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Just how much is the origin of Spidey being altered in The Amazing Spider-Man?

May. 4, 2012by: Paul Shirey

I'm going to preface this story with a SPOILER warning, so if you want to remain in the dark about possible details about THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN just go ahead and skip this one.  You've been warned.

Okay, if your'e still with me, let's get down to it.

The folks over at Bad Ass Digest decided to share some information that may or may not sway you on this whole "new" origin of Spider-Man in the upcoming film.  I'll let them tell it:

"Three sources have told me this, but I held it. I didn't see the point in running it now, when the movie has been shot and edited and is ready to go. Nothing can be changed. But then the new trailer hits today and all but spells this out, so what the hell, here we go:

Spider-Man's origin has been changed in THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. The spider bite no longer gives Peter powers, it rather activates something already in his genetic structure. Something placed there by his father. Peter Parker is no longer super-powered by chance, but rather by design."

When talking about the traditional mythos of Spidey this is a pretty big change.  There have been a number of changes that have rolled down the pipe, including the exclusion of the amateur wrestling scene, that have fanned the flames of fanboy outrage.  Now, comes the notion that Peter Parker's Papa infused his kid with a genetic something-or-other that gives him powers, rather than a nerdy science kid getting bit by a radioactive spider.

If accurate (and the trailer released yesterday eluded to this heavily), this is a rather large thematic shift for Spidey.  The only question is: Will fans bite?  I know that some of you will be off your rocker with this news (and let's not forget what Raimi did to the origin with the clumsy Sandman inclusion in SPIDER-MAN 3) and others may be indifferent.

I'm kind of numb to it all, myself.  I'm not feeling the film, but I know many are (people were clapping after the trailer during THE AVENGERS screening last night), but it really does feel that they are going out of their way to change things up in order to not cover old ground.  It's a big risk.  Will it pay off?

How much are you willing to let slide on a reboot of your friendly, neighborhood Spider-Man?

THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN opens on July 3, 2012.

Extra Tidbit: I'm almost wondering if the negative press for this flick will actually work in its favor. Surely, many of the naysayers will still warm a theater seat for the film regardless. And don't call me Shirley.
Source: Bad Ass Digest

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9:54AM on 05/15/2012

Its a REAL origin

This news is awesome to me. I have always been a fan of the Ultimate Spider-Man series, and in the origin story for the Ultimate Spider-Man he is genetically manipulated by Oscorp. So, if fans bitch, they obvdiously need to bone up on their Spidey history before condemning the movie for changing his origins from the one almost everyone knows about to what I would actually consider a better, more intriguing beginning to a super hero. Just saying, they didn't make this up for the movie. It's from
This news is awesome to me. I have always been a fan of the Ultimate Spider-Man series, and in the origin story for the Ultimate Spider-Man he is genetically manipulated by Oscorp. So, if fans bitch, they obvdiously need to bone up on their Spidey history before condemning the movie for changing his origins from the one almost everyone knows about to what I would actually consider a better, more intriguing beginning to a super hero. Just saying, they didn't make this up for the movie. It's from the comics.
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8:18AM on 05/07/2012

Geez...can you say "Ang Lee's Hulk" all over again?

The following line could be right out of Ang Lee's shitty Hulk film:

"it rather activates something already in his genetic structure. Something placed there by his father."

And we know how well that story played out....
The following line could be right out of Ang Lee's shitty Hulk film:

"it rather activates something already in his genetic structure. Something placed there by his father."

And we know how well that story played out....
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6:26AM on 05/07/2012

I won't be going to see this.

Will it matter - no. It's a Spiderman movie coming out during the 4th of July holiday, it'll make money, whether it deserves to or not.

If things work out I should be seeing Prometheus a 2nd (or 3rd) time during this weekend.
Will it matter - no. It's a Spiderman movie coming out during the 4th of July holiday, it'll make money, whether it deserves to or not.

