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Marvel President Kevin Feige sees a future where we don't need to redo origin stories

Apr. 27, 2012by: Alejandro Stepenberg

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Making a movie can often take a long time comparatively, especially for the star actor(s) - look at the schedule for IRON MAN 3. The shoot is about to begin in May and will run through the Summer into September, and that isn't even counting the energy and time it took Robert Downey Jr. to train before the shoot or the energy and time it will take for his promotional duties as the release date draws closer. 

It's a bit of a "first world problem," I know, but the point is that Downey Jr. surely has plenty of other projects on which he would no doubt like to spend his energy and time.  So he won't be wearing the armor forever, and as with every popular character (especially superheroes) the question then becomes: to reboot, or not to reboot?

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So when President of Marvel Studios Kevin Feige was asked about just what Marvel might be planning to do when Downey Jr. eventually bows out of the role (perhaps after AVENGERS 2?), he revealed this intriguing line of thinking: "I think Bond is a good example. Let’s put it this way: I hope Downey makes a lot of movies for us as Stark. If and when he doesn’t, and I’m still here making these movies, we don’t take him to Afghanistan and have him wounded again. I think we James Bond it."

Which to me is really the way superhero projects should start going.  Unless a drastically different and new vision can be brought to a hero's origin story which genuinely challenges public perception of who this character is (which is what THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN is at least trying to do), I say let's hear it once and then leave it be.  There are just so many characters and story arcs that remain untapped because of all the time spent rehashing a story we fundamentally already know. 

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But what do you think? Can the "Bond method" really be applied to superheroes, with a new actor stepping in to take up the story where it was left off?"

Extra Tidbit: As an actor I do understand why it helps to be with a character through their whole arc, but as an audience member I think that some properties would work just fine with the story being continued by a different actor.
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2:34PM on 04/27/2012

Like when a comic book gets a new creative team

the characters don't look quite the same as before, but they ARE the characters. We don't get a rehash of the origin at the start of each arc.
the characters don't look quite the same as before, but they ARE the characters. We don't get a rehash of the origin at the start of each arc.
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2:07PM on 04/27/2012

YES!

It's about time someone in the business is saying what many fans have been saying for years. Don't keep making origin stories over and over just because the first film was a dud such as FF and Punisher, and now Spider-man. C'mon, he was bit by a radioactive spider, he got powers, now lets move one. I am very tired of the origin stories and I WILL NOT see another origin story in film if it's already been done.
It's about time someone in the business is saying what many fans have been saying for years. Don't keep making origin stories over and over just because the first film was a dud such as FF and Punisher, and now Spider-man. C'mon, he was bit by a radioactive spider, he got powers, now lets move one. I am very tired of the origin stories and I WILL NOT see another origin story in film if it's already been done.
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1:58PM on 04/27/2012
I've been saying this for years.
I've been saying this for years.
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5:56PM on 04/27/2012
They already sort of did "the bond method" with the Hulk snd Incredible Hulk. In my eyes that worked great!
They already sort of did "the bond method" with the Hulk snd Incredible Hulk. In my eyes that worked great!
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6:09PM on 04/27/2012
It's about fucking time they 'thought' of this solution.
It's about fucking time they 'thought' of this solution.
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2:18PM on 04/27/2012

Completely agree.

