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UPDATED: Kevin Smith got a peek at the new Batsuit for Batman vs. Superman

Nov. 11, 2013by: Niki Stephens

UPDATED: According to a reader of Manofsteelfanpage.com who attended the podcast, the costume influence that was bleeped out was Jim Lee. If that's the truth then go me for getting that one right.

Most of our time talking about BATMAN VS SUPERMAN has been spent discussing supporting characters like Wonder Woman and most recently, Nightwing. I'm going to step out on a limb here and say that I think the movie should concentrate more on the two main characters and possibly a villain. I feel like sometimes we want to cram as many characters in because a comic movie is being made. We still don't know how much we will see either Wonder Woman or Nightwing in the upcoming film. To be fair, Wonder Woman is said to only show up as Diana. Again, this is all early so we will, or at least I will reserve judgement until I get the bigger picture.

Now that's out of the way, I thought you guys might be interested in what Kevin Smith had to say about the new Batsuit on his weekly podcast with co-host Ralph Garman "Hollywood Babble-On". Yes, he's seen it and seems pretty damn excited about it:

"I saw the costume, more than that I saw him [Ben Affleck] in the costume...I don't want to give anything away cause that is up to them and stuff, but I am going to say this...I instantly bear hugged him. You have not seen this costume in film before. Because every other movie has done this matrixy black armor thing...There wasn't a single nipple on this [frick]ing suit man. I think everyone is gonna be like 'Holy Shit!' We haven't been down this path before. Even the Hardest core "[frick] this movie" person will be like 'alright, I'm ready!'

Smith also mentioned what the suit was influenced by but said influence was bleeped out:

"It seemed like it was very [Redacted] Influenced."

Oops. Guess he was a little too excited about it. Which suit would please even the most hardcore fans? Is it the grey/blue suit? Could Frank Miller or Jim Lee be the influence behind the suit?

Give us your thoughts below.

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4:03PM on 11/12/2013
I did get excited over the idea of a Jim Lee style Batman suit, but then I remembered it would be Ben Affleck wearing it, and all excitement died. You can dress a turd in be best tuxedo there is, but in the end, it is still just a turd in a tuxedo.
I did get excited over the idea of a Jim Lee style Batman suit, but then I remembered it would be Ben Affleck wearing it, and all excitement died. You can dress a turd in be best tuxedo there is, but in the end, it is still just a turd in a tuxedo.
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10:45AM on 11/12/2013

Wait

So are they saying he's going from an armored suit to a non armored suit later? I mean since this is a more tried and weary Batman we're dealing with and therefore been around a while. And of course there weren't going to be nipples on it.
So are they saying he's going from an armored suit to a non armored suit later? I mean since this is a more tried and weary Batman we're dealing with and therefore been around a while. And of course there weren't going to be nipples on it.
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6:41PM on 11/12/2013
The quote was a little out of context. The nipple comment was in response to his co-host, Ralph Garman, making a joke about Bat-suits of the past.
The quote was a little out of context. The nipple comment was in response to his co-host, Ralph Garman, making a joke about Bat-suits of the past.
9:46AM on 11/12/2013
Just what I was hoping for!
Just what I was hoping for!
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8:20AM on 11/12/2013
You'd think he'd be constantly snagging his tights with those glove blades though...
You'd think he'd be constantly snagging his tights with those glove blades though...
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7:03AM on 11/12/2013

I'm sorry, Kevin who?

Seriously, loved Kevin Smith 15-20 years ago, but I can't imagine any kind of balanced opinion coming out of his mouth. He could've seen Ben Affleck covered in dog feces and he'd say "It's the best thing I've ever seen".
Seriously, loved Kevin Smith 15-20 years ago, but I can't imagine any kind of balanced opinion coming out of his mouth. He could've seen Ben Affleck covered in dog feces and he'd say "It's the best thing I've ever seen".
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5:19AM on 11/12/2013
So long as it's not the Batman: Brave and the Bold look.
So long as it's not the Batman: Brave and the Bold look.
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1:48AM on 11/12/2013