If things work out I should be seeing Prometheus a 2nd (or 3rd) time during this weekend.
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9:03PM on 05/06/2012
oh fuck no, i cant stand most fanboy bitching but when ya mess with the true origins of an iconic character it pisses off just about any fan period. Fuck this movie times 10. Doesn't Stan Lee have at least some control of what is put in the films since is always in the executive producer credits of all the Marvel films. This movie is just doing everything possible to shy itself from the original trilogy. Yep I am staying far away from this one.
oh fuck no, i cant stand most fanboy bitching but when ya mess with the true origins of an iconic character it pisses off just about any fan period. Fuck this movie times 10. Doesn't Stan Lee have at least some control of what is put in the films since is always in the executive producer credits of all the Marvel films. This movie is just doing everything possible to shy itself from the original trilogy. Yep I am staying far away from this one.
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2:36PM on 05/06/2012
Yeah, good idea... I mean origins ? Who Cares!!!
Coming Next:
Superman is NO alien but a mutant
Batman's parents survive and help him in its training
Iron Man is a robot
and Hulk is a mutant Smurf...
NO BIG DEAL...
FUCK THIS SHIT !
NB: In the regular Marvel Universe, Peter's parents WERE agents of the SHIELD, and in the Ultimate Universe his father WAS a scientist who's work created the Ultimate Universe's Venom...
Yeah, good idea... I mean origins ? Who Cares!!!
Coming Next:
Superman is NO alien but a mutant
Batman's parents survive and help him in its training
Iron Man is a robot
and Hulk is a mutant Smurf...
NO BIG DEAL...
FUCK THIS SHIT !
NB: In the regular Marvel Universe, Peter's parents WERE agents of the SHIELD, and in the Ultimate Universe his father WAS a scientist who's work created the Ultimate Universe's Venom...
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1:03AM on 05/06/2012

Spidey sense is tingling

As long as his dad doesn't show up at the end and gnaw on a power cord, the news is not a deal breaker.

I'm happy to see the Spidey humor -- begging for mercy when the thief pulls a knife -- which, for me, was an element missing from Raimi's.
As long as his dad doesn't show up at the end and gnaw on a power cord, the news is not a deal breaker.

I'm happy to see the Spidey humor -- begging for mercy when the thief pulls a knife -- which, for me, was an element missing from Raimi's.
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12:59AM on 05/06/2012
It kinda kills the "anybody can be a hero" aspect, which is part of Spider-man's appeal.
It kinda kills the "anybody can be a hero" aspect, which is part of Spider-man's appeal.
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11:13PM on 05/05/2012

Examples of the weak defense fanboys give this movie:

1) He has web shooters! Finally, a Spiderman movie that is going to follow the comic!

2) Gwen Stacy!

3) This movie is following the comic, unlike that shit Raimi made which seriously deviated from the comic.

4) The Lizard looks more like his original appearance. This movie is following the comic!

Upon finding out that really nothing in the story is going to follow the comic at all:

1) I'm glad they decided to do something new.

2) Yeah, the comic was weak, it's best that they
1) He has web shooters! Finally, a Spiderman movie that is going to follow the comic!

2) Gwen Stacy!

3) This movie is following the comic, unlike that shit Raimi made which seriously deviated from the comic.

4) The Lizard looks more like his original appearance. This movie is following the comic!

Upon finding out that really nothing in the story is going to follow the comic at all:

1) I'm glad they decided to do something new.

2) Yeah, the comic was weak, it's best that they don't follow it.
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6:33PM on 05/05/2012

I can understand why Sony would change the origin...

