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Joss Whedon is having an issue with The Avengers sequel

May. 16, 2012by: Niki Stephens

It seems that THE AVENGERS is doing well at the box office. That's mildly putting it. Passing $1 billion worldwide is kind of a big deal. So when you know you'll be called upon to direct the sequel-- do you do it?

What say you Joss Whedon? This is what he told Hero Complex, You know, Im very torn.Its an enormous amount of work telling what is ultimately somebody elses story, even though I feel like I did get to put myself into it. But at the same time, I have a bunch of ideas, and they all seem really cool.

How can you pass this up? I am really hoping he decides to take it when it's offered.

I hate to even ask this, but if he doesn't decide to helm the second installment, who would you get to direct the sequel?

Source: Hero Complex
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11:33PM on 05/21/2012

Ultron

I want to see Ultron in Avengers 2.

I would also like to see a SHIELD movie set in the 1960s a la First Class. Samuel Jackson would appear in a cameo and digital technology would be used to make him look younger, setting things up for sequels set in the 1980s and 2000s.
I want to see Ultron in Avengers 2.

I would also like to see a SHIELD movie set in the 1960s a la First Class. Samuel Jackson would appear in a cameo and digital technology would be used to make him look younger, setting things up for sequels set in the 1980s and 2000s.
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8:24AM on 05/22/2012
On second thought, Ultron would be lame on the big screen. Is there a way to do Thanos without making it a retread of the original movie though?

I would like to recast the role of Tony Stark's father. I'd like to see Timothy Dalton take onthe role of the elder Stark in the 60s. I think the idea of Timothy Dalton being an agent of SHIELD would be a good in joke. (Technically, he wouldn't be an agent of SHIELD but the founder -as alluded to in Iron Man 2 - but it still would be pretty
On second thought, Ultron would be lame on the big screen. Is there a way to do Thanos without making it a retread of the original movie though?

I would like to recast the role of Tony Stark's father. I'd like to see Timothy Dalton take onthe role of the elder Stark in the 60s. I think the idea of Timothy Dalton being an agent of SHIELD would be a good in joke. (Technically, he wouldn't be an agent of SHIELD but the founder -as alluded to in Iron Man 2 - but it still would be pretty funny.)
9:44PM on 05/18/2012
I have to agree with some of the comments below. Just look at the Nolan/WB relationship. If Disney/BV gives Whedon room to make his Inception, then in return he'll keep Avengers the money making machine that everyone loves.

Filmmakers like Nolan & Whedon are a rare resource in Hollywood. Don't squander them.
I have to agree with some of the comments below. Just look at the Nolan/WB relationship. If Disney/BV gives Whedon room to make his Inception, then in return he'll keep Avengers the money making machine that everyone loves.

Filmmakers like Nolan & Whedon are a rare resource in Hollywood. Don't squander them.
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4:03PM on 05/17/2012
everybody is going to watch the sequel no matter who is working on it. would any of you seriously boycott it if Whedon got dumped? Didn't think so. we all enjoyed what he did with the first but if he doesnt want to come back that's his choice. the show will go on
everybody is going to watch the sequel no matter who is working on it. would any of you seriously boycott it if Whedon got dumped? Didn't think so. we all enjoyed what he did with the first but if he doesnt want to come back that's his choice. the show will go on
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5:42AM on 05/18/2012
Of course, everyone is going to watch it. They question is how many are going to enjoy it?
Of course, everyone is going to watch it. They question is how many are going to enjoy it?
11:57AM on 05/17/2012
Why would you want to work on your own projects when everybody in the world wants to suck your dick for making a movie about guys hanging out on a flying aircraft carrier for 45 minutes?
Why would you want to work on your own projects when everybody in the world wants to suck your dick for making a movie about guys hanging out on a flying aircraft carrier for 45 minutes?
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2:58PM on 05/17/2012
Awwww, looks like someone didn't like The Avengers. Does it make you mad seeing all the attention the movie is getting?
Awwww, looks like someone didn't like The Avengers. Does it make you mad seeing all the attention the movie is getting?
3:54PM on 05/17/2012
i kinda agree with this guy. It was so-so. The Dark Knight Rises is going to kick way more ass than the Avengers. Sorry polarboy.
i kinda agree with this guy. It was so-so. The Dark Knight Rises is going to kick way more ass than the Avengers. Sorry polarboy.
11:24AM on 05/18/2012
ye but the 'guys' were the hulk, thor, iron man, captain america, hawk eye and samuel mother fucking jackson! i swear people 'hate' the avengers just to be different
ye but the 'guys' were the hulk, thor, iron man, captain america, hawk eye and samuel mother fucking jackson! i swear people 'hate' the avengers just to be different
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8:52AM on 05/17/2012
One idea from Joss Whedon is better than any from the shit writer's populating Hollywood now.
One idea from Joss Whedon is better than any from the shit writer's populating Hollywood now.
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7:21AM on 05/17/2012

Whedon's comments

shouldn't be taken at face value.
shouldn't be taken at face value.
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6:44AM on 05/17/2012
This is just part of some negotiations.