Unarmored

I trust Kevin Smith. If he bear hugged Batman and not his good friend, then its probably gonna be iconic. Armor selectively makes sense, reinforced gloves, elbows, knees, ankles, temples maybe throat. The full armor and rubber suits never made it believable to flank gunfire. Plus synthetics today are more organic than ever. The color scheme was probably solved before a prototype even was made. The Jim Lee look is the cut, with the cape being used to conceal shoulders and obscure profile. Simple
I trust Kevin Smith. If he bear hugged Batman and not his good friend, then its probably gonna be iconic. Armor selectively makes sense, reinforced gloves, elbows, knees, ankles, temples maybe throat. The full armor and rubber suits never made it believable to flank gunfire. Plus synthetics today are more organic than ever. The color scheme was probably solved before a prototype even was made. The Jim Lee look is the cut, with the cape being used to conceal shoulders and obscure profile. Simple black logo, functional soft belt. Very down to see that version.
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1:14AM on 11/12/2013

Arkham suit with Blue.

I'm betting it looks more like the Arkham suit with a Blue Cowl and no chonies on the outside because Synder hates the Chonies on the outside.
I'm betting it looks more like the Arkham suit with a Blue Cowl and no chonies on the outside because Synder hates the Chonies on the outside.
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7:03AM on 11/12/2013
What's a Chonie?
What's a Chonie?
10:09PM on 11/11/2013
Looking forward to seeing any production pics for this costume. I remember there were a lot of mixed reactions for the Joker's grunge look and Heath Ledger's casting so I'll reserve judgement until a teaser for the teaser trailer, teaser trailer or plain ol' trailer comes out.
Looking forward to seeing any production pics for this costume. I remember there were a lot of mixed reactions for the Joker's grunge look and Heath Ledger's casting so I'll reserve judgement until a teaser for the teaser trailer, teaser trailer or plain ol' trailer comes out.
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9:50PM on 11/11/2013
it should be different, with more grey, more like a battle-scarred military armor. the form-hugging all black look is simply over used, and it's strangely one of the unrealistic elements in a supposedly realistic superhero movie in dark knight. and never believe a gushing fanboy.
it should be different, with more grey, more like a battle-scarred military armor. the form-hugging all black look is simply over used, and it's strangely one of the unrealistic elements in a supposedly realistic superhero movie in dark knight. and never believe a gushing fanboy.
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9:31PM on 11/11/2013

If they're doing the Jim lee look

Then the costume is going to look weird on Ben. That's just too fucking gray. It's a cool costume but i don't know how that will transpire to film.
Then the costume is going to look weird on Ben. That's just too fucking gray. It's a cool costume but i don't know how that will transpire to film.
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9:30PM on 11/11/2013

If they're doing the Jim lee look

Then the costume is going to look weird on Ben. That's just too fucking gray. It's a cool costume but i don't know how that will transpire to film.
Then the costume is going to look weird on Ben. That's just too fucking gray. It's a cool costume but i don't know how that will transpire to film.
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9:29PM on 11/11/2013

If they're doing the Jim lee look

Then the costume is going to look weird on Ben. That's just too fucking gray. It's a cool costume but i don't know how that will transpire to film.
Then the costume is going to look weird on Ben. That's just too fucking gray. It's a cool costume but i don't know how that will transpire to film.
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9:04PM on 11/11/2013

Heh, Kevin Smith.

Cool guy and all, but let's not forget that some of his ideas for superhero movies have been absolute shit. If Smith had his way, The Phantom would be "one of the finest superhero movies of all time" just because they "followed source material" and stuck to the goofy suit. I'm still not buying Affleck as Batman so until I see some real evidence, like a trailer, I'm going to be skeptical.
Cool guy and all, but let's not forget that some of his ideas for superhero movies have been absolute shit. If Smith had his way, The Phantom would be "one of the finest superhero movies of all time" just because they "followed source material" and stuck to the goofy suit. I'm still not buying Affleck as Batman so until I see some real evidence, like a trailer, I'm going to be skeptical.
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8:35PM on 11/11/2013
My favourite look for Batman is his most recent: that in Batman: Arkham Origins. [link]
My favourite look for Batman is his most recent: that in Batman: Arkham Origins. [link]
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8:31PM on 11/11/2013

