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05.07.2013

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You would think Marvel would be the last company to give DC advice, right? While Marvel is already starting the second phase of their films, DC is still trying to figure out what the hell to do with JUSTICE LEAGUE. DC does have MAN OF STEEL out in June and if that film is a big hit things could speed up significantly for JUSTICE LEAGUE. But it's pretty clear that although DC may have "more important" characters, it doesn't matter in the comic book movie race and right now Marvel is definitely ahead.

Marvel Stuidos' Kevin Feige helped THE AVENGERS assemble so DC might want to take note on a couple of things he said to Collider in a recent interview. The site asked Feige if he had any suggestions for DC on how to make JUSTICE LEAGUE:

I don’t know. I’m sure they have smart people over there who have a plan and know what they’re doing. Man of Steel looks like it’s going to be awesome and obviously Dark Knight is awesome. I don’t know. It’s what I say all the time and have said over the years, which is, have confidence in the characters, believe in the source material, don’t be afraid to stay true to all of the elements of the characters no matter how seemingly silly or crazy they are. I don’t know, I think the Marvel characters have a bit of a leg up for all the reasons that Marvel fans are aware of in terms of the emotional complexity of the characters and the flawed nature of the characters. Those are obviously the elements we want to accentuate amongst all the action.

I can see what Feige is trying to say and Marvel has done a pretty decent job with staying true to the source material but it sounds a little hypocritical to me, especially when you consider the changes that were made to a certain character in IRON MAN 3. I'm not a purist who thinks that the film needs to completely mirror the comic but I agree that not following the source material for unnecessary reasons is a bad move when making a comic book movie. Kevin Feige also gave DC credit for having some fantastic stories and creating the superhero team-up in the first place with the Justice League comics:

I think there have been a lot of great DC stories and there are a lot of great DC characters, and if they focus on those things the audience will be interested.  It was a very unique model that we were lucky enough to be able to do – introducing each individual hero before introducing The Avengers.  That, to me, is what was always interesting about The Avengers. The Avengers are not The Guardians of the Galaxy, are not The Dirty Dozen, where you spend a movie introducing each character and putting them together for the first time. The Avengers was cool because they were preexisting characters that teamed up for a big event. I think that’s why Justice League was cool, Justice League was first. That’s what they did first in comic form.

It's going to be very entertaining couple of years seeing these two companies battle it out in theaters. I hope with so much money and focus being spent on comic book films that each company pushes the other to continue to make quality films. Of course we won't know how MAN OF STEEL is until June but it looks like that film is a step in the right direction for DC and JUSTICE LEAGUE.

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Extra Tidbit: How much money (and years of negotiating) would it take for a JUSTICE LEAGUE vs. THE AVENGERS movie? It might sound completely ridiculous but it wasn't that long ago that THE AVENGERS seemed impossible too.
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8:38AM on 05/07/2013

True story.

This is completely right. What seperates Marvel Studios films from Marvel films by other companies like Sony or Fox, is that they really don't make too many excuses when bringing the comic books to life. There is no director's ego to make changes just because, and their is no excuses on why something drawn on a page can't work in a movie. There are no black X-Men outfits, or Galactus tornados, or giving Spider-Man organic web shooters. The changes that they do make are smart, and feel right at
This is completely right. What seperates Marvel Studios films from Marvel films by other companies like Sony or Fox, is that they really don't make too many excuses when bringing the comic books to life. There is no director's ego to make changes just because, and their is no excuses on why something drawn on a page can't work in a movie. There are no black X-Men outfits, or Galactus tornados, or giving Spider-Man organic web shooters. The changes that they do make are smart, and feel right at home in the "Ultimate Universe". They don't pander to the audience out of fear they won't get it, or relate, and take bold risks like doing off beat projects like "Guardians of the Galaxy", while Warner Bros. is too terrified to even do a Flash movie. So, yes, I agree with what Kevin Feige is saying here. WB/DC needs to stop making excuses, and start living up to the example set by their animation department since the 90s.
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9:49AM on 05/07/2013
Please, Feige is just as guilty of underplaying the characters as anyone else. He isn't as bad as Avi Arad was, but he isn't that great to be giving anyone else advice.
Please, Feige is just as guilty of underplaying the characters as anyone else. He isn't as bad as Avi Arad was, but he isn't that great to be giving anyone else advice.
8:54AM on 05/07/2013
Well said.
Well said.
8:45AM on 05/07/2013
Justice League just has to have the balls to do what Marvel did. Like the article said, believe in the source material because if the studio making the films doesn't believe in its movies, how should us fans believe in the films they release.
Justice League just has to have the balls to do what Marvel did. Like the article said, believe in the source material because if the studio making the films doesn't believe in its movies, how should us fans believe in the films they release.
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8:53AM on 05/07/2013

