on 07/12/2013

C'mon man...

Over the past few years from Depp I thoroughly enjoyed Rango and his portrayal of Dillinger. But I'm sick of him playing the same whacked-out Burton-esque characters. It just seems like he's playing the characters the way he thinks people expect, thereby not doing any of them justice. I miss him taking things at least a little seriously.
Over the past few years from Depp I thoroughly enjoyed Rango and his portrayal of Dillinger. But I'm sick of him playing the same whacked-out Burton-esque characters. It just seems like he's playing the characters the way he thinks people expect, thereby not doing any of them justice. I miss him taking things at least a little seriously.
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7:29PM on 07/12/2013

Done with Depp

In the past 10 years, he's given two truly good performances: Rango, which was in voice only and Sweeney Todd, which was a musical. The rest are so over the top cartoonish or occur in such mediocre films that I no longer look forward to a Johnny Depp film. I simply cringe at the thought he's being paid $50 million to play a clown...yet again.
In the past 10 years, he's given two truly good performances: Rango, which was in voice only and Sweeney Todd, which was a musical. The rest are so over the top cartoonish or occur in such mediocre films that I no longer look forward to a Johnny Depp film. I simply cringe at the thought he's being paid $50 million to play a clown...yet again.
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7:14PM on 07/12/2013

Johnny?

Come on Johnny....dont sign up for this...I really think he is losing his artistic edge...I remember not too long ago, he said he wanted to stay away from typical, commerical, run of the mill movies. and for a long time, Johnny did. Yet with the sucess of the Pirate movies, etc..he is going along a different path.
I think Johnny needs to break away from commerical movies and go back to the material that made him unique.
Come on Johnny....dont sign up for this...I really think he is losing his artistic edge...I remember not too long ago, he said he wanted to stay away from typical, commerical, run of the mill movies. and for a long time, Johnny did. Yet with the sucess of the Pirate movies, etc..he is going along a different path.
I think Johnny needs to break away from commerical movies and go back to the material that made him unique.
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6:12PM on 07/12/2013

Apparently...

... Johnny Depp equates success with how much money you make over the quality of work done. Seeing as the first film was a huge money maker, of course he's going to go back to the well for some more money. No lessons learned from Pirates 4, Alice in Wonderland, Dark Shadows or The Lone Ranger. But, to be fair, if I were making the same bucks as him, I'd be just as blah about the projects I select too. $20 million a pic can make your quality detector go on the fritz damn quick.
... Johnny Depp equates success with how much money you make over the quality of work done. Seeing as the first film was a huge money maker, of course he's going to go back to the well for some more money. No lessons learned from Pirates 4, Alice in Wonderland, Dark Shadows or The Lone Ranger. But, to be fair, if I were making the same bucks as him, I'd be just as blah about the projects I select too. $20 million a pic can make your quality detector go on the fritz damn quick.
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5:57PM on 07/12/2013
I doubt this will happen. I assume he only did the first b/c Burton directed it, and if he's not back for the sequel than I'm pretty sure Depp won't be. He saves most his stranger roles for Burton and Verbinski. He'd be better off without another Pirates movie as well.
I doubt this will happen. I assume he only did the first b/c Burton directed it, and if he's not back for the sequel than I'm pretty sure Depp won't be. He saves most his stranger roles for Burton and Verbinski. He'd be better off without another Pirates movie as well.
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5:36PM on 07/12/2013
Probably one of the worst movies I have ever seen. It was nauseating - the editing, acting, CGI... had to turn it off.
Probably one of the worst movies I have ever seen. It was nauseating - the editing, acting, CGI... had to turn it off.
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5:12PM on 07/12/2013
I know I saw Alice in Wonderland, and I know I found it boring because I cannot for the life of me remember anything that happened in it. Maybe this time they'll come up with something besides a green screen world to show off.
I know I saw Alice in Wonderland, and I know I found it boring because I cannot for the life of me remember anything that happened in it. Maybe this time they'll come up with something besides a green screen world to show off.
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5:10PM on 07/12/2013
How does Depp "continue to pretend that he is infallible?" I'm as tired of his schtick as anyone, but I dont know what this is referring to.
How does Depp "continue to pretend that he is infallible?" I'm as tired of his schtick as anyone, but I dont know what this is referring to.
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7:47PM on 07/12/2013
Is it just me or is Alex Maidy almost unreadable?
Is it just me or is Alex Maidy almost unreadable?
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