HOWEVER... When (eventually) the rights to Spider-man, X-men, Daredevil, Fantastic 4, Silver Surfer, etc, etc, get back to Marvel, those franchises should reboot and start fresh within the MCU canon. I don't want Marvel to try and continue these tainted and tarnished franchises from Sony, Fox, and the like. I will say though, given that Feige wants the MCU to stay the same forever, this adds extra pressure to get every single thing exactly right the first and only time (which they should!)
HOWEVER... When (eventually) the rights to Spider-man, X-men, Daredevil, Fantastic 4, Silver Surfer, etc, etc, get back to Marvel, those franchises should reboot and start fresh within the MCU canon. I don't want Marvel to try and continue these tainted and tarnished franchises from Sony, Fox, and the like. I will say though, given that Feige wants the MCU to stay the same forever, this adds extra pressure to get every single thing exactly right the first and only time (which they should!)
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3:14AM on 04/28/2012
I respectfully disagree. I don't want to see Marvel redo the Spiderman, X-Men, Daredevil and Fantastic Four movies. Obviously roles would have to be recast but I would much rather see Spiderman vs the Vulture, the X-Men vs. Apocalypse, Daredevil vs the Owl or the Fantastic Four in the Negative Zone than to see their origin stories rehashed.
I respectfully disagree. I don't want to see Marvel redo the Spiderman, X-Men, Daredevil and Fantastic Four movies. Obviously roles would have to be recast but I would much rather see Spiderman vs the Vulture, the X-Men vs. Apocalypse, Daredevil vs the Owl or the Fantastic Four in the Negative Zone than to see their origin stories rehashed.
2:28PM on 04/27/2012
Wow, this was kind of/one of the points made by the last C'mon Hollywood, at least Marvel listened. As both a film and comics fan I've wanted this for years and never understood why I had to see the origin of a character again just because someone else is playing them. The only time a revisit to the origin worked was Batman Begins, and as great as that movie is it was a total bore compared to The Dark Knight. I wish The Incredible Hulk with Ed Norton was a bigger hit because I thought showing
Wow, this was kind of/one of the points made by the last C'mon Hollywood, at least Marvel listened. As both a film and comics fan I've wanted this for years and never understood why I had to see the origin of a character again just because someone else is playing them. The only time a revisit to the origin worked was Batman Begins, and as great as that movie is it was a total bore compared to The Dark Knight. I wish The Incredible Hulk with Ed Norton was a bigger hit because I thought showing the origin story in the opening credits was inspired.
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3:09PM on 04/27/2012
With Burton's Batman it wasn't that much of an origin. He'd been active for a short while. Basically it was just a reveal to him that Napier killed his parents.
With Burton's Batman it wasn't that much of an origin. He'd been active for a short while. Basically it was just a reveal to him that Napier killed his parents.
4:20PM on 04/27/2012

Agree

Let's do it!
Let's do it!
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2:18PM on 04/27/2012
I'm fine with it
I'm fine with it
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5:11PM on 04/27/2012

FINALLY!

Someone who gets it. I applaud Feige. I only wish that I could post up many gifs of people applauding.
Someone who gets it. I applaud Feige. I only wish that I could post up many gifs of people applauding.
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7:31PM on 04/27/2012
Some heroes don't need it. Some films have killed villains and destroyed love interests. I dont feel this way, but a ton of the audience wants to see common things they know from the hero and see them on screen. Not necessarily new characters. Its tricky, but totally possible.
Some heroes don't need it. Some films have killed villains and destroyed love interests. I dont feel this way, but a ton of the audience wants to see common things they know from the hero and see them on screen. Not necessarily new characters. Its tricky, but totally possible.
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6:11PM on 04/27/2012
Hell fucking yes.
Hell fucking yes.
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2:20PM on 04/28/2012
so 17 years after Batman got recast, someone has the idea this could apply to other superheroes as well. That's so ingenious!
so 17 years after Batman got recast, someone has the idea this could apply to other superheroes as well. That's so ingenious!
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1:01PM on 04/28/2012

AGREED!