False.

The WB does NOT have smart people.
The WB does NOT have smart people.
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9:02AM on 05/07/2013
Listen DC, forget Justice League for now. Get going with Batman/Superman movie. If it's a success, good chances that it will lead a path to Justice League movie.
Listen DC, forget Justice League for now. Get going with Batman/Superman movie. If it's a success, good chances that it will lead a path to Justice League movie.
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9:09AM on 05/07/2013

IRON MAN 3 SPOILER - Do not read this post

AmazSpiderman1 - you made good points...but I'd say the changes to The Mandarin went against comic source and judging by fan reaction seems more negative than not. Now as another poster pointed out in a detailed response to someone else on this site, The Mandarin is actually Guy Pearce - sure, I know Guy Pearce actually says this in the movie but its a fact I completely overlooked such was Marvels brilliant efforts of promoting Kingsley’s character as The Mandarin. The trailer where he says
AmazSpiderman1 - you made good points...but I'd say the changes to The Mandarin went against comic source and judging by fan reaction seems more negative than not. Now as another poster pointed out in a detailed response to someone else on this site, The Mandarin is actually Guy Pearce - sure, I know Guy Pearce actually says this in the movie but its a fact I completely overlooked such was Marvels brilliant efforts of promoting Kingsley’s character as The Mandarin. The trailer where he says his dramatic comic lines (e.g. there are no superheroes or you'll never see me coming) or his look - that was the The Mandarin I wanted to see - not Guy Pearce's version.

By the way, Spider-Man organic web shooters make perfect sense and are one of those changes that the comics should have had in the first place. I read once that the point of it was to make Parker even more of the odd man out (e.g. wearing full sleeve shirts in the summer to cover the scars). Incidentally, I am still not fully sure where Peter Parker is getting his web fluid from in the last movie - is he buying it from Oscorp or something????
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3:35PM on 05/07/2013
@MickLoud, perfectly said! Thank you!

I am an Iron Man comics fan, but I am a movie buff first and foremost, and I thought it was pretty awesome what they did with the Mandrian.
@MickLoud, perfectly said! Thank you!