It would be pointless to recreate what was just done for Spidey's beginnings. Yet I don't like the new Dr. Connors. He seems like an all around dick. "If you want to know the truth about your parents...come get it" wtf...the Dr. Connors in the comics was a good guy but when he was the Lizard had no control. Raimi's Connor was more in line with the comics version. I also could give a shit what happened to Peter's parents so that ENTIRE angle un-phases me and more fans like me. We just want to
It would be pointless to recreate what was just done for Spidey's beginnings. Yet I don't like the new Dr. Connors. He seems like an all around dick. "If you want to know the truth about your parents...come get it" wtf...the Dr. Connors in the comics was a good guy but when he was the Lizard had no control. Raimi's Connor was more in line with the comics version. I also could give a shit what happened to Peter's parents so that ENTIRE angle un-phases me and more fans like me. We just want to see Venom and Carnage done right.
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4:27PM on 05/05/2012
A total and unnecessary arsebrick of a movie.
A total and unnecessary arsebrick of a movie.
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2:21PM on 05/05/2012
I think the visual style of this movie looks cool as hell. I don't mind the changes. Why do I need to see what Raimi just did all over again? That said, if my read on the cultural pulse of this film is correct it could be in trouble. I don't know many people that are even aware of it, especially kids, and even less who want to see it. The marketing dept. for this movie has some work to do before July.
I think the visual style of this movie looks cool as hell. I don't mind the changes. Why do I need to see what Raimi just did all over again? That said, if my read on the cultural pulse of this film is correct it could be in trouble. I don't know many people that are even aware of it, especially kids, and even less who want to see it. The marketing dept. for this movie has some work to do before July.
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10:10AM on 05/05/2012
I'm still checking this out. I could care less about the wrestling scene being left out. I don't want a scene by scene reenactment of the 1st Raimi Spiderman. I only hope they don't leave out the part of Uncle Ben. Uncle Ben is the very reason Spidey is the kind of person that he is.

I also gather from the trailer that his origin story appears to be revealed by transcending the Batman Begins method of flashbacks throughout the film.
I'm still checking this out. I could care less about the wrestling scene being left out. I don't want a scene by scene reenactment of the 1st Raimi Spiderman. I only hope they don't leave out the part of Uncle Ben. Uncle Ben is the very reason Spidey is the kind of person that he is.

I also gather from the trailer that his origin story appears to be revealed by transcending the Batman Begins method of flashbacks throughout the film.
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9:16AM on 05/05/2012
i predict a flop
i predict a flop
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4:11AM on 05/05/2012
I guess it's slightly more convincing an origin story than getting these powers purely from a spider bite, but then it's a comicbook movie so why should it matter? The last movies had him producing goo from his wrists just from a spider bite. Now, with extensive genetic meddling, he needs to use web shooters. Seems a little backward. Still, whatever the origin, the trailer for this looked pretty cool.
I guess it's slightly more convincing an origin story than getting these powers purely from a spider bite, but then it's a comicbook movie so why should it matter? The last movies had him producing goo from his wrists just from a spider bite. Now, with extensive genetic meddling, he needs to use web shooters. Seems a little backward. Still, whatever the origin, the trailer for this looked pretty cool.
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2:42AM on 05/05/2012
And here I was looking forward to The Amazing Spider-Man after the latest trailer.

I don't like the sounds of this at all.
And here I was looking forward to The Amazing Spider-Man after the latest trailer.

I don't like the sounds of this at all.
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10:45PM on 05/04/2012
I was cold on this reboot from day one. After seeing the trailers, I'm still cold on it. The latest news doesn't phase me since I was never planning on seeing this anyway.
I was cold on this reboot from day one. After seeing the trailers, I'm still cold on it. The latest news doesn't phase me since I was never planning on seeing this anyway.
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10:12PM on 05/04/2012
And this horrible news after yesterdays awesome trailer. Things aint looking good for spidey.
And this horrible news after yesterdays awesome trailer. Things aint looking good for spidey.
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10:05PM on 05/04/2012

I know this has been brought up before with the lizard

with the whole snout vs. no snout argument. I'm in the pro-snout group, so I may be biased, but come on. That first picture looks way too much like a goomba from mario brothers.

Way too much.
with the whole snout vs. no snout argument. I'm in the pro-snout group, so I may be biased, but come on. That first picture looks way too much like a goomba from mario brothers.

