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Joss Whedon talks deleted scenes and what is in store for the S.H.I.E.L.D spinoff TV series

Aug. 31, 2012by: Alejandro Stepenberg

It's a bit strange to think that in three years I'll still be writing/talking about THE AVENGERS. And there's a good chance for three more years after that. If I had a dollar...

But if I never imagined that THE AVENGERS would happen, let alone in the spectacular way that it has (sorry Mr. Maidy), all the more so did I never imagine that we'd be receiving a TV show set in the universe of THE AVENGERS.  Let alone a TV show set in the universe of THE AVENGERS and co-written/directed by Joss Whedon.  Because whoa.  Just... just let that really sink in for a moment. 

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On why the framing device of Maria Hill reporting to The Council was cut: Two factors. One: The movie was three hours long. Two: Audiences didn't respond to it as well in the movie as I think they would as a DVD extra. Most of them didn't know who this character was or what the context was, and they were like, Uhhh, I don't know why I'm supposed to be personally involved in this character I don't know. The rollout to the Avengers getting to Loki was so gradual that people were getting restless. I thought Cobie nailed it, and the reason I thought it was necessary is because I was trying to make a war movie and I wanted to give context that something bad had happened in the past. In a war movie, you don't know who's going to live or die, but you do know that this war happened and that [the characters] are going to be in a dire circumstance, and I wanted to create that atmosphere.  I was able to get what I needed without doing that. It was tough. I hated cutting it.

On why he decided to inundate himself in Marvel's Cinematic Universe for the next three years: I loved the idea of being a consigliere. Every writer loves the idea of being able to go in and fix a problem and then leave without obligation. It's fun! I also love these characters and the Marvel universe, and I grew up reading the books, and I've been going back and reading the old books and realizing that they shaped my storytelling way more than I give them credit for. Now I'm starting up a TV show, which is something I really wanted to do, but I thought it wasn't going to be a part of my life for the next several years. It's like a tapas menus of projects that excite me, in addition to the Avengers sequel, which I'm excited for because I'm incredibly excited about the next story that I'm going to tell. For me, it's a huge win.

It is unbelievably daunting, especially because I don't want to lose sight of all the other things I have on my docket and in my heart. So, it's going to be an insane few years, but I feel ready for that. It's an unholy amount of productivity, but as long as I give it all I can, it's a good thing. What's great is that the deal with Marvel is nonspecific, so I will give all I can, but the moment I can't, I just walk away. The moment I say, "You know, I'd like to help more on this project, but I need this time for The Avengers," there's no obligation. It's not like, "You must spend this amount of time on this movie." It's as much as it needs to be.

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On how it feels to be co-writing/directing the pilot for a show that "won't air Friday night": The important thing to me is that we know what the show is. We love what it is. It came together very organically, so when we went in to pitch [to Marvel], it wasn't like, We're trying to find this because you want a TV show, it was, Check this out. And that's a good way to walk in a room.  Good support is wonderful, but it's not a hill of beans, because they may give us all this support and then decide, "Eh. Yeah, it's Friday." They might give us all the support and then not do that, but then audiences might go, "Yeahhh … no." You just can't be sure. What I do know is that it's the show it should be, and we've got some really dope notions. It's going to work very well for people who either love the Marvel universe or for people who've never dipped a toe in the Marvel universe.

And in a final word that is either humble or damning depending on your opinion of Whedone and the movie: I don't think it's a perfect movie. I don't even think it's a great movie. I think it's a great time, and I'm proud of it, but for me, what was exciting is that people don't go to see a movie that many times unless it's pulling on something from within, unless there's a need there. That's very gratifying.

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Extra Tidbit: When asked if it has sunk in yet that he's gone from having the smaller but passionate fanbase of Buffy/Firefly lovers to the fanbase of a movie everyone across the world as seen: It never really has, but when it does, I'm going to become such an enormous dick. [Laughs.] I'm going to be insufferable — well, I mean more insufferable than I already am.
Source: Vulture

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11:17AM on 08/31/2012
Classy dude. Passionate about working and playing with his favorite toys. Honest.
More like Joss, please.
Classy dude. Passionate about working and playing with his favorite toys. Honest.
More like Joss, please.
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11:57AM on 08/31/2012
There you go, even the fucking director of the movie says it's not great.

Don't get me wrong, I liked it. But that's not suprising when you have a movie filled with the likes of Iron Man, the Hulk, Thor etc. It just wasn't the superhero classic the fanboys make it out to be.
There you go, even the fucking director of the movie says it's not great.

Don't get me wrong, I liked it. But that's not suprising when you have a movie filled with the likes of Iron Man, the Hulk, Thor etc. It just wasn't the superhero classic the fanboys make it out to be.
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4:48AM on 09/02/2012
Whedon was being humble when he said, "I don't think it's a perfect movie". That's fine, a pretty common statement even. But, "I don't even think it's a great movie." is a bit beyond being humble. That's just plain old honesty if you ask me. I don't think it's a "great" movie either, I'd classify it more along the lines of "very good".