I am an Iron Man comics fan, but I am a movie buff first and foremost, and I thought it was pretty awesome what they did with the Mandrian.
12:54PM on 05/07/2013
Raimi changed the webshooters to organic because he thought no one would buy that a kid could make something like that himself. It wasn't "realistic". Marvel Studios basically says, "forget realism", yet they still manage to make the fantastic believable. Because they use their heads to sell it, and make it work. They do make changes, like The Mandarin, but they do that when they think they have a clever idea up their sleeve. There's a point, other than them being afraid we won't like it or
Raimi changed the webshooters to organic because he thought no one would buy that a kid could make something like that himself. It wasn't "realistic". Marvel Studios basically says, "forget realism", yet they still manage to make the fantastic believable. Because they use their heads to sell it, and make it work. They do make changes, like The Mandarin, but they do that when they think they have a clever idea up their sleeve. There's a point, other than them being afraid we won't like it or understand. Thinking outside of the box.
9:31AM on 05/07/2013
The Mandarin reveal worked for me because the Mandarin was a genius. He would never in my opinion be foolish enough to put his face on TV in those silly videos. Having the government chasing a figment of his imagination sounds much more like him.
The Mandarin reveal worked for me because the Mandarin was a genius. He would never in my opinion be foolish enough to put his face on TV in those silly videos. Having the government chasing a figment of his imagination sounds much more like him.
9:31AM on 05/07/2013
In all fairness to Iron Man 3, I really don't think the change is that big of a deal. In the context of the reality they created for the Iron Man films, not the Marvel Cinematic Universe just Iron Man, that twist with the Mandarin works. Granted in The Avengers they touched on the existence of alien races, etc. But transferring that to Iron Man would have been a major left turn in the franchise. By keeping the stories and characters grounded more in some kind of reality, they kept it on par
In all fairness to Iron Man 3, I really don't think the change is that big of a deal. In the context of the reality they created for the Iron Man films, not the Marvel Cinematic Universe just Iron Man, that twist with the Mandarin works. Granted in The Avengers they touched on the existence of alien races, etc. But transferring that to Iron Man would have been a major left turn in the franchise. By keeping the stories and characters grounded more in some kind of reality, they kept it on par with the previous Iron Man movies. So making the Mandarin into more of a evil technological genius rather than the classic Mandarin from the comics with the entire look and ten rings power, it was a bold step and it still works. It's failure isn't in the story put on screen for Iron Man 3, it's in people's personal opinion of what they wanted to see on screen.

I can get behind the comic purists who wanted to see the Mandarin from the comics put on screen. Frankly, I did too. And I thought that character could totally work in a post-Avengers Iron Man flick. The movie could have still worked without the twist, but they decided to throw it into the plot and didn't really ruin the overall effectiveness of the Iron Man story to date.

And to bring this back on point to the article. The changes in Iron Man 3 aren't really drastic changes to the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe that Feige and co. have created. Let's be honest, Mandarin is a character that exists primarily as a protagonist to Iron Man and is likely not a character that would have come back as a villain in a future Avengers comic. So I don't think that deviation from comic to screen will really have any kind of implication on future Marvel movies.
9:18AM on 05/07/2013

Simple Solution: put Bruce Timm in charge

The Warner Premiere/DC Universe animated movies have ranged from solid to stunning, and any of those writers and producers would create a great movie.
The Warner Premiere/DC Universe animated movies have ranged from solid to stunning, and any of those writers and producers would create a great movie.
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9:41AM on 05/07/2013
i would like that but i remember reading an article a while back that said he was offered the job of overseeing the live-action movies and he turned them down
i would like that but i remember reading an article a while back that said he was offered the job of overseeing the live-action movies and he turned them down
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9:45AM on 05/07/2013

Sure Kevin, like you have faith?

Where are the color in the costumes, a Hulk that can speak lines, a proper Mandarin. Just keep counting your money...
Where are the color in the costumes, a Hulk that can speak lines, a proper Mandarin. Just keep counting your money...
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12:45PM on 05/07/2013
Uhhhh. Hulk spoke in all of the movies. Color in the costumes is hardly relevant to the story or the characterization.
Uhhhh. Hulk spoke in all of the movies. Color in the costumes is hardly relevant to the story or the characterization.
10:02AM on 05/07/2013
"Man of Steel looks like it’s going to be awesome and obviously Dark Knight is awesome."

He didn't have to say this. He could have said "There's nothing I can tell DC. Their mvies simly aren't as good as ours" but, no, he came out and admitted that Warners can make awesome movies wih DC characters and I respect him for saying that.
"Man of Steel looks like it’s going to be awesome and obviously Dark Knight is awesome."

He didn't have to say this. He could have said "There's nothing I can tell DC. Their mvies simly aren't as good as ours" but, no, he came out and admitted that Warners can make awesome movies wih DC characters and I respect him for saying that.
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10:17AM on 05/07/2013

DC is just in a position where more of its movies fail than succeed.

For every Dark Knight there are two Green Lanterns. Marvel had this problem, but it was more so FOX or someone else who had the rights that messed them up (F4, Ghost Rider).