remember

when snyder was trying to make superman more realistic....looks like he's doing a 180 here. armor is more realistic for a human.
when snyder was trying to make superman more realistic....looks like he's doing a 180 here. armor is more realistic for a human.
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12:46AM on 11/12/2013
Yes, tactile body armor is infinitely more realistic and practical, not the sculpted foam rubber you are told is rigid plate body armor. It's sad so many so-called Batman fans want to turn Bruce Wayne into Iron Man.
Yes, tactile body armor is infinitely more realistic and practical, not the sculpted foam rubber you are told is rigid plate body armor. It's sad so many so-called Batman fans want to turn Bruce Wayne into Iron Man.
8:24PM on 11/11/2013

How could you not include a rendition of Lee's Batman with this update???

How could you not include a rendition of Lee's Batman with this update??? I can look it up, hell, I don;t need to, but just saying, show a little effort here.
How could you not include a rendition of Lee's Batman with this update??? I can look it up, hell, I don;t need to, but just saying, show a little effort here.
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8:11PM on 11/11/2013
If the update is indeed true, then I am all for it. A Batsuit that is fresh, new, and exciting.
If the update is indeed true, then I am all for it. A Batsuit that is fresh, new, and exciting.
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8:23PM on 11/11/2013
yes very bad ass!!
yes very bad ass!!
7:57PM on 11/11/2013

I'm thinking....

It's going to be something like this... [link]
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It's going to be something like this... [link]
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6:52PM on 11/11/2013

Actually

It was Sara Lee. Everybody knows the real title. Batman vs. Superman: Iron Chef.
It was Sara Lee. Everybody knows the real title. Batman vs. Superman: Iron Chef.
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6:38PM on 11/11/2013
Since when has Smith not sucked Affleck's dick? Smith basically lives his life vicariously through Affleck. Smith actually lives in Affleck's old house, and claims to always wonder what it was like for Affleck and Jennifer Lopez to have sex in the house he now lives in. Smith is obsessed with him.
Since when has Smith not sucked Affleck's dick? Smith basically lives his life vicariously through Affleck. Smith actually lives in Affleck's old house, and claims to always wonder what it was like for Affleck and Jennifer Lopez to have sex in the house he now lives in. Smith is obsessed with him.
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7:57PM on 11/11/2013
I also wonder what its like to have sex with Jlo
I also wonder what its like to have sex with Jlo
8:11PM on 11/11/2013
I think someone is jealous of their bromance.
I think someone is jealous of their bromance.
6:21PM on 11/11/2013
I think that it will be a costume more along the lines of what Superman has rather than some kind of armor as in the previous movies.
I think that it will be a costume more along the lines of what Superman has rather than some kind of armor as in the previous movies.
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5:51PM on 11/11/2013

Like the comic

I want to see a grey with black /blue suit with fabric over the armor not armor over fabric/leather. The Arkham video game series is how this & the next Batman films should look & 'feel'.
I want to see a grey with black /blue suit with fabric over the armor not armor over fabric/leather. The Arkham video game series is how this & the next Batman films should look & 'feel'.
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5:41PM on 11/11/2013

Guy who was at the podcast recording says that what was bleeped out is ...

"It seemed like it was very Jim Lee influenced."

Which further points to my thought that this Batman is going to have a suit that's actually fabric, no latex, no armor. No molded muscles, we're getting some more 'man' with our Batman.
"It seemed like it was very Jim Lee influenced."

Which further points to my thought that this Batman is going to have a suit that's actually fabric, no latex, no armor. No molded muscles, we're getting some more 'man' with our Batman.
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7:18PM on 11/11/2013
Unless it's a New 52 Jim Lee design. Which basically look like fabric but with detail lines that make it look like armor plating, which actually doesn't make much sense.
Unless it's a New 52 Jim Lee design. Which basically look like fabric but with detail lines that make it look like armor plating, which actually doesn't make much sense.
7:35PM on 11/11/2013
Well Kev had said it wasn't armory so I assumed it was classic, not New 52.
Well Kev had said it wasn't armory so I assumed it was classic, not New 52.
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5:24PM on 11/11/2013

HELP HELP!!! QUESTIONS!!! QUESTIONS!!!