Tidbit; as long as Whedon is writing it, it could be someone else instead... like one of his former directing partners; Steven S. de Knight, Tim Minear, David Greenwalt or Drew Goddard. The man has a very special team around him.
This is just part of some negotiations.

Tidbit; as long as Whedon is writing it, it could be someone else instead... like one of his former directing partners; Steven S. de Knight, Tim Minear, David Greenwalt or Drew Goddard. The man has a very special team around him.
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6:45AM on 05/17/2012
red is a mistake, sorry!
red is a mistake, sorry!
5:30AM on 05/17/2012
Come on, why WOULDN'T he do it? He obviously loves these characters and comic books. Just give the man space to breathe, think and come up with his own ideas. NO CORPORATE MEDDLING!
Come on, why WOULDN'T he do it? He obviously loves these characters and comic books. Just give the man space to breathe, think and come up with his own ideas. NO CORPORATE MEDDLING!
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4:32AM on 05/17/2012
Well no offense to Whedon but he would be an idiot not to wanna do the sequel.
Well no offense to Whedon but he would be an idiot not to wanna do the sequel.
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3:42AM on 05/17/2012
If people like Nolan have taught us anything, and they have, it's that if you pull the right strings and say the right things, you'll have the studio in the palm of your hand. Well played, Mr.Whedon. Now, give the man everything he wants, every actor he wants, for every project he wants, and in return he'll make you squirm with joy at the money Avengers 2 makes when it's out.
If people like Nolan have taught us anything, and they have, it's that if you pull the right strings and say the right things, you'll have the studio in the palm of your hand. Well played, Mr.Whedon. Now, give the man everything he wants, every actor he wants, for every project he wants, and in return he'll make you squirm with joy at the money Avengers 2 makes when it's out.
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3:57PM on 05/17/2012
Let's be serious. People are going to flock to avengers 2 no matter who is doing it.
Let's be serious. People are going to flock to avengers 2 no matter who is doing it.
6:21PM on 05/17/2012
Your Iron Man face is melting!
Your Iron Man face is melting!
5:02AM on 05/18/2012
Yeah, people would still see it, but if it turns out bad the franchise's stock will drop, and then Avengers 3 will have its own set of problems. If you want the franchise to thrive, keep Whedon in it. Keep the quality intact, and you'll never have to worry about getting people to see it.
Yeah, people would still see it, but if it turns out bad the franchise's stock will drop, and then Avengers 3 will have its own set of problems. If you want the franchise to thrive, keep Whedon in it. Keep the quality intact, and you'll never have to worry about getting people to see it.
1:47AM on 05/17/2012
He's gonna do it fellas. He's just leveraging the HISTORIC success of this movie so that Paramount will give him the freedom to make a movie of his own between Assemblages. Think Nolan making 'Inception' or Abrams making 'Super 8' between their franchise projects. Cut the dude some slack, prior to this flick he saw his project Cabin in the Woods literally sit in a can on a shelf for three years. That HAD to hurt, think if JAWs didn't come out until 1978. He knows he's finally got the clout
He's gonna do it fellas. He's just leveraging the HISTORIC success of this movie so that Paramount will give him the freedom to make a movie of his own between Assemblages. Think Nolan making 'Inception' or Abrams making 'Super 8' between their franchise projects. Cut the dude some slack, prior to this flick he saw his project Cabin in the Woods literally sit in a can on a shelf for three years. That HAD to hurt, think if JAWs didn't come out until 1978. He knows he's finally got the clout to make EVERYBODY happy including himself and he's gonna swing it.
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1:34AM on 05/17/2012
As great as it would be to have Whedon direct Avengers 2, it's not a deal-breaker for me. Not because I don't want Avengers 2 to be directed by him, but rather I'm more interested in seeing projects from Joss that he wants to do. He is one of the most original voices in pop culture, I'm more interested in passion projects he has up his sleeve than seeing him try to one-up himself on Avengers 2
As great as it would be to have Whedon direct Avengers 2, it's not a deal-breaker for me. Not because I don't want Avengers 2 to be directed by him, but rather I'm more interested in seeing projects from Joss that he wants to do. He is one of the most original voices in pop culture, I'm more interested in passion projects he has up his sleeve than seeing him try to one-up himself on Avengers 2
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12:59AM on 05/17/2012
I will boycott the movie if Joss doesn't do A2. That is a legitimate threat.
I will boycott the movie if Joss doesn't do A2. That is a legitimate threat.
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12:24AM on 05/17/2012
The thing is, Marvel signed him for TWO movies. This may be his way of saying he needs "incentive" to get his heart in to it. I hope Marvel ups his contract regardless of what they already have him signed for. A happy Joss is good for everyone and GREAT for the bottom line. To quote Rounders in my best Russian accent... "Pay him...Pay dat man his money."
The thing is, Marvel signed him for TWO movies. This may be his way of saying he needs "incentive" to get his heart in to it. I hope Marvel ups his contract regardless of what they already have him signed for. A happy Joss is good for everyone and GREAT for the bottom line. To quote Rounders in my best Russian accent... "Pay him...Pay dat man his money."
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11:08PM on 05/16/2012

About your last sentence: NO. ONE. ELSE.