If DC got its act together, took its time and started fresh, they could pull off a victory similar to Marvel and its Avengers. But we will be getting the same shit DC has been putting out for a long time. It will be rushed, poorly directed and aimed towards kids to sell toys instead of adults to sell tickets.
For every Dark Knight there are two Green Lanterns. Marvel had this problem, but it was more so FOX or someone else who had the rights that messed them up (F4, Ghost Rider).

If DC got its act together, took its time and started fresh, they could pull off a victory similar to Marvel and its Avengers. But we will be getting the same shit DC has been putting out for a long time. It will be rushed, poorly directed and aimed towards kids to sell toys instead of adults to sell tickets.
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10:22AM on 05/07/2013
Good advice Feigie, alot of the nice things he said he didnt have too but did anyways. Lets all hope DC can pull through and give us some good films.
Good advice Feigie, alot of the nice things he said he didnt have too but did anyways. Lets all hope DC can pull through and give us some good films.
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10:34AM on 05/07/2013
I believed in Harvey Dent, and look how that turned out...
I believed in Harvey Dent, and look how that turned out...
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5:22PM on 05/07/2013
what he was a hero, murdered by the batman on the last night anyone saw him
what he was a hero, murdered by the batman on the last night anyone saw him
10:56AM on 05/07/2013

Advise for someone else

I think Kevin's advice was also meant for Bryan Singer. We've been seeing the possible mess that is coming from X-men first class 2 electric boogaloo with lots of character announcements but not much adherents to the actual story. I know marvel would like the X-Men franchise back from FOX before they destroy it. While X-Men 1&2 were fun and ok for what they were back in there day, it looks like Days is starting to become another X-men 3. Imagine what could have been if marvel had control and
I think Kevin's advice was also meant for Bryan Singer. We've been seeing the possible mess that is coming from X-men first class 2 electric boogaloo with lots of character announcements but not much adherents to the actual story. I know marvel would like the X-Men franchise back from FOX before they destroy it. While X-Men 1&2 were fun and ok for what they were back in there day, it looks like Days is starting to become another X-men 3. Imagine what could have been if marvel had control and was allowed to create its own phase1 of mutants.
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11:02AM on 05/07/2013
So his advice was to stick to the source material? And yet he completely trashed the source material. Yeah it is safe to say I wouldn't be listening to him anymore.
So his advice was to stick to the source material? And yet he completely trashed the source material. Yeah it is safe to say I wouldn't be listening to him anymore.
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11:33AM on 05/07/2013

Believing in the source material is WB's biggest weakness

The studio has own the DC characters for years and never gave the impression they were interested in the characters. They released Green Lantern because they had to do "something", not because they thought the film could be a success. Characters like Wonder Woman and The Flash are known by everybody, yet Groot and Rocket Racoon will make their first big screen appearance before them.
The studio has own the DC characters for years and never gave the impression they were interested in the characters. They released Green Lantern because they had to do "something", not because they thought the film could be a success. Characters like Wonder Woman and The Flash are known by everybody, yet Groot and Rocket Racoon will make their first big screen appearance before them.
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11:38AM on 05/07/2013