Way too much.
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9:50PM on 05/04/2012

Not a big deal

I'm fine with the change as so long its a good, no scratch that, great movie...they've had enough time with it to get it right so they should. On the plus side of things I'm really hip to his new digs; The blue and red really pop on screen.
I'm fine with the change as so long its a good, no scratch that, great movie...they've had enough time with it to get it right so they should. On the plus side of things I'm really hip to his new digs; The blue and red really pop on screen.
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9:39PM on 05/04/2012

A No Go...

Saw the 3D preview in front of Avengers today. My wife summed it all up when she said, "I won't be going to the theater to see that one."

Are some of us suffering from Spidey burnout? I'm afraid that this will affect the new Superman movie as well.

Could we be seeing turkeys on the horizon? I don't know.
Saw the 3D preview in front of Avengers today. My wife summed it all up when she said, "I won't be going to the theater to see that one."

Are some of us suffering from Spidey burnout? I'm afraid that this will affect the new Superman movie as well.

Could we be seeing turkeys on the horizon? I don't know.
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10:34PM on 05/06/2012
Spidey burnout, maybe (I'm still going to watch it anyway) but it'll be 7 years since we had a Superman, and that was nothing franchise-worthy how is this going to affect Superman? Are we going to get Batman burnout from having 2 epic ones?
Spidey burnout, maybe (I'm still going to watch it anyway) but it'll be 7 years since we had a Superman, and that was nothing franchise-worthy how is this going to affect Superman? Are we going to get Batman burnout from having 2 epic ones?
11:21PM on 05/06/2012
@lordseshomaru86. You said it yourself in your own reply friend. "Nothing franchise-worthy" Superman (that most folks disliked as I recall). This means IMO that the movie going public were left with a bad taste in their mouths from "Superman Returns" and probably won't take a look at another version.

I hope that I am wrong.
@lordseshomaru86. You said it yourself in your own reply friend. "Nothing franchise-worthy" Superman (that most folks disliked as I recall). This means IMO that the movie going public were left with a bad taste in their mouths from "Superman Returns" and probably won't take a look at another version.

I hope that I am wrong.
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9:28PM on 05/04/2012
Is this something they did in the comic book as of late? As long as he still gets bit, it adds an interesting layer IF the movie works. I've had faith in this from the start, though recent news has kinda tested it. It's a hell of a gamble, but so were the organic web shooters. If it works, it works, if not, we just burn the theater down.
Is this something they did in the comic book as of late? As long as he still gets bit, it adds an interesting layer IF the movie works. I've had faith in this from the start, though recent news has kinda tested it. It's a hell of a gamble, but so were the organic web shooters. If it works, it works, if not, we just burn the theater down.
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7:49PM on 05/04/2012
Isn't there a series of Spidey, where his father was once recruited by SHIELD?
Makes me wonder if he is looking for the truth about his parents, if it will some how lead him to SHIELD.
Avengers and Spidey? I know spiderman is owned by Sony. But Disney has millions more than Sony. I am sure something would be worked out.
Isn't there a series of Spidey, where his father was once recruited by SHIELD?
Makes me wonder if he is looking for the truth about his parents, if it will some how lead him to SHIELD.
Avengers and Spidey? I know spiderman is owned by Sony. But Disney has millions more than Sony. I am sure something would be worked out.
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6:43PM on 05/04/2012
First people complain that this is another origin story, now they're bitching because they changed it up. You just can't win!
First people complain that this is another origin story, now they're bitching because they changed it up. You just can't win!
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5:56PM on 05/04/2012

Good!!!

Good. Peter orgin story was weak. Like stan lee had 3 mins to figure it out. I'm glad they gave spidey a new beginning, man. It's gotten me interested with a more developed character. This is great news HATERS
Good. Peter orgin story was weak. Like stan lee had 3 mins to figure it out. I'm glad they gave spidey a new beginning, man. It's gotten me interested with a more developed character. This is great news HATERS
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6:35PM on 05/05/2012
Thumbs down for you!
Thumbs down for you!
5:48PM on 05/04/2012

"but it really does feel that they are going out of their way to change things up in order to not cover old ground."