I'm as serious as cancer here, Whedon or NOBODY!
I'm as serious as cancer here, Whedon or NOBODY!
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10:22PM on 05/16/2012
"Hi, I am Joss Whedon, sure, i'll direct your Avengers sequel. As long as you give me $50m to finance my Serenity sequel."

Let's face it, that's what is really important :)
"Hi, I am Joss Whedon, sure, i'll direct your Avengers sequel. As long as you give me $50m to finance my Serenity sequel."

Let's face it, that's what is really important :)
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10:09PM on 05/16/2012
More like "Joss Whedon is having difficulty deciding whether the interior of his trailer on the set of AVENGERS 2 will be made of pure gold or platinum."
More like "Joss Whedon is having difficulty deciding whether the interior of his trailer on the set of AVENGERS 2 will be made of pure gold or platinum."
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9:32PM on 05/16/2012

Give the man the world.

The Avengers is Joss Whedon through and through. Marvel needs to give him whatever the fuck he wants to keep him happy. He wants 50 mil, done. He wants to release it in 2015, done, and probably for the best, when has rushing a movie EVER worked out? X-Men First Class is the only example that comes to mind.
I am sure he's going to come back, after all Marvel has an option on him, not the other way around PLUS he's already briefly talked about how he would like the sequel to be smaller in scale
The Avengers is Joss Whedon through and through. Marvel needs to give him whatever the fuck he wants to keep him happy. He wants 50 mil, done. He wants to release it in 2015, done, and probably for the best, when has rushing a movie EVER worked out? X-Men First Class is the only example that comes to mind.
I am sure he's going to come back, after all Marvel has an option on him, not the other way around PLUS he's already briefly talked about how he would like the sequel to be smaller in scale and more personal. You don't say stuff like that if you don't plan on making the movie. Marvel just needs to make sure they keep him happy, they need him a helluva lot more than he needs them right now. He can do whatever the fuck kind of movie he wants, let's just hope Marvel makes sure that he wants to do Avengers 2.
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9:19PM on 05/16/2012
Seems like Marvel has trouble retaining their talents, what with the musical chairs game with the Thor 2 directors, and Norton and Howard getting the boot, to name a few. That kinda speaks for itself. If worst comes to worst, I'd pick Brad Bird. He made "The Incredibles" which I count as one of the best superhero movies ever, and he's certainly proven his worth with live-action. This would be a relatively smooth transition.
Seems like Marvel has trouble retaining their talents, what with the musical chairs game with the Thor 2 directors, and Norton and Howard getting the boot, to name a few. That kinda speaks for itself. If worst comes to worst, I'd pick Brad Bird. He made "The Incredibles" which I count as one of the best superhero movies ever, and he's certainly proven his worth with live-action. This would be a relatively smooth transition.
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9:32PM on 05/16/2012
Brad Bird would be a great choice. But I honestly don't even want to think of a world where Joss Whedon doesn't make the sequel.
Brad Bird would be a great choice. But I honestly don't even want to think of a world where Joss Whedon doesn't make the sequel.
9:55PM on 05/16/2012
True very true. Why ruin what is obviously working?
True very true. Why ruin what is obviously working?
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9:11PM on 05/16/2012

Whedon!!!!

Uwe Boll
Uwe Boll
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8:45PM on 05/16/2012

of course

he will be back...this is just him starting the negotiation process
he will be back...this is just him starting the negotiation process
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8:24PM on 05/16/2012
For fuck's sake you let this man do WHATEVER HE WANTS to bring him back for a sequel. Remember how Warner Brothers handled Nolan? They let him make his own passion projects in between the Batman movies. If we need to do the same thing here than so be it, there's enough sequels for the core players that it can hold over fans for another 2-3 years.

Whedon must return.. period.
For fuck's sake you let this man do WHATEVER HE WANTS to bring him back for a sequel. Remember how Warner Brothers handled Nolan? They let him make his own passion projects in between the Batman movies. If we need to do the same thing here than so be it, there's enough sequels for the core players that it can hold over fans for another 2-3 years.

Whedon must return.. period.
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8:29PM on 05/16/2012
I haven't seen it yet but I agree with you. Execs need to learn when to give creative freedom in terms of the direction to the DIRECTOR. They did it with Nolan and Batman and it worked, same thing with Bryan Singer and X-Men.

so what has the past shown in terms of what happens when the studio execs fuck around with the movie/the director's vision and force him to do things he doesn't want?

Oh yeah, that's exactly what happened with SPIDER-MAN 3.
I haven't seen it yet but I agree with you. Execs need to learn when to give creative freedom in terms of the direction to the DIRECTOR. They did it with Nolan and Batman and it worked, same thing with Bryan Singer and X-Men.

so what has the past shown in terms of what happens when the studio execs fuck around with the movie/the director's vision and force him to do things he doesn't want?

Oh yeah, that's exactly what happened with SPIDER-MAN 3.
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