Any Gentleman would find avoiding future reboots and origin retcons an excellent approach to cinematic superhero features
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Any Gentleman would find avoiding future reboots and origin retcons an excellent approach to cinematic superhero features
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8:11PM on 04/27/2012
I know reboots are unpopular, but let's not pretend here that they didn't give us Batman Begins, Star Trek, and X-Men: First Class. They do have their place, and sometimes they either right the ship or re-energize a flailing franchise for the better.
I know reboots are unpopular, but let's not pretend here that they didn't give us Batman Begins, Star Trek, and X-Men: First Class. They do have their place, and sometimes they either right the ship or re-energize a flailing franchise for the better.
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11:52PM on 04/29/2012
They need to make the origin movie as good as they can, and never reboot the damn thing again. I, for one, sure as hell don't want to see how those superheroes got their powers/motivations for the second or third time within couple years. I think Marvel is going to the right direction, let's hope other studios would follow.
They need to make the origin movie as good as they can, and never reboot the damn thing again. I, for one, sure as hell don't want to see how those superheroes got their powers/motivations for the second or third time within couple years. I think Marvel is going to the right direction, let's hope other studios would follow.
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1:37PM on 04/28/2012
I'm not for quick reboots, but I'm not sure the Bond method is best for comic book heroes. How do you treat the villians? You'll end up using the best villians in the first few films and than be stuck with the lesser villians, or you don't kill off the villians and have them reappear in each film and risk the audience getting tired of the same hero fight the same villian(s) each time around. The Marvel films may have no choice but to use the bond method, since all the avengers films are
I'm not for quick reboots, but I'm not sure the Bond method is best for comic book heroes. How do you treat the villians? You'll end up using the best villians in the first few films and than be stuck with the lesser villians, or you don't kill off the villians and have them reappear in each film and risk the audience getting tired of the same hero fight the same villian(s) each time around. The Marvel films may have no choice but to use the bond method, since all the avengers films are interconnected you can't reboot 1 without the others.
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9:32PM on 04/27/2012
This would work perfectly with Punisher, Deadpool, Wolverine, Cable and a handful of others. I don't think it would work with Spidey though as he only has two love interests.
This would work perfectly with Punisher, Deadpool, Wolverine, Cable and a handful of others. I don't think it would work with Spidey though as he only has two love interests.
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1:22AM on 04/28/2012
Since you obviously haven't read comics,Spidey has more than two love interests. Just the most popular stories have been about the two you've heard about.
Since you obviously haven't read comics,Spidey has more than two love interests. Just the most popular stories have been about the two you've heard about.
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3:07PM on 04/27/2012
Why not do superhero stories where there actually is someone stepping in for who we know. Like when Bane broke the Batman he had a stand-in take over for a while. I know there were other marvel charatcers where only the name is the same but different people donning it
Why not do superhero stories where there actually is someone stepping in for who we know. Like when Bane broke the Batman he had a stand-in take over for a while. I know there were other marvel charatcers where only the name is the same but different people donning it
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5:26PM on 04/27/2012

Interesting theory, but . . .

. . . calling it the "Bond method" at the moment doesn't really work. Because we just rebooted Bond, did we not? (And with spectacular results?)
. . . calling it the "Bond method" at the moment doesn't really work. Because we just rebooted Bond, did we not? (And with spectacular results?)
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7:24PM on 04/27/2012
Yeah but that was 30 yrs plus before 1 reboot
Yeah but that was 30 yrs plus before 1 reboot
3:21PM on 04/27/2012
The idea that not every superhero movie needs to be an origin story is brilliant. However with Iron Man, RDJ absolutely owns that role to its core. So when he decides he's done, I think they should think more along the lines of Batman Beyond rather than James Bond. Rather than have a new actor do what would most likely become a copy of RDJ's performance they should have Tony pass the torch to someone else, maybe even someone completely original to the film universe, and hopefully get Tony back
The idea that not every superhero movie needs to be an origin story is brilliant. However with Iron Man, RDJ absolutely owns that role to its core. So when he decides he's done, I think they should think more along the lines of Batman Beyond rather than James Bond. Rather than have a new actor do what would most likely become a copy of RDJ's performance they should have Tony pass the torch to someone else, maybe even someone completely original to the film universe, and hopefully get Tony back for some mentoring scenes.
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9:20PM on 04/27/2012
The "Bond Method" doesn't work here because the Bond books were written very differently than comic books. Each Bond book had a different love interest where as most superheroes just have one or two love interests for people to choose from. People would get bored from comic book movies if they were never rebooted because they would just get tired of all the Lois Lanes and all the Mary Janes. James Bond can go where ever he wants and does whatever he wants but Superman just stays in Metropolis.
The "Bond Method" doesn't work here because the Bond books were written very differently than comic books. Each Bond book had a different love interest where as most superheroes just have one or two love interests for people to choose from. People would get bored from comic book movies if they were never rebooted because they would just get tired of all the Lois Lanes and all the Mary Janes. James Bond can go where ever he wants and does whatever he wants but Superman just stays in Metropolis.
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