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Marvel Executive Jeph Loeb talks Punisher spinoff, Marvel renewels & awards

02.23.2016

It's no secret that Daredevil and Jessica Jones have won over Marvel and TV fans alike, and even before the second season of Daredevil has hit, there's been a lot of talk about Jon Bernthal's Punisher getting a spinoff. By all accounts, the popularity of the character calls for it, but Marvel Television's Executive Vice President Jeph Loeb is taking things one step at a time. He recently spoke with Digital Spy regarding a Punisher show, as well as renewels and the lack of award recognition for Marvel shows.

Jeph Loeb on a Punisher spinoff:

I think that's something that people are speculating on, as opposed to something that's actually happening. It's certainly our hope that any of our characters will be embraced and that people want to see more of them.

Regarding the lack of awards for Marvel shows:

What we're really trying to do is to tell the best stories that we can. For us, the greatest award was when Netflix called and said, 'We'd like to do another season with you'. When they announced that Jessica Jones was getting a second season, every single report said, 'It should come as a surprise to no one that Jessica Jones has received a second season order'. I'm the guy going, 'Well, it was a surprise to me!'

It isn't a given in television. The fact that we get to continue telling stories with these characters speaks a lot about the quality of the storytelling and the acting and the writing. We are telling the best stories that we can at Netflix, and they seem to be responding to it.

I'm glad to hear that they're not jumping the gun over at Marvel when it comes to spinoff shows. The Punisher has some promise, but when you think about it, have we ever seen a live-action adaptation that did the character justice? I know there are fans out there for Thomas Jane and his trusty fire hydrant, but for me that answer is unequivocally, "No." Let's see how season 2 of Daredevil turns out and then start signing petitions, eh?

Season 2 of Daredevil will hit Netflix on March 18, 2016.

Source: Digital Spy

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11:08AM on 02/24/2016

Not nit picking, but

"renewals" ?
"renewals" ?
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7:58PM on 02/23/2016
If The Punisher solo series can be as good as Daredevil solo series, I'm all for it.
If The Punisher solo series can be as good as Daredevil solo series, I'm all for it.
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7:12PM on 02/23/2016
At this point, the MCU seems to get far more right than it does wrong whatever route it brings it's characters through. Whoever came up with or agreed to go the Netflix route should be given a medal...the kind given to the guy who decided to go with the RDJ casting or the Winter Soldier movie. Really good stuff. Jon Bernthal was a fantastic choice...and if the trailer showed us anything, it's that this Punisher will be delivering some very bad ass lines. Seriously, if he doesn't knock it
At this point, the MCU seems to get far more right than it does wrong whatever route it brings it's characters through. Whoever came up with or agreed to go the Netflix route should be given a medal...the kind given to the guy who decided to go with the RDJ casting or the Winter Soldier movie. Really good stuff. Jon Bernthal was a fantastic choice...and if the trailer showed us anything, it's that this Punisher will be delivering some very bad ass lines. Seriously, if he doesn't knock it out of the park...I'll be as disappointed as I was when I came out of viewing the Man of Steel.

As for a spin off series, it looks like Punisher is getting a pretty large slice of the action this season - far more than Luke Cage in JJ, for example. If so, does he really need a spin off show? The Marvel people working on the Netflix shows clearly seem to have a level head about it...and the manner in which they're treating the Netflix projects is nothing short of great.

On the Jane Punisher movie, only seen it the once. I don't recall enjoying it though will admit that it had a really great start with the family massacre. Too bad it wasn't like Man on Fire which came out the same year...or the Punisher short with Jane which had me hoping he could get to reprise the role should Marvel give us a MCU Punisher.
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5:18PM on 02/23/2016
A separate series for Punisher might be a tall order, especially with Iron Fist and Defenders already getting delayed by the success of Daredevil & Jessica Jones.

I think a solo special could work. Like what Netflix did for the Marco Polo series.
A separate series for Punisher might be a tall order, especially with Iron Fist and Defenders already getting delayed by the success of Daredevil & Jessica Jones.

