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Joss Whedon on why he chose Ultron as the villain for The Avengers 2

Jul. 30, 2013by: Jesse Giroux

Age of Ultron

It was at least a little surprising to most people when the full title for THE AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON was released at Comic-Con. Many thought that the character teased at the end of the first film (which I won't reveal here because I'm sure someone that hasn't seen THE AVENGERS yet will whine if I do) would be the big baddy for the next movie, but it looks like that character will be saved for a future film and Ultron will be the main villain battling The Avengers in 2015.

In a new interview with Total Film director Joss Whedon talks about adding Ultron to the mix and reveals that even though there was the cameo/tease at the end of THE AVENGERS, he suggested using the villain for the second film even before he started work on the first one:

I was pitching Ultron before I took the job on the first movie. I was like, ‘I don’t know if I want to do this, but for the second one, you should totally do Ultron.’ Because he’s been a thorn in their side as much as any other character over the years and particularly back in my history. He was great. He’s somebody who can juice things up and he’s a real problem for the Avengers. That’s not always easy to find. It’s not like the Vulture is really going to give them a hard time for 20 minutes.

Yeah, Vulture would last about five seconds if he had to fight the entire Avengers team. With how powerful some of these superheroes (and whichever ones are being added to the new film) are you have to have a villain that can really go toe-to-toe with them. It was great to see The Avengers work as a team to fight off an alien army, but in the comics usually the most epic and important battles have been when the team is trying to take down one incredibly powerful foe. Like if all of The Avengers tried to take down Loki at once in the first film instead of him fighting Thor, Iron Man and Hulk separately. It's something I'm sure many fans (including myself) are very excited to see.

THE AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON is in theaters May 1st, 2015.

Extra Tidbit: Visually which version of Ultron from the comics do you think we'll see in THE AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON?
Source: Total Film

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2:40PM on 07/31/2013
ohh Spider-Man burn
ohh Spider-Man burn
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7:41PM on 07/30/2013
Please don't start a sentence with 'like'. Learn how to write properly....
Please don't start a sentence with 'like'. Learn how to write properly....
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10:12PM on 07/30/2013
Like that's going to stop him. Like, time to get off the internet.
Like that's going to stop him. Like, time to get off the internet.
1:03AM on 07/31/2013
Like, if we keep on starting sentences with 'like,' will you hold your breath until your face turns blue? Like, that would be more entertaining than your posts . . .
Like, if we keep on starting sentences with 'like,' will you hold your breath until your face turns blue? Like, that would be more entertaining than your posts . . .
3:21PM on 07/30/2013
I love what Marvel has been doing, and enjoyed every one of the [link] films so far, but they are batting 50% when it comes to adapting villains to their films. All 3 Iron Man films changed the characters so much that they were really original creations with exsisting names. Red Skull and Loki seem to be the most accurate so far... I hope we get a version of Ultron that does the villain justice. Knowing that Joss wrote the script gives me hope.
I love what Marvel has been doing, and enjoyed every one of the [link] films so far, but they are batting 50% when it comes to adapting villains to their films. All 3 Iron Man films changed the characters so much that they were really original creations with exsisting names. Red Skull and Loki seem to be the most accurate so far... I hope we get a version of Ultron that does the villain justice. Knowing that Joss wrote the script gives me hope.
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3:04PM on 07/30/2013
How Whedon really chose Ultron: "Hmmm, which villain would make the Black Widow look super kick-ass when she's kicking his ass?"
How Whedon really chose Ultron: "Hmmm, which villain would make the Black Widow look super kick-ass when she's kicking his ass?"
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2:19PM on 07/30/2013
I would like this Ultron to be some sort of Terminator or something..
I would like this Ultron to be some sort of Terminator or something..
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2:05PM on 07/30/2013
Ultron is cool, and I've been hoping they'd work him into a Marvel movie sooner or later.
Hopefully they'll do him justice, and i look forward to seeing how they handle his character.
Ultron is cool, and I've been hoping they'd work him into a Marvel movie sooner or later.
Hopefully they'll do him justice, and i look forward to seeing how they handle his character.
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1:32PM on 07/30/2013

I could take on the Vulture!