Anyway you're right, I too have spent too much time arguing on here. Best to agree to disagree.
Whedon was being humble when he said, "I don't think it's a perfect movie". That's fine, a pretty common statement even. But, "I don't even think it's a great movie." is a bit beyond being humble. That's just plain old honesty if you ask me. I don't think it's a "great" movie either, I'd classify it more along the lines of "very good".

Anyway you're right, I too have spent too much time arguing on here. Best to agree to disagree.
11:42PM on 09/01/2012
Here, let me list all the instances of directors in the history of film being critical of their own work... The point is he's being humble. A lot of people who create are humble. The reception of the product they create speaks for itself. When you aren't, you sound like a dickhead and full of yourself. i.e. Kanye West

I'm leaving it at that, I've been getting into too many dumbass arguments in the comment sections recently haha
Here, let me list all the instances of directors in the history of film being critical of their own work... The point is he's being humble. A lot of people who create are humble. The reception of the product they create speaks for itself. When you aren't, you sound like a dickhead and full of yourself. i.e. Kanye West

I'm leaving it at that, I've been getting into too many dumbass arguments in the comment sections recently haha
4:01PM on 09/01/2012
Uhm... okay, but what has that have to do with anything?

Here we have a director who called his own movie not great. You said something along the lines of "Duh." I ask you how many other similar instances you know of. And you randomly bring up the fact that directors don't usually hail their own films either. So?
Uhm... okay, but what has that have to do with anything?

Here we have a director who called his own movie not great. You said something along the lines of "Duh." I ask you how many other similar instances you know of. And you randomly bring up the fact that directors don't usually hail their own films either. So?
7:45PM on 08/31/2012
When was the last time you heard of a director putting their own film up on a pedestal, that wasn't talking to the press rite before it came out? I couldn't name a legit director who would call one of their own films a masterpiece by any means.
When was the last time you heard of a director putting their own film up on a pedestal, that wasn't talking to the press rite before it came out? I couldn't name a legit director who would call one of their own films a masterpiece by any means.
3:08PM on 08/31/2012
What the hell are you trying to say? When was the last time you heard a director say something like that about his own film? Not saying it doesn't happen but it's quite rare.
What the hell are you trying to say? When was the last time you heard a director say something like that about his own film? Not saying it doesn't happen but it's quite rare.
12:46PM on 08/31/2012
A director was critical of his own work? The hell you say...
A director was critical of his own work? The hell you say...
1:17PM on 08/31/2012
I have the Blu-ray bought it on monday! I saw the alternate opening and i think that it was deleted because Cobie didnot naild she was really bad for that scene! Its 2 bad because this scene could have made Hill a greater character
I have the Blu-ray bought it on monday! I saw the alternate opening and i think that it was deleted because Cobie didnot naild she was really bad for that scene! Its 2 bad because this scene could have made Hill a greater character
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3:56PM on 08/31/2012
I think Whedon described the movie perfectly. It's a great time. I love the Avengers, but do I consider it a GREAT movie like Raiders of the Lost Ark? No, greatness like Raiders is rare. Do I think it is Whedon's best work? No. Do I think it is one of the best comic book movies out there? Absolutely.

I think Whedon is hinting that he sees room for improvement with a sequel. Remember, that Whedon rewrote an existing script with Avengers. With the sequel he gets to create the story from the
I think Whedon described the movie perfectly. It's a great time. I love the Avengers, but do I consider it a GREAT movie like Raiders of the Lost Ark? No, greatness like Raiders is rare. Do I think it is Whedon's best work? No. Do I think it is one of the best comic book movies out there? Absolutely.

I think Whedon is hinting that he sees room for improvement with a sequel. Remember, that Whedon rewrote an existing script with Avengers. With the sequel he gets to create the story from the ground up. He also gets some creative input on Marvel's Phase 2. Marvel should give Whedon complete creative control of A2, after all he wrote one of their best selling comic books (which is also the best X-Men story of the past several decades) and directed their most successful movie to date.
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5:35PM on 08/31/2012
I've been looking for a way to describe The Avengers ever since I saw it (7 times) back in May, and now I see that Joss Whedon himself has found the perfect description of his film. It's a great time. Not a perfect movie, not a cinematic masterpiece, not the best damn thing ever made..but a really, really great time. One that I'll be watching a dozen more times this year, at least.
I've been looking for a way to describe The Avengers ever since I saw it (7 times) back in May, and now I see that Joss Whedon himself has found the perfect description of his film. It's a great time. Not a perfect movie, not a cinematic masterpiece, not the best damn thing ever made..but a really, really great time. One that I'll be watching a dozen more times this year, at least.
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8:38PM on 08/31/2012
Best thing Marvel could do
Best thing Marvel could do
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