I think a solo special could work. Like what Netflix did for the Marco Polo series.
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3:31PM on 02/23/2016
Punisher is tricky to do as a solo project. I read people's comments on here all the time about a Punisher project needs to be really violent (as per the comics). The issue is that Marvel, now owned by Disney, isn't really in a position to go THAT violent with the character. Daredevil season 1 was really pushing the boundary for violence in a Marvel property. If people are fine with that level of violence from the Punisher, then a solo series could work. But if people are expecting MORE
Punisher is tricky to do as a solo project. I read people's comments on here all the time about a Punisher project needs to be really violent (as per the comics). The issue is that Marvel, now owned by Disney, isn't really in a position to go THAT violent with the character. Daredevil season 1 was really pushing the boundary for violence in a Marvel property. If people are fine with that level of violence from the Punisher, then a solo series could work. But if people are expecting MORE violence than that, I don't think Marvel/Disney can get on board with that, it's more of a branding thing at that point. I know it sucks, but that's just the reality of it.

With that said, I like that Marvel is not jumping at every chance to spinoff each character they have in every series. Hopefully Punisher ends up being a good enough character that they want to do a spinoff. Which I think could work post-Defenders. If they're kind of limited in how many series they can bring to Netflix, say only 4 series. Then they can combine Iron Fist and Luke Cage into one series and give us Heroes for Hire and replace the vacant series with a Punisher spinoff - just a thought.
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3:28PM on 02/23/2016
I'm not going to lie, the Thomas Jane Punisher was pretty damn good. It had some shortfalls but it told the story very well. The change from killing Frank Castle and his wife and kid to killing the entire living bloodline was crazy and good. Also, I enjoyed all the moments with Roy Schneider, RIP.

I'm sure Jon Barnthal will do an amazing job with the character and I hope it is a dark and gritty as Daredevil. I think it should still have the killing tone like in the Thomas Jane feature and
I'm not going to lie, the Thomas Jane Punisher was pretty damn good. It had some shortfalls but it told the story very well. The change from killing Frank Castle and his wife and kid to killing the entire living bloodline was crazy and good. Also, I enjoyed all the moments with Roy Schneider, RIP.

I'm sure Jon Barnthal will do an amazing job with the character and I hope it is a dark and gritty as Daredevil. I think it should still have the killing tone like in the Thomas Jane feature and not go overboard like the Punisher Warzone movie.

Plus... I'm waiting to count how many times Jon Barnthal runs his hands over his head like in The Walking Dead.
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3:46PM on 02/23/2016
I agree with everything you said!
I agree with everything you said!
5:41PM on 02/23/2016
I agree with everything you said too except its Roy Scheider not Schneider.
I agree with everything you said too except its Roy Scheider not Schneider.
5:54PM on 02/23/2016
Agree too. I was really hoping that Marvel would have given Thomas Jane another shot at the character, but I'm more than happy with Bernthal donning the skull shirt in this new interpretation. It just sucks we never got a sequel with Jane and instead got that shitty War Zone film.
Agree too. I was really hoping that Marvel would have given Thomas Jane another shot at the character, but I'm more than happy with Bernthal donning the skull shirt in this new interpretation. It just sucks we never got a sequel with Jane and instead got that shitty War Zone film.
7:58PM on 02/23/2016
Thomas Jane Punisher is a really good Punisher movie. The best one, perhaps. It has that 70s B movie feels and looks to it. Love every action scene, especially Punisher vs The Russian.
Thomas Jane Punisher is a really good Punisher movie. The best one, perhaps. It has that 70s B movie feels and looks to it. Love every action scene, especially Punisher vs The Russian.
3:18PM on 02/23/2016
Daredevil was much more violent than I thought it was going to be for Marvel standards; so I'm really excited to see if and when Punisher gets his own series, how explicit and violent the action will be.
Daredevil was much more violent than I thought it was going to be for Marvel standards; so I'm really excited to see if and when Punisher gets his own series, how explicit and violent the action will be.
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