Ultron makes a good villain for this. Team up with Grim Reaper maybe and (Powerman) Simon Williams while introducing Vision makes for some interesting line into Antman.
Ultron makes a good villain for this. Team up with Grim Reaper maybe and (Powerman) Simon Williams while introducing Vision makes for some interesting line into Antman.
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12:06PM on 07/30/2013

Just don't make him a boring robot...

Thor was horrible because the destroyer was so bland and boring. The biggest part of why some comic book movies are better than others is the villain is more interesting. Xmen Origins had a fucked up Deadpool who didn't talk, it bombed. Xmen First Class had Kevin Bacon, it rocked. Fantastic Four 1 and 2 had a very boring Dr. Doom, they sucked. Spider-man 2 has Doc Ock, it rocked. See where I am going with this. Even Loki in the first Thor movie had nothing to do and was boring. I can see them
Thor was horrible because the destroyer was so bland and boring. The biggest part of why some comic book movies are better than others is the villain is more interesting. Xmen Origins had a fucked up Deadpool who didn't talk, it bombed. Xmen First Class had Kevin Bacon, it rocked. Fantastic Four 1 and 2 had a very boring Dr. Doom, they sucked. Spider-man 2 has Doc Ock, it rocked. See where I am going with this. Even Loki in the first Thor movie had nothing to do and was boring. I can see them going the way of Ultron but only if they give him personality and stuff to do besides walk, be tall and mumble a few lines of exposition.
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1:00PM on 07/30/2013
THOR was Horrible????? LOKI was Boring????? etc. WTF
THOR was Horrible????? LOKI was Boring????? etc. WTF
3:05AM on 07/31/2013
Do you even know who Ultron is? If not, read up on him. Also, the Destroyer wasn't the "main" villain in the first Thor movie and was not a robot (I suggest reading up in The Destroyer too). And, lastly, if the two FF movies were bad, it wasn't because Dr.Doom was it them lol
Do you even know who Ultron is? If not, read up on him. Also, the Destroyer wasn't the "main" villain in the first Thor movie and was not a robot (I suggest reading up in The Destroyer too). And, lastly, if the two FF movies were bad, it wasn't because Dr.Doom was it them lol
12:01PM on 07/30/2013

Did people really think they were going to use the avengers biggest villain in the sequel?

Unlike The Dark Knight, Thanos is a villain that needs to be saved for the final for this trilogy. I doubt he'll die or anything, but he is easily the greatest foe. However, I do look forward to the inclusion of Ultron
Unlike The Dark Knight, Thanos is a villain that needs to be saved for the final for this trilogy. I doubt he'll die or anything, but he is easily the greatest foe. However, I do look forward to the inclusion of Ultron
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11:12AM on 07/30/2013

...even an android can cry...

This could end up being one of the greatest experiences in mankinds history.
This could end up being one of the greatest experiences in mankinds history.
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10:51AM on 07/30/2013
Whilst I didn't know it at the time, makes perfect sense that Thanos isn't the baddie in part 2. They've only just discovered Earth - it's clearly got his interest. Some time to study it might be in order before unleashing badass epicness for an assumed third and final movie.
Whilst I didn't know it at the time, makes perfect sense that Thanos isn't the baddie in part 2. They've only just discovered Earth - it's clearly got his interest. Some time to study it might be in order before unleashing badass epicness for an assumed third and final movie.
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10:32AM on 07/30/2013

Maybe some more...