Exactly my feeling. They trying so hard to make it seem uniquely inspired, and the result are some unbecoming changes to the fabric of the character. No interest.
Exactly my feeling. They trying so hard to make it seem uniquely inspired, and the result are some unbecoming changes to the fabric of the character. No interest.
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4:55PM on 05/04/2012
kind of reminds me of that shitty Hulk movie.. didn't his dad kind of do the same thing.
kind of reminds me of that shitty Hulk movie.. didn't his dad kind of do the same thing.
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9:11PM on 05/06/2012
I was just thinking the same thing?
I was just thinking the same thing?
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4:48PM on 05/04/2012
They've done this before. It was called The Hulk and we all know how bad that movie sucked.
They've done this before. It was called The Hulk and we all know how bad that movie sucked.
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4:45PM on 05/04/2012

I can let it go...

...'cuz atleast they're getting practically EVERYTHING ELSE RIGHT.
...'cuz atleast they're getting practically EVERYTHING ELSE RIGHT.
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4:27PM on 05/04/2012

I'm cool with it.

I could easily see a run of Spiderman comics that take precisely this angle. And it frankly is a smart bit of storytelling to reconcile the fact that he's a brilliant inventor AND was somehow lucky enough to be given superpowers by a spider bite.

We'll see how it goes in the finished product.
I could easily see a run of Spiderman comics that take precisely this angle. And it frankly is a smart bit of storytelling to reconcile the fact that he's a brilliant inventor AND was somehow lucky enough to be given superpowers by a spider bite.

We'll see how it goes in the finished product.
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4:20PM on 05/04/2012
I'm still not seeing a reason for an origin rehash, other than to add this stupidity to it. If I don't get a free sneak preview pass, I'll wait to see it on dvd as a rental. There are plenty of other much more worthy material to spend my money on this summer.
I'm still not seeing a reason for an origin rehash, other than to add this stupidity to it. If I don't get a free sneak preview pass, I'll wait to see it on dvd as a rental. There are plenty of other much more worthy material to spend my money on this summer.
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4:14PM on 05/04/2012

DON'T CARE ...

... comics are comics, and movies are BASED UPON comics. If the story sticks, actors play, and director knows what he's doing, I don't care about bad CGI or anything else. Great movies are great because of that, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Spidey. God knows he'll need it ...
... comics are comics, and movies are BASED UPON comics. If the story sticks, actors play, and director knows what he's doing, I don't care about bad CGI or anything else. Great movies are great because of that, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Spidey. God knows he'll need it ...
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4:10PM on 05/04/2012

So lame...

I will be avoiding this at all costs.
I will be avoiding this at all costs.
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4:09PM on 05/04/2012

I'm actually for this....

Until wednesday I was completely against this film ( despite my love for Emma Stone). But after the trailer and now this, there might be enough of a difference between Raimi's Spiderman and this. Let's be honest...did we really want the same stupid origin story again since we're stuck with a reboot? This kinda makes more sense if his father is gonna be a scientist in this one, instead of a random accident that could in reality kill anyone.Garfield seems more like a wiseass with this Spidey and
Until wednesday I was completely against this film ( despite my love for Emma Stone). But after the trailer and now this, there might be enough of a difference between Raimi's Spiderman and this. Let's be honest...did we really want the same stupid origin story again since we're stuck with a reboot? This kinda makes more sense if his father is gonna be a scientist in this one, instead of a random accident that could in reality kill anyone.Garfield seems more like a wiseass with this Spidey and I like that.