Best advise they could be given

WBs biggest problem is they are afraid to do that unless Nolan is behind the project, his Batman movies, while being their own stories, took so many great and iconic stuff from the comics, and Man of Steel looks like it will do the same thing, just to think WB had Joss Whedon lined up for Wonder Woman, they could have had him overseeing their properties and directing Justice League by now
WBs biggest problem is they are afraid to do that unless Nolan is behind the project, his Batman movies, while being their own stories, took so many great and iconic stuff from the comics, and Man of Steel looks like it will do the same thing, just to think WB had Joss Whedon lined up for Wonder Woman, they could have had him overseeing their properties and directing Justice League by now
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5:21PM on 05/07/2013
They did and they didn't, like I said they were their own story, but the characters and some elements of the story stayed true to the comics, like begins used to much from Batman Year One, Dark Knight combined a lot of comics, but Dent becoming Two-Face happened almost the same way, obviously the Joker was perfect, And Bane breaking Batmans back in Rises was legit takin right from the pages of the comics, he did a great job of telling his own story while staying true to what made the character
They did and they didn't, like I said they were their own story, but the characters and some elements of the story stayed true to the comics, like begins used to much from Batman Year One, Dark Knight combined a lot of comics, but Dent becoming Two-Face happened almost the same way, obviously the Joker was perfect, And Bane breaking Batmans back in Rises was legit takin right from the pages of the comics, he did a great job of telling his own story while staying true to what made the character great, which is what you HAVE to do to make these movies work, as much as we would all like the movies to follow the comic page for page we cant expect that. Thats something Marvel has done really well with their movies too and its why they make so much money, Man of Steel will be the next in line to do this and with any luck WB will learn thats the way to make their movies
12:42PM on 05/07/2013
I feel like Nolan's movies strayed pretty far from the comics.
I feel like Nolan's movies strayed pretty far from the comics.
12:12PM on 05/07/2013
I absolutely agree, it's kinda their loss with Whedon.
I absolutely agree, it's kinda their loss with Whedon.
12:30PM on 05/07/2013
Good advice ! Now if marvel would take their own advice. I'm looking at you iron patriot and mandarin from IM3 !! Marvel = hypocrites
Good advice ! Now if marvel would take their own advice. I'm looking at you iron patriot and mandarin from IM3 !! Marvel = hypocrites
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12:52PM on 05/07/2013
Good advice ! Now if marvel would take their own advice. I'm looking at you iron patriot and mandarin from IM3 !! Marvel = hypocrites
Good advice ! Now if marvel would take their own advice. I'm looking at you iron patriot and mandarin from IM3 !! Marvel = hypocrites
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12:54PM on 05/07/2013

What a hypocrite.

Coming from the same asshole who produced Iron Man 3; the same movie where the supposed main villain isn't even the main villain and NOTHING like how he's portrayed in the comics, or the 'source matetial'. Too funny.
Coming from the same asshole who produced Iron Man 3; the same movie where the supposed main villain isn't even the main villain and NOTHING like how he's portrayed in the comics, or the 'source matetial'. Too funny.
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1:02PM on 05/07/2013

He's not being a hypocit at all.

He's not saying "keep every single aspect of the comic exactly the same". What he's saying is to not shy away from the ridiculous nature of the characters and the story-lines.

Something the Dark Knight movies did almost to a fault. They removed all of the fantastical and comic book elements of the character's rogues gallery which, as much as I enjoy the movies, sucked some of the fun out. I can't give Marvel enough respect for sticking to their guns when it came to adapting their stories.
He's not saying "keep every single aspect of the comic exactly the same". What he's saying is to not shy away from the ridiculous nature of the characters and the story-lines.

Something the Dark Knight movies did almost to a fault. They removed all of the fantastical and comic book elements of the character's rogues gallery which, as much as I enjoy the movies, sucked some of the fun out. I can't give Marvel enough respect for sticking to their guns when it came to adapting their stories.
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3:36PM on 05/07/2013
You're my new hero!
You're my new hero!
1:40PM on 05/07/2013

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Harry over at AICN pointed out something that a lot of you IM3 haters missed: Mandarin is still who he is - there was just a lot of misdirection to pull the wool over your and Tony's eyes.

Stop and think about it: if Ben Kingsley's Mandarin was actually Trevor, why would our first in-person meeting of the character be by Killian and the TV crew cowering in fear of The Mandarin as he's trucked in? Why would Trevor be surrounded by gorilla bodyguards when he first shows up if he was just
Harry over at AICN pointed out something that a lot of you IM3 haters missed: Mandarin is still who he is - there was just a lot of misdirection to pull the wool over your and Tony's eyes.