Cool. I love the more blue and or grey, but the only thing is in live-action film, I feel like Bats needs that armor to do what he does without getting hurt. It's one of the best things Nolans film's did, and it might make it harder to believe him fighting Sups or anyone with a costume that looks more like Spideys or Supes. We'll see...
So I know a little ab WW, but I thought she just was princess Diana. Can someone help me understand bc when I see the name written in articles like this, the
Cool. I love the more blue and or grey, but the only thing is in live-action film, I feel like Bats needs that armor to do what he does without getting hurt. It's one of the best things Nolans film's did, and it might make it harder to believe him fighting Sups or anyone with a costume that looks more like Spideys or Supes. We'll see...
So I know a little ab WW, but I thought she just was princess Diana. Can someone help me understand bc when I see the name written in articles like this, the context makes me think that WW is like Shazaam and Diana has to do whatever to completely change into another being, which is WW, like the kid Billy (I think that's that character, or it is in some of the time). Or is that just her alter ego? And as her alter ego, how does she explain herself as a princess? Does she say that to an embassy type of place, or what? That she's the princess of a place called Amazon, a place that no one at the embassy has heard of? How does that character work???
Also, did anyone watch the man of steel thing with Kevin Smith this weekend? Was any other interesting info given ab batman vs supes, or man of steel trivia?
Thanks if you were able to help...
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5:12PM on 11/11/2013
spandex or gtfo
spandex or gtfo
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4:27PM on 11/11/2013
10 bucks says that the suit will resemble the Frank Miller take from Dark Knight Returns. It would explain, in a way, why Smith thinks the suit is very Adam West influenced--both use grey as a base colour rather than black.
10 bucks says that the suit will resemble the Frank Miller take from Dark Knight Returns. It would explain, in a way, why Smith thinks the suit is very Adam West influenced--both use grey as a base colour rather than black.
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3:47PM on 11/11/2013
I really hope he isn't saying that because he's Ben's best friend and all.
I really hope he isn't saying that because he's Ben's best friend and all.
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5:25PM on 11/11/2013
It's why he actually said Daredevil is good . . .
It's why he actually said Daredevil is good . . .
3:31PM on 11/11/2013

Kevin Smith is the most unreliable bullshitter in Hollywood

He said the same shit about Daredevil. Before Daredevil was released Smith blogged that he was "high on Daredevil" and how Affleck delivered bar none the best performance of a superhero, and compared Affleck's Daredevil performance to Christopher Revee's Superman performance. And he claimed that Daredevil is "The best comic book movie we've seen since... maybe THE ROCKETEER." - link to Smith's own words - [link]
He said the same shit about Daredevil. Before Daredevil was released Smith blogged that he was "high on Daredevil" and how Affleck delivered bar none the best performance of a superhero, and compared Affleck's Daredevil performance to Christopher Revee's Superman performance. And he claimed that Daredevil is "The best comic book movie we've seen since... maybe THE ROCKETEER." - link to Smith's own words - [link]
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5:27PM on 11/11/2013
I agree. Nothing makes this guy any more knowledgeable about comics & what makes the film adaptations work than 99.9% of the fanboys on sites like this.

Now prepare to get 6 million thumb downs from the sheep . . .
I agree. Nothing makes this guy any more knowledgeable about comics & what makes the film adaptations work than 99.9% of the fanboys on sites like this.

Now prepare to get 6 million thumb downs from the sheep . . .
3:20PM on 11/11/2013
For the record, there hasn't been a nipple on a batsuit in almost 10 years. So...
For the record, there hasn't been a nipple on a batsuit in almost 10 years. So...
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1:50PM on 11/11/2013
I like the Rocksteady Arkham suits. They're closest to the comics, including The Dark Knight Returns, but with more practicality.
I like the Rocksteady Arkham suits. They're closest to the comics, including The Dark Knight Returns, but with more practicality.
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3:49PM on 11/11/2013
The Arkham storylines and the depiction of the Batverse is probably my favorite of all depictions .
The Arkham storylines and the depiction of the Batverse is probably my favorite of all depictions .
1:46PM on 11/11/2013