Hopefully they have another small villain or two to fight the Avengers. The first was great but I would have rather seen Avengers versus 1 or 2 villains who can take them rather than 1 leader villain and 500 drones being destroyed quickly.
Hopefully they have another small villain or two to fight the Avengers. The first was great but I would have rather seen Avengers versus 1 or 2 villains who can take them rather than 1 leader villain and 500 drones being destroyed quickly.
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12:34PM on 07/30/2013
Hopefully they will bring in Vision for that secondary villain. Which will be amazing once he turns good and is part of the Avengers in Phase 3
Hopefully they will bring in Vision for that secondary villain. Which will be amazing once he turns good and is part of the Avengers in Phase 3
10:22AM on 07/30/2013
Ultron takes the second Avengers film in a very unexpected direction. I figured that the Avengers films would just revolve around alien invaders and threats like Thanos. Ultron is a T-1000 style threat, and far more interesting than yet another alien attack. This means that Whedon wasn't joking when he said that Avengers 2 "should be better, not bigger".
Ultron takes the second Avengers film in a very unexpected direction. I figured that the Avengers films would just revolve around alien invaders and threats like Thanos. Ultron is a T-1000 style threat, and far more interesting than yet another alien attack. This means that Whedon wasn't joking when he said that Avengers 2 "should be better, not bigger".
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9:57AM on 07/30/2013
I'm glad he's been given the trust and creative freedom to work his magic and does not seem like he's being jerked around by studio executives, which I think was one of the very important reasons behind why the Avengers was such a good film and did so well. Gotta agree with deej about the teaser being a mite confusing, seeing as Thanos will not be the main villain for the sequel as previously (and understandably) assumed.
I'm glad he's been given the trust and creative freedom to work his magic and does not seem like he's being jerked around by studio executives, which I think was one of the very important reasons behind why the Avengers was such a good film and did so well. Gotta agree with deej about the teaser being a mite confusing, seeing as Thanos will not be the main villain for the sequel as previously (and understandably) assumed.
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9:56AM on 07/30/2013

Tone Changer

Thinking Ultron's being used as a tone changer here for Avengers 2, going with a technological nightmare villain (perhaps with some involvement of Thanos?) before we get to the big guy himself, the uber galactic threat. Don't know much about Ultron other than what I've read in these articles and comments (Soloist, thanks for replying last time 'round), but I can see this as one of the reasons he was picked. Regardless, pumped for an interesting cinematic adaptation.
Thinking Ultron's being used as a tone changer here for Avengers 2, going with a technological nightmare villain (perhaps with some involvement of Thanos?) before we get to the big guy himself, the uber galactic threat. Don't know much about Ultron other than what I've read in these articles and comments (Soloist, thanks for replying last time 'round), but I can see this as one of the reasons he was picked. Regardless, pumped for an interesting cinematic adaptation.
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10:08AM on 07/30/2013
Hey. Sorry if I forgt to reply. That's my mistake.
Hey. Sorry if I forgt to reply. That's my mistake.
10:42AM on 07/30/2013
No, no -- you did reply. I asked for some info on Ultron and you kindly obliged. Thanks for supplementing my Marvel education.
No, no -- you did reply. I asked for some info on Ultron and you kindly obliged. Thanks for supplementing my Marvel education.
2:39PM on 07/30/2013
Haha. No problem. Couldn't remember.
Haha. No problem. Couldn't remember.
9:54AM on 07/30/2013
Having Ultron as the main villain in this will be great. It'll really test The Avengers skill to work as a team. Knowing the scale Whedon will be working on this, the third movie will probably be as epic as epic can get.
Having Ultron as the main villain in this will be great. It'll really test The Avengers skill to work as a team. Knowing the scale Whedon will be working on this, the third movie will probably be as epic as epic can get.
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9:40AM on 07/30/2013
Soo... why didn't they show Ultron instead of Thanos at the end of the Avengers? ...
Soo... why didn't they show Ultron instead of Thanos at the end of the Avengers? ...
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10:14AM on 07/30/2013
Thanos is THE villain for the Avengers to tango with. They teased him in Avengers, they'll build him up in phase 2, and he'll knock them down in Avengers 3.
Thanos is THE villain for the Avengers to tango with. They teased him in Avengers, they'll build him up in phase 2, and he'll knock them down in Avengers 3.
11:21AM on 07/30/2013
Makes sense, thanks bob.
Makes sense, thanks bob.
9:36AM on 07/30/2013
The fight between The Avengers vs Ultron is going to be epic. Knowing Whedon, maybe someone won't make it out alive this time.
The fight between The Avengers vs Ultron is going to be epic. Knowing Whedon, maybe someone won't make it out alive this time.
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4:54PM on 07/31/2013
idk i could def see thanos thinning their ranks a bit but ultron idk ? then again his body is made from adamantium
idk i could def see thanos thinning their ranks a bit but ultron idk ? then again his body is made from adamantium
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