Stop and think about it: if Ben Kingsley's Mandarin was actually Trevor, why would our first in-person meeting of the character be by Killian and the TV crew cowering in fear of The Mandarin as he's trucked in? Why would Trevor be surrounded by gorilla bodyguards when he first shows up if he was just some dipshit?

The misdirection actually started before Tony showed up in "Trevor's" bedroom: you think the Mandarin would take in a bunch of American hookers and be all like 'Hey! I'm the Mandarin - give my head, slut!' and then kill them later? No... an operator like the Mandarin wouldn't kill hookers because it would attract attention, so he would create a forgettable persona for the hooker's benefit - and Tony just stumbled into the middle of that charade.

Tony had a gun on "Trevor" so what was the Mandarin gonna do? Monologue? No... he played it cool and misdirected Tony so Tony and Rhodey would focus on Killian and his hot potatoes.

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10:10PM on 05/07/2013
As much as I understand the frustration of the fans, I think these are just theories made up by people in denial. Trevor isn't The Mandarin. Killian was, is, and always will be. That's just the version everyone's going to have to live with for the next 15 years or so (or until a reboot comes along, which won't be soon). I have no problem with that. In fact, if by some chance they reveal Trevor's actually Mandarin, I'd hate them for caving in. So he's The Mandarin, then he's not, then he is.
As much as I understand the frustration of the fans, I think these are just theories made up by people in denial. Trevor isn't The Mandarin. Killian was, is, and always will be. That's just the version everyone's going to have to live with for the next 15 years or so (or until a reboot comes along, which won't be soon). I have no problem with that. In fact, if by some chance they reveal Trevor's actually Mandarin, I'd hate them for caving in. So he's The Mandarin, then he's not, then he is. Would be kinda stupid.
3:10PM on 05/07/2013
I wish this were true however both the director and the producer have confirmed that Killian was indeed the real Mandarin.
I wish this were true however both the director and the producer have confirmed that Killian was indeed the real Mandarin.
2:10PM on 05/07/2013
I've felt the same way, would an actor just shoot a guy in the head and not flinch. It's also odd that Killian would use the symbol of the ten rings organization if there was no connection. I think there could be more down the line which would be a brilliant twist
I've felt the same way, would an actor just shoot a guy in the head and not flinch. It's also odd that Killian would use the symbol of the ten rings organization if there was no connection. I think there could be more down the line which would be a brilliant twist
3:40PM on 05/07/2013

Not Hypocritical

Feige's comments aren't at all hypocritical. They made changes that they thought would best fit their MCU, and still be seen as comic book like.

DC, time and again, seems to try to ignore those things, and it fails for them (with Nolan's Batman films excluded). If they don't, Justice League might work.
Feige's comments aren't at all hypocritical. They made changes that they thought would best fit their MCU, and still be seen as comic book like.

DC, time and again, seems to try to ignore those things, and it fails for them (with Nolan's Batman films excluded). If they don't, Justice League might work.
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3:56PM on 05/07/2013
AmazSpiderman1 - with regard to "Raimi changed the webshooters to organic because he thought no one would buy that a kid could make something like that himself. It wasn't "realistic"." ...I don't know about that but the organic shooters idea came from James Cameron's initial attempt at Spider-man back in the late 1980's and the idea remained when Raimi took over. However, I can't remember if the comment I read with regard to the scars further adding to Peter's outcast character came from the
AmazSpiderman1 - with regard to "Raimi changed the webshooters to organic because he thought no one would buy that a kid could make something like that himself. It wasn't "realistic"." ...I don't know about that but the organic shooters idea came from James Cameron's initial attempt at Spider-man back in the late 1980's and the idea remained when Raimi took over. However, I can't remember if the comment I read with regard to the scars further adding to Peter's outcast character came from the initial attempt or was something I read in the lead up to Raimi's first effort. Either way, it works and was a good change.
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4:02PM on 05/07/2013

Listen to Feige

So when they reboot Batman Joker can secretly be some dude named Jeff.
So when they reboot Batman Joker can secretly be some dude named Jeff.
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7:04PM on 05/07/2013