I heard it before the bleep

I heard it before they censored it...
He said, "It seemed like it was very Adam West Influenced."
No joke.
I heard it before they censored it...
He said, "It seemed like it was very Adam West Influenced."
No joke.
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1:44PM on 11/11/2013

I think you're right, Grey and Blue, but they will make it tactical also

I think you're right, Grey and Blue, but they will make it tactical also
I think you're right, Grey and Blue, but they will make it tactical also
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1:06PM on 11/11/2013

Gotham by gaslight

Would be amazing!
Would be amazing!
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8:55PM on 11/11/2013
That would be really cool! Did you read the Batman Elseworlds Holy Terror? It won't ever be made into a film since it's pretty disturbing and controversial but what a graphic novel!!!
That would be really cool! Did you read the Batman Elseworlds Holy Terror? It won't ever be made into a film since it's pretty disturbing and controversial but what a graphic novel!!!
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12:52PM on 11/11/2013
Not saying Captain America's suit in Avengers was cool looking. But I always thought, if they could make that costume workable, than there's no reason they can't make a version of the Gray/Blue or Gray/Black suit for Batman on screen.

Personally, I think they're going to go with the suit from the Nu52 comics. All gray with black cowl, gloves, boots, and cape. And just the black Bat on his chest - no yellow insignia. That would be badass to see on screen.
Not saying Captain America's suit in Avengers was cool looking. But I always thought, if they could make that costume workable, than there's no reason they can't make a version of the Gray/Blue or Gray/Black suit for Batman on screen.

Personally, I think they're going to go with the suit from the Nu52 comics. All gray with black cowl, gloves, boots, and cape. And just the black Bat on his chest - no yellow insignia. That would be badass to see on screen.
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12:58PM on 11/11/2013
I wish they could make the grey and blue work, it would be cool if they could at least show it on display in the bat cave
I wish they could make the grey and blue work, it would be cool if they could at least show it on display in the bat cave
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12:50PM on 11/11/2013

influence is the... VIDEO GAME?!

if i were redesigning the suit, i'd probably look at the Arkham series video game.
[link]
if i were redesigning the suit, i'd probably look at the Arkham series video game.
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12:42PM on 11/11/2013
I'm hoping it looks simpler. Like in the animated series or Year One.

Also would love to see him suit up in the armor from the end of Dark Knight Returns.
I'm hoping it looks simpler. Like in the animated series or Year One.

Also would love to see him suit up in the armor from the end of Dark Knight Returns.
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12:42PM on 11/11/2013

Hmm

Please keep KS away from this movie! Please!
Please keep KS away from this movie! Please!
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12:20PM on 11/11/2013

Furry option?

I thought the best suits were that from Batman Returns with Keaton and then Begins with Bale.
I wonder if they have gone with the furry option for Batman vs Superman as they said its a path they haven't gone down before.
I thought the best suits were that from Batman Returns with Keaton and then Begins with Bale.
I wonder if they have gone with the furry option for Batman vs Superman as they said its a path they haven't gone down before.
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3:08PM on 11/11/2013
Who the hell ever talked about a "furry" costume?
Who the hell ever talked about a "furry" costume?
12:20PM on 11/11/2013
To be fair there weren't any nipples on any of the Nolan's Bat-suit. And weren't Grey and blue actually the supplements to the colour black in the comics in the old days.
To be fair there weren't any nipples on any of the Nolan's Bat-suit. And weren't Grey and blue actually the supplements to the colour black in the comics in the old days.
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12:23PM on 11/11/2013
new batsuit could be similar to the one in this image..I mean Superman's pretty much like the one in Man of Steel

[link]
new batsuit could be similar to the one in this image..I mean Superman's pretty much like the one in Man of Steel

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12:16PM on 11/11/2013
The costume from Batman Noel would be great.
The costume from Batman Noel would be great.
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12:11PM on 11/11/2013

Smith is babbling bullshit again.