I also quickly think of Nolan's version of Batman....they kept key things the same...but still completely changed his origin. And people ended up being happy with that. I feel like this will do the same.
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4:05PM on 05/04/2012
Not a big fan of this. It changes elements that make Peter Parker who he is. Now we have some dark origin story about Peter Parker being an experiment of his fathers. I'm not biting. The latest trailer looked good, but I don't care for these story elements. It just changes a lot of things about the character for me.
Not a big fan of this. It changes elements that make Peter Parker who he is. Now we have some dark origin story about Peter Parker being an experiment of his fathers. I'm not biting. The latest trailer looked good, but I don't care for these story elements. It just changes a lot of things about the character for me.
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4:01PM on 05/04/2012
I am very excited for this film. The trailers have benn very good. I think these trailers have been better than the iffy trailers of the avengers. Luckilly The avengers was great. I have faith that this will be the best Spider-Man film yet. I dont know what people are getting all glum about Raimis Spiderman was terrible and Its annoying to watch Tobey Maguire butcher the character. So they changed the spider bite. I never bought that whole bit anyways it just doesnt seem very realistic. Which
I am very excited for this film. The trailers have benn very good. I think these trailers have been better than the iffy trailers of the avengers. Luckilly The avengers was great. I have faith that this will be the best Spider-Man film yet. I dont know what people are getting all glum about Raimis Spiderman was terrible and Its annoying to watch Tobey Maguire butcher the character. So they changed the spider bite. I never bought that whole bit anyways it just doesnt seem very realistic. Which is what this film is going for. Well as realistic as you can get with Spider-Man at least.
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3:46PM on 05/04/2012
It reminds me of the team-ending disagreement between Ditko and Lee about the identity of the Green Goblin. Ditko wanted it to be a nobody, thus reinforcing the faceless randomness of crime. Lee wanted it tied to Spidey's life. The rest is history. I like the random aspect.
It reminds me of the team-ending disagreement between Ditko and Lee about the identity of the Green Goblin. Ditko wanted it to be a nobody, thus reinforcing the faceless randomness of crime. Lee wanted it tied to Spidey's life. The rest is history. I like the random aspect.
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3:38PM on 05/04/2012

It's lame an unnecessary...

...just like Ang Lee's Hulk as many others have mentioned. This recks to me as "different for the sake of being different. While there are things I prefer about this take than the one before (mechanical web shooters are a big one, and I actually do like the snout-less Lizard), I think I'm gonna end up preferring the last series to this one...
...just like Ang Lee's Hulk as many others have mentioned. This recks to me as "different for the sake of being different. While there are things I prefer about this take than the one before (mechanical web shooters are a big one, and I actually do like the snout-less Lizard), I think I'm gonna end up preferring the last series to this one...
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3:36PM on 05/04/2012
And just like that, people lose interest again. These are some awful changes that will sure to piss fans off. If people can get upset over ninja turtles coming from space, I can only imagine what they'll say about this. And the folks it doesn't piss off, others will just be seriously confused. I'm usually flexible when it comes to changes from the source material, but even I think this is a bit much and unnecessary. I want radioactive spider, not genetically altered Peter.
And just like that, people lose interest again. These are some awful changes that will sure to piss fans off. If people can get upset over ninja turtles coming from space, I can only imagine what they'll say about this. And the folks it doesn't piss off, others will just be seriously confused. I'm usually flexible when it comes to changes from the source material, but even I think this is a bit much and unnecessary. I want radioactive spider, not genetically altered Peter.
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3:16PM on 05/04/2012
Oh Jesus, it's exactly like Ang Lee's HULK.

Bruce's father manipulates his genetic code but it takes the Gamma rays to trigger it.

Still getting excited for the movie but just pointing that out.
Oh Jesus, it's exactly like Ang Lee's HULK.

Bruce's father manipulates his genetic code but it takes the Gamma rays to trigger it.

Still getting excited for the movie but just pointing that out.
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3:26PM on 05/04/2012
I though the same thing. And we all know how Ang Lee's Hulk turned out.
I though the same thing. And we all know how Ang Lee's Hulk turned out.
3:39PM on 05/04/2012
Yeah true. I know in the Hulk it was an accident as his father was actually experimenting on himself and it passed on but same idea.

It's not necessarily a bad thing but was just pointing it out.

I'm still getting excited to see it though.
Yeah true. I know in the Hulk it was an accident as his father was actually experimenting on himself and it passed on but same idea.

It's not necessarily a bad thing but was just pointing it out.

I'm still getting excited to see it though.