Dat Flash-Horse

In the picture at the top of this article, it looks like the Flash is on his hands and knees and that Wonder Woman is riding on top of him like he's a horse.
In the picture at the top of this article, it looks like the Flash is on his hands and knees and that Wonder Woman is riding on top of him like he's a horse.
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7:08PM on 05/07/2013

Dat Double-Post

I know for a fact that I only clicked 'submit reply' once because I am very cognizant of the fact that this site likes to double-post my posts, and I thought it was maybe because of double-clicking, yet it still fucking double-posted me.... *sigh*
I know for a fact that I only clicked 'submit reply' once because I am very cognizant of the fact that this site likes to double-post my posts, and I thought it was maybe because of double-clicking, yet it still fucking double-posted me.... *sigh*
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9:33PM on 05/07/2013
Mr. Feige needs to shut the hell up. I mean, this is the same guy who screwed up the Mandarin. What a waste...
Mr. Feige needs to shut the hell up. I mean, this is the same guy who screwed up the Mandarin. What a waste...
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10:53PM on 05/07/2013
Didn't screw anything up. Maybe you have to see Iron Man 3 again to understand how smart the movie is and WHY the Mandarin was played right. Now, would I have liked to have seen THE Mandarin from the comics? With the rings? Sure. But it the Marvel movie universe Mandarin works perfectly for that universe and the story that the Iron Man movies have told.
Didn't screw anything up. Maybe you have to see Iron Man 3 again to understand how smart the movie is and WHY the Mandarin was played right. Now, would I have liked to have seen THE Mandarin from the comics? With the rings? Sure. But it the Marvel movie universe Mandarin works perfectly for that universe and the story that the Iron Man movies have told.
10:20PM on 05/07/2013

IRON MAN 3 SPOILERS! --- IRON MAN 3 SPOILERS! --- IRON MAN 3 SPOILERS! ---

IRON MAN 3 SPOILERS! --- IRON MAN 3 SPOILERS! --- IRON MAN 3 SPOILERS! ---

I agree, Feige shouldn't be one to give advice about "staying true to the comics" after what happened with The Mandarin, but I also think people are missing the entire point of this movie. C'mon people, does everything need to be spelled out word for word?

Killian is The Mandarin. Always was, always will be. Every question you have about the Ten Rings and whatnot can be answered if you just put Killian at the core
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I agree, Feige shouldn't be one to give advice about "staying true to the comics" after what happened with The Mandarin, but I also think people are missing the entire point of this movie. C'mon people, does everything need to be spelled out word for word?

Killian is The Mandarin. Always was, always will be. Every question you have about the Ten Rings and whatnot can be answered if you just put Killian at the core of it all. He masterminded the Ten Rings. He manipulated Obadiah Stane, kidnapped Tony, gave Whiplash the tickets to Spain or the F1 or something, and created a custom-made terror threat to take the heat from the general public. Sure, it would have been cool if Kingsley was Mandarin, but he's not. And I'm fine with that because Pearce's Killian is equally formidable. He has been the villain since day one. He has been at Tony's throat since even before Iron Man was born. In a way, he MADE Iron Man. How awesome is that?

So yeah, maybe the twist was a major curveball, but it was ballsy and cool and it's not like they reduced The Mandarin to a joke. They reduced Trevor to a joke, Kingsley to a joke, but The Mandarin is still one powerful, fire-breathing, bad to the bone psychotic sonoffabitch. What more could you want?
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1:19AM on 05/08/2013
Yes the makers of the film already confirmed Killian is the Mandarin. However it was truly classless what they did to mock the character of the Mandarin from the comics with Ben Kingsley. And it is a slap in the face to Kingsley as well who is an amazing actor who could have easily pulled off the role as the trailers show.
Yes the makers of the film already confirmed Killian is the Mandarin. However it was truly classless what they did to mock the character of the Mandarin from the comics with Ben Kingsley. And it is a slap in the face to Kingsley as well who is an amazing actor who could have easily pulled off the role as the trailers show.
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