"There wasn't a single nipple on this [frick]ing suit man. I think everyone is gonna be like 'Holy Shit!' We haven't been down this path before" -- HUH?! That's what people said after Batman Begins.
"There wasn't a single nipple on this [frick]ing suit man. I think everyone is gonna be like 'Holy Shit!' We haven't been down this path before" -- HUH?! That's what people said after Batman Begins.
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12:04PM on 11/11/2013
Double post . . .
Double post . . .
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11:47AM on 11/11/2013
I agree with browncoat7981. It's got to be Arkham Origins suit or something along the line of Gray Batsuit instead of All Black suit. Extra tidbit: Batsuit from Batman Returns, along with pre Bat-Pod bike, The Batmissile.
I agree with browncoat7981. It's got to be Arkham Origins suit or something along the line of Gray Batsuit instead of All Black suit. Extra tidbit: Batsuit from Batman Returns, along with pre Bat-Pod bike, The Batmissile.
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11:44AM on 11/11/2013
It would be nice to see a totally different take on the costume. The black has been done way to much. Fingers crossed they don't mess it up, but I trust Kevin being such a Batgeek it will be great.
It would be nice to see a totally different take on the costume. The black has been done way to much. Fingers crossed they don't mess it up, but I trust Kevin being such a Batgeek it will be great.
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11:16AM on 11/11/2013
I hope that its close to the Arkham Origins suit. As big of a Batman nerd as Kevin Smith is, I trust his opinion on this for the most part.
I hope that its close to the Arkham Origins suit. As big of a Batman nerd as Kevin Smith is, I trust his opinion on this for the most part.
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11:15AM on 11/11/2013
After what Snyder and the crew did with Superman's awesome new suit, I'm excited to see what they have in store for Batman.
After what Snyder and the crew did with Superman's awesome new suit, I'm excited to see what they have in store for Batman.
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11:13AM on 11/11/2013

That will work...

I never got the hate for Affleck playing him to begin with, he has the size and stature, the jawline and can do brooding and aloof. As for the suit, my thoughts are these: it will be two toned - most likely black and grey-will probably still have the make up around the eyes and will probably go for the 52 look, with a more wetsuit look than sculpted armor.
I never got the hate for Affleck playing him to begin with, he has the size and stature, the jawline and can do brooding and aloof. As for the suit, my thoughts are these: it will be two toned - most likely black and grey-will probably still have the make up around the eyes and will probably go for the 52 look, with a more wetsuit look than sculpted armor.
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11:13AM on 11/11/2013
If Affleck is wearing the blue and grey suit, then logically he has to dance... Remember the Batusi?
If Affleck is wearing the blue and grey suit, then logically he has to dance... Remember the Batusi?
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11:10AM on 11/11/2013
Off course Smith is Affleck's bong buddy, so he might be a little biased....
Off course Smith is Affleck's bong buddy, so he might be a little biased....
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11:04AM on 11/11/2013
I hope they use the blue and grey Batman suit. That would be badass.
I hope they use the blue and grey Batman suit. That would be badass.
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1:07PM on 11/11/2013
Showing off your comic book knowledge here!
Showing off your comic book knowledge here!
11:00AM on 11/11/2013

Great news

Maybe Hollywood is going to give us a dark grey/cobalt blue suit that is cloth looking, and not anymore black rubber sculptures.
Maybe Hollywood is going to give us a dark grey/cobalt blue suit that is cloth looking, and not anymore black rubber sculptures.
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10:59AM on 11/11/2013

The Batsuit from Batman Returns...

Still one of the best.
Still one of the best.
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10:59AM on 11/11/2013
Since Snyder's other comic films suits have been very faithful to the comics, I am thinking the New 52 suit with the Arkham games type armor. That'd be sweet as hell.
Since Snyder's other comic films suits have been very faithful to the comics, I am thinking the New 52 suit with the Arkham games type armor. That'd be sweet as hell.
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10:56AM on 11/11/2013
They're bringing back Adam West's outfit! Hoo-rah!
They're bringing back Adam West's outfit! Hoo-rah!
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10:55AM on 11/11/2013
I didn't expect that he would say otherwise
I didn't expect that he would say otherwise
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1:28PM on 11/11/2013
Dude who is that in your avatar pic?
Dude who is that in your avatar pic?
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